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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Crunkle]

For those wanting to understand just how significant Corbyn's new party is:

New Statesman (L / A)

Around about 70% of all youth Labour members have left the party. Wider polling (country-wide, not just Labour) says that around 42% of 18 - 24 year olds would choose Corbyn over Starmer. Not including 16 and 17 year olds who are famously politically enlightened.

 

[Made In Wales]

Ricky Jones is absolutely going to get let off, because why not?

Not so sure:

* Doing so would unleash a major backlash - he'll need to be punished but the punishment won't be that severe in comparison to Lucy Connolly etc.

* He's not in Labour any more, therefore they have no moral/legal obligation to help or protect him... unless he has dirt on officials, but in any case he can be silenced/threatened.

* He has broken the law and his sentence warrants at least a year of custody (6 months inside if a 50/50 charge, if not 8 months inside if 66% 2/3 of the time has to be served).

The CPS will no doubt be told to make an example of him in order to make Starmer and the Attorney General look as if they know what they are doing (and they certainly don't).

If Jones does get a slap on the wrist, he won't last too long - he's probably going to be safer inside.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

They might give him a sentence to act like there's no two tier policing. "See we punish the other side too!"

 

[pot of sneed]

* Doing so would unleash a major backlash - he'll need to be punished but the punishment won't be that severe in comparison to Lucy Connolly etc.

Optimistic, sorry. If thousands upon thousands of native children can be subject to industrial mass rape at the hands of immigrant invaders, nothing is going to happen to this guy. He'll get off, Lucy Connolly will be lucky to get out of prison alive and the two-tier system will further advance as British natives get more ferociously penalized while rapey invaders get coddled some more.

 

[Made In Wales]

Optimistic, sorry. If thousands upon thousands of native children can be subject to industrial mass rape at the hands of immigrant invaders, nothing is going to happen to this guy. He'll get off, Lucy Connolly will be lucky to get out of prison alive and the two-tier system will further advance as British natives get more ferociously penalized while rapey invaders get coddled some more.

I think Lucy is now (thankfully) out of Prison and has been made a guest of the House of Commons.

@Kofi Drinka Makes a good point - Starmer needs a win (even a small one) and if the Judge is too lenient then this risks being one of the sparks of the catalyst which will get people into riot mode.

He can't risk it - even if Jones gets a 6 month sentence or 12 months suspended, Starmer will hope that will be enough.

Jones is no longer in Labour, he's dead meat to them and I doubt they'll care what happens to him.

A bit like Mike Amesbury after he went too far, they ain't going to give a shit over people who bring the party into disrepute.

 

[Otterly]

I think Lucy is now (thankfully) out of Prison and has been made a guest of the House of Commons.

I would have worn a guy Fawkes T shirt to that particular appointment

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I would have worn a guy Fawkes T shirt to that particular appointment

I would have hoped you wore a strap of spare magazines to go with your semi automatic.

I've been spending too much time with Americans haven't I? They keep invading the thread and trying to make us follow their education system.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

I think Lucy is now (thankfully) out of Prison and has been made a guest of the House of Commons.

I don't think she's out yet. She's supposed to be released at some point in August, but it hasn't been said that she's out yet. And Lowe, I think, wants to make her his guest at Commons when she is out.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I don't think she's out yet. She's supposed to be released at some point in August, but it hasn't been said that she's out yet. And Lowe, I think, wants to make her his guest at Commons when she is out.

"We know this woman was put in prison for political reasons and has done nothing wrong. We're going to free her from a place she is repeatedly physically assaulted and psychologically tortured with isolation... in a couple of months when hopefully one of those assaults will have been lethal"

 

[>IMPLYING]

My cousin is going to a protest that's meant to be happening in London or Liverpool this Thursday or Saturday (or the next week over).
I'll vaguepost about whether I'll go with or not.
Anyway, a handy resource to find out when and where these protests are happening is none other than the stand up to racism website.

On the bottom left of the website you constantly get dono notifications. They've got a shop, affiliate links, networks, resources (these contain the placards and signs they'll be using), transport bookings — the works. They also have a contact page and appear to have pretty decent coverage of the UK.

They really have every "far-right" protest listed on the event page.

They can also accept foreign donations which seems a bit unfair but alright...


They also got this statement page where you can sign some shit.
Notable signatories.

Signatories include:

• Weyman Bennett and Sabby Dhalu, Stand Up To Racism co-convenors
• Lord Peter Hain and Paul Holborow, Anti Nazi League founders
• Kate Nash, singer songwriter
• Jerry Dammers, The Specials founder
• Paloma Faith, singer-songwriter
• Bimini Bon Boulash, drag artist
• Billy Bragg, singer-songwriter and activist
• Roots Manuva, rapper
• Shon Faye, author
• Eliza Rose, DJ and artist
• Maverick Sabre, singer songwriter
• Dr Cheddar Gorgeous, drag performer and artist
• Funk Butcher, DJ and producer
• Self Esteem, musician and songwriter
• Gurinder Chadha, filmmaker
• Azeem Rafiq, author and ex-cricketer
• Gideon, artist, DJ and Bloc 9 Glastonbury curator
• Taj Ali, Co-editor Tribune Magazine
• Amar Chadha-Patel, actor
• Ghostpoet, singer-songwriter
• Bobbie Vylan, musician
• Eliza Carthy MBE, folksinger
• Michael Rosen, author and poet
• Frank Turner, singer-songwriter and musician
• Catrin Stewart, actor
• Narinder Kaur, TV personality & social commentator
• Diane Abbott MP
• Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP
• Ian Byrne MP
• Dawn Butler MP
• Kim Johnson MP
• John McDonnell MP
• Apsana Begum MP
• Zarah Sultana MP
• Jon Trickett MP
• Richard Burgon MP
• Ian Lavery MP
• Clive Lewis MP
• Andy McDonald MP
• Mary Kelly Foy MP
• Humza Yousaf MSP
• Paul Sweeney MSP
• Jeremy Corbyn MP
• Shockat Adam MP
• Iqbal Mohamed MP
• Ayoub Khan MP
• Adnan Hussain MP
• Pauline Bryan, House of Lords
• Prem Sikka, House of Lords
• Christine Blower, House of Lords
• Sharon Graham, Unite General Secretary
• Daniel Kebede, NEU General Secretary
• Mick Lynch, RMT General Secretary
• Mick Whelan, ASLEF General Secretary
• Fran Heathcote, PCS General Secretary
• Matt Wrack, FBU General Secretary
• Sarah Woolley, BFAWU General Secretary
• Patrick Roach, NASUWT General Secretary
• Maryam Eslamdoust, TSSA General Secretary
• Steve North, Unison President
• Steve North, Unison President
• Alex Gordon, RMT President
• Aamer Anwar, Human Rights Lawyer
• Mohammed Kozbar, Muslim Council of Britain Deputy Secretary General
• David Rosenberg, Jewish Socialist Group
• Lindsey German, Stop the War Coalition convenor
• Kate Hudson, CND
• Ben Chacko, editor Morning Star
• Dr Louise Raw
• Taj Ali, Tribune Co-Editor
• Matt Willgress, Labour Outlook Editor
• Balwinder Rana, Sikhs Against the EDL
• Samira Ali and Lewis Nielsen, national organisers Stand Up to Racism
• Jamshid Ahmadi, Executive Committee, Liberation (formerly the Movement for Colonial Freedom, est. 1954)
• Harsev Bains, Indian Workers Association GB
• Denis Fernando, Rainbow Coalition Against Racism
• Myriam Kane and Fiona Sim, Black Liberation Alliance

Similar to Care4Calais (sperged about them earlier in the thread) they're this group capable of organising against every organic anti-immigrant movement in the UK and has the potential help of foreign donations to help put up some sort of limp opposition against the natives and at worst outright facilitate the invasion in effect. It's amazing what money can do for your power projection (not that I'm surprised by this).

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Anyway, a handy resource to find out when and where these protests are happening is none other than the stand up to racism website.

I've seen nuclear reactors glow less than this. It screams honey pot with fake donation links.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I've seen nuclear reactors glow less than this. It screams honey pot with fake donation links.

Could be. But these guys were protesting against the remigration march I posted about a little while ago.
It's not like they or the government even hide they're in bed with each other.


I'm not sure if I'm just subtarded or not but I'm confused by "Total gross income" and "Total income" doesn't factor in government grants. Consistently a quarter of their income has come from government grants and contracts earned them more income than donations in 2024.

Edit: ^ It's possible "Grants" = "Charitable activities".

If you wonder what they sell:

20 quid for a load of printed-off shite.
600k revenue from "Charitable activities" means that 30k people at minimum bought this shit in 2024.
Edit (cont): Since the grants account for half the charitable activities revenue, it's possible you can halve the number of buyers.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

I think that the deliberate misleading of the Chagos deal is going to be the smoking gun. The Blair Institute must be cackling as they want their puppet, Angela in.

 

[Eddie Riggs]

I think that the deliberate misleading of the Chagos deal is going to be the smoking gun. The Blair Institute must be cackling as they want their puppet, Angela in.

I just want to say I'm glad you are aware enough of your own uselessness to make a KF account with your full name, Mr. Prime Minister

 

[Snekposter]

"Kier Starmer" sounds like a sci-fi villain name.

Just putting that out there.

Or a Bond villain. Man, I wish he was as competent as a Bond villain. He'd be entertaining that way instead of just sad.

I swear, Wales is the part of the UK that's always had the largest winning streak.

Let's be honest, nobody can really understand the Scots accent when it gets laid on thick. Easy to mistake those non-words for something a durka durka might say.

 

[No-Eyed Square Guy]

Or a Bond villain. Man, I wish he was as competent as a Bond villain. He'd be entertaining that way instead of just sad.

In imaginationland, South Park has a very funny character called Keister Rimmer right now.

 

[prayforpills]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kDwNzchFNc

is letby innocent?

 

[BongoMongo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kDwNzchFNc

is letby innocent?

Innocence or not aside, my own experience of working in the NHS taught me (to the extent I got out, not just of the NHS,but my field of original study altogether. I simply could not stand what I saw going on) that within the NHS there is such a rampant, entrenched mentality of bullying and being willing to do literally anything to cover up wrong - doing that, I would not be shocked if she was a patsy for something extremely sinister.

 

[Russian Bot #5361]

I simply could not stand what I saw going on) that within the NHS there is such a rampant, entrenched mentality of bullying and being willing to do literally anything to cover up wrong - doing that, I would not be shocked if she was a patsy for something extremely sinister.

This problem is endemic within British public institutions, it seems to be a core part of their operations. This is observable within the prison system, police, NHS, civil service, and probably any of the other trillion of government departments. When you're basically guaranteed a job for life with no real productivity incentive things always tend to get skewed towards internal politics. This often leads to promoting the incompetent, higher-ups creating cults of personality, and a culture of blame shifting or black-holing problems. No one wants to be held responsible for things that happen and as a result things gets covered up if it can be without scandal. Further, employees — civil servants subject to the Civil Service Code — cannot go to the media or other third parties, meaning their only recourse is litigation, which is effectively career suicide and costly. In other words, many such cases.

 

[BongoMongo]

This problem is endemic within British public institutions, it seems to be a core part of their operations. This is observable within the prison system, police, NHS, civil service, and probably any of the other trillion of government departments. When you're basically guaranteed a job for life with no real productivity incentive things always tend to get skewed towards internal politics. This often leads to promoting the incompetent, higher-ups creating cults of personality, and a culture of blame shifting or black-holing problems. No one wants to be held responsible for things that happen and as a result things gets covered up if it can be without scandal. Further, employees — civil servants subject to the Civil Service Code — cannot go to the media or other third parties, meaning their only recourse is litigation, which is effectively career suicide and costly. In other words, many such cases.

Absolutely agree. People conflate job security and a job,no matter how hard or often you fuck up.

Job security and feeling like you're in a stable job is great (although I know some people who thrive on short term contracts, to each their own I guess) but complete freedom from repercussions has got us to where we are with our public bodies.

Edited to say: it's especially galling that these people are paid by us, the tax payers. To fuck up,cover up, lie,and deflect blame elsewhere. If I had a tenner for every time I'd seen or read about something atrocious cock up then read the words "lessons have been learned" then I could retire already. If lessons have been learned why do the same mistakes keep on and on being made?