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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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femboy fart huffer said:
Doesn't matter. The police will show up maybe 10% of the time if you call them to say there's a burglary at most. Unless you are in the house and in direct danger they normally don't give a shit. Giving the police some doorbell camera footage of some guy in a balaclava and expecting to do anything with it is so far beyond just wishful thinking it's just straight up delusional. At best they're good for insurance reasons but that's about it.
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Ring footage is used for neighbourhood watch now. Locals share footage online in their chat groups to keep an eye on things.
femboy fart huffer said:
The most retarded part is that you are meant to fucking think about any of that in that situation and react within those guidelines. If I hear someone break into my house and I grab a baseball bat and walk in on them only to find them unarmed I am expected to drop the baseball bat and fight them with my fists. Even though the criminal would just pick up the baseball bat and now I am disadvantaged. And even then if you punch someone and knock them out then that's fine, if they end up falling backwards and cracking their head open on the floor now you're being charged with manslaughter at the minimum.
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You also can't go and get a weapon. It has to be something on hand. So if you go into the kitchen to get a knife when you hear a break in you're violating the law.

Can confirm if you tell the police you're going to defend yourself if someone breaking in attacks you they will turn up fast then put you on a course for your actions. Even if you never have to defend yourself.
 
teriyakiburns said:
Not strictly true. Legally, you have the right to defend yourself in your home with reasonable force if you feel threatened. There's no "duty to retreat" in law, nor is there any duty to wait until you're physically attacked before you defend yourself. The problem is that the police don't care about your legal rights and will gladly torture you in interviews until they can coerce you into confessing a crime, or failing that, will creatively interpret evidence such that you can be prosecuted for something you didn't actually do. The courts always side with the police and your own defence lawyer will defer to them, regardless of the legality of your acts. They'll all meet up for drinks at Pommeroys after the trial is concluded.

What this demonstrates is that legality matters little, when the entire system is corrupt and stacked against you. You could theoretically have the absolute right to shoot any trespasser who so much as sneezed at your door, but if the police and the courts decide to ignore those rights, you're still going to prison.
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>if you feel threatened.
If you're a large man and a feral pack of scrotes break into your house with weapons the police will still argue you wouldnt FEEL threatened because you're a man and they're just poor innocent little children playing around. It's a nonsense standard that effectively means "If you're the right kind of woman or minority" and it was always intended that way. It's not just the police, the law itself was always designed to be used against the common man
 
Made In Wales said:
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Noob.

Get some chickenwire (and a tarp if they are leaking), wrap them in that, and dump them off beachy head/tintagel/the pembrokshire coast (or wherever is convenient).

Fish and crabs will do the hard work, and seawater will denature the DNA.

Burning a whole carpet will just get the council out.

Wash the tarp in bleach. (1:10 domestos:water should do it)
 
I love it when True Crime bleeds over.
ChefKiss said:
>if you feel threatened.
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They can and will fuck you over if they can, because as thoughtless cogs in the machine of suppression that's what their purpose is.
If it does happen though, it's entirely your own fault, two magical words; Reasonable Escalation. Pairs well with five others; In Fear Of My Life.
Combined with not being retarded enough to be on camera, their mystical power will take you far beyond the common plod's capacity to be bothered.
 
After all that discussion about new builds, yesterday. The Daily Mail runs a story on them today.


Fairly milquetoast but include the tidbit that some of them now have stairs made out of MDF. MD-fucking-F stairs! Also, lots of comments saying how the gardens will look nice once some trees and flowers are planted, ignoring that it's just turf over a load of rubbish. Lucky if anything grows bar thistles.
 
Mound Dweller said:
I love it when True Crime bleeds over.

They can and will fuck you over if they can, because as thoughtless cogs in the machine of suppression that's what their purpose is.
If it does happen though, it's entirely your own fault, two magical words; Reasonable Escalation. Pairs well with five others; In Fear Of My Life.
Combined with not being retarded enough to be on camera, their mystical power will take you far beyond the common plod's capacity to be bothered.
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There was a news story not long ago about a bloke they tried to do for breaking a pakis arms and legs. He kept hurting him and the camel fucker kept getting back up and trying to fight. So eventually the bloke just broke him into pieces to stop him coming back.
 
Overly Serious said:
Fairly milquetoast but include the tidbit that some of them now have stairs made out of MDF. MD-fucking-F stairs!
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That's been the norm for a while already. Cheaper than ply, so never mind that even a hint of flame will send the whole staircase up like a roman candle. At least the regs still require a decent outer skin and cavity to prevent water ingress, so no chance yet of adopting the "kingspan and fake brick cladding" technique I've seen over in the states. Unless they've changed that recently...
 
Vesperus said:
Noob.

Get some chickenwire (and a tarp if they are leaking), wrap them in that, and dump them off beachy head/tintagel/the pembrokshire coast (or wherever is convenient).

Fish and crabs will do the hard work, and seawater will denature the DNA.

Burning a whole carpet will just get the council out.

Wash the tarp in bleach. (1:10 domestos:water should do it)
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What the man said :)

@SirCliveSinclairdabbing Then my defence would be 'yes they were in my house, I told them to leave and they did.' I'd shut the phone off and dispose of it.

As long as you don't raise suspicion, the Police won't ask too many questions and besides people go missing - it's not unheard of.


Some afternoon news:

Loophole in Labour’s disposable vape ban exposed as 'raison d'être' of new rules branded 'meaningless':



Prince Harry in talks to launch 'new charity' among 'options' following bitter split from Sentebale:




A-level students with grades as low as three E's being accepted to British universities to meet 'diversity quotas':




Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's attempt to ‘build bridges’ backfires as efforts come ‘far too late’:




Labour politicians splurge £4m in taxpayers' cash on 'gender equal' tree planting scheme, more than 4,000 miles away - Welsh public money has also financed solar-powered vessels and charging infrastructure for the indigenous Wampis communities in Peru's northern Amazon region:


 
Mister Fister said:
Do you guys have a right to remain silent?
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Yes, but the courts have historically interpreted it in the least charitable way possible. Think of the way American media and some American courts constantly try to characterise use of the 5th amendment as an admission of criminality, then imagine they won the argument.
 
Tragon Dirtle said:
I really want it to be this because I think William would be an improvement, but he is still pro-Islam, he invited palestinian aid workers to Kensington Palace:


back in June
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To be fair, his Grandmother had to sit next to Nigger Mugabe at a funeral once.

She didn't want to, but she obeyed protocol and didn't kick off about it.

That's one thing about the Royals; often they don't want to do things and meet certain people, but they have no choice. King Charles III didn't want to marry Diana, but 'had to'.

If King William V is a let down, then the Royal Family need to be removed (and that itself will be a tricky task - any PM who introduces or backs a Bill to remove them will be on dicey ground).

Plus, the alternative could well be President Boris 'Spaffer' Johnson...
 
teriyakiburns said:
Yes, but the courts have historically interpreted it in the least charitable way possible. Think of the way American media and some American courts constantly try to characterise use of the 5th amendment as an admission of criminality, then imagine they won the argument.
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Worth also noting for the Burgers since it's different, that the "right of silence" does not include refusing to hand over passwords, encryption keys, whatever. You can and will be punished for not telling them how to access any device or data. IIRC, in the USA the right to silence was interpreted to mean you could stay silent on that.

I'm fairly sure that there was something else that interfered with right to remain silent recently as well, but can't recall what it was right now.
 
Made In Wales said:
A-level students with grades as low as three E's being accepted to British universities to meet 'diversity quotas':
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Can't look up articles about it now but I hear from people working at unis that all of them bar Oxford and Cambridge are doing clearing this year. Turnout is lower than anticipated which might well be good news.
 
Overly Serious said:
Worth also noting for the Burgers since it's different, that the "right of silence" does not include refusing to hand over passwords, encryption keys, whatever. You can and will be punished for not telling them how to access any device or data. IIRC, in the USA the right to silence was interpreted to mean you could stay silent on that.

I'm fairly sure that there was something else that interfered with right to remain silent recently as well, but can't recall what it was right now.
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They can hold you until you give up your passwords. Even if your devices aren't related to the crime they can demand you let them in to see the saucy pictures your wife sent you or you will never leave a cell again.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
They can hold you until you give up your passwords. Even if your devices aren't related to the crime they can demand you let them in to see the saucy pictures your wife sent you or you will never leave a cell again.
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And God alone knows the passwords to some of the old hard drives and files I have lying around. If the UK govt. wants to throw you in a hole, they will.
 
When you think about it, the old saying "The empire on which the sun never sets" is kinda like the imperial version of "Nothing Ever Happens" if taken with the interpretation of things never changing and not the literal sense.
Of course, now that the sun DOES set on the British Empire, things are happening.
(That treasonous fuck Starmer gave away the Chagos simply to destroy that statement, I bet.)
 
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Made In Wales said:
Note for Britbong Cops, I've killed zero people
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How many immigrants though?
Kofi Drinka said:
Ring footage is used for neighbourhood watch now. Locals share footage online in their chat groups to keep an eye on things.
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The only thing my neighbourhood watches is fucking antiques roadshow or love island. I mean what does knowing there are criminals near me help? I already know that. Knowing what they look like doesn't matter because I have no way to deal with them. The only time it would matter is if they broke into my house and in that case I'll treat them in the exact same way as someone I didn't know.

But yea not allowed to go out of your way to grab anything. But I eat a lot of apples in my room so I just leave my dedicated apple coring knife in my room. I also am just into medieval stuff and just enjoy how longswords look mounted on the wall of collection shit that just so happens to be between the bed and the bedroom door.
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Also, lots of comments saying how the gardens will look nice once some trees and flowers are planted, ignoring that it's just turf over a load of rubbish. Lucky if anything grows bar thistles.
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imo those lawns are like buying a house unfurnished. The idea should be to give the most bare neutral space and then let the person who owns the house add something of actual character and value. If you leave a lawn like that then you've failed to understand the purpose of a garden. But then you buy a house like this where you don't have a choice. There's not even any reason buying a spade because it would be longer than the soil is deep. If they even bother with actual grass instead of just astroturf. Every time you look outside you will see a lifeless blank canvas that you will never be able to put any sort of character into. It's like buying an unfurnished house but the door is too thin so the only thing you can ever bring inside is flatpack ikea shit.
Mister Fister said:
Do you guys have a right to remain silent?
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You have a right to remain silent in the sense that the police cannot force you to speak. Bit like you have a right to not freeze to death because of their negligence but that's as far as the protections go. You do not have the right for your silence to be discounted. The police also have the right to fucking interpret your silence in whatever way they want. You might not say something but that just lets the police interpret what your silence 'says'. Lets say for instance that you killed an intruder. If you stonewall and respond to everything with no comment then they can portray that however they want. A common one is that they will show crime scene photos. If you don't show emotion or have an opinion on a dead body, or they'll talk about his family and whatever, things that they expect you to react to, and if you don't show any emotion to that then they will put forward the idea that you don't have any emotions because you correctly don't see them as people and that's why you murdered them and shit like that. In america if you say nothing then they will just discount it. In England if you say nothing they will try to portray you as an unfeeling psychopath that clearly must have enjoyed killing and so should be locked away for 50 years.

Basically our legal system is closer to the spanish inquisition or Salem than anything resembling a just system. That's how it's been forever. That's not a recent or an immigration thing, that's just our country is fucking retarded and corrupt.
 
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