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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Crunkle]

who was working on them said the build quality was dreadful

I can definitely agree with this. I've got a friend who bought a 2022 build and you can hear somebody pissing in the upstairs toilet on the opposite side of the house. The sound travels through a story and to the other side of the house.

He also had a massive issue with the electricity line supplied to the place and it had to be dug up and redone twice. Entire estate had the fiber cabling redug up as it bottlenecked when more people moved into it.

 

[Clem Fandango]

I can definitely agree with this. I've got a friend who bought a 2022 build and you can hear somebody pissing in the upstairs toilet on the opposite side of the house. The sound travels through a story and to the other side of the house.

He also had a massive issue with the electricity line supplied to the place and it had to be dug up and redone twice. Entire estate had the fiber cabling redug up as it bottlenecked when more people moved into it.

I call those new build estates you see everywhere "toy towns". The houses look horrible, they don't even seem like real houses. Made out of papier mache and balsa wood.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

All true, it's mostly due to the builders needing to reduce costs to be able to afford themselves. They get given unrealistic time frames that do not match the workforce output or the budget. They have to cut staff most of the time to afford supplies, and now a lot of the firms are done with it. I honestly don't blame them because of the abuse they put their body through at a young age. My uncle, in his early 50s, looks in his 70s and needs a double knee replacement.

When you see the build quality in the South of the US, it's unreal because a lot of builds have unique aesthetics. Some look very 70s inspired or modern, others look plantation or ranch. There is a diverse range of homes for all around the same price. When we went house hunting, the quality was overall good, and the developers were very transparent with questions regarding materials used.

 

[Overly Serious]

I can definitely agree with this. I've got a friend who bought a 2022 build and you can hear somebody pissing in the upstairs toilet on the opposite side of the house. The sound travels through a story and to the other side of the house.

He also had a massive issue with the electricity line supplied to the place and it had to be dug up and redone twice. Entire estate had the fiber cabling redug up as it bottlenecked when more people moved into it.

Based on most of the builders, sparkies, etc. that I've known, the problem isn't them. Most I've known have taken a lot of pride in their work. I bet every deadline and corner has been cut by the companies that get these jobs. Probably they get paid twice - first to do it and then to fix it. I'd love to see the council books on some of these projects.

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When you see the build quality in the South of the US, it's unreal because a lot of builds have unique aesthetics. Some look very 70s inspired or modern, others look plantation or ranch. There is a diverse range of homes for all around the same price. When we went house hunting, the quality was overall good, and the developers were very transparent with questions regarding materials used.

That's very area and age dependent, though. I've had friends buying in America and they have to have a meth survey done to detect if there's meth in the walls and floor. Not joking and it was a standard practice in the area they were buying. Admittedly that was in the North.

They also tend to build out of wood in the USA mostly, which is part of the reason (not all) why air conditioning is so critical. Didn't a big area of Denver basically go up in smoke some years ago? The wooden houses just all go up in smoke and then get rebuilt.

 

[Mound Dweller]

All the regulations and standards and requirements and all that have only ended up having the opposite effect as intended, they're not baseline expectations; they're bare legal minimums, which of course because of the bandit-capitalism that dominates every sector the minimum is the maximum and just another corner to be cut, leaving you lucky to even get what the law says is humane in the first place.
You see the same efficiency model perverted outcomes in everything from military procurement to gov IT contracts, all these rules simply mean nothing because they're just rules for having rules sake at this point.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Based on most of the builders, sparkies, etc. that I've known, the problem isn't them. Most I've known have taken a lot of pride in their work. I bet every deadline and corner has been cut by the companies that get these jobs. Probably they get paid twice - first to do it and then to fix it. I'd love to see the council books on some of these projects.

It's variable. There are a lot who take pride, but there's always the useless twats who can't keep a wall plumb, but who can throw one up in half the time because of that. New builds are full of the latter; fast, sloppy work means they're on site for a shorter period, which means the construction company pays less for them even if their rates are high. Site foremen get a bonus for meeting the inspection and sign-off deadline. Doesn't matter if every unit fails; insurance will cover the remediation costs and they were all sold off plan anyway, so it's not like they're losing buyers. Sometimes the sub will strategically go under, taking outstanding debts with it; its replacement, coincidentally staffed by the same people, will hire back all the same contractors and carry on as if nothing happened.

All the regulations and standards and requirements and all that have only ended up having the opposite effect as intended, they're not baseline expectations; they're bare legal minimums, which of course because of the bandit-capitalism that dominates every sector the minimum is the maximum and just another corner to be cut, leaving you lucky to even get what the law says is humane in the first place.

Fun fact: the regs for ceiling heights were reduced in the... 70s, I want to say? Down to 7'8, or approximately 2.34 metres. Plaster boards for the interior stud are 8ft. Rather than build 8ft ceilings, houses were built to the absolute minimum and a 4 inch strip was cut off every single board. It was cheaper have workers carry out that laborious task than put in two extra courses of bricks on each storey, even though an 8ft ceiling is markedly more comfortable than a 7'8 ceiling. Then, of course, they started making the footprints for housing smaller, paring everything right down the minimum widths for corridors and doors. You can't get a wheelchair in a lot of recent new-builds, even though they're legally compliant with accessibility rules.

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'People are angry': Behind the wave of asylum hotel protests

BBC are giving almost balanced coverage to the protests. Almost. They give a bit of space for protestors to air their issues, but they go out of their way to obfuscate and minimise the damage being done by the migrants.

The graphs tell it all:



Labour are taking credit for all that drop, even though they're basically reversing the trend with their policies.

 

[Made In Wales]

Things are certainly changing as, this morning, I received an alert for an old politics forum which I forgot I signed up to many years ago.

Somebody from the SNP whom I used to 'spar' with online wanted to know if I'd be interested in a protest march against the Government in early September marching united 'all under one banner'.

The feeling when you've gone from a total fascist Nazi to potential ally is quite something.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

 

[Crunkle]

In other news, the reason why migrants seem to want to rape our children might have been found.

It turns out that schoolchildren as young as five are being coerced/encouraged to send heart-shaped Valentine's Day cards to the rapefugees themselves. You know, the same people who have a prophet who married a five/six year old.

Archive (viewer discretion advised, absolutely horrific reading)

You don't hate teachers enough.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Did you lads see the daily mail lying out their teeth a few days ago? Migrants sticking the V sign up in a photo and they called it a peace sign. Lying cunts

 

[Crunkle]

Did you lads see the daily mail lying out their teeth a few days ago? Migrants sticking the V sign up in a photo and they called it a peace sign. Lying cunts

Daily Mail still has "her penis" headlines. The comment section on the Daily Mail website is pretty great, though.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Did you lads see the daily mail lying out their teeth a few days ago? Migrants sticking the V sign up in a photo and they called it a peace sign. Lying cunts

The Heil simping for a foreign totalitarian death cult? Well, I never!

But seriously, that's disgusting. TJD can't come soon enough.

 

[BongoMongo]

Had the pleasure of looking into this a few years back when I had the locks changed after moving in.

I forget the name but there's a 3 and a 5 for a lock. I'd seen the Ultion ones. Ideally, I just want a door which can't be forced open by dark hands within ten seconds.

Ultion is the way to go then. Also if you buy from the manufacturer Brisant, assuming you know your door split,they'll try and flog you a bottle of locklube. Don't. It's messy. Get like a carpenters pencil or a 2B and periodically run it along your key and down the grooves then stick it in the lock and lock and unlock a few times. The lock lube is just powdered graphite. Total SOB to use.

Run like hell from putting WD40 or silicone anything in your locks. Graphite or bust.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Ideally, I just want a door which can't be forced open by dark hands within ten seconds

Why force a door lock when you can force a window lock much more easily ? Nobody does a home invasion through the front door anymore.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Why force a door lock when you can force a window lock much more easily ? Nobody does a home invasion through the front door anymore.

This is why, when I can afford it, I'm replacing all the PVC windows in my house with aluminium frames. They look nicer and they're far, far stronger than the plastic. Modern frames don't even have the condensation problems of the old ones. The glass is the weak point then, but any half-way decent double glazed unit is proof against most casual smashing attempts.

 

[Crunkle]

Why force a door lock when you can force a window lock much more easily ? Nobody does a home invasion through the front door anymore.

Depends on the type of window and what beading it has. All new windows have hidden beading so it's much noisier to fuck with a window than it is to break a simple front door lock and use bolt cutters to cut the chain.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

You don't need to worry about the door lock, only the fucker who is behind the door.

and Tony Martin's ghost.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

I just want a door which can't be forced open by dark hands within ten seconds.

Bolt your door and get a shrouded bolt. Get a proper door not the dogshit plastic or cardboard ones. Don't buy windows large enough for a person to fit through. Every single lock in the world can be bypassed or exploited. The only way you can ever stop someone breaking into your house is by using something that can only be accessed from the inside. The only way to do that is a bolt. Catches can be bypassed with a boltcutter or just an elastic band. You will never stop someone breaking into your house, the idea is to prevent them doing so easily and force them to make as much noise as possible.

Run like hell from putting WD40 or silicone anything in your locks. Graphite or bust.

Don't lubricate any lock at all. Your locks should be gunky and awkward. If it takes you an extra 5 seconds to use it will take an intruder an extra 5 minutes.

No PL, but a couple of new estates that have been going up in my area over the past several years, a builder I was chatting too who was working on them said the build quality was dreadful. It surprised me because I tend to think with so many new regulations and the onward plod of tech, new builds would mostly be great in most regards (except perhaps size). But he said he didn't think they'd last. Pretty shocking.

New builds are shit. They're all falling apart before they're even finished. Shits never straight and everything's made of the cheapest materials possible. It's just English tofu dregs. They shit these things out as cheaply as possible because most of them are contracted from the council. They need to both hit the council's deadlines but they get given no funding at all so they have to do everything cheaply so that the contractor company can make profit. Shit everything out both as quick and as cheaply as possible. As long as it roughly is a square shape and the floorboards are about thick enough to hold the weight of two people then they don't care. I know it's easy enough to say but like do not fucking buy new builds unless you absolutely have to. The best houses are 50+ years old, those will actually last even though you might have to deal with getting new utilities put in especially with the electrics.

Labour are taking credit for all that drop, even though they're basically reversing the trend with their policies.

Oh yea labour lowered the number of people in migrant hotels I believe that 100%. They definitely did not give them full citizenship and a house or anything like that. They didn't fix the problem they just stuck a new name on it and said they lowered the numbers of the first problem.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

The feeling when you've gone from a total fascist Nazi to potential ally is quite something.

That protest glows like the sun itself, they don't want you to rally in support, they want you to behave like a nigger (like they assume you are) and get picked up by the police so they can get home safely.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Why force a door lock when you can force a window lock much more easily ? Nobody does a home invasion through the front door anymore.

If someone wants in your house they will get in. No one is installing bullet proof glass in their home.

How many hotels have been filled with immigrants and resulted in a rape within a week? I've read about 3 in the last week. They aren't even securing them in or restricting them any more. It's literally giving them a hotel room and a debit card. The hotel staff have no control and they only put up a fence to stop protestors from getting inside. I've been reading about a woman raped within 2 days of an IBIS hotel being filled with immigrants. A rural hotel where the locals are now talking about the local green spaces and playgrounds being no go zones. I've heard a small child was raped by them. Local council and MP are furious but have no way to prevent these air drops. Hotel is booked by the central government and there's nothing locals can do to prevent it.