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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Made In Wales said:
To make it clear, yeah I get that a lot of people don't like what I'm saying and I am more than aware that a slippery slope is no good. My point is that if you want to live in a secure but fair society then we either have to become more authoritarian in terms of the rule of law or technology gets more draconian. Sadly, those are the two choices, and I honestly wish it didn't have to be.
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It's rarely the case that there are only two choices and it's usually pushed that there are by someone with a vested interest in one of them coming about. Case in point, protecting children from porn sites. What you do is you set up a service that you can verify your age to. That service is pretty simple to do and mandate regular public audits of the service. There can be multiple services to allow choice if you want to. A site that you want to age restrict relays visitors to the service where they authenticate and receive a token verifying they're of age which they're then bounced back to the original service with. The token contains no identifying information - it's just a confirmation and an expiration time. This is real technology used all over the place today. It's the principle behind Single-Sign On and uses industry standard protocols like SAML.

Someone is reaching for their keyboard to say something like "but you can trust them to not track things" or some such but there's no technical need why the information must be kept and that's why you do public audits. It's entirely possible. The only thing you must store is that someone has registered on the service and the list of sites approved to use the service. You don't actually need to store who has used the service and for which sites.

This is doable now. And for peanuts in government terms. I could do this. Porn sites could implement support for it very easily and would have incentive to do so because it wouldn't be identifying like other techniques and they'd lose business if they didn't.

No, it's not perfect before anybody leaps in to try and say that because some under 18's will get through it's completely worthless. But it would be very effective, very cheap, and uses off-the-shelf technologies. So why does the government push ID solutions and try to make you think that and complete lack of control are "the two choices"? Because they want one of them.

Saying "if you don't want X, you'll get Y which is worse", is how the government has been managing the people since the first elections. It's pretty much the basis of the Two Party system in the USA and the Sometimes More than Two Party system in Bongland.

Smyrna said:
Plaid Cymru; 13%
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What I learned during Brexit is that Plaid Cymru are perfectly happy for Wales to be ruled by any foreign nation in the world, just so long as it's not the English.
 
Gregis said:
Should have bet my life savings it would be the Scots who were most ready to kick off, free fookin money. That London result is a little surprising though...
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Depends which Londoners - the North London Corbynites would, whereas those towards Surrey or Kent who are more Lib Dem/Pacifistic wouldn't be as ready to fight.

@Smyrna Well said, that's the kicker people don't get with Plaid. Gwlad are more likely to want a proper independent Wales i.e. out of both the Unions of the United Kingdom and the EU.

Some good news about Reform UK - winning in Carmarthenshire (Drippy Drakeford's home patch and the seat which is currently split between Reform UK and Plaid Cymru for the next GE):



In addition, Reform UK also won in Cannock Chase and Durham:




The afternoon GB News:


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UK toddler cured from 'untreatable' brain condition after doctors led world-first 'fight against time':




Family of beloved 'community champion' who 'fought cancer with bravery and dignity' to cycle 750 miles in just 6 days:




Hero teenager meets with Princess Anne after saving mother's life twice in one year:




NHS fraudster spared jail despite stealing £80k from taxpayers to send to Nigerian 'online boyfriend':


 
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EddyRooney said:
Does anybody else have a list of companies they won't do business with ?
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Yeah. I have. It’s mildly inconvenient- ironically M and S is one due to their tranny love but I’m hopeful that’ll change as they realise troons are only ever a risk. I look forward to frequenting the food hall as soon as single sex changing is enforced again
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I'd personally take some moderate form of ID if the end result would be no more cyber-stalking, online death threats, stalking and rape (as a result of following a person online) and certainly if the scourge of child pornography ended.
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Made In Wales said:
Would I be prepared to prove who I am before accessing the internet, meaning that if I accessed such stuff (and no I would never do that, gross) the Police would know and arrest me thus making society safer? - YES, if I was going to use the internet safely and not for sick purposes.
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I wouldn’t. Proving who I am doesn’t do anything at all to tackle child sexual abuse or stalking or rape. Those are criminal acts, and they need to be dealt with by removing the perpetrators. ID does nothing to stop any of those crimes. Trustless ID services exist but they don’t stop it either. You protect children by parenting them right, and by ruthlessly hunting down those that abuse them and (preferably executing but we don’t do that) locking them up for life, smashing the distribution and perusing them to the ends of the earth.
The ONLY utility for ID in this sort of situation is to crack down on criticism. I e just read @Overly Serious post about rwo choices and yes, that’s the thing
Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
It's still yarkshire, i.e. shite
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Outside, now
 
Re: Digital ID. We can catch rapists and nonces and perverts now, without digital ID. We always could, it is literally a choice by the government to not properly police these things. Criminal actions in a white - and yes you dumb fucking niggers about to disagree, it is a racial issue! -society has always been committed by a small minority of deviant individuals. I am not going to let the government crawl up inside my arsehole with a microscope, because they're too shit, lazy, and incompetent to just arrest the obvious perverts in society. If anyone asks me to do this, they can politely fuck off and die.
 
That's the problem - those in authority COULD do something positive for the people but won't.

They can't even get decent builders in to build Government buildings:



This just never happened years ago - the quality of workers and workmanship has gone down the pan.

Edit: More on Morgan McSweeney and his ties to the migrant scandal:


 
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Made In Wales said:
That's the problem - those in authority COULD do something positive for the people but won't.
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Man idk how to tell you this but that's just how politics works. That's how everyone in power has acted from throughout history. Those in power will do anything they can to prevent losing it. The people we call politicians are just the 21st century feudal lords, they would have us all out in fields breaking our backs for them to eat a 10 course dinner every day if they could. These people will never do something for you, you don't get to be a politician if you're not a self centered social climber cunt. The only positive thing a politician could ever do for this country is kill themselves.
 
Smyrna said:
Corbyn* is attending this evening this evening's protest in Epping.

*Piers

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Might not be a smart move after the rape of an eight year old girl by a migrant.

@femboy fart huffer Agreed, and that's why a lot of people have now had enough and said 'no more'.

The Feudal Barons hate being told the N-word, but need the Police and Army to defend them.

There's more of us than them.

I agree with the last bit, and I can see a few more Jo Cox/Sir David Amess type incidents coming.
 
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At least you could reason directly with feudal barons. You might get them on a good day, we're you to petition them,and get them to extend some mercy your way.

Not so easy with MPs. Best you'll get is a shitty letter,fobbing you off, worst, thrown out your rented home.
 
BongoMongo said:
At least you could reason directly with feudal barons. You might get them on a good day, we're you to petition them,and get them to extend some mercy your way.
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No normally you just execute them. Or at least threaten to. One of the biggest scams of democracy is exactly that. The entire purpose of cycling through leaders is to try and placate people. Just vote in the next election and authoritarian fascist #31543 will be much better than the current #31542. No one gets angry at politics, they get angry at politicians, cycle away the politician and the anger goes with it too. On both sides, everyone hated Boris, instead of trying to resolve that they brought in lettuce woman who everyone hated until they brought in retard number three and everyone backed down despite basically just being another Boris. People get angry at individuals but they never stop to wonder about the rest of them. There's like 200 labour mps or whatever, what about the other 199, do they get off scott free for the ccp firewall? What about the tories who first passed the law? People think that it's kier or whoever causing the problems not understanding the entire system behind them is responsible. The entire system is fucking corrupt and worthless but the idea of just wait a few years and you can vote in your own corrupt traitor for some fucking reason gives people hope that maybe the 80th year of straight decline will be the last one somehow. It's just like everything else, devisive smoke and mirrors. It's right vs left, racist vs pro child rape, terf vs more pro child rape, it's always us vs them, me against people who disagree with my opinions. It's never me and the person I disagree with vs the treasonous scum ruining the country.

I think the main reason why shit is kicking off so hard is that these rapists have transcended that boundary like they did the channel. This isn't just the fault of labour or the tories, we had years of people pissed off at the tories for allowing it and then we had the summer of love. It's become clear that this is not a political issue, this isn't 'i don't like the tax rise', it has become a societal issue. It is no longer about getting the people in charge to fix it because they all have shown that they will not do anything. It has also started to become less of a racist vs pro rapist argument and more of a people vs politicians. Every part of this country is united against them, aside from number 10. The problem has persisted through different pms from different parties so clearly voting won't do anything. It helps that these people are actively giving the average man reasons to hate them, it's a lot easier to channel anger into a man who fucking raped a child in broad daylight than it is to a vague nebulous political system designed to have no actual face. Also a big problem is the arrests. The people that were arrested for filming shit and other completely unjust reasons really fucked with people up here. Not only have we been ignored for decades, nothing we say ever gets considered and hardly ever even heard, but now simply saying that we'd like it if you gave a shit about us is illegal. That really drove home how fucking despised we are up here.
 
As our resident homosexual androgynous male gas inhaler says; it is a systemtic issue. Democracy is power watered down, maybe in the past it wasn't, but it is now. It is a series of gates away from power; with most of them providing a trickle of power here and there, but always feeding upwards, and almost always with the same broad agenda. You can smash one gate, or two gates, or fifty gates and the system will keep on going. It is anti-fragile by design. It is not a house made of rotten wood, it is an aztec temple where each granite step is soaked in the suffering of the people of Britain.

The sheer number of people needed to keep it running shields the individuals in the system from feeling responsible and being held responsible. Sarah the civil servant, Mike the low level functionary, Dave the intern; all these people provide a single brick into a wall that is being built around us. As individuals people will dismiss them as 'Just doing their jobs!', but their job is to work towards crushing us. I dislike sounding like a madman - even though I clearly am one - but it is the system itself that we should orient ourselves against; individual heads of that malformed Hydra should be tackled, yes, but people should not forget the necks and the body. It all needs rooting out, it has to go or there is nothing else to be done. If you are reading this, you are a political dissident, you are an enemy of the state. The state wields the absolute and arbitrary power to kill you at any time, and they are more than happy to use it. You are a revolutionary, whether you like it or not.
 

Excellent video; I admit it corroborates my cognitive bias on the issues I have been discussing regarding the limits of the state. One issue is the size of the Police force of about 140,000, but a lot are nearing retirement.

London - 46,000
Manchester - GMP - 8,146
Scotland - 16,000
Liverpool - 3,400
Northern Ireland - 6,330 Full-time

Now, think about these locations and that they are all hotspots. Now add in cuts and retirements, and how quickly that number depletes. The military is not complying either, and the government wants to keep them away because it could exacerbate the military and the public to unify and effectively become guerrillas. I have been fascinated by civil wars for years, but one constant is that when stuff starts rolling, it goes very fast.

I understand why the government is terrified because there are too many people at the gates. You cannot use your military because they hate you and the current king. Your police are spread so thin, and remember, out of those numbers come security details too.

Now, with the budget coming, unemployment is about to skyrocket. Several industries are going to crash all around the same time: civil, construction, service, and retail. The construction industry is currently screaming, and good summers are bad winters, meaning the industry halts. The civil is just packed and cannot continue. I forgot to add education too because schools are all effectively bankrupt as of September due to exam costs going up. A lot cannot even afford repairs because they have to pay teachers.

I am telling you this winter is going to be fun.
 
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Trans activists vow to 'fight' government guidance: 'It's a war!':




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Landmark legal battle could force overhaul of 'woke' gender identity guidance in major shake-up:




Wrexham bin workers follow Birmingham's lead to strike over pay and poor working conditions:




National Crime Agency takes over investigation into former police officers accused of child sexual abuse:




Prince Andrew lost his virginity at 11, new royal book claims




UK toddler cured from 'untreatable' brain condition after doctors led world-first 'fight against time':




Rachel Reeves 'vastly underestimated' scale of parents' rebellion over school VAT raid:




@Kier Starmer All of Wales' Police Forces are down 20% in terms of all staff since 2019 as well.
 
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