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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Made In Wales said:
Nobody should feel threatened if they've done nothing wrong, and there's sadly many incidents of doxxing under false pretenses and bad actors - now the diaper furry mentioned on the front page has done wrong things and should be exposed as a degenerate. If a person is a sex offender and especially if they have or could very well abuse a child then I am for journalism in that regard.

In an ideal world, common sense would prevail - Kiwi Farms and Tattle are not dangerous or bad websites and those who get flamed often deserve it as the evidence against them is usually staggering.
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I hope I'm not shitting up everyone's Greggs vegan sausage roll thread as a burger continuing this, but I'm doing so because you're actually involved in Reform politics, which I think is admirable. Anyway, this attitude may have been prevalent in the history of this site, but opposition and controversy forced people to grapple with the difficult questions and clarify their positions, and this idea of whether a person "deserves it" has been deemed reddit-brained. Null has settled on the position of look, don't touch, and that is still plenty to make very bad people with things to hide seethe; but over on the snark subreddits, they know that whatever happens on KF, it's bad because we're bad people and go after the wrong targets, whereas they are justified because they go after actual bad people and thus can swat them or whatever for upvotes. It's a very human impulse, I even see it with users here who are just angry and want to fuck with someone and look tough, and they're looking for whatever acceptable target gives them the excuse; the good thing is the site culture around here generally sees them mocked and told off, and hopefully they learn something from it.

Now common sense prevailing does sound good; all your own moral impulses that tell you what's right and what's wrong, whom to support and oppose, those are valuable and a society that could agree and organize around them would be very powerful indeed. However, my core thesis here is you do not need to carry all of those goals into government. Government has to make laws that affect all of society, they have to govern for the lowest common denominator, and that's always going to doom fixes that appeal to common sense or need to apply discretion. Not to sound like a lolbert, but legislating this stuff always comes down to being willing to send the avatars of the state monopoly on violence to kidnap or murder someone who doesn't see it your way. Sometimes when there's a problem in society, it doesn't mean the state didn't do enough, or did the wrong thing; sometimes the state just needs to get the fuck out of the way. Nuance and judgment are things applied by harmonious communities, not national legislators.

So, because you did a noble thing and have involved yourself in politics because you care about your country and want the best for it, I'm petitioning you on this online hate site to ask you to consider opposing the proposition of your fellow party member, and to be a voice within the party against online ID. Consider, when the current regime has cocked something up, how often is it they should have done something else, and how often could they have just...not done anything at all?
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
M&S for £15 and eat like a king
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M&S chocolate digestives, about fucking 70p for something that even the mcvities ones would be at least £1. Every so often I go to M&S just to shove an entire box of them in the trolley because they're so fucking cheap somehow. Normally rip them open and leave them to go soft because they're made for dunking in tea so a bit hard normally. All I'm saying is a year's worth of chocolate digestives beats a single shitty takeaway and is probably not that much more unhealthy.
Made In Wales said:
@femboy fart huffer I agree that the China/North Korea route is not the way, I'd just like to see if possible a sensible compromise between the freedom for me and others to use the internet and the freedom to not have that experience ruined by bad actors from sex offenders to scammers etc.
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There isn't. This isn't a 'just needs to invent the technology' type argument. This is just fundamental to how the internet works. If you want ID verification you either need to tie that to a website or to a computer. We currently have the former, it has not stopped anyone doing anything. Unless the entire world somehow agrees on doing that exact thing it will never work. The latter is what China has. There is no third option. There is nowhere else in the chain of technology where you could insert ID verification without it acting fundamentally identically as one of those two options. There is no place to compromise, that's the problem. That is exactly the problem. Even if there was some mystical third option it's pointless. Most online criminals are fucking retarded, people openly advertise cp trades on twitter, drug dealers will dm you all the time all that sort of shit. Those we can already deal with, the police just don't give a shit. The ones that are more tech savvy might be threatened by some sort of ID check, but those people will know their way around a computer, any system that gives you any shred of privacy will just be exploited by those people. Unless you remove 100% of your privacy then it will never catch criminals because they will just use that privacy to continue their illegal actions.

Let's put it this way. The uk has more cctv cameras than the average scifi dystopia. Has crime reduced since allowing the government to record your every movement? Surveillance does not reduce crime. Hardly even increases conviction rate. It only exists to infringe on your privacy. There is no half measures when it comes to freedom. You are either free or you are not. You cannot have it half and half.
 
mold said:
I think about this passage from That Hideous Strength a lot
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Same book where he described a civilisation that lived on the moon, who were so disgusted with physical contact that their married couples only had sex with robotic facsimiles of one another. He was rather prescient at times, Lewis.
 
African man today on the London subway pulls down pants on the train car. British men proceed to teach him a lesson on public decency.


I'm happy that people stood up and did something rather than being apathic toward it.
 
femboy fart huffer said:
M&S chocolate digestives, about fucking 70p for something that even the mcvities ones would be at least £1.
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I'm just glad that niggers and cheapskates haven't cottoned on to the fact that M&S is cheaper than people assume it is, especially regarding price:quality foods. I like being able to shop there knowing that it won't be filled to the brim with Pakis or mums in their pjs hovering around the discount aisle after dropping the kids off.
 
@Made In Wales I know others have already replied to you on the topic but I'll be clearer.

Digital ID to stop degeneracy online is the same as and will be less effective than the "knives with a point should be illegal. Including kitchen knives," suggestion that got traction after the Southport stabbings. It will stop nothing but will make life worse for the general public.

I am a technological moron and I got hold of TOR and accessed Kiwifarms via Onion links during the delightful times of Drop KF. Children who have been brought up with technology to hand will be able to circumvent digital ID effortlessly so the main justification for it, protecting children, falls at the first fence.

The argument that it needs to be done to stop crimes is the chant used by authoritarian governments across the world.

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DrakosBiz said:
African man today on the London subway pulls down pants on the train car. British men proceed to teach him a lesson on public decency.

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I'm happy that people stood up and did something rather than being apathic toward it.
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"fuck timmy don do-ACK!"

Well done those lads. Its about time these wastes of skin started finding out the hard way.

Still far too many gormless fucks sat there doing nothing, but clearly a few stout men is still all it takes.
 
EddyRooney said:
This is a naive question, but is it not possible to boycott Deliveroo, Just Eat and all these other delivery companies that employ illegals on bikes ? Or just companies that employ illegals full stop ?
I don't know how it works, I don't have food delivered to my house. I tend to buy my food from the local shops and supplement it with supermarkets for things I have to buy. I don't really understand the lifestyle of people that would view food delivery as a necessity. I suppose they just don't care about us being invaded.
Does anybody else have a list of companies they won't do business with ? I have several ( I've mentioned it a few months ago ).
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We rarely get delivery as well, butI was so happy the other week when I suggested getting food delivered and my missus refused to use either Uber Eats or Deliveroo on that basis. This stuff really is hitting the normies now.

In the end we did get a kebab delivered, but we phoned the shop directly and it was delivered by a nice white lady driving a volvo estate, so I think it was all above board.

In other "normie news", my mum sent me a WhatsApp message about a migrant hotel protest that she'd seen on Facebook. There was a Union Jack banner with "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH" printed on it. The blurb was at pains to note that the planned protest is "completely not racist" and that "violence of any kind is not welcome", which is probably a good idea if you're going to post it on Facebook.
 
A couple of pages ago I posted a poll showing that 20% of the public would consider political violence if life got worse. The crosstabs for that poll have been published, showing the following;

Those who would consider taking part in political violence if conditions declined by current party support

SNP; 26%
Labour; 24%
Reform; 23%
Would not vote; 21%
Conservative; 20%
Green; 15%
Lib Dem; 13%
Plaid Cymru; 13%

By region/country

London; 27%
Scotland; 26%
West & East Midlands; 22%
North West England; 19%
Wales; 19%
(all others below 15%)

(source; https://merlinstrategy.com/recent-polling/
'Looking for Growth', 7th August. It is an Excel file.)
 
Gregis said:
Should have bet my life savings it would be the Scots who were most ready to kick off, free fookin money. That London result is a little surprising though...
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Similar rates across the country and the political spectrum means it's not one of the immigrant ghettos skewing the average, which implies it's the majority native population getting restless.
 
BongoMongo said:
Has anybody read about Kyle "Zoe" Watts, the former PCSO who was jailed in 2021 for having banned weapons, and explosive substances and for making an IED, and is now in trouble for trying to make a 3D printed gun?

Oh look that thing that never happens is happening again. Mentally ill unstable fetishist man is being violent.
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He's just been jailed for 8.5 years.

Link
 
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