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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
For all people talk about how shit it is in the bug-hives, I've had a nice trip out to a steam rally today and you wouldn't know there was a single bomalian in the country. The whole scene could have been 50 years ago with little to no change.
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I could hazard a guess as to which one. Almost went myself but tickets are quite pricey. Do they still have a wall of death? Seeing one of those was a highlight of my childhood.
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
There's something incredibly funny about how the majority of people in this thread grew up as left wingers and have been radicalised by society into being further right than any political party that's an option to us.
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It's normal for people to grow up and become more conservative. When you're young and have no knowledge or wealth you have nothing to protect. As you get older you turn more right wing because the naive world view is beaten out of you and you have something to protect. Our collapsing society made it more extreme.

Almighty Space Duck said:
I could hazard a guess as to which one. Almost went myself but tickets are quite pricey. Do they still have a wall of death? Seeing one of those was a highlight of my childhood.
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There's lots of steam rallies going on across the country. They're local things and don't get more advertising though.
 
Overly Serious said:
Sweden is currently paying immigrants to return to their own country. The UK should do the same but with a twist. Institute the program with the £10,000 or whatever you get for going home (I think Sweden pays 7000SEK from memory) and get lots of people signing up, filling out the forms, etc. Then when you've got all their details and evidence that they actually can go home safely, just round those ones up and ship them off. Sort of like King Solomon's gambit with the baby - it's just a way of finding out who is lying.
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They're gradually going to raise it to 350000 SEK ($34,000) from it's current 40000 SEK ($4000), which was previously 10000 SEK ($1000) This is how they're going to get people to leave, but they've also coupled with being far stricter on who they grand residency to and how many they grant at all.

A while back I threw out a 200 billion pound figure, which was me doing 24k GBP x [number of Muslims], which is how much it'd cost if you paid them to all leave, simultaneously (sorting for households might make it much lower but I digress). 24k is enough to buy you a large house in Pakistan, and it goes even further in Bangladesh, so it's not a paltry sum to get sent home with by any means.

I know these people don't deserve to be paid just for merely being an unwanted guest, as it feels like rewarding your attacker, but if you want them gone-gone forever it's the only optically clean way to do it. To save some cash you could implement a bunch of implicitly anti-Muslim acts - non-stun slaughter, no niqabs, no child circumcision - to have the more devout go back home as it becomes more inconvenient for them to live here. Then, once they're gone, that's when you roll out the bribes.

As it stands, unless there's a number of mass casualty events, I don't think people are quite at that level where they'd want to kick them all out via force and/or trickery yet. Currently we're just at the "fuck them all off" phase, so it'll take more boiling of the native population and hostile action on the Muzzies part before people are angry enough to want something so radical.

And, push come to shove, we don't need to do anything that complex.
"Fuck off, you're all illegal now" is a viable strat.
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(This lives rent free in my head, it's my go-to whenever people say "we can't", because if Ghana can, we most certainly can too.)

Also the money thing could have an unintended, petty benefit of fucking over the home country as hundreds of thousands of wealthy people flood in, further contributing to the local class/poverty divide as house prices spike further from all these quasi-foreigners buying up property and potentially causing some instability down the road.

So if we:
1. Grant 0 new citizenships to non-natives.
2. Allow 0 immigrants into the country I.E. no visas, no asylum seekers, no circumstance
3. Restrict Muslim religious practices a la Denmark
4. Incentivised self-deportation a la Sweden
I reckon we'd be back to normal with our demographics in less than a decade.
Kofi Drinka said:
Those numbers aren't the white pill they might seem. We could have zero immigration ever again and we would still have a major problem with what's already here. The statistics will say the foreigners born are the same as the natives.
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Sweden hit its critical mass in 2023 (the demographics are shocking tbh). A year later, they're actually making an effort to fix it. They've only just started this process keep in mind, so whilst I'm maybe jumping the gun on them being "saved", I think one can certainly have some hope for the Swedes now that it's actually in motion.

Regarding the issues with the people who'll remain, I think many will leave voluntarily if they feel like shit's starting to boil. Mentioned above, restricting the Muzzies cultural practices will compel the most devout of them to leave if they got the money to. Those that remain after will probably be tempted via a bribe (incentivised self-deportation) to fuck-off forever. Those that remain afterwards will probably be small enough to be regarded by the wider population as inconsequential, and they may even become performatively meek and CivNat like the Sikhs parade themselves to be.

For what you want (forced at gunpoint solution), things will have to get a lot worse I reckon and the Muslims will have to be a lot more aggressive than they are currently; the sort of routine aggression that can't be ignored, swept under the rug by the higher ups, and done frequently enough that people are forced to acknowledge the reality of that group in spite of how uncomfortable it makes them feel. However, there hasn't been such an attack since Southport so the steady simmer of current attitudes/rhetoric is probably going to cap out at remigration + immigration freeze + banning non-stun slaughter and niqabs. If that provokes a violent reaction from them, then people will probably clamour for more to be done by the government, assuming the people don't decide to act on their own initiative.

I don't often explore the possibility of things getting there (violent, forceful, etcetera) on the immigration/non-native issue because I don't think people will necessarily get to that level if Reform do something. If all they do is cull immigration numbers for a decade whilst doing nothing else, then I do think they've ultimately just delayed an eventual confrontation, but that's a decade or two away if I had to tie an estimate on it.
 
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For what you want (forced at gunpoint solution), things will have to get a lot worse I reckon and the Muslims will have to be a lot more aggressive than they are currently; the sort of routine aggression that can't be ignored, swept under the rug by the higher ups, and done frequently enough that people are forced to acknowledge the reality of that group in spite of how uncomfortable it makes them feel
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Maybe something like raping children constantly?
 
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2. Allow 0 immigrants into the country I.E. no visas, no asylum seekers, no circumstance
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That would hit universities hard. They'd have to start trying to make it up by brining more native British people in. And I've seen the devastation caused by just the current level of university educated people in this country. I'm not sure Britain could survive even more.
 
I dunno if this is true or not but someone I know who works as a cop in the cUK told me all police leave across the country has been cancelled and all coppers were told to be ready to be called up for riot duty at a moments notice.

Are the cUK people actually doing something at last or is this just the cUK elites shitting themselves over a few soccer mom's outside of some hotels?
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
I dunno if this is true or not but someone I know who works as a cop in the cUK told me all police leave across the country has been cancelled and all coppers were told to be ready to be called up for riot duty at a moments notice.

Are the cUK people actually doing something at last or is this just the cUK elites shitting themselves over a few soccer mom's outside of some hotels?
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The country is in a state of unrest. Their hotels are under siege and every time they move the occupants it kicks off else where. If they didn't expect it to get very hot soon they would be criminally insane.
 
Overly Serious said:
Then when you've got all their details and evidence that they actually can go home safely, just round those ones up and ship them off.
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Anyone who has claimed asylum and then gone back there for a nice holiday can be on that list for starters.
People running in fear do not swan off back to the fatherland for a holiday
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
There's something incredibly funny about how the majority of people in this thread grew up as left wingers and have been radicalised by society into being further right than any political party that's an option to us.
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Honestly until about 2011 I was fairly apolitical, if not a little right wing on some issues. But having grew up around the "stunning diversity", being directly effected by it and seeing first hand for decades on just how bad it is and almost having a mini culture shock when ever I used to travel to areas less, if not zero brown then it made me far more right wing then what you can possibly imagine.~

I also had a direct run in with a far left professor when I was in college, he decided to tell an entire room of white boys that we were all basically unhirable because we were all white and male (he was also a white man). I naturally got annoyed since I don't like the idea of some condescending lib shit professor telling me that I wont ever get a job in my chosen field because of my characteristics and decided to lay into him on why and how wrong it is to try "correct" inequality by just pushing inequality in the opposite direction. Anyways it ended in him calling a much younger me a Nazi (extra funny to me since I have family who were prosecuted by the Nazis) and I ended up just making fun of how much of a hypocrite he is and calling him a "fucking idiot" among other things before I was kicked out of that class and banned from ever sitting it again.

The irony in the long run to me anyways on how hard he tried to push leftist doctrine onto us only backfired and made most people in that room right, if not far right and most never attended his classes ever again. Anyways that's my cry baby, alt right back story and these days I have zero sympathy or shits to be given to people on the left and I am willing to make zero comprises.
 
I have and still am a Liberal in the classical sense

It's just that the meaning and use of that word has been corrupted by those who wear it's skin as a attempt to hide their real intentions.

The modern day left is just a bunch of authoritarians wearing the skinsuit of Liberalism to hide who they really are.
 
Some news with a mainly Welsh angle today:


Kick-off delayed as Newport County's ground is evacuated following medical emergency:




'Worthless' flats where people feel stuck as mortgage companies won't touch them:




Yet at the same time...

Flats the size of garden sheds are being built in a Welsh 'high-rise HMO':




Airbnb host turns down booking after finding out guests are Welsh:




Hollywood star Gary Busey pleads guilty to sex offence 'during photo op':


 
Overly Serious said:
And I've seen the devastation caused by just the current level of university educated people in this country. I'm not sure Britain could survive even more.
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Did you see the earlier posted article about them trying to set up a university to civil service positions pipeline? Expect it to get worse.
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
The modern day left is just a bunch of authoritarians wearing the skinsuit of Liberalism to hide who they really are.
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This is always bullshit. Both sides take power and use it's authority to push further into the ideology. Acting like the left hates power and it's illegitimate when they do it is like a child crying when they get punched in the mouth for trying to bully another kid. This is the end game of all left wing ideology. An open borders where everyone is everything and nothing so it's all equal slop.

"I'm a classic liberal" means you're wanting to set up the dominoes for diversity 2 to target your great grand kids.
 
Classic Liberalism has at it's core, the belief that all human beings are blank slates at birth; that we are created with no preconceived differences beyond the immediately superficial. This is fundamentally incorrect. Anything that flows from this, is therefore fundamentally incorrect. You can have classic liberalism work, only if you add in 'But only for the British' or 'Only for the Swedish' onto everything.
 
Idk what the fuck happened last night honestly. All I remember is getting drunk and then it was fucking 6am and the sun was up. At some point I ended up in some normie shithole talking about immigration and specifically Ireland. There was someone who started the post off by saying they were trans for some reason lol, they then went on to say that they thought the nationalist protests and shit were against British colonialism and thought they were cool until they found out that it's not actually against the brits and now how it's cringe lol. The typical American 6.5% Irish retard hopped up on too many marvel and starwars films thinking that the provos were just like my heccin valid princess leia. Me when Irish nationalists rise up against a foreign invading power trying to destroy the country and it's culture :) me when the same thing happens aside from they're brown instead of british :( if there's even a difference between 'brown' and 'british' at this point. I mean one of them involved bombing parliament and shooting people to death, the other is just marching and chanting, somehow the latter is the cringe and bad one? Idk just wait until you hear what the provos would have thought about the current state of Ireland as a whole, believe it or not but the violent Irish nationalist groups didn't have poc space aliens in their ranks, they were exclusively Irish men fighting for the future and freedom of fellow irishmen. I really love Americans who's only interaction with my country is black an tans and calling that their favourite song from the troubles.

I wish I had a screenshot but honestly I don't even fucking know what platform it was on lol. I don't even know if it was a real thing or if it was just a drunken fever dream honestly.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
This is always bullshit. Both sides take power and use it's authority to push further into the ideology. Acting like the left hates power and it's illegitimate when they do it is like a child crying when they get punched in the mouth for trying to bully another kid. This is the end game of all left wing ideology. An open borders where everyone is everything and nothing so it's all equal slop.

"I'm a classic liberal" means you're wanting to set up the dominoes for diversity 2 to target your great grand kids.
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Very true, though there are those 'rare unicorn' type Liberals who can see the danger of losing their culture as it would impact on them directly.

You can't be a geeky and quirky liberal under Sharia law, after all.
 
Chunky Salsa said:
Classic Liberalism has at it's core, the belief that all human beings are blank slates at birth; that we are created with no preconceived differences beyond the immediately superficial. This is fundamentally incorrect. Anything that flows from this, is therefore fundamentally incorrect. You can have classic liberalism work, only if you add in 'But only for the British' or 'Only for the Swedish' onto everything.
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This. Liberalism itself is flawed, and the utopia seeking is at the core of the philosophy. The British State isn't pretending to be liberal. It IS Liberal. If all men are created equal and have equal inherent value, then a boat nigger that arrived in the UK yesterday is no less valuable then someone who was born in the UK to a family that traces its ancestry back to fucking Boudecia.

In fact pointing out the natives have a greater claim to the land the boat niggers is an inherently illiberal concept. Anyone who believes that cant by definition be liberal, because it betrays a core belief value of the philosophy. Its why the government hates nativists so much.
 
Overly Serious said:
That would hit universities hard. They'd have to start trying to make it up by brining more native British people in. And I've seen the devastation caused by just the current level of university educated people in this country. I'm not sure Britain could survive even more.
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They'd need to focus on quality over quantity. Also it's not like they'd lose income since the state is shouldering the burden of loans anyway. They might have to — heaven forbid! — downsize and be more selective about what courses they have on offer.
Kofi Drinka said:
Maybe something like raping children constantly?
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A few people I know hold to the (correct) stereotype that Muslims are either creepy or pervy, mostly girls. My aunt once walked home, drunk enough that she wobbled, because she didn't want to risk getting in an uber or taxi with one. The main thing holding a lot of Britons back is that not enough people are aware of the stats, and don't believe or remain ignorant to the fact their culture/religion inclines them towards rape - just a few bad apples. Though I think more and more people are just generally adopting the opinion that "they're bad" in general, at least the men.

"If they knew they could get away with it, they would rape you," is something I ought to drop in heated conversations in the issue, because I feel it would apply regardless of the listener's sex.
 
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