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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Yeah, we've been starting to collect Switch video games too. I like how uniform they look; it pleases me. We do tend to buy our favourite series like The Office and King of the Hill, and oddly, only horror movies. We do have all the Kaiju films, which are hard to get in the UK, and I was surprised how much they were worth.
Can't be arsed with physical media any more. If things get that bad the last thing I'm worried about is if I can play games or watch movies. I will keep games that mean a lot to me and a system to play them but all the old stuff is just junk. Emulation is so good there's no need to own 50 gameboy games, your phone will play them better than real hardware.

"Our Tommeh!" is a civnat faggot who is for sure in the way of what needs to happen; but he sure as fuck is a funny guy. I can't dislike the man, I really can't. Especially as he was one of the first to raise the issue of paki rape gangs.
Tommy pimped out Lauren Southern to Andrew Tate to fund documentaries. He has no problem with Muslims if they have enough money.

I feel rather black pilled lads and lasses. I've been traveling the island the last month trying to get a better picture of the state of things. I've seen every country in our little united Kingdom and today I went to my home town again. The place we used to catch the bus to and go for a days shopping. There were 1 in every 5 were white. And those were junkies, prostitutes or speaking a foreign language. It looked like London. I felt so alienated that other nations feel more like home to me than the place I was born. It's dirty, it feels dangerous and there were hordes of random browns/blacks hanging around. Brexit removing the Polish accelerated the decline (intentionally I'm sure). Every time I visit there's less white people and the few you do see are often baby sitting obvious foreigners with no English skills. The shops are all garbage and feel dirty inside because no one cares. The staff talk with European accents if they're white at all. There's no English people left there any more. No one looks like me and they don't sound like me. I would be better off going to a xenophobic village in Ireland than I would my birth place. They might stick a bomb under my car but at least they'd look like me and not the nasty third world scum oozing all over a once beautiful and lively town. I hope the socialist political party advertising every where are happy. Everyone's getting hand outs because none of the people in that town are employed.
 
. I felt so alienated that other nations feel more like home to me than the place I was born
I did the NC500 recently, and was blown away by the sheer natural beauty of rural Scotland. Everything was clean, the places was stunning to look at, the people were miserable cunts that hated my guts - but because they were Scottish, not because they were subhumans. I got back to the Southern shithole I'm forced by dint of work to live in; and upon entering the roads through the city, I was forced to sharply brake. Why? Because two shirtless lightbulb headed somalians were weaving along the road at maybe 10mph on a petrol dirtbike, screaming mudman tongues at passers by. It gave me a few seconds to look around.

It's filthy, it's filled with blank eyed thirdies, binban women everywhere. It's loud in a way that's hostile rather than just being noisy; the shops are either chicken shops (oh god, how I fucking loathe chicken shops) or they're paki man rip off merchants. Everything else is a literal abu-dabu style third world market. I went into a shop that used to be a normal one, and had since been taken over by some flavour of ethnic detritus, and there was reeking meat just rotting on the side. It's very blackpilling, and I have rejoined the armed forces reserves. I think things are going to get very bad over the next few years.
 
DWP minister gives update on 'bank spying' shake-up as thousands to see money taken straight from accounts:

https://www.gbnews.com/money/dwp-bank-spying-benefit-crackdown-measures
https://archive.ph/wip/MLfsv

I was reading the DWP lost something like 5-6 Billion in one year to fraud alone. Not sure how accurate that is or how it's calculated, but if you take in to account the amount of people fraudulently claiming PIP and whatnot, it might not be far off, as now the PIP genie is out of the bottle claims for it are rising exponentially every year.

So saving 1.5 Billion (as per quoted in your link above) a YEAR seems a little futile and just a drop in the ocean, really. I know of several people claiming PIP fraudulently and the CAB (citizen's advice bureau) willingly help them to do it. Very often people who genuinely need PIP are getting scored 'nil points' on their application and have to resort to solicitors and tribunals, which, guess who pays for all of that? The taxpayer again.

Per that article, it starts with them checking for 'fraud' but then it's a case of mission creep and they are questioning you about your love of and propensity to buy too many fucking chocolate hobnobs! Spending money on fags (either the kind you smoke or the gay variety)? Well, that's absolutely haram! No soup for you! We'll deduct that as well.

It seems we are entering a new phase in the anarcho-tyranny arc. We already have Orwell and Huxley, but they're really ratcheting up the Kafka. The beast is afraid! But I don't think this is half as much about detecting fraud as it is about spying on people's spending habits. Most people only have one bank account (well, especially people on benefits), so as they do away with cash, more and more everything you buy can be tracked in real time via this backdoor app the banks will have to give them by law in to your bank account.

The tyrannical abuse this presents is not even subtle - it's out and out obvious. Never mind the scope for things to go wrong, just the mere fact of its existence is a form of privacy and data rape. And that's where we are at right now at this point in time, because the beast isn't just afraid, it's absolutely shitting itself because it knows it has overplayed its hand and people are more than pissed off, they are just waiting for the opportunity to storm the gates to the castle.

This is just more of the same towards that end of taking away any kind of agency and privacy people might have.

AmneziaWG. It's a fork of Wireguard which disguises all VPN traffic as just normal traffic. That's my backup, it's a Russian-driven port of Wireguard to bypass blocks, so you know it's been tried and tested in Russia.

Good call. Looks interesting. (See my later post on TunSafe, that also uses the Wireguard protocol)

I'd like a source on the whole 'they are gonna ban VPNs' thing. If there was one I missed it. Now, a few pages back I did say they would do exactly this and I even outlined some ways that they might try to bring that about. Most people disagreed with me and said it would never happen, yet here we are. And even if we aren't, we will be soon. As I pointed out before there are several ways they could try to make this happen. Sure, it would be abusive and gross over-reach of powers, but hey ho, just another day in the life of a citizen on Airstrip One.

So, I'll hold on about saying 'I told you so' for the moment, but my hopes aren't high and I really would love to be proved wrong.

I'd make jokes about them getting to the point of working with ISP's to try determine who is using a VPN but they might unironically do that.

That's one vector. But they might nip it in the bud before it gets to that and just make it impossible to buy or take out a sub for a VPN in the first place. That is why 'FREE' VPNs and those that obfuscate the fact they are VPNs will perhaps become more common in the future. For example, Opera has a kind of VPN built in to it but it's more of a HTTP Proxy. How will they ban that and stop the chinks who own it spying on us all who use it - remember if you don't pay for the product...

Talking of FREE (as in beer) VPNs there is one called TunSafe -


IIRC it's done by the guy that invented uTorrent and later on Spotify - Ludvig Strigeus - so he knows a thing or two about Network Engineering.

Features of the TunSafe client​

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  • Works with all types of Internet connections
  • Works with your own WireGuard config files
  • Many features: Kill-Switch, LAN-IP bypass
  • WG-comptatible command line tool
  • Supports IPv4 and IPv6

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TunSafe is officially supported on the following operating systems.

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It will be interesting how they stop things like this. Though I'm kind of skeptical about how they pay for all of this and its included infrastructure if no one pays for it. Remember, You are the product, if...

But like you said, it's not inconceivable that they would work with the ISPs to get them to dob in anyone found using a VPN. It's already possible for the lowliest and most incompetent of web masters to use a look up table for anyone using a VPN and block them, so the tech that the major ISPs have would be several orders of magnitude more than that again. It would certainly be doable should they see fit to step over the boundaries of decency and put their boot on our face, forever...


"Our Tommeh!" is a civnat faggot who is for sure in the way of what needs to happen; but he sure as fuck is a funny guy. I can't dislike the man, I really can't. Especially as he was one of the first to raise the issue of paki rape gangs.

I'm not really a Tommy fan, but I like the way he brings out TDS (Tommy Derangement Syndrome) in some people. He's a grifter and a chancer, but make no mistake about it, rabble-rousers like him are still feared by the state and they would prefer it if he just did not exist. I can't help liking him too, but I certainly wouldn't give him any money. LOL.

But no, he's not going to save us and he's not the messiah. He's just a very naughty boy!
 
I'll get Rainbowed to death for this (and I'll be pissed if I don't..) but NEVER lose hope and never give up.

That is how they win - by defeating and deflating you, by making you feel that it's impossible.

Nothing is impossible - unlikely perhaps, but never impossible.

Show them no fear, after all if killing you is the worst they can do then you already know what their plan is - if they do kill you, what do they gain? Nothing, because people will then realise that no matter what they do they will end up in the same place, and that is when people will rise up.

The road back to happiness begins with change - Reform UK I hope will form the first part of it, but we have to do our bit as well in our communities as Nigel and co. can't do it all. You want leadership, well it starts with you and fighting for your community in making it a better place.

I firmly believe that we're at the point where enough people are clued up about things and realise they've been had.

Things are bad, but the remedy is there if enough of us want it.
 
It's like a very bad Dastardly & Muttley sketch:

Keir Dastardly: 'Haha, Muttley Rayner, we've screwed them for good this time!'

Muttley Rayner: *Autistic Grunting*

Keir Dastardly: 'WHAT! Everybody's now downloading VPN's and calling me a wankwaffle on Kiwi Farms?! MUTTLEY!!'

Muttley Rayner: *SNICKERS*
Fingers crossed the black female Oxford grads keep fucking up their responses to growing ire of Whites.
Y'know, I was wondering when or if the effects of hiring incompetent indians and niggers will show themselves. I said the 'if' to account for the possibility of DEI hires getting shuffled into do-nothing jobs.
I always felt it my bones that the tide would turn sooner or later, but this sooner is a proper sooner. Hopefully we don't cuck out after receiving token concessions.
 
I did the NC500 recently, and was blown away by the sheer natural beauty of rural Scotland. Everything was clean, the places was stunning to look at, the people were miserable cunts that hated my guts - but because they were Scottish, not because they were subhumans. I got back to the Southern shithole I'm forced by dint of work to live in; and upon entering the roads through the city, I was forced to sharply brake. Why? Because two shirtless lightbulb headed somalians were weaving along the road at maybe 10mph on a petrol dirtbike, screaming mudman tongues at passers by. It gave me a few seconds to look around.

It's filthy, it's filled with blank eyed thirdies, binban women everywhere. It's loud in a way that's hostile rather than just being noisy; the shops are either chicken shops (oh god, how I fucking loathe chicken shops) or they're paki man rip off merchants. Everything else is a literal abu-dabu style third world market. I went into a shop that used to be a normal one, and had since been taken over by some flavour of ethnic detritus, and there was reeking meat just rotting on the side. It's very blackpilling, and I have rejoined the armed forces reserves. I think things are going to get very bad over the next few years.
Your town sounds similar to mine and Scotland sounds about the same. I never felt unsafe in Scotland though. I didn't think I had to keep one hand on my wallet or stop with my back to the wall so I could check around me if I needed to use my phone to find where I was going. At home I did.

They might not like me because I'm English. But they never treated me poorly or made me feel unsafe. They were welcoming, friendly and willing to shake hands and share a pint (if I was paying. As the Scottish never will themselves).
Very often people who genuinely need PIP are getting scored 'nil points' on their application and have to resort to solicitors and tribunals, which, guess who pays for all of that? The taxpayer again.
The PIP stuff is so fucked. The papers make it out like everyone on it is scamming the system and they aren't. I live in an area with a lot of industrial injuries lead to good men having to take PIP. Almost all of them have to go through 6 months of tribunal and appeals to get anything. And now everyone is scared if some nosy twat sees them going for a walk the DWP will strip it from them. Some of them got a whack on the head and lost some of their marbles, they appear fine but small things lead to emotional break downs that make them unsuitable for work. The paki's abusing the system and the media reporting all these numbers puts those poor men at risk of losing everything. They have invisible disabilities and if they're not well they don't go out in public so people only ever see them when they're doing okay. They look like scammers and the media is putting out the scammer alarm to get them reported. "I have sad brain" is the buzz words going around the media big brother said to hate and it's going to drive some people to suicide when they lose everything.

I know some middle age men who have very little in life. They're on PIP and whatever the hell disability is called these days. They play Warhammer together once a week and spend some of their money on hobby expenses. Have a beer at the pub they play at and it keeps them socially active and stops them being completely isolated. They rely on that connection to other people and the company of other broken men working together on small projects to build their group resources or to finish their army. PIP is to make disabled people's lives a little easier, to cover extra costs they need over normal people. These broken men need something to live for a their warhammer group stops them killing themselves in an other wise bleak existence. I can see how it's a waste of money to an outsider, but seeing them meet at the pub always makes me think it's doing them some good. The war on PIP and people seeing PIP as a paki's free ride because of sad brain is manufactured by the government. The pakis and scammers need to be removed from it, but there has to be a proper investigation into these things to protect the vulnerable. PIP is a good thing for the people who need it, it's bad that the system is easily manipulated so an honest person will get nothing and a dishonest person will get everything. If one of the men without his marbles said he was depressed and couldn't get out of bed, was too sad to wash and couldn't make a sandwich they would get the whole PIP payment. Saying you occasionally have emotional break downs, can be aggressive and can't handle stress gets you months of stress and waiting on a foreign assessor then a group of experts giving you a call asking if everything you said in your paper work is true. Then making you wait even longer for a judgement.

The cherry on top is if they delay you they give you back payments from when you put in the claim. So you can get on benefits, be given a load of money at once and then you have too much money and can lose your benefits because of it. At minimum they will deduct money from your payments because you just got 2,000 or more money on top of what savings you were using to live on. If it's over 12,000 I think it is they deduct you. If it's over 16,000 they can kick you off all together. You could not guess how many new Xboxes and Playstations got bought when they announced the 16k cut off for universal credit. Sensible people making sure they put a little aside every month so if they ever lost benefits they could survive until they could get back on them or found a job. They all had to spend a thousand or more to make sure they didn't accidentally go over and trigger an immediate check up. They bought expensive electronics or withdrew cash to hide under the matress. The government scared them into wasting money when they had been saving it. 16k isn't a lot of savings with what things cost now. It's enough for an emergency, living in a crap flat and eating beans on toast for dinner every night. It's better to consume and buy junk you don't need on benefits than it is to save them and try to build a better life. Buy a Switch 2 or PS5 when your benefits gets too high because you were too unwell in the head to spend any money this month. One of the warhammer gentleman had a bad spring, barely bought food, didn't go to the pub to play games and ended up panic buying a warhammer army to get his money down when he came out of his funk. He didn't need it or want it, but the government started to dock his benefits for having too much money so he bought things to stop them docking it.

I help these men with their PIP stuff because they don't understand the internet stuff. They're so broken and struggle so hard to get any help. It's not a paki saying they have sad brain so fuck them. Leave them to rot in a run down council flat, barely existing but kept on a knife's edge. Scared if they spend money they will be cut off and homeless and scared if they don't spend money they will be cut off and homeless. It's doing none of them any good but the economic grows I guess.
 
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This time I will say 'I told you so'! Not to anyone on this site, but to anyone anytime the subject of the paki rape gangs came up and we were able to 'discuss' it.

My point was quite simple: the police had to be in on it. I mean, not just turning a blind eye. This whole 'ooh we didn't want to appear racist' shit just doesn't wash. I've researched this more than any sane man should want to ever do and I'm over it now and I've moved on with my life, but still, I felt a little vindicated today after seeing this on the front of the Big Black Cock network:

Women abused as children by Rotherham gangs say police also sexually assaulted them​

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There's all kinds of shit gone on you won't have heard about unless you took the time to delve down the rabbit hole. Suffice it to say, there have been actual councillors from these boroughs and counties who have actually been imprisoned for carrying out rapes on these girls as well. You don't read about that on the news. That is how deep the rot goes.

The reason this was allowed to go on and happen was because people in positions of power like those who who work in the highest of rankings in the council departments and the police were taking it in turns to 'have a go' on these girls themselves. It's nothing more difficult to understand than that.

Police officers 'also abused' Rotherham victims​

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Five women who were exploited by grooming gangs in Rotherham as children say they were also abused police officers in the town at the time.

One says she was raped from the age of 12 by a serving South Yorkshire Police (SYP) officer in a marked police car. He would threaten to hand her back to the gang if she did not comply, she says.

"In a world where you were being abused so much, being raped once [each time] was a lot easier than multiple rapes and I think he knew that," she tells the BBC.

We have seen written accounts from these women, plus testimony from 25 other victims of grooming gangs, with some of them saying that corrupt police officers worked alongside the gangs or failed to act on child sexual exploitation.

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Pretty good little racket they had going on there between them all. They all worked in tandem and in concert, and they all covered for each other when the heat came down. Fuck all do with 'appearing racist' - they were getting their jollies. Most police forces are corrupt, but if you look up the Yorkshire police in particular they are another order of magnitude corrupt again.

Still, life goes on eh. Not a bad time to be an economic migrant asylum seeker.

Life inside Britain's 'poshest' migrant hotel: Asylum seekers enjoy breakfast buffet, four-poster beds, video games and alcohol​



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Mr Knight also films landline phones that appear to be set to allow international calls, and men enjoying music lessons and games of cricket in the car park.

The YouTuber, from Bedfordshire, said: 'I was absolutely shocked at the level of luxury. It was something I didn't expect.

'The mainstream media made out like this was some sort of hell, but I was amazed by the level of food waste and luxury.

'It's changed my opinion on migrant hotels. I used to be supportive of them.'

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Migrant hotels...


If someone had told you that this shit would be a thing around [CURRENT YEAR] you would never have believed them. Just like the actual Police Farce taking it in turns to have a go raping those young children in the back of their actual fucking marked police cars.

But here we are.

Slowly they take away our 'Bread' with rising food inflation.

Let's just see what happens, shall we, when they take away our 'Circuses' as well, with the the OSA and a fucking VPN ban.


 
My point was quite simple: the police had to be in on it. I mean, not just turning a blind eye. This whole 'ooh we didn't want to appear racist' shit just doesn't wash. I've researched this more than any sane man should want to ever do and I'm over it now and I've moved on with my life, but still, I felt a little vindicated today after seeing this on the front of the Big Black Cock network:
Would you mind doing an effort post about this? It would be nice to know what else you found.

I assumed the police were in on it. If you turn a blind eye we'll let you have a go on a 14 year old too sort of thing. How many of the police were white and how many were "community liaison officers"?

I feel like me and a couple of other lads in the thread are the only ones not banging underage girls. Jimmy Saville doesn't seem quite so special any more. Everyone is diddling the teeny-boppers.
 
I'm fully convinced some councils were in on it, they're fucking terrified of Reform getting in and having access to the files because it'll ruin everything.

But the big fear is that it goes far deeper than that, the fact it took that policeman to die before he could be named is horrifying because it just screams "super injunction" that cannot be touched. If it's deeper than the police then how far does it go? Is the online safety deal to ensure that when we get the list of MPs involved it can be silenced?
 
The cherry on top is if they delay you they give you back payments from when you put in the claim. So you can get on benefits, be given a load of money at once and then you have too much money and can lose your benefits because of it. At minimum they will deduct money from your payments because you just got 2,000 or more money on top of what savings you were using to live on. If it's over 12,000 I think it is they deduct you. If it's over 16,000 they can kick you off all together. You could not guess how many new Xboxes and Playstations got bought when they announced the 16k cut off for universal credit.

Actually, if you do get a back payment from PIP they can not take that off you. Just like if you are awarded PIP that then makes you eligible for SDP (Severe Disability Premium) if you are already on ESA, which you probably will be. I know someone that got nearly 15K back dated in PIP and therefore was eligible for over 10K back payment of SDP on top of his ESA. nearly 25K. And he didn't have to pay back a penny!

Look up 'Temporary Disregard' and you will see that they can not take back dated payments off you.

I get what you are saying though. I don't disagree. It just depends on circumstances.

The rationale with having exemptions for back payments is the fact that if you were given the money when you should have had it, you would have spent it on the things you would have needed, so they can't retroactively take that back from you.

Once more, google 'Temporary Disregard' - in fact for back payments over 5K there is a permanent disregard. Very often a temporary disregard will run for either 6 months or 12 months and then, yes, you do need to get rid of that money by then or you will be penalised.

The information is out there. I appreciate it is dense and difficult to navigate, especially when people have genuine 'sad brain' or brain fog sometimes even due to physical ailments. You won't have kidney disease without getting a hefty dose of clinical depression on top - it's just not possible. Now that is gen 'sad brain' - a slow painful death that not even meds can help you with because every med you can possibly take just fucks your liver/kidneys even more.

Some people have it really fucking rough.

I'm of the mind that most people claiming PIP are shirkers and malingerers, because if you've ever had to jump through the hoops to get PIP there can't be fuck all wrong with you - you need the stamina of a fucking Olympic Athlete.

It's a bit like Catch-22 by Joseph Heller.

I'm being slightly flippant and trite here, but still.

One thing is true, the very most vulnerable and sick do not get PIP, it's just too much of a hurdle to climb. Especially when PIP assessors get paid to fail people. Wouldn't you fail every other fucker to get a bonus at the end of the day. And most of these so called assessors are not even doctors they are fucking physiotherapists and whatnot.

Yeah, PIP is a scam for many. Far too many. And those in most genuine need miss out and are made to suffer. The system is broken.

But the purpose of any system is what it does.

So it's 'fit for purpose' in that sense.

By the way, the cut off point for getting Universal Credit is 16K and they take assets in to consideration as well.

But any amount over 6K will mean you get a certain proportional amount deducted on top, up to all the way of the 16K cut off point where you will just get nothing at all.

So you can't even have over 6K in the bank without it hurting you. I realise we can't give benefits to people with big savings in the bank. But fuck me, 6K is just safety net money. It's money for private health care when the NHS fails you. It's barely a new fridge, washing machine etc. etc. kind of thing. All the while, the stinking rich with their imaginary wealth which is really just trailing 0's on a bank account statement get to live a life of luxury, plus they get to have a safety net that the poor just don't have. It's wrong.

My politics are not left. They are not right. They aren't even centrist. There is no form of politics that caters to people like me who understand the system to such a deep intrinsic level. I believe the harder working and the cleverer among us should be rewarded. But I also believe there should be a safety net for those genuinely in need.

Anyway, just thought I'd clarify that about having too much money - as long as it comes from a back payment, you can get a temporary or permanent disregard. You still have to declare it though as it's still considered capital. You'd get in shit if you didn't even though it's still allowed.

HTH.
 
Time for news fun

Trans teen's parents to sue police over his death
The parents of a transgender teenager who took his own life after going missing are taking High Court legal action against Sussex Police.
Jason Pulman was found dead in Hampden Park, Eastbourne, in April 2022.
An inquest in April 2024 concluded the 15-year-old's emotional and mental needs were "inadequately assessed and provided for" by multiple services and that police "responded inadequately" to his disappearance.
Sussex Police has offered condolences to the family but says it cannot comment further.
Emily and Mark Pulman are now suing the force over an alleged breach of human rights, with around 10 hours passing between Jason being reported missing and an officer first attending their family home.
The couple claim police "failed properly or at all to protect Jason against the risk of suicide" after he was graded a medium risk, adding that there was a "real prospect of a different outcome" if there had been a "reasonable response" to Jason's disappearance.

An inquest jury concluded failings in Jason's care could have contributed to his death
Jason began identifying as a male at about 14 but never received specialist gender dysphoria treatment due to assessment delays, his parents said.
In documents filed at the High Court, Mr and Mrs Pulman said Jason also received insufficient mental health support.
When he went missing, his mother said she told a police call handler he was transgender, had previously self-harmed and attempted to take his own life, and may have taken public transport.
The call handler graded Jason as medium risk but an officer did not look at the case for more than three hours after the first call, despite Mrs Pulman ringing police twice more and stating Jason had informed a friend he was travelling to London, most likely by train, she said.
Jason remained graded as medium risk, the British Transport Police were not notified and an officer did not attend the family's home for almost 10 hours after the first call.
Jason's body was found by a member of the public about an hour after that visit.

Mrs Pulman said: "If the police can actually take accountability for what has happened and what went wrong, that is the only way they can start making changes."
Jason's stepfather Mr Pulman added: "No amount of money, no apology, is going to make up for three years of what they've done because that's long-term damage."
A Sussex Police spokesperson said: "Our sincere condolences remain with Jason's family following their tragic loss, however, we are unable to comment further whilst legal proceedings are ongoing."
Some Greggs news
The boss of the UK’s largest bakery chain has denied that Britain has reached “peak Greggs”, after reporting a drop in earnings as consumers lost their appetite for baked goods such as sausage rolls and pastries during recent spells of hot weather.

Greggs, which operates 2,649 shops across the UK, notched up more than £1bn in sales in the first six months of the year for the first time, but its profits fell as it battled rising costs, lower footfall and more weather disruption than in 2024.


The company reported a pre-tax profit of £63.5m in the 26 weeks to 28 June, down 14.3% compared with a year earlier. It had warned at the beginning of this month that its profits would be lower after consumers shunned flaky bakes in favour of cold drinks during the hot weather.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-cash-strapped-shoppers-away-from-high-street
“I absolutely don’t believe we have reached peak Greggs,” the company’s chief executive, Roisin Currie, said.

“There have been previous times in our history where we have seen downturns and we came back through again. The business is fundamentally strong.”

She said there were still parts of the UK where the public had no access to a Greggs, and that the chain was underrepresented in retail parks, supermarkets and roadside and transport locations.

The company has plans to open about 150 stores a year and is testing out “bite-size” Greggs – a smaller outlet focused on a narrow range of its bestsellers – so that it can rent pricier locations in the south.

Currie said sales had been hit during the warm spell across much of the UK as people ate less on very hot days.

She said trade at breakfast time remained resilient but that sales, particularly of hot foods, were down during the rest of the day as temperatures rose. Iced drinks were one of the few items to buck the trend.

Currie described conditions as challenging, with consumer confidence low and people “saving rather than spending”, especially those on lower incomes.

Greggs said its customers bought baked goods more often when they had “convenient access” to its shops, based on analysis of how its app and stores perform. As a result, the company – which sells about 1m sausage rolls a day – still plans to open at least 350 more outlets, including about 150 this year, and said it could see “clear opportunity” for operating more than 3,000 in the future.

It intends to open more stores in areas “beyond traditional high street locations”, and relocate existing shops to better sites. It will roll out its frozen “bake at home” range to Tesco supermarkets from September.

Despite this, the company’s half-year results have prompted some analysts to raise concerns that UK appetite for Greggs could have peaked as health-conscious consumers choose lower-calorie options instead of pastries.


“Greggs had warned profits would be lower than the same period last year, as the UK’s good weather stifled demand. This will do little to address fears the UK has hit peak Greggs,” said Zoe Gillespie, a wealth manager at RBC Brewin Dolphin.

Others queried why the company had not shared more information about how sales had fared over the past month, at a time of school summer holidays when it is expected that tourists and day-trippers would be seeking out food on the go.

“Lack of information on current trading has left investors wondering if the business has become as stale as a day-old Belgian bun,” said Russ Mould, the investment director at the broker AJ Bell.

“This situation won’t stop the growing debate about whether Greggs has reached peak sausage roll.

“There are suggestions it has grown too fast, the menu is too bloated and consumer tastes are changing. People want healthier options, and while Greggs has some of these in its stores, the core pastry-based items remain its bread and butter.”

Currie said more than 30% of Greggs’ product range were now healthy options and that the company was mindful of the potential future impact of diet drugs such as Ozempic.

She said the proportion of the population taking such drugs was currently very small and so any change in their eating habits was unlikely to have contributed to a slowdown in sales at the chain. However, “it is important for us to have a variety of protein-led options to cater for them”, she said.

And of course Keir being Keir. For a rarity this looks like a Tump move using him as the puppet but it's still going to backfire hard
The British government has said it will officially recognise Palestine as a state in September - unless Israel meets certain conditions.

Following an emergency cabinet meeting on Gaza, Sir Keir Starmer made the announcement on Tuesday after a meeting with US President Donald Trump the previous day.


He said the UK will recognise a Palestinian state by the UN general assembly in September unless Israel meets several conditions.

They are:

• Israel takes substantive steps to end the "appalling situation in Gaza"

• Israel agrees to a ceasefire

• Israel commits to a long-term sustainable peace - reviving the prospect of a two-state solution

• Israel must allow the UN to restart the supply of aid


• There must be no annexations in the West Bank.

Just last week, the Israeli Knesset (parliament) voted in favour of annexing the West Bank.

Sir Keir's announcement is a shift in his narrative, as he has previously said he wanted to recognise Palestine as a state, but only as a "wider plan" for peace, resulting in a two-state solution and "lasting security for Palestinians and Israelis".

Now, he has flipped that on its head, using Palestinian state recognition as a threat to try to get Israel to halt its war in Gaza.

Sir Keir's announcement comes less than a week after French President Emmanuel Macron said France will also recognise a Palestinian state in September, making it the first G7 nation to do so.

Ireland, Spain and Norway all officially recognised a Palestinian state last year.

Israel rejects UK move

Israel's foreign ministry said it "rejects the statement" by Sir Keir and accused him of pandering to his MPs and the French.

It said: "The shift in the British government's position at this time, following the French move and internal political pressures, constitutes a reward for Hamas and harms efforts to achieve a ceasefire in Gaza and a framework for the release of hostages."

Recognition on condition of peace negotiations

Britain, under the Conservatives and Sir Keir's Labour Party, has long maintained that recognising Palestine as a state must be on condition of direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

However, more than 200 MPs - over half of them Labour - including Labour chair of the Commons foreign affairs committee Emily Thornberry, last week called on Sir Keir to immediately recognise a Palestinian state.

The prime minister had repeatedly indicated he would not budge on the issue, saying he "very strongly" believes the only long-term solution to the Israel-Gaza conflict is a two-state solution.


Other Labour ministers had said recognising Palestine as a state would undermine Britain's position as an impartial broker in the war.

Ministers have previously said they were committed to recognising a Palestinian state but would only do so "at a time that is most conducive to the peace process".

Just before last summer's election, Sir Keir said recognising Palestine as a state could jeopardise the UK's relationship with the US, although it remained on Labour's manifesto.

The US, under Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Mr Trump, have maintained a veto policy when it comes to recognising a Palestinian state at the UN Security Council.

Mr Trump, speaking from Air Force One en route from Scotland to the US, said he and Sir Keir "never did discuss" his plan to recognise a Palestinian state unless Israel takes steps to improve life for people in Gaza.


Sir Keir also revealed on Tuesday that UK aid had been airdropped into Gaza on Tuesday, and also by land.

But he said at least 500 aid trucks need to enter Gaza every day to end the starvation, with 27% of young children and pregnant women malnourished.


The PM said: "Ultimately, the only way to bring this humanitarian crisis to an end is through a long-term settlement.

"So, we are supporting the US, Egyptian and Qatari efforts to secure a vital ceasefire.

"That ceasefire must be sustainable and it must lead to a wider peace plan, which we are developing with our international partners.

"This plan will deliver security and proper governance in Gaza and pave the way for negotiations on a two-state solution.

"Our goal remains a safe and secure Israel, alongside a viable and sovereign Palestinian state. But right now - that goal is under pressure like never before.

"I've always said we will recognise a Palestinian state as a contribution to a proper peace process, at the moment of maximum impact for the Two State Solution.

"With that solution now under threat, this is the moment to act.

"So today - as part of this process towards peace I can confirm the UK will recognise the state of Palestine by the United Nations General Assembly in September unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, agree to a ceasefire and commit to a long-term, sustainable peace, reviving the prospect of a two state solution."
 
Justice campaigner warns of ‘very real risk’ to grooming gang victims amid online safety row: 'It's unworkable':

https://www.gbnews.com/news/online-safety-row-justice-campaigner-warning-risk-grooming-gang-victims
https://archive.ph/wip/QNpHE
It's all a bit depressing that there really are plenty of people who are against this sort of thing and have good arguments against it but are so heavily silenced nobody really hears them. It means that when foreigners (especially Americans) hear about the government finding yet another way to be increasingly tyrannical they just start screeching and bellowing about how we deserve to suffer, we voted for it, we are all braindead cuckolds sleepwalking into slavery, etc.

I know I shouldn't care about what johnny foreigner babbles on about but it's still all so tiresome.
 
Actually, if you do get a back payment from PIP they can not take that off you. Just like if you are awarded PIP that then makes you eligible for SDP (Severe Disability Premium) if you are already on ESA, which you probably will be. I know someone that got nearly 15K back dated in PIP and therefore was eligible for over 10K back payment of SDP on top of his ESA. nearly 25K. And he didn't have to pay back a penny!

Once more, google 'Temporary Disregard' - in fact for back payments over 5K there is a permanent disregard. Very often a temporary disregard will run for either 6 months or 12 months and then, yes, you do need to get rid of that money by then or you will be penalised.
Temporary Disregard means you still have to spend the money within a year. Can you spend 15k (plus your new income) in a year without intentionally throwing it away? That's what I mean by fearing they will lose their benefits if they don't spend it. They've been given huge sums of money to them and they either buy a car or a bunch of useless electronic crap.

As you said 6k before they start docking money. It's not enough to live off of if you lose your benefits but you're punished for having more. I only know what they tell me and I'm only helping fill out the forms as a friend not an expert. If they tell me they can't have over 16k and they have more and they're worried about it, I assume there's a reason.

The way Starmer is targeting the disabled I can see temporary disregard being done away with.
 
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Oh dear, Starmer going against Israel and his Mossad handlers...

This ain't gonna end well.
Yeah, see how fast the government can react when it's foreign brown people in need rather than Big Baz in the norf. Recall ministers from holiday, manage to find a spare £40 mil for Gaza aid, have meetings with world leaders, anything to help sub 50 IQ sandniggers thousands of miles away.

I hope Trump threatens to cancel the UK and EU trade deals in retaliation, just to test who Keir cares more about. Lose the deal for the sake of some gay virtue signalling with the French, or shut the fuck up and do something about the problems at home.
 
By the way, the cut off point for getting Universal Credit is 16K and they take assets in to consideration as well.

But any amount over 6K will mean you get a certain proportional amount deducted on top, up to all the way of the 16K cut off point where you will just get nothing at all.

So you can't even have over 6K in the bank without it hurting you. I realise we can't give benefits to people with big savings in the bank. But fuck me, 6K is just safety net money. It's money for private health care when the NHS fails you. It's barely a new fridge, washing machine etc. etc. kind of thing. All the while, the stinking rich with their imaginary wealth which is really just trailing 0's on a bank account statement get to live a life of luxury, plus they get to have a safety net that the poor just don't have. It's wrong.
It's really good at trapping people too. 6k could very easily be what someone needs for a deposit and moving expenses so average family of 4 or whatever on hard times who even wants to downsize and rent a smaller place can't without the entirely unrealistic expectation of agreeing to rent a new place and giving notice to move out of the old place with the deposit money to seal the deal coming from the old landlord who will probably attempt to pocket it and leave them homeless.
 
I still would. I’d wear three condoms and bathe in disinfectant afterwards, but I still would.
STFU
The government are looking into restricting/banning VPNs now after ProtonVPN reported a 1,800% surge in UK registrations for VPN services after the Online Safety Act came into force. NordVPN reported a 1000% surge in UK registrations.

Link / Archive

This will absolutely work and will not fail utterly. Business rely entirely on VPNs for security.
No, you will NOT have a free internet.
No, you can NOT have a VPN.
No, you can NOT say mean words online.
You WILL be surveilled.
And you WILL be happy.
 
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