UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Der Boomerwaffen calls for revolution.

 

[Anti Lolicon Bomb]

My penis.

Wait, I thought you was a strong black woman?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Wait, I thought you was a strong black woman?

It's all explained right here.

 

[East_Clintwood]

I must look up Null's twitter at some point as I need to favourite it as a backup info source.

https://x.com/xjosh

The farms has it's own dedicated account where he usually posts updates: https://x.com/KiwiFarmsDotNet

Also there's https://tg.josh.rs/ which lets you view updates posted to Telegram without an account, useful for if/when Null gets nuked from Twitter again.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Emergency alert warning issued amid fears alarm being sent to 87 million phones to put some Britons at risk:

Mobile phones will vibrate and emit a loud siren sound for approximately 10 seconds - even if they are set to silent mode - with a message also appearing on phone screens.

It makes one wonder, "If they can do this, and you can't turn it off, what else can they do?"

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I am enjoying the essex boat wogs been sent to 5 star accomodation in canary wharf and the people there protesting. Sorry, NIMBY, you get what you deserve. I hope KHAAAAAAN!! doubles-down and jams the boatmalians into every high-class, high-end, posh hotel in the snobbiest of leafiest suburbs in London.
Something might get done then.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Also there's https://tg.josh.rs/ which lets you view updates posted to Telegram without an account, useful for if/when Null gets nuked from Twitter again.

Cheers for all of those.

Mostly wanted to be sure I checked all sources for why it was down. The tech thread suggests it was only over Tor that it had an issue, people browsing the clearnet were fine so it didn't land on his radar.

 

[Clem Fandango]

my moms a good egg, but it still did amuse me.

I was talking to my mum the other day (note to the rest of you bastards: give your mum a call). She's literally the nicest, most Christian person you've ever met. Even she had a story where she was in some waiting room and she said "There were six of us, and I was the only white person there". She sounded scared.

Later in the conversation she said "I don't want to sound racist, but..."

I interrupted and said you go right ahead, I won't mind at all.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

I hope KHAAAAAAN!! doubles-down and jams the boatmalians into every high-class, high-end, posh hotel in the snobbiest of leafiest suburbs in London.
Something might get done then.

I mean half of the houses in London are owned by those people anyway. Fuck the hotels shove them in Price Al Shabialiah Hajna the third's 5th fucking holiday home he bought with that oil tycoon money. Already unoccupied and ready for people to move in, squatters rights and all that. I mean if they're not using the house then the poor little refugees who need a home and the poor little children oh won't you let them stay in the nice house.

 

[Amin Yasister]

Wait, I thought you was a strong black woman?

A woman can have a penis, transphobe!

 

[Tims]

You think KiwiFarms is a racist website then you are fucking retarded.

Fuck off kike, it's back to bug hive 9 for you.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

It makes one wonder, "If they can do this, and you can't turn it off, what else can they do?"

You can turn it off in your phone settings which people seem to always forget. But I get what you mean, a personal phone is every surveillance state's wet dream.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

What is everyone's weapon for defense going to be? I am thinking metal bat and for indoors, crossbow or mechanical bow if I am feeling extra spicy.

I have a sword, I'm a good shot with a bow and I know how to ride a horse so I think I'm fine should it kick off..in minecraft of course

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

You can turn it off in your phone settings which people seem to always forget. But I get what you mean, a personal phone is every surveillance state's wet dream.

I wonder if they can circumvent the 'turn off' ability. I do think that sometimes those options do nothing other than give the user peace of mind,

Apparently there are 87 million active devices in the UK. That's a lot of burner phones for a population of 68 million people (according to 2023 data).

 

[Otterly]

They probably lobbied for this to happen. Won't the OSA make it illegal to even use a VPN?

They can’t, not directly. Everyone who works remotely for major companies has to use one when not in the office for example.
It’s not a simple thing to just ban VPNs because they have a genuine business need. I’m sure they will try indirect methods, but just banning them isn’t happening.
One thing to remember, actually two things, that are comforting are this;
1. The government is utterly incompetent and their incompetence with anything IT is even worse than their incompetence with major infrastructure projects. I give you track and trace, and electronic health records, and Hs2 as examples.
2. The rich and powerful always want it to not apply to them, which means loopholes. Now if a loophole is cash or status based, you and I are screwed. The power plays being in the garret club? Shit out of luck. But if the loopholes are technological, as they will have to be for a lot if the dystopian stuff, then you’re playing on a completely different field and they can be exploited by any pleb with the nous to do so. And there’s always a loophole. Just look at the offshore tax avoidance (I’m sorry, offshore tax planning…)
Resources are limited. The government isn’t targeting anyone they deem low threat unless they feel that picking them off delivers a bang for the buck pour encourager les Autres.
Yes GCHQ are whizzes and yes if they wanted to they could have all our names in a jiffy and maybe they already do, but to pull us all in for nothing at all exposes their hand and delivers little. Resources who are genuinely smart are even more limited. There’s some very smart guys and gals at GCHQ, but they’re swimming in the same incompetent morass of idiots that everyone else is these days.
There is always systemic incompetence, corruption and loopholery.
Are they still insisting we have only 68 million? ‘lol.’

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

That's a lot of burner phones for a population of 68 million people (according to 2023 data).

I have three phones myself, one for personal use, one for work and one for international usage. I can see work phones bringing the number up massively since everyone in my line of work is usually running two or three phones.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

It’s not a simple thing to just ban VPNs because they have a genuine business need. I’m sure they will try indirect methods, but just banning them isn’t happening.

The entirety of the EU have been campaigning to ban any form of encryption under the same bullshit facade of 'for the kids' for a fair few years now. I forget the exact details but wasn't the owner of telegram arrested because he refused to decrypt something for the French police even though he was literally unable to? The government would love to ban vpns and every other encryption or proxy or just general privacy measure and they probably will at some point looking at the current rate.

They might serve a genuine business need, but is the encryption part of that need? Not really. You could just use a proxy without any sort of encryption and that would work just as well for those sorts of jobs. That is what the government will argue. No one 'needs' encryption in the same way that no one 'needs' a gun. You only want your privacy because you're going to do a school shooting with it in a mosque you bigot. The government could easily push through a law requiring all isps to ban any vpn protocols and that would be that. Even if they have a genuine use has that ever stopped the government from trying to ban things? They don't give a shit about your work or career, that's incredibly obvious right now of all times.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

VPNs are not going away. Your data is being scraped and monitored though. That's the scandal going to break next.

 

[FedPostalService]

I have three phones myself, one for personal use, one for work and one for international usage. I can see work phones bringing the number up massively since everyone in my line of work is usually running two or three phones.

Same, I got my posh phone, my work phone, and my traveling abroad and don't care if it gets stolen phone.

EDIT: Plus a bunch of older phones in a drawer if I ever need a very cheap spare.

 

[Otterly]

You could just use a proxy without any sort of encryption and that would work just as well for those sorts of jobs. That is what the government will argue. No one 'needs' encryption in the same way that no one 'needs' a gun

Depends what you’re working with. Patient data would perhaps (?) require encryption. I know for a fact certain things I work with do, I’m not sure about all.

VPNs are not going away. Your data is being scraped and monitored though. That's the scandal going to break next.

I’d be amazed if it wasn’t tbh

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

It's all explained right here.

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