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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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then you lose it however you can, and along the way hopefully sort out your relationship with food and by the time your weight is ok you need to have something long term you can stick to.
Thank you! Yeah, bombed the weight off so I could actually start walking properly. Took a four month break to let my body rest and mainly to see if I could maintain a diet. First month I gained a bit of weight as I was making up for my hunger, but I'm four months in and have been stablise that long so I'm onto the diet again for the second phase of the weight loss.

I cannot stress how bad alcohol is. It doesn't just have insane amounts of calories (one of the most dense way of consuming calories), but you'll start drinking and then realise you've only had X/Y for dinner and then you'll order a takeaway. Not only are you consuming over 1k in alcohol calories, you're then eating a takeaway which is at least 1,500 calories on a good day.

You can lose weight eating macdonalds
Black coffee, sausage and egg McMuffin and a hash brown. About 550 calories and I used to have that as my treat during the diet. Their breakfast menu is the only good thing about McDonalds, the lunch menu is mostly awful
 
Anyone who can't do a calorie deficit diet is a retarded fat faggot.
No shit, but the fact is the vast, vast majority of weight loss attempts fail.
"But I managed it", good. But for everyone else I'd rather they take a diabetes drug so they don't take up two seats on the plane and smell like shit.

As is always the case, a conversation with former fatties devolves into them talking about McDonalds and how "it's good, actually". :roll:
 
I cannot stress how bad alcohol is. It doesn't just have insane amounts of calories (one of the most dense way of consuming calories), but you'll start drinking and then realise you've only had X/Y for dinner and then you'll order a takeaway. Not only are you consuming over 1k in alcohol calories, you're then eating a takeaway which is at least 1,500 calories on a good day.
Drinks are a major problem with weight gain IMO. They're easy calories and it's difficult to find anything healthy on the go that isn't just water. Everything is fizzy or sugar loaded.
 
I don't know if this would work for everyone but I have found that I'm very fucking suggestible. So if I lose my motivation to eat well and exercise as much as I generally like to, I listen to lots of health and fitness podcasts and within a few days I'm back on the 'yeah - I value my health and athleticism' train.
 
As is always the case, a conversation with former fatties devolves into them talking about McDonalds and how "it's good, actually". :roll:
How did the conversation devolve? I responded to a particular part of a response about a single menu item at single fast food place that I visit maybe once every month because the previous reply mentioned McDonalds

"But I managed it", good. But for everyone else I'd rather they take a diabetes drug so they don't take up two seats on the plane and smell like shit.
"a diabetes drug". Aka for people with diabetes, not fat lazy retards. Actual diabetics have struggled to get access to these drugs because of lazy fatties, we should not be encouraging taking this shit as it only solves your hunger, it doesn't solve your bad choices in terms of diet.
 
As is always the case, a conversation with former fatties devolves into them talking about McDonalds and how "it's good, actually".
I kinda like mcdonalds tbf. It fills that same need that eating playdough does. Sometimes you just want to consume tasteless textureless chemical goop. Life's more fun when you rp as deep sea thermal vent chemophilic bacteria once every so often.
 
I don't know if this would work for everyone but I have found that I'm very fucking suggestible. So if I lose my motivation to eat well and exercise as much as I generally like to, I listen to lots of health and fitness podcasts and within a few days I'm back on the 'yeah - I value my health and athleticism' train.
Watching My 600 life is a good way to inspire you to diet.
 
No shit, but the fact is the vast, vast majority of weight loss attempts fail.
"But I managed it", good. But for everyone else I'd rather they take a diabetes drug so they don't take up two seats on the plane and smell like shit.

As is always the case, a conversation with former fatties devolves into them talking about McDonalds and how "it's good, actually". :roll:
Fat people shouldn't be allowed to fly. They are a danger to others. They are a total hazard if there's an incident on the runway an emergency exit is needed, they stink, they take now space than they're entitled to and they fuck with the weight distribution.

Ban fat people from doing shit and they'll sort their shit out.

Make shame great again.
 
Watching My 600 life is a good way to inspire you to diet.
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Dr Now berating retarded fatties in his funny accent never gets old.

You know what, I changed my mind. Maybe Ozempic is bad, but that's okay. My 600lb Life will pivot to be hour long episodes of Dr Now saying to crying fatties in his broken English "I'm sorry but you-a take the ozempic that wasn't made for you and now-a your brain is a-full of the tumours and is all your fault so stop crying in my hoss-pit-all".
 
I tried not to overthink it. I set a max number of calories I was allowed to eat per day (1200). It didn't restrict what I could eat and drink, and it naturally lead to me eating less food and losing weight. Eating less eventually made it so I was was satisfied with less, and eventually the appetite I got was the appetite I imagined most slim people have. I combined with intermittent fasting (8AM to 3PM) at a later date and it usually meant I had two meals a day, which I eventually settled as "light" and "heavy" meals. If I had a light breakfast I could have a heavy tea and vice versa. I ballparked on occasion, I know 2 slices of brown bread isn't exactly a hundred cal each but I still rounded up to the nearest whole number, and I did that with everything. 2 toasts with butter would be 300 calories, meaning my limit for the rest of the day was 900, which usually made up the bulk of tea. I also didn't have any snacks or sweets, but I did keep a single vice which was fizzy drinks. Pepsi Max, Irn Bru Extra, Doctor Pepper Zero, and so on. It might have slowed my weight gain, and some say it just mitigates the potential weight loss of fasting, but I tried sticking to just water and it made me miserable.

I have family who tried specific diets but they never looked into them past what they said on the surface, then gave them up when they weren't losing it as fast as they thought.

For example, for my aunt, Atkins became "I can eat as much meat as I want" (no consideration for calories). Other aunt, you can eat as much as you want so long as one of those things had the "Weight Watchers" branding on them (R.I.P Weight Watchers). For my cousin, intermittent fasting became, "I can eat anything I want between 2 to 6" (eats to daily recommended calories anyway) and that example can pretty much be used for all of them. Also they just ignored beer outright when it came to trying to lose weight, so they'd pile on 4 to 8 cans of Galahad and wonder why they weren't losing anything. People might want to lose weight, but they also want to remain comfortable, so they'll eat and drink howe. Also just flagrantly misunderstanding what a diet is asking of you is another thing, so a simpler premise is probably better for most people.

Whilst what I did was basically calorie counting, people also make it unnecessarily harder for themselves by abiding to exact counts, which they then find too hard and give up. They also making sure they do eat to their limit, whereas if you're under and don't feel hungry – good. Don't make an obligation out of eating. Every little unconsumed calorie helps you in the long run.

The perceived limit of freedom is the hardest part of people who go onto a diet find themselves reckoning with. If you don't limit the food and drink, but limit indirectly how much of it they can consume, that's probably better? That's just going off of my experience. I have heard people both in and outside of my family say, "It's not good for you not eating a lot." This often justifies not controlling the amount of food they take in.
 
@>IMPLYING this is the problem with some people and limits. I noticed this when watching how alcohol and pregnancy work for some women. They drink right up to that limit because it’s a government set limit and they think it’s safe. Like it’s an allocation, not an upper bound. Then they go over it because they can’t visualise a unit either. It’s one reason I do support the advice to be zero booze when pregnant.
It’s much better to teach people how to cook, basic nutrition, and how to eat. Like the Japanese with their ‘eat until you’re 80% full’ thing.
Kids should leave school able to whip up a weeks worth of basic nutritious food. Nothing fancy or expensive, how to make a soup, a stew, a salad, bake bread, and a couple of meat and three veg and a carb kind of dishes. Teach them to do it within a budget, shop for it, and how to recombine bits of it (make mince and tomato/veg sauce and have it one night with pasta and then make chili from it or whatever.) they should understand nutrition.
Remember how we had all those informational and terrifying films about not playing on railway lines or building sites? they need that for fatness . Maybe we need to send them to diabetes wound care units for an afternoon.
 
a magnetic for the crazies would have been useful once, but anyone who was sensible left when Corbyn was in charge. All it has left are crazies and opportunists who were waiting for him to fall.
The whites in the party are generally the crazies, the lefty-liberal women and soyboy virtue signallers. Outside of those, the Muslims are kicking out those who are too vocal on Palestine and Sharia ideology.

Jezbollah is attracting those looneys that make the Labour party look bad. Don't be fooled into thinking the Labour party is that of the working class anymore, or even the party of the Tory-lite Blairites. It is a party for non-whites, which is how Starmer's Labour won the election.

The Conservatives are on a similar track, with Reform their loony-magnet, the difference between them and Labour is how it always has been; Financial, not ideological.
 
Ngl I at my highest was 320lbs now down to 250 through deficit. I have the odd off weekend because my goal is for the end of next year. Currently, it goes from about 1200 to 1600. I do the following;
Breakfast - Mint overnight oats 300 calories
Lunch - 2 eggs, either scrambled or poached, on 2 pieces of brown bread. I freeze my bread to resist temptation
Dinner - Chicken breast, broccoli, carrots, and green beans with 200g of mashed potato as my carb.

Lost a lot over 3 months, it's depressing sometimes, its quite frugal
 
Nonce alarm in a minute If your phone goes of, you know why.
I really love how tech companies and the government love to fucking consent rape people it's really cool isn't it? I love how they just decide that yea I will play a random air raid siren through your phone for some reason. What the fuck is the point in an emergency alert in this country? Yea might have a crazed gunman on the loose like we have about once in the entire millennia so far. Even if we did let's be honest we know what he will be like and we know that the government isn't going to want to bring attention to that. Same for missing kids. Even if they did want me to call the police if I saw some ape with a white kid I'd probably do that anyway. Closest thing to a natural disaster in this country is an hgv driving by shaking the ground or maybe a blocked toilet larping as a tsunami. That's about it. I just love how despite being my phone that I own other people can just fucking decide that no actually it's going to make random noises fuck you. The only alarm I want or need is my dog. The only time my phone should ever make noise without me asking is if my family sent me a text and no other time. At least you can turn that shit off in the notifications tab now.

Also easiest way to lose weight is just don't eat and mind fuck yourself into enjoying that stomach pain. Just don't eat breakfast unless you have shit to do that day.
 
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