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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Since they let the Muslim "migrants" get away with rape, if a group of Muslim men rape them as they are jogging, will they let them go?
They'd have to. Otherwise, if they ran an operation like this in any place where muslims exist in more than single digits, they'd have to follow with a fleet of converted lutons to hold everyone they arrested.
 
ook, if I walk around with a wad of $100s hanging out of my shorts, and someone snatches them off of me, I got robbed. It's not my fault. The only person responsible for theft is the thief.

Still there's reasonable precautions I can take to make said theft less likely.
You are responsible as much as the thief is. If you were pick pocketed you couldn't have done much to prevent that. Flashing your money in a way that's easy to grab makes you responsible for tempting the theft through stupidity. You should assume the world has bad people and use reasonable precautions to avoid being a victim. If you don't take those precautions then you deserve what you get.

I'm going to cross the road. Do I..

A. Assume the traffic will stop for me because I'm crossing.
B. Look both ways and wait until it's safe?

Apply that logic to all situations. If you know there are dangers in the world, you should know you have to protect yourself from them and failing to do so makes you a willing victim. If you assume the world will be nice to you and bow to your desires then you will get hit by a car or mugged or raped. You can't prevent a drunk driver hitting you on the pavement but that doesn't mean you walk into the road blindly.
 
If you assume the world will be nice to you and bow to your desires then you will get hit by a car or mugged or raped. You can't prevent a drunk driver hitting you on the pavement but that doesn't mean you walk into the road blindly.
Reminds me of when a co-worker of mine was rambling about sexism and how it limits womens choices. She used the example of how I - me - could walk down a certain road known to be infested with hookers, pimps and violent drug addicts in our city, without being worried. Then said that she did just that, to avoid being limited by how society tries to victimise women. I was kind of in awe at the sheer schizophrenia needed to believe that I was just casually walking down into gangs of feral crackheads, and the same insanity needed in order to just that, to prove a point to...no-one?
 
Lol nope, magic words; Reasonable Escalation, just don't be a nigger, yes this is indeed asking too much most of the time.
If you get done in it is entirely your own fault for being a retarded, and I have no sympathy for you.
What amounts to reasonable and proportionate force is a question of fact finding and evidence. The Police and CPS have the ability to bring a prosecution regardless of whether what you did was reasonable, as they have discretion. Whether you are convicted by a jury is an entirely different question. As such, even if you are likely to be found not guilty you could still have years of life ruined awaiting trial.

Cops are useless, don't bother calling them, but please do tell whoever the most up-for-it looking staff member is.
And don't wait till they've gone out the door either, we don't mind the exercise, but 20 mins later when you're finally in the que and those joints are already being sold in the local flatroof is a bit too much of a head start for sammy-steals-steaks.
Don't just moan about it, be part of the solution; batter your local crackhead (legally) today!
This retarded and quite literally dangerous advice. We have seen that police do not care about reasonableness with the tube flasher case, you are advocating for people to potentially be raped by the legal system. If the system is set-up to ruin the lives of everyday heroes, you should be aware of that and avoid having your life ruined. If you want examples of how this type of thing can happen just go to your local Crown Court and find a self-defence case.
 
Reminds me of when a co-worker of mine was rambling about sexism and how it limits womens choices. She used the example of how I - me - could walk down a certain road known to be infested with hookers, pimps and violent drug addicts in our city, without being worried. Then said that she did just that, to avoid being limited by how society tries to victimise women. I was kind of in awe at the sheer schizophrenia needed to believe that I was just casually walking down into gangs of feral crackheads, and the same insanity needed in order to just that, to prove a point to...no-one?
Overdosing on feminism has made some women absolutely lose their fucking minds in an utter rejection of reality, to the point where they will happily stroll into packs of feral rapemonkeys just because that's what they think men do.
I don't think women understand that being a man, you're almost constantly on the lookout for people who wish to do you harm, especially when they don't share your values, culture or color. Meanwhile women will wear miniskirts and skimpy bras and then walk down dark nigger infested alleyways, and then say that you're victim blaming when you say "well why did you do that? Were you trying to get raped?"
 
Overdosing on feminism has made some women absolutely lose their fucking minds in an utter rejection of reality, to the point where they will happily stroll into packs of feral rapemonkeys just because that's what they think men do.
I don't think women understand that being a man, you're almost constantly on the lookout for people who wish to do you harm, especially when they don't share your values, culture or color. Meanwhile women will wear miniskirts and skimpy bras and then walk down dark nigger infested alleyways, and then say that you're victim blaming when you say "well why did you do that? Were you trying to get raped?"
In womens defence, my co-worker was actually insane. You could talk to her and tell she was a few cards short of the deck.
 
What amounts to reasonable and proportionate force is a question of fact finding and evidence. The Police and CPS have the ability to bring a prosecution regardless of whether what you did was reasonable, as they have discretion. Whether you are convicted by a jury is an entirely different question. As such, even if you are likely to be found not guilty you could still have years of life ruined awaiting trial.
It amounts 100% to whatever the plod on response decides to think, and what they "think" is 100% based on 14.88 IQ tick box bullshit, once you know the hoops to jump through it's a simple thing; a trick like any other.
This retarded and quite literally dangerous advice. We have seen that police do not care about reasonableness with the tube flasher case, you are advocating for people to potentially be raped by the legal system. If the system is set-up to ruin the lives of everyday heroes, you should be aware of that and avoid having your life ruined. If you want examples of how this type of thing can happen just go to your local Crown Court and find a self-defence case.
It's my lived experience mate, do you live in a shitty city or an actual place?
Coppers of course get their arses in gear when shit ends up in the Daily Mail comment sections, seeing to that not being the case is part of the whole not being a retarded thing, the way anarcho-tyranny works is it's only if they noootice you for whatever reason; and nobody notices it when the steak-swipers start limping believe me.
 
In womens defence, my co-worker was actually insane. You could talk to her and tell she was a few cards short of the deck.
That's fair, but it doesn't change that there are still a good number of women that genuinely think this way and typically aren't clinically insane.
Women just act completely fucking retarded when confronted with the possibility of stuff like this happening to them. For example, I sometimes ask a female relative of mine how she feels about guns, and she tends to flipflop between "I would like a gun if I were ever cornered by rape apes" and "BUT THE SCHOOL SHOOTANS!" so the conditioning is breaking somewhat, even there. But fuck man if the propaganda isn't effective.
Of course for every little girl raped by browns, that piece of "protect the children, don't arm yourself, pleb." propaganda becomes less valid.
 
Reminds me of when a co-worker of mine was rambling about sexism and how it limits womens choices. She used the example of how I - me - could walk down a certain road known to be infested with hookers, pimps and violent drug addicts in our city, without being worried. Then said that she did just that, to avoid being limited by how society tries to victimise women. I was kind of in awe at the sheer schizophrenia needed to believe that I was just casually walking down into gangs of feral crackheads, and the same insanity needed in order to just that, to prove a point to...no-one?
Funny thing is, at least in the US, men are far more likely to be victims of random street violence than women are.

Like remember when Rick Moranis was randomly beaned in the head by some random shithead? That sort of crime basically never happens to women. There's a certain level of callousness that the street trash of our cities are willing to impose on men but not women.

Years ago, I was walking home at night and I saw some black people walking on the sidewalk opposite me. Three men and a woman, carrying a pizza. I think "oh that sounds good, pizza would really hit the spot now". Because I'm retarded, I stop to ask them where they got it. The head negro was telling a story or some shit and he basically continues his story with "... and den I hit this nigga right in the face" and punches me in the jaw, knocking me to the ground. My glasses go flying and I'm patting around on the ground for them like a cliche nerd character from an 80s movie. "oh jeeze where are my glasses"

And the guy just kept walking. One smooth motion, punched me, didn't slow down.

I couldn't eat solid food for a week.

This sort of shit basically never happens to women.

Don't get me wrong, women get disproportionately victimized in other ways. But a lot of feminist marketing about what actually does or does not happen to women isn't really supported by the data.
 
Had a family member call me on the verge of tears because the ethnically enriched neighbours that the council have put in next to her keep setting off the fire alarm because they clearly can't operate a cooker. So now I have to worry about waking up to a call telling me that someone I care about was cremated alive while she slept.
 
The government responded to the petition
Eager to see how they'll defend themselves when they have to debate this is parliament. If no MP puts forward a no confidence vote it's either cowardice on their part, or they just want to see Labour continue to destroy itself and further radicalise people, which I can kind of understand from an accelerationist point of view.

We also need to see the debate for the Online Safety Act at some point as well; Labour's counter-arguments to the bill's opponents boiled down to said opponents being pedos, but we already know the government was a bit pissed off by how compliant a lot of websites and services were, which just ended up creating even more bad PR for the government and potentially fucking up any good will earned with the youth by lowering the voting age. They'll only be able to spew out platitudes and some Tories who probably voted in favour of the bill to begin with in 2023 will now be arguing why it's bad — total clown show.

Also:
>Mandate
>34% of the electorate
lmao
Out of ECHR.
There's a cheeky loophole that Blair put into law.
Human rights act 1998
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We'd need to repeal this act or else any proposed laws can be stymied by civil service or judges complaining about said acts not abiding by the ECHR.

We have too much bullshit that needs to either be overridden completely with 1 single, all-encompassing bill or repealed entirely so one faggy-replacement government can't just repeal the bill effectively negating the past 40-50 years of utterly shit legislation.

Here's a list. I'll only list UK acts since international ones can't be enforced anyway and I feel like we're a decade out from people ignoring that shit.

Constitutional Reform and Governance Act 2010 (CRAG) - this gives a shit load of power to the civil service, and says that they are not required "to carry out their duties with objectivity or impartiality" according to their code of conduct, hence the number of wannabe activists. It also makes all treaties the UK signs onto binding and if we seek to withdraw, we must wait 21 days for parliament/ministers to object, so if we wanted to leave the ECHR, we'd first have to wait 21 days before doing so.

Human Rights Act 1998 - Essentially gives the provisions and laws of the ECHR priority over our own. Prevents us from actively blocking the boat migrants from setting foot on our soil or forcing them back out to sea. Whilst parliament can pass and vote on laws that don't adhere to it, public bodies (Civil service, judiciaries - yes, including the supreme court) are required to abide by the ECHR.

Merchant Shipping Act 1995 - Obliges the recovery and return of property left out at sea (boats migrants used to cross to begin with) and also obliges people to help migrant boats since not doing so would be a violation of the requirement to render assistance.

Immigration Act 1971 - Nobody can be detained indefinitely, people can only be deported to where they are permitted and it is safe to do so, and "refugees" (provable or otherwise) cannot be penalised for illegal entry.

Asylum and Immigration (Treatment of Claimants, etc.) Act 2004 - Combined the formerly separate immigrant and asylum tribunals into a single body, and allows lower courts to act independently in a sense in whether and immigrant is a legit arrival or an asylum seeker - with the ECHR in mind, and the UN's laws on statelessness, you can see how a small-time judge might just let someone stay indefinitely due to a lax interpretation of the law or some activist bullshit. The 2004 Act locks in a process that must be followed once someone arrives and claims asylum. It's like that scene in Pirates of the Caribbean, where Elizabeth goes, "Parlay!" and the pirates are obliged to take her to the captain - same principle.

Immigration Rules Part 11 -
327EA. Under this Part, a claim for humanitarian protection is a request by a person for international protection due to a claim that if they are removed from or required to leave the UK, they would face a real risk of suffering serious harm (as defined in paragraph 339CA) in their country of origin, and they are unable, or owing to such risk, unwilling to avail themselves of the protection of that country.

327EB. A claim for humanitarian protection must meet the requirements of paragraphs 327AB(i) to (iv) otherwise it will not be recorded as a valid claim for humanitarian protection.

327EC. If someone makes a claim for humanitarian protection, they will be deemed to be an asylum applicant and to have made an application for asylum for the purposes of these Rules. The claim will be recorded, subject to meeting the requirements of Rule 327AB(i) to (iv), as an application for asylum and will be assessed under paragraph 334 for refugee status in the first instance. If the application for refugee status is refused, then the Secretary of State will go on to consider the claim as a claim for humanitarian protection.
329. For so long as an asylum applicant cannot be removed from or required to leave the UK because section 77 of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 applies, any dependants who meet the definition under paragraph 349 must also not be removed from or required to leave the UK.

Asylum and Immigration Appeals Act 1993 -
“Nothing in the immigration rules shall lay down any practice which would be contrary to the United Kingdom’s obligations under the [1951 Refugee] Convention.”
How this doesn't "bind" a future parliament, I don't get, but just because it says so on paper doesn't mean it can't be un-done. So much bullshit is just optics poison politically, because you know the opposition will just go: "They're abolishing human rights?!?"
What also sucks about this act is even if we leave the ECHR and repeal the 1998 act, this act will still be in place and will have to be repealed to. It also prevents the deportation of people to "unsafe 3rd countries" and similarly prevents the removal of people when their asylum claim is still pending.

Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 - Created the not-so-known about National Asylum Support Service (NASS), which houses asylum seekers whilst processing their claims, and is effectively why the asylum hotels are a thing because it puts the onus of care on the government to house them all. It also further reinforces that you can't deport or sent asylum seekers away whilst their claim is being processed (I think this is why just abolishing the system entirely has come up a lot now since this is the lynchpin enabling all the illegals to stay here). It also extends detention powers (good) but they still have to abide by prior stated law (no indefinite detention). You also can't claim asylum from abroad (good) but it also incentivises the boat crossings (bad).

This to me was Labour's equivalent of the Rwanda scheme, an attempt to placate the anti-immigrant crowd whilst actually being toothless as a result of prior laws.

Equality Act 2010 - This law prevents public bodies from discriminating whatsoever, thus preventing them from not providing aid or service to non-Brits or even non-citizens, so it requires the UK government to render aid and provide benefits to those coming in. It also prevents and allows the judiciary to strike down proposed bills or laws that target specific groups of people in a way perceived as being discriminatory. Labour passed this in their going-out year as what I can only guess is a middle finger to people electing the Tories on the hope they'd reduce immigration. This law prevents any amendments or acts being passed which specifically target a particular group of people too, so no "anti-Paki bill" — it could also potentially fuck over any proposed non-stun slaughter act since it could be viewed as discriminatory against Jews and Muslims.

Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 - Another law, another barrier to make expulsion harder. Further muddied the appeals process by introducing tribunals and making it harder to assess a country as being "safe" for deportation to. Granted you a 2nd opportunity to appeal I.E. "denied asylum - 1st appeal - removal date set - 2nd appeal - and during this appeal time they are granted their usual accommodation and rights. Also grants the power for judges to give citizenship if the asylum seeker is stateless.

NHS Act 2006 - Allows you to register with a GP without any immigration checks and makes it so doctors have a legal duty to provide care regardless of immigration status. Whilst it also introduces charging overseas visitors, the NHS Regulations 2015 makes asylum seekers and certain migrants exempt.

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012 - Cut legal aid for illegal immigrants and makes it so they have to represent themselves, but makes asylum exempt - again, incentivising people to claim asylum and thus being waited on hand on foot for literal years. Again, the government cannot refuse asylum claims at all.

UK Borders Act 2007 - Section 32 of this law makes it so any foreign criminal in the UK can be automatically deported... unless it violates the ECHR (Article 8: Right to family life I.E. can't be deported if their family is here womp womp) or refugee convention. Further mandates the required process I.E. collection of biometric data and some such. This means if you're 1 of the 50k boat crossers who arrived here, you have to wait to have your biometric data collected before they can even start the process of your asylum claim.

I need to run for parliament or something someone need to autistically cut all this shit out of being or override it all. Our civil service will hindrance us at very opportunity so long as they cite any of this shit. And any time one of these imports commits a crime, the deck is so stacked in their favour to prevent their deportation, that any time they are sentences for a crime it's bittersweet at best because you just know they're probably going to be remaining here regardless. The only consolation here is that despite the wording of some of this shit, there's no functional mechanism in place to prevent us repealing all of it.

A relatively easy pair of things we can do override a lot of of these:
1. Abolish the asylum system (repealing a shit ton of laws and pulling out of various treaties) or put into law that the UK no longer provides a right for asylum (the easiest to do IMO).
2. Repeal CRAG (2010)

1 would make it so there's no such thing as an asylum seeker, just legal and illegal immigrants, and 2 would make it so we can withdraw from treaties and prevent parliament effectively being under the thumb of the civil service who is acting on the behalf of foreign institutions and law.
 
I couldn't watch that, he eats like an absolute spastic, and he's wearing his hat indoors.

If his parents didn't want to raise him properly then his mum should have had an abortion. It's free at point of use, there's no excuse for not.
He's obviously wearing the hat indoors because he's ashamed of being seen as bald, not knowing that wearing the hat only exacerbates the issue by letting literally everyone know that you are ashamed of your lack of hair.
 
>34% of the electorate
34% of the people that actually voted in a historically-low turnout where his party received less vote percentage than it did in 2019 when it got the worst result it had ever had.

You would've thought that there's some sense in government or the Labour Party in general to actually try and do a good job this time, y'know, since it's the last time they will ever get a sniff of power.
 
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