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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Made In Wales said:
Arresting Paki's is a big 'Neddy no no'.

If they do this, Palestine Action and co. will have a field day.

If anything, more Whites will be arrested because of 'reasons'.
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They're going to quell the chance of a riot. The pakis who chinned those coppers in the airport will be sentenced 'harshly'. They're the ones that everyone is looking at.
 
The Crack Spiders Bitch said:
It's not broken - it's designed that way.

They know that the "students" paying for these university degrees are only doing this to get residency visas.
They're okay with this because they know that they're getting a slave class out of it, that increases the property prices, and needs to buy things like clothes, food, or home appliances.
They're fine with having these brown slaves come and be extra taxpayers.
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It's not even as much of an evil plan as this; The root of the evil here is money :gold:

It wasn't designed at all it just ended up that way via pure incompetence, the educations sector was made into a business that pursues profits, at the behest of end of century end of history bollocks (THANK YOU TONY BLAIR), and got corpo-fucked like every other sector and entirely at the whim of le markets.
Case in point: the ongoing debacle over the ridiculously over paid vice-chancellors (equivalent to CEO), it's the same old merchant greed just with a schoolhouse coat of paint. There is absolutely no practical difference between jeet visas for coooding and jeet visas for pretending to learn how to cooode, it is all the same system.
>IMPLYING said:
I'd personally opt for a moratorium on handing out any new visas for 5 to 20 years until we've been sorted out. Immigrants were basically a crutch anyway to not properly address the issues that arose following the contraction of our economy in the 80s.
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Yep. End all finically motivated visas, it's all cost cutting bollocks for the purpose of wage suppression anyway, there are no problems with the number of people; merely the "quality" of people, the bloated and distorted state of the economy is a reflection of this, it's intentionally filled with shit (people).
 
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Kofi Drinka said:
Letists always blame money and say it's about capitalism. But there's no money in pakis. You lose money having to deal with them and their leeching.
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Nothing wrong with capitalism (true capitalism has never been tried btw), the problem is the degenerated system we're saddled with, pakis may well produce nothing and take everything but they're great for making fake line go up, which our retarded system sees as a good thing.
 
Meanwhile the brothers grin trial continues. New footage as well if anyone wants to grab a local copy.

CCTV footage of the alleged assault of three police officers at Manchester Airport has been played to jurors.

Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, 20, and his brother, Muhammad Amaad, 26, are said to have struck out after police were called to an incident at the Starbucks cafe in Terminal 2 arrivals on 23 July last year.

Mr Amaaz is said to have headbutted a customer before four police officers approached the defendants at the pay station in the terminal's car park.

A jury at Liverpool Crown Court watched airport camera footage from opposite angles which captured what prosecutors say was a "high level of violence" towards the officers.


Mr Amaaz is alleged to have assaulted PC Marsden and PC Ward, causing them actual bodily harm, and to have assaulted PC Cook, and the earlier assault of a member of the public, Abdulkareem Ismaeil, at Starbucks.

Mr Amaad is alleged to have assaulted PC Marsden, causing actual bodily harm.

Both men, from Rochdale, Greater Manchester, deny the allegations.


PC Zachary Marsden and PC Ellie Cook were both armed, while PC Lydia Ward was unarmed as they approached the defendants in the car park.

The prosecution says Mr Amaaz resisted as police tried to move him away from the payment machine to arrest him, and then his brother intervened.

Junior counsel Adam Birkby said Mr Amaaz threw 10 punches, including a punch to the face of PC Ward that knocked her to the floor, and that Mr Amaad aimed six punches at firearms officer PC Marsden.

Mr Amaaz is also said to have kicked PC Marsden and twice struck firearms officer PC Cook with his elbow.

He is said to have punched PC Marsden from behind and then had hold of him before PC Cook discharged her Taser device.

Mr Amaaz had his arm around PC Marsden's neck as both fell to the floor, Mr Birkby said, before the officer got to his feet.

Mr Birkby said: "Mr Amaaz, while prone, lifts his head towards the officers. PC Marsden kicks Mr Amaaz around the head area.

"PC Marsden stamps his foot towards the crown of Mr Amaaz's head area but doesn't appear to connect with Mr Amaaz."


Giving evidence, PC Marsden told the court he approached the paystation with the intention of taking "immediate control" and escorting the suspect from the crowd and to arrest him outside where he would have radio signal.

He said: "I wanted to prevent his escape or any opportunity to escape, but also to give me control of someone who had allegedly been violent towards a member of the public."

He said he placed his hands on Mr Amaaz's left arm, but said he was "met with immediate resistance" and that he felt the suspect "clench his fists".

PC Marsden said: "I recall leaning in and saying to him words along the lines of, 'come on mate, we are not doing that here'."

He said he did not feel it was necessary to tell the suspect he was a police officer because he was wearing full uniform with a cap.

PC Marsden said he realised a change in plan was needed so decided to attempt to handcuff Mr Amaaz, the man wearing the light blue tracksuit in the footage.

He said he struggled to get Mr Amaaz's hands behind his back, so tried to get control of his head by pushing his body forwards.

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PC Marsden told the court: "The information I had was that he used his head as a weapon. I was in close proximity and I didn't want to be headbutted."

The officer said he then felt an "immense weight of pressure" to his right side and felt his Glock 17 semi-automatic pistol move across his leg and around his body.

PC Marsden said: "My initial fear is that someone is trying to get my gun. If someone gained my firearm it would pose an immediate lethal threat to anyone in the vicinity.

"The risk of my firearm being taken from me did not stop until we gained control.

"There was more than one person involved here - the aggressor I was trying to arrest and possibly an accomplice who was a much bigger physical build than me and much taller."

He told prosecutor Paul Greaney KC he started to receive "blows from all directions" from the second man.

Mr Greaney asked: "What level of force was being used?"

PC Marsden replied: "I can confidently say they were the hardest I have ever felt in my life."

He said his glasses were knocked off his face and without them he could only see at arm's length.

He said he was unaware where his two colleagues were during the alleged assaults.

PC Marsden said: "I felt they were not in a position to help or they were preoccupied."

Mr Greaney said: "Had any other person, a member of the public, intervened in any way to help you?"

The officer replied: "No members of the public in that room tried to help.

"In the aftermath when I managed to get back on my feet and shout for help, I scanned the room and saw people watching and recording on phones."

The trial continues.
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MEN is doing some live trial updates, I picked the fun part of the defence's cross examination of the officer.

PC Marsden agreed police officers had to act within the law and if they did not they could be subject to criminal or civil court action or disciplinary action.

Mr Khan asks if he is aware of police officers selling drugs prompting Mr Greaney for the prosecution to ask what the question had to do with the issues in the case.

After the KC rephrased the question, PC Marsden said he had never encountered an officer who had acted outside the law or committed professional misconduct.

Asked how he would describe his conduct on the day of the incident, PC Marsden answered ‘professional’ and went on that he did not agree that his actions had ‘fallen below the standards of a police officer’.

PC Marsden agreed he was required to challenge the behaviour of other officers if their conduct fell below required standards.

Judge Flewitt suggested to the KC that such questions should wait until the officer had been pointed to potential misconduct of other officers in the CCTV footage of the incident.
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The officer is shown slow-motion footage from the pay station and, when the KC asked why he had appeared to walk between people, the officer said this was the most ‘direct route’ to the suspect at the pay station.

Asked what the problem with the crowd was, the officer said the pathway was ‘obstructed’ and that there were also suitcases in the way.

Reminded that he had said he feared there would be ‘close quarter conflict’ in his statement, the KC questioned why he then went to approach the suspect at the pay station.

The PC said he based his actions on his experience that someone who had been violent once was ‘more likely’ to be violent again when challenged.

The KC asks the witness if ‘that applies to you’ prompting the judge to intervene and suggest the line of questioning was ‘illogical’.

The officer said that he had to adopt the ‘national decision model’ and ‘mitigate’ the risks he faced.

The KC said his decision ‘did lead to violence’ and PC Marsden replied: “Yes unfortunately it did lead to violence to me.”

The jurors are sent away for lunch.
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The jurors are brought back into court and Mr Khan’s cross-examination continues.

The KC suggested it was a ‘wrong decision’ to decide to get a hold of Mr Amaaz at the pay station.

“That’s your opinion,” said the PC.

The KC suggested the actions were ‘unlawful’ because force was ‘unjustified, disproportionate and not necessary’.

The PC said the officers decided what they would do before they left the terminal building.

The witness agreed by law he would have to have ‘reasonable grounds’ to perform an arrest and that it should be ‘necessary’.
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Mr Khan suggested to the officer he could have delivered the kick to the stomach but PC Marsden said Mr Amaaz was lying face down.

He suggested other parts of the body were available but the officer said that was not an ‘option’.

Mr Khan suggested to the officer that he was ‘furious’ as he had been attacked but the PC said these were ‘your words not mine’.

“You grabbed him round the neck because the red mist had fallen from your eyes,” said Mr Khan.

“No,” answered the officer.

The KC suggested the kick had been ‘pretty harsh’ but the PC said ‘no it wasn’t’, adding it was just hard enough to ‘achieve the desired effect’ and ‘stun’ the suspect.

Mr Khan described it as ‘gratuitous’ and a ‘loss of control’.

“No it wasn’t,” replied the PC.
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The Crack Spiders Bitch said:
Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but the establishment political parties will never "fix" the university visa loophole.
It's not broken - it's designed that way.
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Don't forget the second stage that's also totally not designed for this purpose.

The amount of "green energy" government teat sucking scam companies that are designed to bridge the gap from University visa scam to full employment scams are truly incredible.

Both in Aus and UK they take exclusively Indians and give them a way to worm firmly into a legal residency permit and citizenship. Before bringing all 11,000 of the offspring over.

But don't worry at least we are getting state-of-the-art green energy technology right? Fuck no! It's only surviving off government grants and absolutely nothing of importance ever comes from it.
 
Some evening news from the BBC (of all places):

Former PM Rishi Sunak takes job at Goldman Sachs:

Archive: https://archive.ph/WH4Os

Gregg Wallace sacked from MasterChef as 50 more people make claims:

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Tributes pour in for former Tory MP Norman Tebbit after his death at the age of 94:

Archive: https://archive.ph/IrWOg
 
Mound Dweller said:
What did I say?
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Calling this out somehow makes you a pinko commie though, why is that?
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Can I have six numbers for tomorrow night? ;)

You're absolutely right, no surprises Rishi would do this - maybe he should have stayed as a banker (yes, I typed that correctly, I think) all along as he was shit as PM.

Oh and the Football Regulator Bill got passed, though whether or not it'll prevent clubs from ending up in the same position that poor old Bury FC did in 2019 remains to be seen.

When fellow Lancashire side Morecambe are said to be days away from being wound up, will this new Regulator actually be able to save the crisis hit Shrimpers?

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Guys (and ladies)

Glad tidings!

Tonight I've had an epiphany. Previously I was pretty miserable, but just now I think I've got the whole thing sorted out.

See, I was on the Elizabeth Line earlier tonight. A lady was on the train with her dog. It was a big one though. Im not an expert but I'd say it was so be some kind of Golden Retriever. Anyway, I saw two pakis come on and look super uncomfortable with the dog. Remember, they consider them to be unclean (ironic).

They actually moved carriages, and the rest of us normal people were left witg a disease free tube carriage to give this good boy a lot of ear scritches and belly rubs.

Tube dogs could provide more long term benefits than airport sniffer dogs. Someone get Reform's leadership on the line. These are the kind of policies we need.
 
Clem Fandango said:
Guys (and ladies)

Glad tidings!

Tonight I've had an epiphany. Previously I was pretty miserable, but just now I think I've got the whole thing sorted out.

See, I was on the Elizabeth Line earlier tonight. A lady was on the train with her dog. It was a big one though. Im not an expert but I'd say it was so be some kind of Golden Retriever. Anyway, I saw two pakis come on and look super uncomfortable with the dog. Remember, they consider them to be unclean (ironic).

They actually moved carriages, and the rest of us normal people were left witg a disease free tube carriage to give this good boy a lot of ear scritches and belly rubs.

Tube dogs could provide more long term benefits than airport sniffer dogs. Someone get Reform's leadership on the line. These are the kind of policies we need.
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Good Boys, doing the work of the Lord.

Hope they get extra belly rubs and treats.
 
Made In Wales said:
I hope you're right, but it only takes one spark to make a sacrificial bonfire.
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Let us both hope that when a riot happens, it's fat baz and dave from the chippy and not akmed and abdul.

Pakis going full riot in the UK would make the media defence of "fiery but mostly peaceful" look like childs play. The copper won't intervene, the media won't broadcast - and if they do, here's why pakis rioting is a good thing and whiteys fault.
 
Clem Fandango said:
Guys (and ladies)

Glad tidings!

Tonight I've had an epiphany. Previously I was pretty miserable, but just now I think I've got the whole thing sorted out.

See, I was on the Elizabeth Line earlier tonight. A lady was on the train with her dog. It was a big one though. Im not an expert but I'd say it was so be some kind of Golden Retriever. Anyway, I saw two pakis come on and look super uncomfortable with the dog. Remember, they consider them to be unclean (ironic).

They actually moved carriages, and the rest of us normal people were left witg a disease free tube carriage to give this good boy a lot of ear scritches and belly rubs.

Tube dogs could provide more long term benefits than airport sniffer dogs. Someone get Reform's leadership on the line. These are the kind of policies we need.
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That's nothing. This one time I was on the train and scared of all the niggers and then my UNDERTALE "lesser dog" scarf came alive like in Stretch Panic and deleted all the niggers and I was OK.:)
 
Mound Dweller said:
What did I say?
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Calling this out somehow makes you a pinko commie though, why is that?
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Politicians retiring from politics into banks or big tech isn't controversial. Saying the reason everything is shit is because of greed is. Mark Hamill says the same shit about modern Star wars and it never makes sense. You don't do things that make people hate you and withdraw support if you want to make a profit. You don't import the third world who abuse the benefits system to make the line go up. It goes down.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
Politicians retiring from politics into banks or big tech isn't controversial. Saying the reason everything is shit is because of greed is. Mark Hamill says the same shit about modern Star wars and it never makes sense. You don't do things that make people hate you and withdraw support if you want to make a profit. You don't import the third world who abuse the benefits system to make the line go up. It goes down.
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It has been a perennial problem since the times of Ancient Athens that elected officials get greedy, not so much a controversy as it is a sad fact.
It also goes beyond mere humble greed, it's a mindset of fallacies, "short-termism" is a more modern word for it, and "tragedy of the commons" is an older one for a similar problem; if everyone has everything then everybody in fact has nothing for themselves, and is driven to snatch as much as they can.

Line does indeed go up because the free shit you throw at the browns is put back into the system in an incestuous loop of GDP worship, and that's just with the benefits money, look at how bent the house building "market" is, it's mutual self-assurance all the way up-down.
 
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BongoMongo said:
Student visas for undergraduate degrees need to go.
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They pay more amd that subs the British students. Tuition fees got most subjects don’t cover the full cost. And yes that full cost us far higher than it used to be be so of administrative bloat. When I was an undergraduate a girl off my course worked in the foreign student Chinese-attracting office over the summer. She actually ended up employed there. She broke the numbers down for me, and this was thirty plus years ago so fuck knows how bad it is now. The whole uni grift runs on stuff like this.
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Restrict finance to STEM degrees or something,
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As a holder of a few stem degrees I’d say we have to have humanities as well. History, geography, all that kind of thing really is important. But we can for sure restrict everything to lower number of courses and higher quality of courses. Studying ancient Sumerian texts at Cambridge? Go for it, but just a few of you. There are plenty of stem courses that are not useful either. Forensics is fun and fascinating but there are so many students and very few jobs.
We just need academia back to a smaller pool. And we need really solid technical paths for people. Music tech for example should be a vocational polytechnic thing. Apprenticeships should be subsidised like degrees are.
 
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