🪦 Deceased Ashley Isaacs / Hamtaro-chan - The Lich Queen; Might Have Fallen Victim to Turn Undead

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stingray said:
Why did you crop out the dates, though? Most of these are from 2015, the most recent being 2018.
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Good point.
Tumblr only shows the dates for me when I click the three dots next to the title; I've manually added them to avoid further confusion.
 
This thread feels like…a funeral, but she’s not dead. Yet.

Something I’m curious about: does Ash think of or use any kind of harm reduction methods? I don’t know what those would be for EDs, but I know for something like drug use, you can at least use clean tools and not use alone, or for self-harm, give yourself proper first aid and space it out.

Harm reduction can be useful, but perhaps she is too far “gone” or not able to think clearly enough. Or too desperate. And even if she clawed her way back, the damage would be done.

Of course, people have different views on harm reduction vs abstinence ideas. But in my trawling of the Internet, I’ve seen that even forums for people going through the same thing while not always preaching recovery do seem to help.

Never browsed MPA, but there (was? Is? Maybe still is?) a similar site and forum for people who do any kind of self-harm, usually cutting.

I mean, not ideal. Risky click of that day. But I found it interesting there was, alongside being able to chat with others, information on first aid, safety, and possible alternative actions one might take. It did seem to help, and if someone talked about having done it, others might ask “did you do xyz, to be safer?”

Ash is just…doesn’t even have that sort of weird, controversial support now. Even her own “people” in that sense think “whoa. Too far.”

I feel someone ought to make her a blanket. That’s a sort of odd funeral superstition for me, to give someone something warm and a bit of precious metal when they die.
 
Sonalee Rashitwar said:
Something I’m curious about: does Ash think of or use any kind of harm reduction methods? I don’t know what those would be for EDs, but
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ED recovery and "pro" ED groups/sites are full of harm reduction stuff. Outside of the cliche UwU lovely bones type shit, posting about harm reduction is what dominates the discussion even if they don't explicitly call it harm reduction or know what that is.

Traditionally, treatment for eating disorders has been mostly abstinence-based. But for someone like Ashley that is older, long-suffering, and very far gone (especially with anorexia vs other EDs), professionals basically have to really embrace harm reduction methods with their patients because the alternative is certain death. If Lich is working with any kind of clinician or specialist then yeah there's probably a lot of harm reduction going on because otherwise, she'd refuse treatment/be noncompliant under an abstinence model and would already be dead.
 
Sonalee Rashitwar said:
I don’t know what those would be for EDs
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Not sure if this counts, But I once read a biography of a bulmarexic woman where she said she would eat something colored very brightly orange, like carrots or a fuck ton of doritos, and once those started coming up and she saw the orange that was her signal to stop vomiting. It was her method of making sure she retained enough food to function.

I cannot for the life of me, remember the name of this book or the woman who wrote it.
 
LimeRikki said:
I cannot for the life of me, remember the name of this book or the woman who wrote it.
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Might have been either “Wasted” by Marya Hornbacher, or “Hunger” by Roxanne Gay.

Roxanne Gay is actually a deathfat, but she even admits in “Hunger” that she deliberately gained weight after being gangraped at 12, and she did get WLS and is doing better, so let’s keep her off the farms.
 
Sonalee Rashitwar said:
Might have been either “Wasted” by Marya Hornbacher, or “Hunger” by Roxanne Gay.

Roxanne Gay is actually a deathfat, but she even admits in “Hunger” that she deliberately gained weight after being gangraped at 12, and she did get WLS and is doing better, so let’s keep her off the farms.
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It was "Wasted"! I'm like 95% percent sure that was the book!
Thank you!!!
 
Maybe this skelly just needs a train run on her to restore her to mental health.
 
AnOminous said:
Maybe this skelly just needs a train run on her to restore her to mental health.
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The issue is that if you're too rough with her she might suffer a compound fracture.

If that happens there is a real risk of whoever is on top getting stabbed by her protruding broken bone(s).

Aight gimme them neg stickers, I deserve it for what I just wrote.
 
LimeRikki said:
The issue is that if you're too rough with her she might suffer a compound fracture.

If that happens there is a real risk of whoever is on top getting stabbed by her protruding broken bone(s).

Aight gimme them neg stickers, I deserve it for what I just wrote.
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I’d be more worried about internal injuries. Part of the reason the CP Josh got caught with was so especially awful was because the kids depicted were so physically small.

If you’re physically that small (let’s not dispute Ash is the weight of a young kid), having any kind of intercourse, especially with someone much larger, is at best painful and at worst can wreck you from the inside- tearing, infections, incontinence, etc.
 
LimeRikki said:
???????
Schizo posting detected?

Are you talking about Ooperator Josh or are you bringing up some random Josh that has no connection to this thread?
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Should have clarified. Josh Duggar, he is a Quiverfull cow, got caught with child porn a few years back. Just forgot that not everyone also browses the QF thread.
 
LimeRikki said:
Not sure if this counts, But I once read a biography of a bulmarexic woman where she said she would eat something colored very brightly orange, like carrots or a fuck ton of doritos, and once those started coming up and she saw the orange that was her signal to stop vomiting. It was her method of making sure she retained enough food to function.

I cannot for the life of me, remember the name of this book or the woman who wrote it.
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Sonalee Rashitwar said:
Might have been either “Wasted” by Marya Hornbacher, or “Hunger” by Roxanne Gay.
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LimeRikki said:
It was "Wasted"! I'm like 95% percent sure that was the book!
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Definitely Wasted, but it's not an uncommon trick. I'll put the passage under the spoiler. Skip if you don't want to read a graphic description of bulimics doing bulimic things.

You will lift the toilet set, carefully slide your fingers inside your mouth and down your throat, and puke until you see orange. The Doritos. You ate them first because you, like most bulimics, have developed a system of "markers," eating brightly colored food first so you can tell when it's all out, and it all comes out, in reverse order: the pizza, cookies, Ruffles, pretzels, Doritos, all swimming in dark swirls of Coke.

Ash's online wish lists always had things like gift cards for restaurants. She never made a secret of her eating-and-puking habits, so I assume she either had a system or just purged until there was nothing left.
 
I’m most concerned about her heart, actually. Although if Ash is very inactive it may be the thing keeping her alive.

I know a good bit about cardiac shit, because of a genetic problem in my family. And I had a non-ED problem as a teen that results in similar deficiencies and symptoms as cardiac problems from ED (which Ash definitely has).

She’s going to feel constant fatigue, headaches, arrhythmia or just weird heart activity (drops really low when you sleep, and can suddenly and unexpectedly speed up for no clear reason- this is scary). Blood pressure will be similarly unstable, and suddenly swing high or low whenever she sits or stands up. The heart muscle itself can weaken or wear out

The worst part? She’s too sick to withstand a surgery or even comprehensive testing. Generally there is a “stress” test component that gives the most complete information. But you have to make the person exercise for that. They had to stop the test on my dad after a few, because they realized it’d kill him to continue. And he was a pretty normal middle aged dude. Ash might also be too fragile to get a heart catheter, which is another way to test.
 
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