Are we bad people? - Morality and the farms.

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I like to see it this way.

We started as "assholes" but now the world has degraded so fucking badly that we are the "good guys" in comparison.
At least you can say that we have some level of standards (most of us do anyway, I'd hope), cant say the some for a lot of people these days
 
The handsome tard said:
I like to see it this way.

We started as "assholes" but now the world has degraded so fucking badly that we are the "good guys" in comparison.
At least you can say that we have some level of standards (most of us do anyway, I'd hope), cant say the some for a lot of people these days
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The world is no longer good vs. evil, now it is merely bad vs. totally evil.
 
If you post things on social media for the whole world to see you don't get to cry when other people pay attention to it and discuss it. That is the whole point of social media FFS. If you don't want people to know or talk about what you're posting, you're under literally no obligation to put it out there in the first place. Weening, töuching the poøp, actual harassment, etc. is obviously the hard line in the sand which is why we have a strict rule against it.

People don't like KF because we don't blindly accept what we're told at face value about people and we don't give people a pass on objectively bad behavior just because they have a victim complex. It takes a LOT of bullshit for someone to be interesting or worth following enough to deserve their own thread. If KF did not exist, all of these people would just be discussed elsewhere, and for the most part they already are.
 
Gog & Magog said:
WHAT THE HELL, MAN?!? You can't just go around accusing people of that! I'm a bad person, not a monster!
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You know and I know it's true, dude. You also steal your neighbour's newspaper on Sundays and claim you never saw it when he asks.
 
Definitions for Good and bad is disturbingly subjective. Troons think it's a good thing to issue death threats on people who disagree with their lifestyle, and some Muslim countries think that Honor killings of family members are for their own good.

Here we at least try to see things from more then one perspective and don't rely on our opinions being spoon fed by mass media with ulterior motives. But should we be doing more? Are we complicit with the ils of the world by putting our personal lives and safety ahead of fixing things? Should we be pushing for cultural conformity to the point of kicking off the crusades again?

We won't make the world a better place before tea time, but we can set the groundwork for things to improve over time. And the best groundwork is a honest and objective analysis of current events and facts. In which case one of the best things we can be doing is finding and preserving objective truth and facts so that they can be used to determine how to shape the future.

I'd say every day that we spend uncovering and sharing objective facts and truths is a day we spent for the greater good.
 
Positron said:
"And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." (Genesis 2; 16-17)

Kiwifarms is haram not because we are shitting on the weak, but because we are learning good and evil.
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Spot on.

If anything, I consider myself a good person for joining the Kiwifarms and dispensing with all false pretenses of modern society of being a hecking wholesome guy by rightly calling retards out for being dumb and laughing at them for putting their dumb opinions and actions out there for all to see. Calling them out and laughing at them mostly hinges upon the person talked about also being a disingenuous piece of shit, since I try to restrain myself from mockery when it comes to people whose circumstances are truly out of their control, and as such can't truly be said to be the architects of their own failings. I'm not at all well versed in the lore of Chris-chan, for example, but from what I've seen of his escapades, his whole situation just makes me sad. He obviously has legitimate mental problems so severe, and a social background so dysfunctional, that he just can't seem to help himself. I pity him.

You, @Positron, have a great ability to spectate and catalogue the adventures of supreme leader of all things repulsive, Robert Chipman. Contrary to you, I find myself too repulsed by his existence, and so I mostly refrain from reading his thread anymore. This is a place to laugh at the cows, after all, not seeth at them in impotent anger. As far as I'm concerned though, not only do I not feel bad at all for mocking and disparaging Robert Chipman, but I consider it to be a moral good. The only religious and moral aspects that teaches one not to do so that I would take heed to would be those that strive for enlightenment in letting go of earthly desires; to remove yourself of vicious cycles of negativity for the good of not only yourself, but for that of other people as well. Be the change you want to be and the Golden Rule, and all that. Should we be reborn or something like that, I think we all would like to be born in an environment where people are kind and understanding. Being kind and understanding is of no help to one such as Robert, though. Someone like him would probably benefit a lot more through being dealt harsh truths in an uncompromising manner.

I suppose the fact that I take pleasure in people like Robert Chipman constantly taking L's is in itself a sign of not being enlightened, whatever that means. I do feel I should better myself in that respect. Still, morality is not straightforward, and mocking people like Robert has to be a moral good, as far as I'm concerned.

At any rate, from what I gather, Confucianism is a social and ethical philosophy that would laugh in the face of what OP is suggesting might be the case. The "turn the other cheek" has different dimensions to it when viewed through different cultural and philosophical lenses.

I haven't replied to this thread before, and I note that it was created back in 2018. I think a lot of people who replied to it initially are more jaded by the years that has passed since then.
 
personally, i don’t really care. maybe we are, maybe we aren’t. it hardly matters. i’d wager that it’s a mixed bag of good people and bad people on here. i’ve got no idea which side i’m on, but as i said, i don’t really care.
 
If you have to ask the answer is probably yes.

What do you use this community for? If it’s to dunk on miserable internet non-celebrities that nobody in your real life has ever heard of, to a-log about people you’ve never met, or spout off bigoted nonsense your IRL friends wouldnt tolerate, then you’re using the community to be a cruel gossip. That is a bad thing to do, but you could choose to change your ways, use the community to do other things, or just quit posting here.

I’d hold off judgement of whether any particular KFer is a “good” person or not; that’s a complicated question; I can only see the side of you that you present on the Farms, and most people aren’t just one or the other, but a mix of bad and good traits that are ultimately a WIP, hopefully towards becoming someone better. Ultimately it’s between you and God and I have no ability to judge your worth in absolute terms.

But I feel prettt comfortable saying this community encourages people to behave badly and creates a space where you’re encouraged to be crueler than you otherwise would be.
 
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Some here are incredibly retarded in some aspects, many are not. But still, that's my own opinion.

KF does not define you. You know if you're a "bad person" or not regardless of whether you post here.

Unless you're a NPC, you will always find people to tell you how horrible and offensive your opinions are. It's very subjective.

Some people think I am the best thing that ever happened to them, others think that I am a cancer who should be excised. And that's fine, because it's often a reciprocal feeling.

Posting here does not make you good or bad. Nor do your action in a vacuum. Unless you're a real piece of work I guess.
 
If the farms are evil, then it's a necessary evil. Never approved of doxxing in any regard (not just here but in general), but keeping tabs on shitty people while remaining neutral otherwise hardly makes the individual who uses this site bad.
 
starborn427614 said:
If the farms are evil, then it's a necessary evil. Never approved of doxxing in any regard (not just here but in general), but keeping tabs on shitty people while remaining neutral otherwise hardly makes the individual who uses this site bad.
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Behind every Goodman is a Badman.
 
Nanananana, Badman!

It went from morally ambigous laughing at stupid people to sperging at truly vile people.

Are we the baddies? Jah.
Are the cows we mock any better? Nein.

But clown world is getting wilder and darker, and grey can shine when all around it is black.
 
Stan said:
What do you use this community for? If it’s to dunk on miserable internet non-celebrities that nobody in your real life has ever heard of, to a-log about people you’ve never met, or spout off bigoted nonsense your IRL friends wouldnt tolerate, then you’re using the community to be a cruel gossip. That is a bad thing to do, but you could choose to change your ways, use the community to do other things, or just quit posting here.
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I only use the farms to save Western Civilisation from the libtards, so thankfully none of that applies to me.
 
Dyn said:
I only use the farms to save Western Civilisation from the libtards, so thankfully none of that applies to me.
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@Y2K Baby did that better than you ever did bucko, @AnOminous I also don't agree with the blackpill idea that the world is now divided between 'bad' and 'totally evil' people. I think its far more complicated and there are still genuinely good people here and in the real world as well as complete scumbags. The idea that the whole world is evil is nonsense, kiwi farms I think is just a necessary force where people can talk about the degeneracy that the internet and the real world has normalised without being censored, its a rare place where shame is encouraged since so many people need that nowadays. I don't think wer'e really good or bad but if we had any moral alignment I'd sya more than anything we are probably chaotic neutral, I've met some genuinely friendly people whether you like it or not and no matter how bad someone may seem here keep in mind it's just an internet persona. Most people I'd like to imagine are probably nicer people IRL than their kiwi farms persona makes them seem like. Thats my thoughts anyway.
 
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