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It is funny how Critical Role's motto is "Love each other" but boy do they absolutely hate people who have different political views then them. Though that is the Woke Left and Hollywood in a nutshell.
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Worked for Archwarhammer and his Mos Eisley of a table, didn't it?
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Arch is the kind of guy who knows way too much about a game to where he could make a game really fun for the players, but he won't. He'll just use that to fuck you for coloring outside the lines.
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I've been poking around SR forums (have enough players to start my game) and came across this thread. Whiny faggot whines there's enslaved joygirls in his gritty cyberpunk game, says career criminals are unprofessional. I expected the responses to agree with whiny faggot, was pleasantly surprised. I got a chuckle, maybe you will too.
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Anyone else seeing this? I've never even been on the SR forums. I opened it in a private window first, too.
Any chance of some screenshots of the conversation?
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OP
Someone explains so even the retard gets it.
The predictable response.
My nigga explaining how tge world actually works.
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It's faggots like that who should be gatekept from the hobby.
"They'd blow up any parlor they found!"
>Blows up parlor
>Kills 50 dolls
>Kills 80 innocent civilians
>Two hab-blocks burn down
>We did it, Patrick, we saved Democracy!
Someone slap that faggot and tell him the S in SR doesn't stand for Soy
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Sadly, in the actual 'verse soy is everywhere. There's just no avoiding it. It's soy overload. Thus, we must remove all soyboys from Shadowrun. Soykaf is bad enough without people who unironically enjoy it.
Ironically, I made a Johnson for my game that this faggot would absolutely adore. He's a friendly, relaxed, encouraging, helpful employer with a wealth of experience (he's in his 90s but is rich enough to afford leonization) who happens to be one of the most powerful mafia capos in the area. He also has a thing for wiring up attractive women then chipping them with "adjustment" software to make them 100% obedient to him. When they get too old for him (he's not a pedo, I mean once they hit their mid-30s), he either gets them hopelessly addicted to beetles and hands him over to his pimps so they'll work as cheap lays OR he gets them leonization and THEN gets them addicted to beetles and puts them on the street once the treatment no longer works. But he's a swell guy, really.
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There's actually decent reasons to meet up in a Parlor; the service maids/hookers of a respectable one will not remember the corpo and the dirty bums he's sharing air with due to memory devices. It's designed to be quiet and out of the way for the choosy client. Ergo it's a good fixing location; you don't want to get known and the client sure as hell doesn't want to be seen with you if you fuck it up. It's not corporate dick waving; it's the same thing as a speakeasy or a small hole in the wall for private people.
Also if you don't fucking want to have them meet up and deal with Bunraku, don't have them go into a parlor then as the GM. The idiot in the comments makes a big deal about his players likely reeeing at it; and the simple response is to just don't focus on or use them if you know your players.
For example, I'd probably as a PC not want to do a run to catch some Bunraku who managed to escape myself; a shade too sleazy for me and not what I usually play as a character (I tend to prefer white or gray hatting). But I'd also know that his players would get mulched if they tried to blow up several parlors. I wonder how they'd react to some of the dolls actually being willing and happily employed with no chips, which isn't that uncommon? Probably chimp I'd bet.
It's similar to how you can choose to not run a specific job so long as you don't commit. This guy's a moron.
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If I had to guess he's likely a transfer from D&D where you're vaunted heroes Doing The Right Thing and fighting against evil to save the world (unless you're doing an evil campaign but that's more a veteran thing). It's funny when people like that get their first taste of Shadowrun and realize their teammates are insane or desperate, their fixer's a human trafficker, and their boss is definitely lying about what you're supposed to do. They short out exactly like the dude I posted the first time a fellow player builds a drug dealing serial killer and it's funny as hell to watch.
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I've been in plenty of D&D games where most or all of the party are different shades of grey, in one everyone was some form of Neutral and we pretty much only happened to beat the bad guys because they were filthy rich and we wanted the vast amounts of money they were using to fund their evil organization for ourselves just to buy stuff make killing things easier.
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GM switching from "We're bringing democracy and gay rights to medieval peasants and are so quirky!" D&D to even the glittery grim and gritty cyberpunk dystopia of Shadowrun can damn near be a brain breaker for some GM's.
Now they have bad guys that aren't "OOooh, scary black knight in armor who hates gays and has a dark god and is partially a demon who worships the arch-demon Blumph" to "Dude in a hundred kay nuyen suit hiring mercs to blow up a rival's limo" to "WHAT THE FUCK IS AN INSECT SHAMAN?"
Some people really can't make the switch.
I mean, if he wants his people to be down with the good guys, he needs to run the old Against the Hive module, the Universal Brotherhood, and Ivy & Chrome.
SUre, you're murderous sociopaths packing enough hardware to fight a war and chromed to the gills, but holy shit, those are insect spirits!
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It's more that modern transplants don't understand that a world has a different set of morals than real life and can't actually roleplay for shit in my experience. DND perfectly can be played full on evil; one of the longest games I was in was an all evil game where I played a tyrant and dictator in the making.
But the baby brains who got in due to Mercer can't grok that their character isn't them, and their morals don't apply necessarily in the setting. The moment they have to not play their CR rip-off character and have to play scum bags at all breaks their brain.
But the baby brains who got in due to Mercer can't grok that their character isn't them, and their morals don't apply necessarily in the setting. The moment they have to not play their CR rip-off character and have to play scum bags at all breaks their brain.
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Sure, so have I. But the Critical Role kids? The tourists? The people just getting into the hobby? They're either good or good adjacent neutral. Well, unless you're a teenage boy but even then you can only get killed as a chaotic evil rogue with a mysterious past dressed in all black so many times before you try something else.
If I got one of those people I'd transplant the UB in my game, let them think they were hooding, and then lower the boom just to watch their brain melt.
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I still remember when that got dropped.
We were doing shit like Elven Fire and those modules, along with homebrew stuff.
Then our GM ran Universal Brotherhood and mixed it in with his homebrew stuff, so the UB stuff was broken up slightly and we got into the bigger problems by having a Johnson from another problem come up and offer to delete our files with Aztechnology if we looked for his sister.
Next thing we knew, we're working with some guy and going to Hawaii and WHAT THE FUCK?
We retired about half of our characters because: "I've seen too much, chummer."
I'd love to run those couple of modules with the simsense star and the ant spirits, the one with the chomed chick and the cockroach spirits.
Watch these guys just fall the fuck apart.
Have them run into an elven go-gang like Elven fire and then find out that the happy dance dance elves of Portland are funding terrorists.
Or better yet, let them know that, no, they can't go to Portland.
It's owned by elves.
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Tir’s mellowed out somewhat but it’s still not a place to visit if you’re not an elf, or on business.
As is, Bunraku Parlors as a Johnson Meet location aren’t exactly going to send me the right message as a runner. It’s going to make me ask the same sort of questions as wanting to do a meet at a brothel, namely “just how professional is our client and how professional do they see us as.” Even if it’s a great fixing location, it’s also sketchy looking. Reputations mean a lot and there’s a good amount of distaste toward Bunraku clients, which isn’t a shock and why pretty much any parlor is going to be a prime location to collect blackmail. Unless it’s a really really damn high scale location I’d be of the opinion to decline the meet. Or at least suggest a different location.
As is, Bunraku Parlors as a Johnson Meet location aren’t exactly going to send me the right message as a runner. It’s going to make me ask the same sort of questions as wanting to do a meet at a brothel, namely “just how professional is our client and how professional do they see us as.” Even if it’s a great fixing location, it’s also sketchy looking. Reputations mean a lot and there’s a good amount of distaste toward Bunraku clients, which isn’t a shock and why pretty much any parlor is going to be a prime location to collect blackmail. Unless it’s a really really damn high scale location I’d be of the opinion to decline the meet. Or at least suggest a different location.
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I guess if you're playing a guy who's a hood I guess it would make sense. It's just complaining about sketchiness when you're supposed to be a career criminal just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, especially since shadowrunner teams can easily include one or more guys or girls that did hard time for crimes they definitely committed. It's not like you're having a meet while Johnson's in the middle of a blowjob while he barks out instructions to the doll or is so coombrained he can't stop saying "ISN'T THIS PLACE GREAT?! THESE SLUTS ARE LITERALLY MIND CONTROLLED SLAVES!" Smart employers will meet in a private office or an unused room anyways to conduct business, the most you'll usually see of the dolls is they might bring drinks.
Not to mention if you're trying to make friends with Yaks, you're going to wind up meeting in at least a couple. Bunraku is their favorite type of business interest.
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My worry would be that the Johnson would do just that. You never know with some types. Even not playing a hood, it’s one of those things that really doesn’t sit well with me and bleeds into characters.
Also unless you know who owns that parlor and can ensure that nobody you run into is recording, you’re risking a decent amount of connection to whatever run you did. Mr. Johnson probably won’t try and fuck you, but the less possible recordings the better. The best places to meet are restaurants with white noise privacy booths that make it so conversations stay private. Easy enough to do, won’t look awkward, won’t raise eyebrows.
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The best place to meet is behind a Stuffer Shack, by the dumpster where the Beetleheads chip up and that one tweaker dances for chits.
The gunfire and the raving of the schitzos will cover your conversation, you don't mind Mr. Johnson brought Corp Security, and he doesn't mind you brought a troll with a Panther Cannon.
Then, when the deals done, you can grab a few Captain Dizzy slurpees and get going back to Puyallup.
Insteresting one I had a GM do was Mr. Johnson met us at a gun range for rich weirdos. He wanted to see the weapons we were packing and had some smartgun chips he wanted us to slot and walk us through the new interface.
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Well, you have the option to leave. If my GM got that hard over imaginary sex slaves I'd wonder if I stumbled into a Magical Realm situation.
Perhaps, but what exactly is blackmail going to get the blackmailer? Sure, if you made a character with a family or a moonlighter who has a day job you'd be worried (and you have a point there since it's a common archetype). But the standard SINless schlub who's doing the runner gig for a shot at a better life or the career smuggler who just got out of prison with a shiny new criminal SIN for human trafficking likely won't be bothered too much. Reputation is important, but in Shadowrun you have two different types of reputation: day reputation, which most runners just don't have, and shadow reputation, which is the one that matters for your career and the end goal of fuck you money. And in the shadows, so long as you can get the job done and act semi-functionally no one cares you shit on a Maya Mercurial loolalike's face every weekend, least of all Mr. Johnson.