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Speaker 2: there anybody that raised their hands? DFC Engineering commented on Kix saying he knows the Speaker 1: who used to run memes dispense, but he recently stopped posting because the Speaker 2: he ever received through DMs were thinly veiled personal Speaker 4: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: The ones about me were funny. Speaker 3: It's crazy. I was even getting like low key threats about Speaker 4: in to the the Cody Speaker 3: Cody Devcat, the, uh, catalog, definitely. Speaker 4: just for Speaker 3: - That's great. I support definitely. Speaker 5: I, Speaker 2: What do you got to say? - The Fizzles wants to jump in. I don't see your Speaker 1: What formerly known as the fizzles it's now. Speaker 2: F C engineering. I don't see. Ah, the - Brizzles, okay. - Yeah, we'll let you in here, bro. Speaker 1: Kay Ye requested. Speaker 2: that. Speaker 5: hippies speak. Speaker 2: see you in here fizzle. we're on a if you go to my - We're fucking boomers. - We're live on Twitter. Speaker 3: Yeah, you can link it. We're all boomers. Speaker 2: That's funny. I don't understand how the internet works. Yippee-ki-yay said that isn't true. link your own website to Speaker 1: I think in reference to you. Speaker 4: Check the link, Yippee. Check the link. Look at the link. It's just a forward. I'm just... Speaker 5: DEFCAD. Speaker 3: I'm not getting paid off that link. It's not an advertiser link. Speaker 4: I'm simply for FDM Arms. Speaker 3: Am I not free to do that? Am I not free to like, to anyone. Speaker 4: Like, but I mean, hold on. I think I've changed it. I think it links directly to Aussie. Speaker 1: commented that as well. Speaker 4: changed it. the DefCAD anymore. it back. I mean, do did that Does that mean people fucking domain does it doesn't really matter Speaker 3: free country do we live? Speaker 4: - Sasha? Speaker 2: Evidently, I've got formerly known as the fizzles DFC. engineering as a speaker now as well we're gonna try not to let everybody on at once so it doesn't get Speaker 4: - Thank you. Speaker 3: Can y'all hear me? Just tell him. Speaker 2: did some shit talking today i heard i i i'd in the kickstream, but yeah, like... Speaker 3: I know the guy who was running memes dispensed. It definitely wasn't me. But yeah, Speaker 2: All the post submissions were all just like, oh, Speaker 3: about like oh like just I hate this Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that like Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 2: You guys were talking about it earlier, like how people just... Speaker 3: get into that like weird Speaker 2: kind of like tribal mindset like oh like you know, oh, you're part of AWCY, so that means you suck. We're gonna die to you Speaker 3: harass you. Speaker 4: things, right? Like, that's not like, I don't get that. I didn't start, I'm pretty sure I didn't start out trolling. Like, that's not, I didn't start out doing it. Like, everything that I've done was in response, not making it, it doesn't make it any better, because I'm still shit-talking, I'm still trolling, I'm still, you know, continuing the bullshit. But, like, everything, Speaker 3: this all started over If I remember right. them talking shit about Middleton and you know, some of these people weren't even my friends. Some of them were scene. There's a list. They have a list of people who didn't Speaker 4: being paid from his partner program. And I just thought it was shitty. Like, Oh, what if they do want to be paid through his partner program? What if they want to upload their shit today. tell them they can't. country. Speaker 2: - You know, is pretty I wouldn't I would call it thankless, but it's like, you know, no one's really in it for the money but at the same time, it's not a free hobby, right? You gotta buy parts kits. Sometimes you gotta pay for CAD subscription, you know, printer parts, whatever. So like, little cash on the side, like through DefCAD or whatever, I don't really knock people for that. Part of what gets people so worked up about that is the whole thought part of Foscad, like free Yes, everything like, Speaker 3: that Speaker 2: you know, puts their designs on DefCAD, me included. Like, I put everything out for free as well, like on Odyssey. on whatever, so it's not like you have to You can get them for free, whatever. But that's my personal gripe with people who DEFCAD for what it fundamentally Speaker 5: - Thank you. Speaker 4: I think the point. Speaker 3: Well, they they come at at it from both ends. They don't like people really using it freely uploading their designs. And they don't like the fact that DefCAD doesn't give a shit and Speaker 4: whether they want them to be up there Speaker 3: I do kind of get the Kind of, but this space is different. This isn't, we're out Speaker 4: just different. We're all about boss. I don't I don't fucking give a shit. Pirate my shit. Make money. I hope I hope if I die. design something that somebody can make money off of. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Speaker 2: - No, we were just talking about that the other day with that muzzle device. Like, I don't, you're saying, oh, you could sell these for profit. Speaker 3: You're the one doing all the work for it. just drawing little numbers and shapes and CAD. if I could, if I could - Probably could. Speaker 4: some money, but I got I got so much and I'm a manual machine. Speaker 3: So, I'm not sure. Speaker 4: Yes. Speaker 3: And the fact that you just, I really wish you would in the case. and said that you are a blow-chip. Speaker 4: Because now you're a target. Defcad.com. Now you're a target. Oh, yeah. Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't actually dev'd anything in like two years. Oh, okay. There you go. You're safe. Speaker 2: Next thing I actually make, I'll for sure post on DefCAD first. How about that? I'll make everyone happy. Do it, bro. Do what you want. You know, I'm done with all the censorship shit. It's so stupid. It's what our community is about, is saying what we want, post it. Speaker 1: and I'm sick of people Speaker 2: like just targeting other for different opinions. Yeah, because I mean, even like... Gosh, I mean, even... three, four years ago, obviously there's always going to be drama in the community. But I don't even think it was bad like that that long ago and it just feels like every day there's some new you know, drama between this guy It's a good group of people. chill, take a step back. Like, is it really necessary? I think people get all up in their egos and autism and shit. Speaker 3: Yeah, bro. The egos and the autism, 100%. 100%. 99% of us are autistic. There's wrong. Everyone in this community, they got a tick of some type. Yeah. It's like, I hear it from like the normie gun community. think we're a bunch of weirdos and it's just I mean, like, I've met some of these guys Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we are kind of weird, you know, but... Speaker 3: comes with the territory. Speaker 2: - I forgot to talk about FDM. - What? - So let's talk about Vega Holdings. - Vega underscore holdings. Thanks so much for the follow RTX. Had to, but also, so we got Vega underscore holdings. on Twitter. And if you guys don't know, this is somebody who's known in the 3D2A community for, you know, taking some cool and awesome and also some of them loop. photo shoots with women posting with 3D printed guns. And I got offered a photo shoot with them to help promote the Arutu. Correct me if I'm saying that wrong, release. It's super cool. Gun. Love that thing. Speaker 3: I don't know. Speaker 2: as Ralph. Yeah. One of those. Aru Tao, Aru Tu, I'm wrong. And stuff went down, Vega block. Speaker 1: all these photos of me posted maybe one or two and and then blocked me and you know that's some shady shit Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody knows anything about it, but he never even talked to me afford blocking me either. He just, he just blocked me. So bro basically just blocked me. And I really I felt like I should mention that. Because I forgot to earlier, but I don't know what's going on with that. If anybody knows anything, please direct message me because what the hell? Speaker 4: and I didn't denounce Cody. Oh, no. That's that's exactly what happened. I mean, I think I I'm assuming because that's you. You actually reached across. Speaker 3: told fucking not to everybody said don't do it they're a Speaker 4: snakes. Yeah, that is true. Speaker 3: Anyways, you did it anyways because Speaker 2: he takes cool pictures yeah his pictures are really cool and um yeah I was like to be honest, it sucks. He blocked me. Vega was a cool dude. I liked all the stuff he was doing. with the anime and stuff, so. Speaker 1: Me and Joseph, Speaker 2: the dev of it, Helped and shit I doubt that Speaker 3: You're not blocked by a parent? Speaker 2: Joseph the parrot, no. Nope, I'm not blocked by him and he follows me. So I'm not sure what's going on with Vega, but it'd be nice to know. Speaker 3: he's cataloged. That's what's Speaker 4: He's friends with Speaker 3: all the people who hate you. it's so weird like you try to reach across the aisle and you got slapped for Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I try to be friendly with everybody, which is funny because I know I'm kind of a crash out, but like I'm friends with death and stuff and I reach across the aisle and be kind of friendly with everybody. But it comes to a point, boys. It comes to a point. Speaker 3: You guys suck. I even tried to write Dianexus in The instant I wrote Diannexis, he fucking wrote that I wrote him, that I was spurging out or some shit. Speaker 4: There he is, erging out, writing me a whole paragraph. Speaker 2: - Not to interrupt you, Yippee-ki-yay said, just now I think, what time is it? Yeah, just now, or a few minutes ago, says, "Funny how FDM mentions the erutal. doubt about it. Let's talk about V8 when it got Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's happening. Speaker 4: I didn't know that Cody spurred about the Irutile. - No idea. I mean, contrary to your all's me and Cody are not best friends he does not have me on speed dial that would be I would fucking let you people know. I'd be like, hey, I'm on the phone right now with Mr. Cody fucking. In the root out. Speaker 5: Period. Speaker 4: It didn't meet the round count. Yeah, no, it didn't. Speaker 2: I remember me saying something about that. Speaker 4: There's a reason why we don't release shit. every five seconds. That nigga like he fucking releases a model like every Yeah. guidelines. - Words and stuff. You know, there's rules Galatians and Aussie. Speaker 2: I think there has to be. keeps everything safe. Speaker 4: Yeah, not to say anybody else shit is guidelines set in place that they're there for a reason. We have our reasons. Is what it is. I mean, it got released. I mean, Aussie didn't slow the release as far as I know. Speaker 2: He also says he's friends with Joseph the parrot. spurred some spur gain c He wrote a whole blog that it was illegal yet posted the files. I don't know what he's referring to as illegal. Speaker 4: Oh, no, no, no. I think I know what he's talking about because I did on that. I forget where I read it at. Maybe it was just a... Speaker 3: It was a joint development. Speaker 4: For some reason, I'm hearing myself. Are you? Mm-hmm. I'm getting reverb. Speaker 3: Like, weren't they trying? Speaker 1: some copyright law. Speaker 3: to circumvent Speaker 2: DefCAD in some way. there was like a specific, there's like a concentrated effort on that side to figure out Like, how can we write this like, Speaker 3: whatever so that if Cody Wilson posted on Def Cad, and sue him for it. Speaker 4: talking about the current suit right now. I'm not a lawyer and you know, Speaker 3: four-year degree in law, but what happened is the catalog. I'm just going to use that general the catalogs lawyer is Copy wrote the pictures and/or the text in like eight different models, I think. different models you can go to something I just found out about that's how how Speaker 4: friends I am with Cody Wilson. I just found Speaker 3: You can go to fedcad.com and check out and see whatever. Speaker 1: The stream is sponsored by DemCAD. Speaker 3: You can go to FedCAD.com and it will show you... Speaker 4: the stuff that has been copywritten and Speaker 3: I think that's what you're talking about because that's what the suit is over. That's what they're suing Def Cad and all of the other businesses. I think Cody because of the pictures included with the files, but not Speaker 4: because how in the can you copy or patent something that another company owns. Like that's another thing that really chaps my ass. that 3D2A, this whole fucking community is built on top of. Speaker 3: work. It's all derivative. Everything. Like... is built on other people's shit. Speaker 4: other companies i don't know did i just fucking make a big circle no yeah that makes sense that's Speaker 2: It's like I mean personally in my own work. It's like I'm pulling from other people's ideas other people's work, other companies work. Most people do that. I mean, I've got people reaching out to me all the time asking like, "Hey, could you send me a file for such and such part or such and such design? I have an idea that I think might enhance it or something I could pull from it." Yeah, sure. Like, why not? That's the point of the open source part of our community. I think the the fundamental reason why the community's successful in developing such cool shit is because generally embrace that mindset of sharing everything we can for the benefit of everyone. turn around, pretend like you're somehow holy and you can copyright such and such text or whatever just because you don't like somebody. we do okay like we can have personal beef that's fine whatever like but um if it's at the detriment of the community as a whole like come on like Speaker 3: That's what's happening. I don't want to be all doom and gloom. I know I've said it before, but like, like this Speaker 4: damage the community Speaker 3: They don't care. I mean, I get... Speaker 4: I haven't heard any of them say, hey, this... Speaker 3: may not be a good idea to Speaker 4: And I don't know what that means. I don't know. I don't think it's, I don't think it's going to turn out well for anyone. something, but I think, you know, the community Speaker 3: isn't going to benefit from it. I know we haven't so far. If anything, let's hope it doesn't start Speaker 4: trickle down effect where I'm going to start, you know, frivolous lawsuits against this person because, you know, I don't like. Speaker 3: to the right. Speaker 2: I remember when was doing the NT-72. I got a lot of pushback from people because I think it was Kron... had made some changes and reinforced the pivot pin and some other things with SCS parts. and the STS Hammer and Trigger too, which those are the two Speaker 4: of that launcher is Speaker 2: pivot pin and then the trigger system kind of sucks. Uh, I had reservations. Speaker 3: of course, just based on Speaker 2: and reputation, but the work, it was objectively good. I was willing to look past that and, you know, share it just It was better than what I did. guys on the team that were saying, hey, you shouldn't associate with this guy. I understand that. Speaker 5: you know. You're right. You're right. Speaker 1: - Nope. I was managing my kick track. Speaker 2: How much longer should we go? I don't want to overrun it, but I feel like we need some shit talkers. Well, I. Why is spooky not in here screaming at us? Speaker 1: Why not screaming at us? Speaker 4: We don't want to hear from Spooky. Where is this motherfucker? Speaker 3: I like DFCs. Speaker 2: - Me too, thanks so much for talking. Speaker 3: DMC. Yeah, I don't want to hear spooky and I don't want to hear AG. Speaker 4: I think they're the same person. blocked. Maybe that's why they're let's let you can let he wants to grow I'm scared don't be scared if he says something you don't like Speaker 3: It's that easy. That's what they do to you. That's what they do. Speaker 1: the same. Alright, you guys. I want to firmly say shit talking is Speaker 2: just like I know. No crazy. Speaker 4: Let's hear what Yippia has to say. All right. - Good talk. Speaker 2: Yeah, no. Speaker 4: both of you are shit Speaker 2: I can't even see who said that. - Bobby, okay. Speaker 1: I don't exist. Speaker 2: I'm just going to let a bunch of people in and we're going to see what happens. with the other kids. Yippee. You have the floor Yippee. Also everybody else, please be respectful as well. Or try to. Can y'all hear me? What's up, brother? Speaker 5: details were left out as one of Joseph the Parrot's friends. You left out a lot of details there, FDM. Cody claiming doing a Speaker 2: about it being iTunes. Speaker 5: and illegal transfers. Speaker 2: and everything else. And then yet a month later, Thank you. Speaker 5: supposed to be illegal. Speaker 2: So is it just legal or what? Speaker 5: and you know, Speaker 3: at people, which is a Speaker 2: And again, this is my friend. A Rue Tal? - Yeah, the uratel. everyone who doesn't know the uratel uh the developers is in another tree. - I met him, met him, he's a good guy. - Seems like a cool dude, yeah. Speaker 3: - Very cool. A lot of people will see I actually don't hate there. Speaker 4: Interesting stuff. Speaker 2: I don't necessarily screw around. being, yeah, there was a reason we did that. And so you got that. Speaker 5: That's like one of my main reasons for disliking the dude. But another point I'd like to address is that copyleft licenses, which you're referring to licenses Speaker 4: things that prevent them being behind paywalls. Speaker 3: If you've been in software, you can't just Speaker 5: for some way to get the files. Speaker 4: And that's that. You can't Speaker 2: have to respect. If you're going to take the files respect that license. So DEFCAD is a paid subscription model. So designs that don't follow that should not be there. Speaker 5: Thank you. Speaker 4: Well, you do. I mean, you're welcome to your opinion. But for me, is that an opinion? Speaker 5: going to willing to say I have a paid subscription Speaker 3: that goes against a license. And I'm going to set that up and charge money for a subscription to this free software that's supposed to be copyleft. Well, I've been pretty outspoken. Speaker 4: like, you know, medical patents, things that can you know, save lives or protect you. I don't give a shit about your patent. license. Speaker 3: - So that's the irony behind what you're saying. Speaker 5: paywall and you don't care about the lice Speaker 3: itself is free and open. It's just we're saying that I don't want it behind a Speaker 4: if you're going to redistribute it yeah no no i understand what you're saying and i mean there's it's not that hard it's i i - I wouldn't personally, it because that's that's just me that's my Speaker 3: it seems that Cody doesn't respect it. He's fighting it. I guess he's, is that exactly I got to look again. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: Thank you, Sarah. Yippie, can you catch me up? Speaker 2: re-explain what you're saying again. license it's a copy left Speaker 4: Okay. Speaker 5: you cannot basically hold the distribution away. Speaker 4: but if someone wants a copy of it you have to be able to provide it to them for free oh i get what you're saying Speaker 3: But is that what? Speaker 2: reason. The uratel is Cody went out Speaker 5: And this distribution of this file is illegal. it breaks ITAR. Then a month later he posted on his website. So he literally goes from saying, distributing this file is illegal to posting the file on his Speaker 4: Correct. - I'm not gonna correct me here, but I think-- - Oh yeah, I am. - Does it work on it? Speaker 2: that you're not going to be wrong because if the if the Speaker 5: point. and pointing out Speaker 4: you know, Speaker 2: if Cody decided to be such a nigger cunt I'm literally done with you all. Speaker 4: and I know you're Speaker 2: got some blinders and some Cody dick sucking. Yeah. Speaker 3: I like Speaker 4: That one's pretty plain. Thank you. We love sucking Cody. I think what Cody is doing right now, personally, I'm not like we don't, once again, isn't on speed now. But from the outside looking in, what it looks to me like Speaker 3: for Tad at this point. It's two trust fund cases. - We're all paid kids fighting each other law. That's what it looks like to me. The uratile development was an Aussie and a catalog joint release. Speaker 4: Y'all got dogs at this spot too. No, not at all. don't have no dogs in this fight as far as I know. You can ask V8 about it but I don't think... Aussie personally... your own beta rooms were involved with this. - I was not in those beta rooms, so I wouldn't know. Personally, I wouldn't know. Speaker 2: - We love your accent, man. Like it's-- Speaker 3: the development of this gun so but this is all just saying retarded it is retarded it's trivial What, so we're, - Fucking we're out here debating Speaker 4: this was I tar or whether was illegal or maybe it wasn't illegal. Speaker 3: Maybe it was perfectly fine. This tit for tat. Speaker 5: you're going to go claim it's illegal. And then you post it a month later. Like you just look like a retard. Speaker 4: Bruh, I'm not Cody Y'all don't get this - Listen, I mean, I understand. - We hate him so much. Speaker 2: - That's valuable because he's a fucker. Speaker 3: - I will probably, agree with you that Speaker 4: Some of the things he does is very different. But, but there's that but. It's not for no reason. You know? this is all a buildup, you know, at least from my point of view, from my point of view, Speaker 3: All this was a buildup. Speaker 4: not, I'm not. on why all these things Speaker 3: I'd love to hear it. I do like hearing other opinions. Speaker 4: basically really start this hate. I already knew of Cody's bullshit, but this, Faggotry for me started when the urital all of that and Speaker 3: so I wouldn't know. How did it start? How did it start in your mind? From the outside, I've been around Speaker 4: while, but I haven't, you know, every little argument, every little thing that happened. But from the outside, well, I guess I'm not on that. know, watching things that I'll, Speaker 3: look back and Speaker 4: in the timeline. I wasn't there with when they were working with Cody Wilson. And nobody will ever know what really happened there. It seems to me that someone got butthurt in this little partnership or whatever they had going. I'm not sure exactly what they had going. It looked like somebody got butthurt and this. Speaker 3: It all just spiraled from there. And you got the catalog, the upper echelon in the catalog, just hammering home pedophile. Speaker 5: Pedophile, pedophilogy. Speaker 3: - Super day. - And it all just spiraled from there Speaker 4: Now you have the lawsuit. Wasn't a DMCA notice takedown on the Amigo Grande? way before then, man. Speaker 3: I think I've got screenshots because I was doing research for a little bit. where the catalog or DD to whatever you want to call them like actually has def cad on their website like they are advertising for DefCAD. They were... Speaker 4: They were partners. No, I don't want to I don't want to give specifics because I'm not 100% but a lot of them request Speaker 3: uh Speaker 4: I'm acting like there was a bunch of them. A few of them requested, you know, that they get their crypto addresses put on their DEFCAD profile. And you know, they were, as far as I know, that had personal donation addresses on their profiles. is they were all friends. They were all working together. before and after Cody's, we'll say legal trouble. Speaker 2: Thank you. Speaker 4: point is is that it didn't just start from this little you know copy right bullshit this has been going on for a while and this copyright it is is bullshit. the raw thing. Speaker 3: that you got going on. And by the way, who takes the payout for the Aussie DefCAD account? Speaker 4: Dune. Because I know Joseph hasn't got it. Joseph? You're talking about the parrot? Speaker 2: - Wait, you can Speaker 4: the rubber thing. I don't think we heard you. Oh, I think you did, but. Are you sure? Yeah, because my question is don't feed Like, who's getting the payout from what? You're done. Speaker 2: - No, like I don't wanna be disrespectful. I totally respect all the differing opinions but we want to let some other people on and get some also, like, other shit. I'll just say real quick. I know exactly what he's talking about. Speaker 3: but I don't know if Speaker 2: an open thing we can talk about, that's a VA question. Speaker 3: That's a VA question. But all in all, the way I see it, it's very ethical the way that he's got it set up. Speaker 4: That's awesome. This is why you don't reach across the aisle. I'm not educated on this topic - Like I was trying to tell you I'm here in the community, but I'm not here. know every little fucking thing. I don't, me and coach, campfire jerking. Speaker 3: - I think we did, but. Speaker 4: that's not I don't know the internet. Speaker 3: I wasn't even in the Eru Tao room, I don't think. Maybe I joined it, but I don't think I ever, I can't Speaker 2: yeah it's a lot it's definitely a lot who can fuck want to run this too late. That's another I kicked him off like we appreciate everybody's opinions. We just don't Speaker 4: Honestly, like I'm not trying to, you know, one in for the boys. I really wanted to... I like to hear different opinions. Speaker 3: why you're for, why you're against. Speaker 4: helps me form my opinions. Speaker 3: I'm just here to pee and butt. Speaker 4: What about P.M. Buds? Dobby just wants to show balls Yeah, this one P.M. Buds Speaker 2: - What's up? - Dude, you're fucking a lair. falls under AGs. - I don't post balls. - Somebody posted balls. Speaker 1: Someone don't post me. Speaker 2: - He might be. Speaker 5: Lovely. Speaker 1: - I'm not gonna. Speaker 4: - No, I mean, hey, thumb picks. - I'll pin it, I'll pin it. - Here's the question, where did come from? Where did Where did he come from? one. Yeah. Dobby, Juan, Kenobi. Okay. Where did you come from? What is the Speaker 3: Are you a... Speaker 4: plant or where? No, I stopped a long I started at the very beginning. I've been doing Speaker 5: 3D printing for a long time. Speaker 3: So, had a gap and then started back into it and here i am you just totally dodged that quest Speaker 4: and where did you come from, sir? - Where did I come from? Speaker 3: Where'd you come from, Cotton Eye Joe? Speaker 4: - Sure. - Like, Speaker 3: Like what group were you in the catalog? I mean, admittedly, I started. I haven't been in any group. Really? No, no group whatsoever. I'm very neutral. Neutral. That's. for like a whole... Speaker 1: - Ew. Speaker 3: So, and very few things I've posted on obviously have been Speaker 4: Very limited don't care. Speaker 1: uh yeah Speaker 4: Not really. It's fun to watch. Speaker 3: Exactly. See, you can sit back and watch. Yeah, but, you know, as an admin to your little shit shows, but yeah. I'm sorry. I mean, it does, if anything, it makes it interesting. Speaker 4: I have my own opinions. You know my opinions. Yeah, I don't like, I don't like, though, to be honest, I'm a little softy. I might talk a lot of shit, but I am. Speaker 3: I do think about on the internet's feelings sometimes like a bitch that's like no that's Speaker 2: like we're all human and you know social media dehumanizing Speaker 3: Sometimes I do. I don't like Like, decimal. Like, he seems like a person. dude could be a plant. He could be watching me, For the most part, he seems like a cool dude. So when I'm like talking shit... I feel like it's like - No, I'm sitting here talking to Shannon experts all day, Speaker 4: He's a complete homo. Fucking meth head. Speaker 3: He's out there sucking dick. Speaker 4: Sucking dicks for the show. Speaker 2: Sucking dicks with glass. X versus the man, bro. He's cool. He's cool. No, he's got gorillas. He's got gorillas. Speaker 4: Yeah. Don't let him think he's cool. He's cool sometimes. Where did X-Verse even come from? Like, he just came out of left field. Speaker 2: He's my dad. He's my second dad. I have two dads. They're in love with each other. There's like four dads now. Speaker 4: And, you know, that's another fucked up thing we never touched base on. What, why does it matter? so much what our real life relationship is. Speaker 2: the angle that they can take. they can target you on like it when it gets It's just like whatever little chick you can find like, you know, Speaker 4: these people like that, like that's what Speaker 2: for. They don't care about rational arguments or anything. for the memes, man. For real? Like, bro, we're just trying to jack off eat chicken and shit and they're over here Speaker 3: Oh, we found Speaker 1: - Good to meet you. Speaker 3: some Joella's hot chicken. Speaker 1: - Aw, bruh. Speaker 2: So good. Speaker 3: What really is fucking whole doxing. Like, how in the fuck can you go on rants about Cody and all Okay, I can't, you dox me. Speaker 4: grown ass man but you come after zoopy yeah what the hell some e-girl on the internet what did i do bro like i'm sorry like my ams don't Speaker 2: I don't know shit. deserve to be dogs. Speaker 3: Now I'm going to be a dox. I don't know. I really don't know how Speaker 4: how he docks me. I don't know. terrible for me because I was a dumbass at some point it bad dragon how dare you how dare you Speaker 5: Fucking bad dragon. Speaker 1: And Speaker 4: Bad Dragon Dicks got me doxxed. I'm about to buy one now. Right now and post it and give a review on it. Fuck you guys. No joke, Bad Dragon is like buying a Toyota. Like, they don't, like, Speaker 3: That is the only piece of art that doesn't devalue. Why are they so expensive? Speaker 2: What do you mean they don't devalue? Are people reselling them after they... They're $80, bro, for a tentacle? Speaker 4: smallest and like... Speaker 2: 130, 150, that's crazy. 180? 200? Speaker 3: don't they don't devalue much I think though I do remember because I But to this day, I bought this thing and I was like, And then I got on Reddit Speaker 4: shit, there's fucking whole communities Speaker 3: resell them like they just trade them Speaker 4: and forth and shit. I think I sold that thing for as much I think. Speaker 1: That, that, that. Speaker 4: Sex toys. There's something about that. Speaker 3: it's crazy. The one I bought was unopened. So... Speaker 4: I think I probably got a little more for it. I don't know. I got to look. But the other thing that they found, like the VaporA, in my mind because I don't even remember - I'm not sure that that's me. Oh, I know who the weird stock is. Is it Jiny? I'm not gonna publicly say it. Bro, publicly say it. Fuck them. you got receipts and we know the proper people to send the authorities to. And that's the only reason why Speaker 3: Please. Somebody please. I live in a stained your ground state. Yeah, I do too. - I do too. What really spooked me was the... the ms 13 comment because around here dude right up 13 hit somebody like, Speaker 4: No jokes like two stop signs. Not a coincidence. Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just saying we got MS 13 around here. Speaker 4: Right down the fucking street. spooked me and ain't around this hood play about that shit. Yeah. Get a knife. Speaker 1: your booty hoe. Decimal wants to speak guys. Speaker 4: well let him on I don't know if it's I don't Speaker 2: I don't know what his username is. Speaker 4: Decimal. Like literally it says decimal. I'm doing my best here. I'm a boomer when it comes to spaces. Decimal when you speak. Speaker 3: you talk about Speaker 2: I'm meeting my cat. Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying. You know? Yeah, everybody try not to speak it Speaker 2: try to keep All right, Dustin. Speaker 1: I think I... Speaker 2: I don't think I'd invite the are you if you're talking spaces is weird it does that to everybody i feel like yeah you got to click the mic Speaker 4: Bruh, the little mic, it's just... Speaker 2: He's trying. on his end. You guys make sure you follow my kick. Speaker 4: live every day. Oh, there. I think it works. We just can't hear him. He's almost there. what the fuck is this I'm proud of myself I haven't I haven't talked about a certain... The earth sucks, digs in hell. I did say dicks, I think. Well, I hear myself on Zoopy's stream, but no, Speaker 2: audio, give me a minute. We can hear you here. Speaker 1: No. Speaker 2: Oh, shit. Thank you. and technical difficulties, but that's okay. Speaker 4: - What happened Elon, dude? Speaker 5: dude. Speaker 2: I'm going to throw. Taco clock was a perfect Speaker 3: name for this. Oh, you spurred, bro. you Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm giving it back to him. Speaker 2: - Okay. NX versus NX. Speaker 3: Wait, wait, you have a YouTube channel? Speaker 1: I'm going to link it on my kick right now. Speaker 3: you got more views than Speaker 2: - Speaker 4: Okay, well, I'm figuring this out. Speaker 5: the next person on Speaker 3: tomorrow. Wait, Xverse? Speaker 4: - In Israel? No. Speaker 3: What does he have a place down here? Speaker 4: No, I don't know. But I'm going to go up there and beat Fucking Canadians. Speaker 2: - *sad music* Speaker 1: having some issues. Speaker 2: I heard that. Speaker 4: It's a real woman. Oh, my God. probably like, oh my God. - That's my dad. - Could be. Speaker 1: Decimal wants to know, Shut up. Speaker 2: build with this M11 kit and advertise his catalog betas. I don't know. I probably read that wrong. He said, this shit's annoying. I just want to know what I should build with this M11 kit and advertise catalog betas that's why I said in my Speaker 4: This shit's annoying. I just want to know what I want. Mac 11 kit and advertise my betas. Oh, okay. Speaker 2: He's got it. and doesn't know what to build with it. And then he also wants to buy Speaker 4: is that he's running. Oh, my God. up? Not really, kind Maybe, but he's nice. Speaker 2: He says he can't hear anybody through Twitter. So that's kind of why I'm Speaker 4: - What should he build with his Mac 11 kit? I don't. any fucking Macs. Thank you. Speaker 3: that I never released. There you go. Something different. Something different and tested - Yeah. Speaker 2: because I have all the parts printed. I have the barrel I just haven't put it together and shot it Speaker 4: - It's like Mac. Speaker 3: There's so many Mac lowers and everybody's got, Aussies got one. Does the BLC have one? I'm pretty sure. Speaker 4: I got one. Gatalog's probably got. Super save fucking DV alloy. Speaker 2: the Mac 11 right now, but my AMS is Speaker 1: DBL. Speaker 2: Anybody else having issues with the AMS? My AMS, yeah. Just doing that shit? My cable, like it, is it like blinking red on all the... - No, like it'll blink red on the one it's trying to load. Sometimes it'll pull it back push it in and then other times it just totally jams is it giving you an error code No, it's last time it clogged and it was just, it just said the extruder is not extruding normally. That's what it told me. And I'm like, okay. - Okay, so I've had that problem. There's two things that it could be. One, that it probably is. I'm not discounting anything else. So there's either a piece of filament or debris or something in PTFE tube that's that feeds into the main one. which I've had, mine was actually, I had a little metal shaving embedded Speaker 3: came from, but it was catching the film and it Speaker 2: So that's something you can check. Also, the extruder motor at the front of each slot has this little, like, spring piece in it. And if that wears out, basically jams itself up. It's like the thing that Speaker 1: Um, Speaker 4: stops it from Speaker 2: back feeding when it doesn't want it to. there's a little motor that controls Speaker 3: But anyways, it's like a flat, Speaker 2: in there that if it loose or disloyal. AMS just won't feed from the slot. And you have to take the whole little assembly apart and then re-bend it and put it back together. videos on YouTube on how to take the extra part and like how the spring flies off and shit. I'm kind of scared. - It's a pain in the ass. - I think I didn't feel that well, done right now and I usually go for DORAMIC 3D but they had some cool colors and I wanted to do regretting it. Yeah, I would explore every other option for us before you take the extra your part um Speaker 4: Bring it on PA6 and paint that shit. Speaker 2: I'm going to try to print it back in the other colors that work because I think I got through 20 hours of the print before it just you know jammed up and I got clothed I was so upset it looks so good Speaker 1: if you guys are in my kick right now, I'm just gonna Speaker 4: - Oh good. Speaker 2: upset when I had to stop it, but I'm gonna try to print it in the purple and cyan and just leave out the magenta. Speaker 1: the what is it PTFE I keep saying PTF for some reason. Speaker 4: Yeah. all the people that got raided and everything. Speaker 3: were talking about that earlier like I get Speaker 4: I don't think it's good that people are dogging on Unseen and other people because I don't know. I think that that's going to make... Nobody's gonna fucking tell it, tell anyone if they got. Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think Unseen got like a lot of crazy charges like everybody in Arizona Speaker 4: Everybody in Arizona got that was Speaker 3: popping off pretty hard. into detail, but everything I've looked up, you know what, we got like at least three to four people - Yeah. bad was it? I haven't seen guys slap on the hands. his shit back. Speaker 4: And I mean, he's a big Speaker 3: Ohio and we all seen how Ohio detail where, you know, unseen is at, but where he's at, like, y'all seen where Howa Ohio treats ATF. So, I mean, it's a little weird. But he, from what I hear, he's going to get his shit back. We'll see what happens. I mean, it's fucked up. But the people in Arizona are Speaker 1: what does it say? Speaker 3: That's crazy. Speaker 4: left wing skater. It's getting there. It's getting there. Really fucking fast. All the people moving from Cali Arizona, I guess. Yeah, big problem. Colorado was first. Speaker 1: and Err is doing Speaker 3: is second, Nevada will be third. You mark my word. J.C. arms. I just saw that. I mean, let's not get political, but I mean, back to the topic. That's what happened. I mean, everything in Arizona. I just hate to see people getting dogged. I seen like like the catalog is is like fucking I. I. I'm using generalization with the catalog but they're like oh yeah fucking free my boy, blah, blah, blah. He's cool. He got rated, you know, but he's okay. He's not everybody else that just got in trouble, they're all fucking feds and working undercover to narc everybody out now. So it's, yeah. It's crazy. Well, I don't know. Speaker 4: like I said, stolen boy. his fucking mouth anyway, so... Speaker 3: I get the whole stolen boy thing. Speaker 4: filled me in on it. I think it was you. Yeah, I ain't gonna go any further than that, but yeah. I mean, Aaron-- talk shit, he might be a good guy, you know? Probably not. Speaker 3: Probably not. Speaker 5: is Speaker 1: She should go sideways real fast. Speaker 5: - Next. Speaker 4: Lexi is in the house. house how long has has that person been here they've been here the whole time No shit. And JC Arms all in the same place? You think they're shaking hands right now in the virtual space? I don't know. I don't. I don't know. Speaker 2: - I don't know nothing about that. Speaker 1: - I have a Jason. Speaker 4: - Holy shit. - Oh yeah. - Wait, JC's not home? Speaker 3: JC, Dak. Speaker 4: People forget JC arms is the very Speaker 1: guy to have a 16-inch mat. Speaker 2: - Yeah. Speaker 4: Yeah. Like I said earlier, I still haven't Speaker 2: But it looks really good. Speaker 4: Yeah, I have best, best bullets I've ever got. Thank you. Speaker 3: in the world from A-V-E-S. Oh yeah, those are great, right? Speaker 5: Thank you. Speaker 1: I'm back. Speaker 2: So. Speaker 4: and a fucking zip. I'm going to hop in here now. Speaker 1: Decimal in the chat. Speaker 2: - Showing off my JC arms. Speaker 4: That's a sick thing. Speaker 3: That is dope. It's weird, though. Speaker 4: looks cool and dcarms.com i love mine but sorry you go ahead we love it I love yours, but you know, needs it's needs. maybe some M-Lok underneath it, you know, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. You can get like, and like get one of the clamp and walks and put whatever handcrafts You want it. You know what I mean? Yeah. 3D print some accessories and make it in lock for sure. You know, that's the thing. Speaker 5: in my eyes. Speaker 3: is like out of all platforms that barrel what goes like two and three quarter inch inside Speaker 4: so you're like sucking it up. I don't know. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3: So It's like one of the few firearms that you can get away with that. Speaker 4: Okay, JC Arms is not mad at you anymore. Who, me? No, Zoopy. I spent a lot of money with that motherfucker. Speaker 2: college it sucks so simon kicks your ass i'm back in the community now trying to fix my printer and get this mac 11 build up and running jammed Speaker 4: wants to talk. Who's Jambo 212? for me. how long have you been Speaker 2: Two hours and 14 minutes. Speaker 3: hours and 14 minutes. Might as well go to 2:30, let Jambo talk. Figure out who the Jambo Speaker 2: Okay guys, yeah, we're gonna go to Speaker 1: - Speaker 2: We'll go for math. until it hits two hours and 30 minutes. Speaker 4: We're going to go to math. Speaker 2: - Gambo. scared to let you on. Speaker 3: He's going to Speaker 1: I'm gonna mute kick just so Speaker 2: Just in case we'll let you in brother. Speaker 1: I think this is Jambo built GZ maybe. Speaker 2: . We'll see if it works or not. You can now speak. Why am I low key? Oh, wrong person, wrong person. HMFC. Okay. I just Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: Sorry. Speaker 2: speaker now too brother. We're gonna let Fraser Speaker 5: Thank you. Speaker 2: So Frazier HMFC is Jambo. Hey, Zoopy. Speaker 4: up with uh are we which part uh did they like block you like what's all up with that Speaker 2: and everybody was mad about it. Yeah they blocked other people, they didn't block Are you talking about the graphics? Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that on here. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: blocked a few others and the people were saying they didn't know why. They didn't block me. Speaker 4: - Yeah. any questions or they'd like to make. I invited them to speak too. They, them, Speaker 1: - I don't know what that is. Speaker 5: Hello? - Yes. We can. Okay, I have no idea what you guys are doing. I'm in America, so... Speaker 2: I'm very confused to what the conversation is about. Sorry, can you repeat what you just said? Speaker 5: in quite a minute. Is this X-verse? No. I apologize. I'm very confused to what you guys are talking about. drama. Oh, okay, because I'm not from or anything. Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. a bunch of 3D printed gun Speaker 4: from the community, but you know, welcome. - Yeah, no, he, is that an - They're Scottish accent. - It's awesome, whatever it is. - It's Scottish, yes it's Scottish. Speaker 5: I have guns. Oh, shit. No shit. Speaker 4: like in Scotland. Very, very strict. Speaker 3: I'm assuming you guys can't 3D print your guns? No. - What largest caliber you guys can have? Speaker 2: - Me personally, I saw like the Speaker 5: shotgun. It seems ridiculous, but I don't really ken the calibre of the weapon. So say... cleat pigeon shooting. Speaker 2: That's like the highest Thank you. Speaker 3: totally banned in Scotland. So you need a firearms license and you need to be a farmer. Oh, so they're totally banned. You got to be a farmer and have a license. Speaker 5: You just need a license. You don't have to Speaker 4: that you can Speaker 5: Clay pigeon shooting, I believe. 100% like knowledgeable on like the Speaker 4: whole gun thing. Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 4: use them for self-defense. for sporting. Speaker 5: open caddy. We cannot have a... Speaker 4: or you know what I mean? This is my dad. Can you defend your home with him? like... If you're a farmer, yes. If you own land, yes. But, like, say if you just own, like, a Speaker 5: So, Speaker 4: Nice. Because I'm able to feed. Speaker 3: speak. Oh, Speaker 4: Interesting. Yeah. No, we got, would you like, we got away. I came across you guys. Speaker 2: I found X when I got home from drinking in the club and you guys popped up. Welcome, brother. Thanks for coming in. Speaker 4: on to stolen thank you man guys you too we're gonna Speaker 2: some boys in here. of some speakers just so it doesn't get like overly um here everybody please stay respectful shit talking's permitted but no threats here we go stolen boy studio in the house and if we run in circles too long i'll also mute sorry to be a dick but i gotta be what's up stolen what's up guys i saw my name Speaker 4: I figured I'd hop in here and see if you guys wanted any information or anything. Sure. Speak. Talk. Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know really too much what to say. I didn't explain what's happening. So basically we got all of the print depot got raided on the 15th. Me and my two co-defendants, SCSM and Doc from my group, were all taken to four. which is the federal holding facility. We were booked in overnight Speaker 4: went and saw the judge in the morning. The judge released all three of us on pretrial services. I don't know if I can turn on a camera or anything on here, I've got all my paperwork right here in front of me if anyone wants to see it. Speaker 2: relief conditions and all that. I know a lot of people have been running around accusing me of this, this, was true. My charges don't reflect that. My charges are currently one felon in possession of a firearm, possession of an unregistered firearm, which my state nor the feds don't require registration. The version of a machine gun. The machine gun in question was my Chris Vector. It wasn't, you know, anything like a super safety, a Glock switch, anything like that. That's all right there on black and white. But yeah, I mean... Speaker 3: That's basically what it was. Speaker 2: It was mainly my social media posts that had gotten me. Because I'm sure if any of you guys know who I am, I posted all my stuff on social media. Speaker 4: I don't really care. Speaker 2: is mainly what got them on me. Speaker 4: I had had a case about 11 years Speaker 2: was supposed to have my felony Speaker 4: So I've been under the impression that I've Speaker 2: for the past, you know, 11 years come to find out I was, but yeah, I mean, other than that, Speaker 4: I don't know too much more what I can say, but I mean, if you guys have questions, I don't, I don't mind answering anything you guys want to know. Bruh, I thought she was black. I've grown up hot. Speaker 2: that's what I mean Speaker 3: I'm fucking shocked, man. Speaker 4: I do have a question. So what, why are you a felon? Like, you don't have to answer that. We're fucking strangers on the internet. My original charge way back in the day was false imprisonment. It's basically kidnapping, but you don't move them. I basically had told somebody I'm not going to let them leave until I get an explanation, and that's a felony. But was it your mom, bro? No, it was my ex. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So you got in a heated argument with your... Well, she had cheated on me, and then I moved states, and then it didn't work. into my original. And I was like, well, you know, about your boyfriend. She says, she told me that he said it wasn't his place to say yes or no. So then I moved in and two days later, she texts me, don't come back to my house. He said, you can't live here. Like, so what the fuck? Either you lied to me before you're lying to me or you told him something to change his mind and i just wanted an explanation that's all it was i never put my hands on her you know i never restricted her movement anything like that that sucks yeah it was a shitty situation but um that being said the ninth situation over the entire West Coast, including Arizona, made a ruling Speaker 5: March 24th, I believe it was. Speaker 4: USV Duarte, they ruled that nonviolent felons are legally protected by the Second Amendment and are allowed to own firearms. So that's going to play into my defense as well as the Fed or the state not requiring registration. that charge is going to get Speaker 1: well and I really just have to fight one machine gun charge. Speaker 4: And what exactly comes along with one machine gun charge? - What are you facing? - So I've only had my initial arraignment as far as court goes, which is just, you know, your court date of them officially charging You know, they've brought in every... Speaker 2: correct, whatever. My next court date's more than Speaker 3: But yeah. Okay. I'm curious as a no, like, Speaker 4: I'm assuming you can this vector yourself. I mean, you don't, again, you don't have to answer. Well, there you go. Yeah. I mean, it is what it is. It's already out there. So, and I, it's like, I, I don't have shit to hide. Have you learned No. Don't, dude. So, if you guys want to... Speaker 3: Yes, he has learned his lesson. Speaker 4: - I'm glad we're laughing about that. Speaker 1: any communication with Speaker 2: my other co-defendant because we are co-defendant. Speaker 4: them so i don't know oh shit yeah god i don't that's that's coincidental i'm just saying that's crazy well i mean i can show right here on on my release conditions that we're not allowed to have uh any conversation with co-defendants all right that's understandable yeah Speaker 3: I hope you beat it. Speaker 4: man. I hope you beat it. Yeah, I mean... But at the same time, I knew the game I was playing. You know what I mean? I can't be mad Speaker 2: I can't blame anybody or anybody. wasn't meant to be posted and everything. So it's not like you said, if I learned my lesson, it's like I knew the lesson before I even started it. There wasn't much to learn. It's just I genuinely didn't care. Speaker 4: all. Yeah, exactly. Learn from my mistake. Speaker 3: I mean, unless unless you like Speaker 4: prison. Speaker 3: for lawyers, I guess. Speaker 4: - Yeah. Speaker 2: - Well, one of my local buddies Speaker 4: He's a federal gun case. Speaker 2: actually a machine gun case and his all the way down to two years in Speaker 4: If I got a dude to do But that is federal prison, right? Yeah. Fuck. For real. being at least enjoy it while you can i guess live it up learned your lesson. I probably won't post stuff anymore. Yeah, that, hey. - Stop posting shit. Posting crimes, people. That's the thing People have been telling me that for two years Because I've been posting for two years It's like I knew what I was getting into You know what I mean? insane. That's why we started this out. We started this out by saying, don't you know Speaker 2: - And I'll still preach that to don't follow. Speaker 1: There you go. Speaker 3: I don't, I never messed with the whole 3d printed suppressors. I never messed. I don't even fuck with the super safeties, even though people say, Oh yeah, legal, but yeah, it's, it's legal. they say it's not and depending on who you Speaker 4: you could get a knock at the door. I don't want to fucking knock. I don't want to talk to these people. I'd just rather... I'm cool with my semi-auto. I got earmuffs, bro. Right? Yeah. So as far as the super safeties go between me and the six other people that were raided, I, About half of us got told they're okay. half of us got told they're not. So we don't really know what to believe on that one. - And that's my problem. And that's what I've been saying all along. Speaker 3: it may be not the ATF agent you have to convince, but what about the the your local police Speaker 4: Like, they're not going to understand most of them. Speaker 3: how it works. Yeah, they do. Speaker 4: - Thank you. 'cause I got sheriff's departments at this straight up putting them in their guns dude no shit yeah yeah it's no shit anymore like they can't they can't put them in cage lockers under like their FFL like what is it their their trust within the police department they ain't gonna take them out anymore it's too expensive for it so they're putting them in their personal rifles now yeah are you on the west coast or east coast no i'm midwest midwest no shit yeah ad about them now super safety's ain't no show everybody knows about them it's dumb it's dumb everybody does business back to what I was saying, it's a state by state thing. Like it just depends on the state. Speaker 1: at and how severe you are. Speaker 3: I'd like to talk to some police what they say. Like, you know, that, that's what really spooks me. You're at the gun range or whatever. And some fud's like, Oh, that's, do you, you know, where's your, and then you got to explain to him. Yeah. Some Barney Fife that don't know his fucking elbows from his asshole. The sheriff on my range is straight up watch one run though. they don't care. Hey, that's badass. Well, it just depends on where you're at. Like I said, it's a state-by-state thing. ever get like clarification from the ATF a letter or anything. Speaker 4: There is a letter from Hoffman, but like I said, it's a state by state thing. So for instance, Florida. the multi-trigger action act or whatever the fuck Well, a lot of states will put into their law that you anything that increases the standard fire rate of the gun, which an FRT binary does. Yeah, that's like Florida, yeah. big one right now because you think of Florida you're like oh well they have all the the gun rights in the world just like Texas this is like no DeSantis but anyway that's fucking wild desantis signed that shit i thought he was pro-gun there's, you know, what kind of program are you? - Yeah. - Are you phone program? It just depends. It's a weird landscape depending on what state you're at. the other day and he was like, the Republicans are blocking the suppressor bill Speaker 3: I was like, dude, I told you. I fucking told you. It ain't going to happen. Yeah, and well, I mean, they're making a lot of money off of it. Right now, Form 1s are especially easy. what, a month? So, I mean, versus what, what they used to take by a year, year and a half. Speaker 4: Not e-forms, but you know, you're ready for form one, form fours. So now they're just making money hand over fibs. Yeah, Trump ain't going to let that happen. that makes a lot of sense maybe they'll start doing that with other things I also don't trust Pam Bondi to do anything useful in the DOJ. Nope. Exactly. Me too. Exactly. Well, especially with SBR shit, I really think we're going to start seeing like, and you're Speaker 3: Maybe the Fallen Boy can speak up for that one right there. are like braces. That was just like my biggest concern with this old rave. Speaker 4: So according to what I was told from the ATF, any brace, FRT, binary, anything like that, be sent to them for approval before it can be okay. So like, say somebody designs a 3D printed brace and If it's not been approved by the ATF, still come at you as if it's a talk. Well, this is where the line is grayed with me is so like, let's say Speaker 3: You take a J-Mac brace. It's a clone brace. Speaker 4: You know, as far as ATF approval, can they tell the difference? But they put it in such a general way that they can swing it into their favor with Yeah. That's why they keep things so general. in the information that they give that way, if they wanna change their mind later, they can. fall into that same category. Correct. Yay. So spend money on a brace that has, that comes along with an ATF letter of approval. Yeah. and crunched braces Speaker 2: right now. Speaker 4: I've, that's another thing I've never done because I'm - Good question. - Well, you know, you're approved braces, Watch your length of poll. As much bullish as I give experts here, Speaker 5: the length of pull for each. Speaker 4: forms sometimes. Speaker 2: Definitely watch that. But yeah, approve braces. What was your question, Zoop? If it, and this is totally a noob question, if it needs taxes on it, is it going to be a noob? I've never touched it. Okay, so what do you mean if it needs... Are you referring to like stocks? Yeah, like if it needs a tax on it or any of that, you can't 3D print it? Speaker 4: or the item that you're printed itself doesn't need the stamp, because you could Speaker 2: 16 inch and it would be perfectly fine regardless of if it's a brace or a stock so it really just Speaker 1: you're putting it on Speaker 2: Oh, okay. to get that clarified. We are running time though. It's like one in the morning for me right now. Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm about to get off. Speaker 2: to explain things to you guys. guys know what was going on hey i appreciate you coming in and speaking we really appreciate Speaker 4: Yeah. If you guys have any more questions or anything, feel free to reach out to me. Speaker 2: Anybody got any last final words before we end the session? Speaker 4: Reverend Lexi going to? Speaker 2: Nope. I invited them. They don't want to. Oh. They can text it, but they can't say it. There's a reason for that, boys. Speaker 3: like, you know, to address Speaker 4: doxing. issue. And I think and their names. Shelled peanuts is asking about what happened in Arizona. an unseen killer. You can go Speaker 2: on my Twitter and see that if you want. I don't feel that I need to really speak on it anymore than I already have. anything in Arizona, but he did get rated along with the rest of our group. Speaker 4: I just wanted to clear that up. - And he is in fact not a federal employer Yeah. - Fucking hell. Speaker 3: Everybody's a fan here. Speaker 4: Yeah, the best plan. things that weren't true. Speaker 2: and trying to put blame on other people of things that weren't true. Speaker 1: he was talking to the feds Speaker 4: the feds now. Speaker 3: - Well, all right. episode of show two. Wait, this is version two. Speaker 2: was when I had to restart it. I just named it version two. I'll let you close it out there, Zoopy. All right. Well, thanks so much to everybody who came out. Speaker 1: I feel like I've got to play some Chief Keefe again on the-- Speaker 2: just to cut it off. You know what we don't like guys? Snitches. We don't like snitches. We don't like bitches.