Did anyone handle that or shall I

Do what

Casual racism seems fun

We have the lepers colonoy now at least

Yeah and if were going to ban people for saying the N word then weve got a lot of punishment to dole out

tbqh

Lets not cross that bridge just yet

I mean, being racist is dumb and stupid but you guys make the rules

And hey, we don't have to ban people

They can just enjoy the shit channel :P

Yeah I know but ostensibly

Its the same thing

The general act of denying people access to the larger platform

via whatever means

Also Duster is indian so he cant be racist

I think thats how it works

I never said ban

But we’re not going to be letting people drop the n word in here or else that’ll really fuel the whole “this server is run by nazis” thing on the forums rn

Yeah really scared of that

Let supress speech so histronic morons think highly of us

!gdn_mute duster

Muted duster

He mostly posts on your server anyways

So it doesn’t matter and if anyone says anything we’ve handled it

Youve done Gods work here, FAT

Muting for being a racist asshole is the right thing to do anyway

but what about ironic racists?

ban edd for hanging out in the poe channel imo

M8

Two of us use it a lot

Have we destroyed any dead channels recently

I was gonna archive mhw

Because it isn't being used much now

Muting anyone for any reason outside spamming or being 100% obstructive is detestable

I still think we should rename anime_goons to politics for awhile

i will continue to mute people for using racist slurs here because regardless of what goons think, I do not want to read them nor listen to posters who use them

i dont care if he's indian or whatever

Then we need to change our rules @Tempus Thales

Don’t use my creed if you aren’t going to follow it

We can not suppress speech just because we don’t like it

That’s an EXTREMELY dangerous path to embark down

it's not even a permanent mute

It doesn’t matter

its a "dont be a fucking racist"

Why

Restrictions on speech are just as bad

if the answer isnt immediately obvious to you then i dont know what to tell you

If we start micromanaging where does it end

Don’t give me that

Argue your stance

are you seriously asking me to argue my stance on why racism is bad and that racist chat should not be allowed in this server

if anything imagine your boss walks up behind you while discord is open and he sees the n word float by on your screen

I don't think I've seen serious racist chat here

imagine how that will go

neither have i, but i did see the n word used by duster and i muted him for it

meh

And

Who the fuck cares

Don’t gag at gnats

Also that was a terrible analogy

Since my boss went on a 10 minute rant about Mexicans over breakfast

on the other hand i work for a giant german corporation that just fired some dude for posting a spicy meme about mexicans

its almost as if various people on this discord experience their daily life completely differently than someone else

what is true for you isnt going to be true for me even though we are both straight white dudes with a college education

That is very true

Conversely not everyone gives a shit about seeing ~muh casual racism~ so to limit their speech would be pointless

Unless someone is actively Klan recruiting or posting death to all blacks over and over again

Let’s stay out of it

Muting for the n word is always the first step in a very very dangerous path

So lets avoid t all together

Alrighty

I'm gonna step in here

Restricting speech for racism is hugely important

You can't let people be racist fucks

^^^

also,

There’s a difference in being an asshole and being “racist fucks”

And trying to label either way is dangerous

If you are using racist slurs you're a fuck

Wronf

Dead wrong

How?

Because words don’t matter

~MUH FREE SPEECH~

There it is

That's a stupid opinion and half the reason this current generation is fucked

Also free speech generally isn't even the right to speak freely

Dead wrong again

It's the most fucking misunderstood thing in the world

Maybe

But I’m using my definition

The fact remains that we cannot go down this path

Like free speech is that for political opinions and criticisms

Not to me

that's what it is legally

Free speech is being able to say what you want

And if people hate you fine

if your free speech is causing people to perpetuate the idea that one race is better than another then it is harmful to society and the greater good is to restrict that type of speech, especially in a privately owned discord server

But when people at the top start micromanaging this the problem

ALSO RACIAL SLURS ARE BANNABLE BY DISCORD

That’s not what these people are doing and you know it

and servers have been closed in the past for using them

You’re flat out lying

no im no

Yes you are

Saying a slur is not tantamount to supremacy

That’s insane

That’s batshit insane

discord can and will ban you for using racial slurs in their privately owned chat client and they will delete servers that use them everywhere

The only servers that have gotteb deleted where ACTUAL nazis

And I’m not talking about that

I’m debating your concept that somehow being a dick is equal to idk

Holocaust support

then lets not let people post like ACTUAL nazis and let racial slurs fly

Ok nobody is

'Organizing and participating in raids or other forms of harassment. Do not engage in or post content encouraging the harassment of individuals or communities. If someone is harassing you or your community, be proactive and block them immediately.'

There are 0 nazis here

Guess what is purposely vaguely worded

That rule is

ok cool then i will continue to mute people for using racial slurs

and i encourage mods to do the same

And I’ll unmute them

https://discordapp.com/guidelines

then i will make GDN automute them

As a server you have to follow these guidelines

^^^

Yeah and we do

Show me where a server or person has been banned for “casual racism”

It's very easy to take the one thing that I mentioned and for them to go 'racism is harassment'

Show me

the burden of proof isnt on edd lmao

Yes it is

He’s making a claim

Prove it

historically racist slurs have been banned by discord

Prove it

Also just saying

Doesn't american law have something about racism?

No

Supreme Cort recently ruled hate speech is protected

it says there is no exception to the first ammendment

but private organizations are allowed to punish for it still

which they can

Oh okay

But don’t

Unless you’re an actual Nazi

Well in Australia there are laws against racism

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelUSPress/comments/7cgsro/timewalker102getsbannedondiscordforracial/

Or doxxing people

yeah i grew up in australia and i was used to anti racism laws

What the duck is that

A picture of a watch?

idk

but hey wow theres the proof u requested

Compelling evidence to be sure

Proof of what

Someone owns a watch?

https://www.polygon.com/2017/8/18/16158706/discord-centipede-central-alt-right

Yes those are the actual nazis

That I mentioned

Remember that?

stop redirecting, i gave you proof of being banned for racist slurs

so lol

That actual Nazis get banned?

Thanjs

https://www.polygon.com/2017/8/18/16158706/discord-centipede-central-alt-right

whoops

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelUSPress/comments/7cgsro/timewalker102getsbannedondiscordforracial/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelUSPress/comments/7cgsro/timewalker102getsbannedondiscordforracial/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelUSPress/comments/7cgsro/timewalker102getsbannedondiscordforracial/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelUSPress/comments/7cgsro/timewalker102getsbannedondiscordforracial/

this guy is a pro csgo player

not a nazi

That’s a picture of a dudes watch

http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/cth/consol_act/rda1975202/s18c.html

http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/cth/consol_act/rda1975202/s18d.html

If you wanna read how it is in australia

I don’t care lmbo

tay you fucking retard stop being obtuse

I’m serious how is a picture of his watch proof amid ahythibg

https://www.reddit.com/r/WethePress/comments/7cdh4z/timewalker102getsbannedondiscordforracial/

Where’s an email?

This is the one you want

Or a ban message

Ok

Ok well yeah

He was harassing people

Duh

with racial slurs

Harassing

I said that earlier

you are purposefully ignoring the facts to perpetuate your own narrative

No I’m not

I’m stating the fact

He was harassing people

Either way

Either way

Being racist is dumb

We aren’t doing it

Maybe

But being dumb is a God given right

Depends what country you are in

The best one

i will continue to mute anyone who uses a racial slur in this server and i will write it into the goddamn bots to do it automatically if you remove them from being muted after i mute them

end of story

I’m going to fight you all the way on this

Also very specifically

The law is based on the california law

its not a frequent thing so get your panties out of your anus

You wont bring your draconian censorship into this discord while I’m admin

So what does the law say in California?

🙄

Fuck calu

Doesn't matter

Nothing supersedes the constitution

We have to go by their law

Nothing

Supercedes

It's in the fucking terms of service

You nong

lmao

Yeah to not harass people

You agreed to this shit

No

Don’t harass people and you’re find

https://discordapp.com/terms

Read the last term

If they banned for racism bro

taylor doesnt understand his own countries law and is getting brutally owned by two australians

Bro listen

incredible

This isn’t the law you dumbass

He’s literally quoting the tos

We have to go by US law

Stop self agrandizing

AND californian law

Which projects hate speech

you started saying nothing supercedes the first amendment

Sara scotus

Not either or

Per scotus

Also the reason we are particularly sensitive to racism

Is because it is a huge fucking problem in our country

And fuck, your country too(edited)

Lmbo

👌🏿

Sure pal

Regardless, I'm not gonna mute someone unless they're harassing someone and even then, I'll probably just post in here

I mean technically I should do something if someone violates the guidelines

That’s fine

That’s 100% in-line with what we should do

Harassment = bad
“Casual racism” = bad but not harassment bad

I guess it goes this way then

You should have no problem with them being reported directly to discord

Sure if y’all want

As a side note, I’ve only been able to have this wonderful parlay because my chicken biscuit ran right through me

And I’ve spent all morning on the can

Instead of working

🙏🏿

yeah my unit tests have been running so i have nothing to do but yell at u

But if someone does get banned for it, then what?

Then they’re gone

Problem not ours

discord bans are IP and machine based so

But wouldn't it mean there is precedent for the muting

that'll solve that

Let Discord hq be moral arbiters

Sure ok

yes that would be precedent, good point

Like I said

Don’t hold your breaths

Unless someone comes in and goes full 1488

Either way, as long as this server is never labelled as an alt right server it'll be fine

Which we’d ban anyways

Too late lmbo

Because anything close to alt right gets shut down by discord(edited)

Lol

You’re never going to appease Goons

whoops too late https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3842693&pagenumber=110#post482818616

Yeah lmbo

But it’s very clear we aren’t alt right

To anyone with half a brain

I mean I'm pretty sure the majority of the goons here are left

then they open your twitter and theyre like

Prob

Yeah my Twitter is a regular ol mein kampf(edited)

Between the anime tiddies and sports

Like all the political discussion in the PoE channel is all left aligned(edited)

My Twitter is gold

And you know it fat

So is your rapsheet ;)

No it’s sad

8 years with 1 probe

Sad!

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/shit-gold-pills/

Exactly

Either way, I don't agree with you and I'm perfectly happy to put that out there

wait did you see after your probe is done the permaban goes through?

Who said that

FAU

Nah he was talking about catboy

That’s not how it even works

He could perm me whenever

If he does it just proves me and my entire stance right

Guess we'll see anyway :P

I encourage it

I don’t post and it proves me right

That SA punishes wrong think

What are your personal views anyway?

That would spoil the fun

I’ll summarize it though

I mean are you a racist?

Tldr

Or rather do you discriminate against any groups of people?

No lmbo

Will you call people out for doing that?

If it’s egregious

I’ll tell you a funny story actually lmb

Here at lunch

Re: racism

they banned riso from wtt for being too racist so idk

Lmbo yeah

Banned the fuck outta him

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PANCAKES IN FOOD CHAT RISO

WE DINT CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU HATE MMUSLIMS

I’ll be at lunch in an hour we can continue

He was being racist in a food channel?

i think taylor likes to argue and he is super MUH FREE SPEECH MUH BILL OF RIGHTS and doesnt like republicans nor democrats

I'll be asleep

rip

I mean my stance is that everyone is stupid and people should realise that free speech is there for political ideas and criticisms

Not for people to dumbasses and say absolutely anything

That’s

Pretty on the nose fat

Super pro constitution

Everyone else is gay and dumb

Myself included

I figure the constitution is like the bible

like if you were a christian you would be one of the ones who is super THE OLD TESTAMENT STILL MATTERS REEEEE

Myself ESPECIALLY

WE STILL LIVE UNDER JEWISH LAW DONT WEAR MIXED FABRICS DONT EAT PORK OR SHRIMP

It was supposedly relevant when it was constructed

But it very much isn't now

Lmbo

Dead wrong

It’s just as important now

I mean good thing most countries have actual laws

Or we'd be boned

Or actual precedent for that matter

Fun fact

Australia doesn't even have free speech laws

Rip

Ya, RIP

It's implicit, not explicit

And only applies to political opinions

correct

That’s gay and dumb

Super gay, in fact

No, it is sensible

To you maybe

but u can be sued into oblivion by antidefamation laws like in the uk and canada which can be used by corps to do shitty stuff

But I’m perfectly content with muh 1st

Which is super no bueno

I hate corps ALMOST as much as I hate the government

Almost

the issue in america right now is that some people want to update the constitution to match the year 2018 because it's pretty out of date even if the concepts behind them are still viable, then there are those who feel that updating it is either a crime against the country or at least not a good idea since if it aint broke (in their opinion) dont fix it

Latter 100% correct

I mean American has been going downhill for years

And is getting less and less relevant

the entire western world is

white people are outnumbered by indians and chinese by significant margins and white people are scared of being a minority in the future

In the future

Bruh internationally we already are

i mean being a minority in the place that u currently live

Which is bad btw

Anyone being a minority in their own country is bad

Hth

thankfully america and australia and canada are cultural melting pots/mosaics

so its all good

Well

Ain’t gonna get into that

like the idiots consider me an american even though im an irish/norwegian person who grew up in norway and australia then moved to the states

talk about getting brutally owned

Close enough

Not really, in a lot of countries you probably wouldn't want to be considered american lol

"theyre gay and bad" - taylor

"america #1" - also taylor

Sure

I’m gay and bad but also #1

You're not \#1

technically china is #1

Or any of the 4 asian tigers

oh yeah we had the whole pro-globalism/pro-nationalism chat before in wtt

so i wont rehash everything in modchat

Nationalism real good hth tia god bless HH

plz dont be a jerk

What are your views on Neoliberalism?

neolibs are choking on the double dicks theyre trying to blow and neither side likes them

at least here in the states

Same

I hate all parties

Tbqh

I mean

And most ideaologies

It's an economic thing

Idk

neoliberalism fucks the poor slightly less and fucks the rich slightly more so nobody likes it

And is also the reason so many countries are currently successful lol

correct

its a step in the right direction

Either way, I'm gonna go sleep, have fun

Anyways story

I was selling an atv back in 2012 using the State Farm market paper

Terrapro

Yamaha model that had a mower attachment very niche piece of equipment

So I got a call and someone came and looked at it. Old white man with his wife

So he gets back there and hems and haws about it oh it’s not in ideal shape I’ve seen better

Lowballs me by 400$

So I politely decline and we walk back from my shop talking saying how he’s bought a bunch and their good

And he says “I wouldn’t trade one for a golden nigger”

Long story short I sold it to two black guys who paid asking price

Then came inside and bought an antique I had

My point being to edds original question re: suprememcy

Everyone sucks and is some permutation of fat dumb ugly and gay

I am not in the business of micro-managing shit.

I also think we have lost a ton of traffic. I knew as Discord got more popular and other people started spinning their own instances, we were going to be come less relevant, but the amouunt of traffic that gets redirected to other servers like some I am not going to mention is huge. I know I am not $100 bill to some goons, but that can't be just it.

We have over a 1000 acvtive people but we only have 20 people in traffic

I think I'm going to start consolidating game chats into PC, Console and mmogeneral

the chatrooms are pretty active as they are.

but other than those, we have lost a ton of gaming traffic.

just dont know what else to do to drive traffic here... I feel for the most part im the only one doing pretty much everything for the server... its getting tiresome

@Kimsemus used to be super active now he rarely participates. @IAmKale is never around, but he is never around anywhere not even in Nintengoons... so that is pretty normal. and @FAT32 SHAMER and @Taylor Swift all they do for the most part is bitch at each other and complain about who micro manages more or less.

rip

DO it

also, no one ever advertises this server

Last I checked it wasn't even on PGS front page

which was awhile ago, but still

I’m willing to do whatever

Tbqh

Just say the word

@Danith we have been waiting on the updates to GDN to add it again to PGS

but you know our main dev is awol and until that doesnt get updated we are sitting ducks.

and I know @Rejd is interested in taking over, but @IAmKale needs to make time to update GDN and then passover development if he doesnt want to work on it anymore.

I think part of the problem is that we created fractured servers for different games that have come out and nobody joins them because they aren't in the OP

yeah thats something that needs to get added to the Op

the new op at least.

we should just have everyone play games here with separate voice channels and stuff instead of fracturing into places like nintengoons

I'm not passing over development

Rejd can write their own if they want(edited)

:hellyeah:

I'll write one in powershell

GDN has been working fine

get riso to advertise this on 4chan

:sav:

it has when its up, but you know the library its using its super old.

@IAmKale if you are not passing over development then make some room to work on it...

or delegate development for people who want to help by adding commits and then you can merge them.

@FAT32 SHAMER I agree, so lets close Serious Overchill and bring all your people here.

lol im not the srsoc server owner, I just run the overwatch community

ok so bring the overwatch community here

its not that simple

you cannot just migrate a community that 1) finds this server to be full of retards 2)is embedded in the culture and community of the other server

like you wouldn't ask tay to bring the conan/rust community to WTT here

there is something to be said for differences in server cultures and how in some cases its for the best to keep them separate

I was going to do just that now.

lmao

@Taylor Swift bring rust/wtt to here.

done

>Rust

Yeah lemme bring all 2 of them

Also isnt me and mine the problem here

Per some people

the way I see it is WTT leans conservative, srsoc leans liberal, and this server acts as a middle ground where everyone can pile in and yell at each other

I know but it seems the rhetoric

WTT leans nothing

WTT is neutral

you know what I mean tho, the cultures clash regardless of whatever

Nobody from WTT clashes here

The only people that ever kick up shit are you and yours

But thats not the point

Awful is right, SRS and this discord are essentially the same

here we go.

🍿

Nah Im not gonna keep going

We all know the script, lets avoid it

In all seriousness I don't mind there are other servers out there.

I dont think the answer is to merge anything, (like that would ever happen) we are the middle ground, we are SA Live and thats what we need to get back to.

Everyone is allowed to spin whatever.

SRS can be left and whomeever can be right, this is not about politics

its about expression, with a certain modicum of control

yeah I get that

the strategy that we have been using is gearing up for a new game release, getting active in the thread or writing the OP, and making a category for it

from there smaller discords pop up and are added to the op so that people can always find other people to play with and nobody cares

So the question then is how do WE do that

And who does it

You cant

I cant

for us the users or mods come to us and be like "yo we wanna play fort nite" and if there are a bunch of them who are also down then we're like ok cool lets start the OP or post a link in the thread with an invite

Right but thats apples and oranges

I did it for a previous iteration of destiny 2 so technically we can

Youre talking about a group with an internal culture you can feed off of

we have kind of an internal culture here, its just much much smaller

MUCH smaller and not based on anything except shitposting

nah, that's just Riso and Danith

So the question is how to A. Re-engage existing people

B. Bring in new people

discordgoons.com

and we're self-affiliated with SA, so people will find their way here

do we want it to be an active community?

i guess we have to decide if we want to focus on being a networking solution

or a shitposting powerhouse

porque no los dos

then buff GDN usage because i dont see it in very many servers outside of the ones TT is involved in making

well if neither of us can make OPs to threads or advertise in existing threads with "hey a few of us are playing join this role to get pinged when we are" that leaves @Danith or some other poster to do it

which makes it hard to get fresh blood in here

We cant do it, TT cant really do it because hes not a boy scout either

Kim wont

Kale...? idk

Man really got a Murders Row of admins here

yeah

like unironically, i wonder if people join and see Taylor "White Nationalist" Swift, Tusen "Saturn Thread" Takk, and Tempus "Goonfucker" Thales and nope right out

Bruh

Thats what Ive been saying since forever

Im the LEAST contro person here

lmao

What does that say about us?

all goons are bad

its just we're all the worst

Wow we finally agree

btw your story earlier made me rethink some things about you

and since you are so confusing im sorry that i assume a great deal based on the things you say that are allegedly parody

hopefully we can stop yelling at each other about everything and just keep it about muting racists

Youre still gay

But so am I so

🤷🏿

at least i'm not Super Gay

Im on all the time