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feedback-discourse
Use this channel to discuss suggestions posted in the feedback channel
267 messages
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:34 PM
hmm
today this will be the second post here
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:34 PM
youfuck
Tay 13-Mar-19 12:34 PM
fourth
Pea Wea 13-Mar-19 12:34 PM
mlady
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:35 PM
le useless replacement has arrived
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 12:35 PM
Le youtube comments have arrived
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:35 PM
this channel exists only because nermal doesn’t like a single contributor in a discussion
never forget
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:35 PM
respecting lgbt people isn't a controversial thing you're allowed to take either side on, regardless
stop fucking pointing fingers at people
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:36 PM
how else am I supposed to react when someone has a vendetta against me
dogeLove 1
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:36 PM
if you're going to be a bigot you aren't allowed to be on this server, end of story
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:36 PM
genuine question
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:36 PM
not blame a mod for modding and saying it's because of you
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:36 PM
I don't think anyone is specifically saying we should ban talk about lgbt, what I think people are talking about is that we're not allowing said discussion at all
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:36 PM
the mod is the one...with the vendetta though
that’s the issue
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:36 PM
Misconstruing our words and saying end of story isn't an argument.
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:37 PM
again if everyone has the same opinion it's not a discussion, it's an echo chamber
and echo chambers kill servers
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:37 PM
who cares if it’s an echo chamber honestly
why does it matter
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:37 PM
^^^
he just said why doe
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:37 PM
banning hate speech isn't an echo chamber
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:37 PM
did you just point react your own post
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:37 PM
Yes
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
thinkdoge
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
because you said "why does it matter"
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
removing lgbt people sure sounds like an echo chamber to me
Mudkip 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
opinion discarded because of a react
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
and it's not happening
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
and I wasn't going to repeat it
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
No one said remove lgbt people
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
they did though
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
Where
And don't point out an ironic troll
Give me a real example
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:38 PM
uhh
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
Don't you dare post my out of context statement Demi.
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
Nermal himself wanted to vote on removing LGBT presence
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
cringe
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
A role?
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
Bruh you are so retarded
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
hmm
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
Mods insulting users they don’t like This is some real good discourse
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
again, if a bigot can still be civil then let well enough alone
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
If anyone wants actual context, there was a giant flamewar. I suggested in the mod voting channel to remove LGBT presence to clean up the server's drama.
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:39 PM
no, that's not how it works
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
define removing LGBTQ presence (edited)
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
bigots aren’t civil by definition
Pea Wea 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
so do you guys have fun jacking off to online chatroom drama all day
truetrue 5
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
yes
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
yes
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
"i really fucking hate black people because they're shit eating niggers but i wouldn't want to kill one"
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
that's not what I'm saying
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
@Miss Demi ❤ Keep the channels but remove the emotes because like 10 people were whining, but thats in the past and you keep bringing it up.
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
overexaggerated, since nobody ever gets that
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:40 PM
okay yeah
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:41 PM
@Zeemgeem it’ll happen once le ifunny brigade finds the server
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:41 PM
do you think they'll stop caring once the doge pride emotes are gone @nermal
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:41 PM
Do people still use ifunny? I imagine they're all on pics.me.me now
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:41 PM
absolutely not
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:41 PM
still, that would be an example of a place where the intention is used only for the purpose of targeting people and not actual discussion. I'm talk real opinions about real things.
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:41 PM
someone's still gonna cry because people were having a regular conversation about something they hate
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:42 PM
ironic
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:42 PM
which is why it gets brought up in feedback every 2 seconds
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:42 PM
You've tried to end this conversation several times because you hate it
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:42 PM
this argument is basically “you need to tolerate intolerance”
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:43 PM
i'm ending this conversation because we aren't fucking supporting bigotry
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:43 PM
well
yeah
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:43 PM
get over it or leave
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:43 PM
dogeThumbsUp
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:43 PM
You got a really low standard of bigotry dont you
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:43 PM
no one has to support bigotry, but out right silencing is unproductive. You never know when you can have an influence on people
positively or negatively (edited)
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:44 PM
Why is that our jobs
Why are you expecting people here to handhold
I don’t get it
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:44 PM
Apparently removing flag emotes that no one used is an example of such bigotry (edited)
Wait are you accusing us of handholding?
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:45 PM
you: "we need to keep all the pride emotes because representation" also you: "why are you saying that we have to tolerate people we don't agree with stop suggesting handholding"
don't go there
it's not worth losing the argument
mlady 2
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
so is your argument just “we should tolerate bigots”
Webb 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
What is this channel
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
I don’t follow
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
yes
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
@Webb useless
Webb 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
What
Ok
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
run
🏃
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
@Webb leave
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
we will continue to silence bigots and hate speech. end this discussion or im locking the channel
Webb 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
@QueenForPA no u
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
You can tolerate people to a certain extent
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:46 PM
@Webb I meant this channel, you’re fine otherwise
Webb 13-Mar-19 12:47 PM
K
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:47 PM
we don't tolerate people who act on their harmful biases, and we never will
Webb 13-Mar-19 12:47 PM
So who likes hamburgers
truetrue 2
thumbsupdoge 2
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:47 PM
this convo is over and it's not being changed.
don't joke in this channel, either
Webb 13-Mar-19 12:47 PM
What I just like them
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:47 PM
this channel has no reason to exist
Webb 13-Mar-19 12:47 PM
No joke
I especially like bacon on them
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:48 PM
discussion about things suggested in #feedback3 go here
Webb 13-Mar-19 12:48 PM
They are really delicious
Ok
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:48 PM
why not just use, uh, #feedback3
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:48 PM
so it doesnt get cluttered and so people can mute this channel
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:48 PM
Because debating opposition to feedback isn't feedback
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:49 PM
if they’re going to mute this channel what’s the point, just let them mute feedback3
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:49 PM
Theres no point
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:49 PM
I still can't find the trans doge posts
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:49 PM
Actual suggestions would be made there lol
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:50 PM
so the discussions should be kept isolated from the actual suggestions
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:50 PM
truetrue
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:50 PM
seems fragmented and mentally unfollowable at times
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:51 PM
As my last and final statement, you are becoming the one thing you swore to destroy. By becoming intolerant of people you disagree with and not allowing them to be here, then you are becoming just as good as said bigots. Intolerance is the same thing as ignorance. You are doing nothing but furthering the other sides agenda. You are your own inherency. The only way to get rid of said ignorance is to get rid of your own intolerance. That's how society works. Let's take a look at this video to help prove my point. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORp3q1Oaezw Why I, as a black man, attend KKK rallies. | Daryl Davis - YouTube
TEDx Talks
Why I, as a black man, attend KKK rallies. | Daryl Davis | TEDxNap...
A chance encounter with members of the Ku Klux Klan led black musician Daryl Davis on a quest to determine the source of the hate. His unorthodox, yet simple...
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:51 PM
Conflicting sides of the suggestion would be taken here.
Vao 13-Mar-19 12:51 PM
Thank you and goodbye
itdonotmatter 1
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:51 PM
so then #feedback3 becomes totally unreflective of the final result
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:51 PM
Uh no
thinkdoge
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:52 PM
now if the bot thing that whatsit just said in #feedback3 was in place I could understand
Miss Demi ❤ 13-Mar-19 12:52 PM
no thanks @Vao
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:52 PM
#feedback3 is the result
Pea Wea 13-Mar-19 12:52 PM
@Webb i like hamburgers
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:52 PM
so it goes suggest thing in feedback —> go here —> go back to feedback when you’re done
again, seems disconnected
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:53 PM
No
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:53 PM
it prevents clutter
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:54 PM
It goes feedback -> several people bitch -> move to discourse -> move back to feedback on final results
It only goes here when a lot of people are crying
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:54 PM
Prettymuch
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:54 PM
so....exactly what I said, then
Mia 13-Mar-19 12:54 PM
what do you guys think about my suggestion? #feedback3
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:54 PM
again, seems fragmented as hell
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:54 PM
Basically yeah, except its not for everything
Strangelove 13-Mar-19 12:54 PM
there’s a difference between a small discussion and a mini civil war
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:55 PM
>not for everything i’d buy that if people weren’t suggesting delete the pride emotes every 14 seconds
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:55 PM
Then suggestion: do you want feedback3 for small talk and a mod chooses to move you if it gets heated
@QueenForPA We just made that punishable
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:55 PM
True
Suggesting that it not be punishable is also punishable
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:56 PM
@Tay nah, otherwise other people can't see what we're talking about
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:56 PM
gundoge
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:56 PM
it was made punishable before but yall decided that made the person responsible a bad mod 💅
Tay 13-Mar-19 12:56 PM
@Zeemgeem why do people need to see
Glitch 13-Mar-19 12:56 PM
It kinda does?
Tay 13-Mar-19 12:56 PM
the feedback is for the mods
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:56 PM
so they can debate it here?
Tay 13-Mar-19 12:57 PM
idk I feel like it should be a mod decision (edited)
maybe mix mine and hat rats suggestions
turn off message history for #feedback3, if the mods see something they like then they put it in another channel where you vote
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 12:58 PM
@Mia do you know any bot that can do that?
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:58 PM
it’s literally called suggestions bot @Zeemgeem
Mia 13-Mar-19 12:58 PM
Uhh not yet.
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 12:58 PM
https://discordbots.org/bot/474051954998509571
Suggestions
The only suggestions bot you'll ever need. Simple usage and management of suggestions for public and staff use.
nermal 13-Mar-19 12:59 PM
>responsible
dogeconcern
Mia 13-Mar-19 01:00 PM
responsible?
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:00 PM
that’s the bot that they use in another server
the format for suggesting a message is slightly clunky out of the box
Mia 13-Mar-19 01:01 PM
I might even try to make a custom one thinkdoge
it doesnt need permissions anyway
Vao 13-Mar-19 01:01 PM
psst just turn this into a separate debate channel instead of a feedback channel and put it next to #serious
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:01 PM
I mean this one works fine
making a custom bot seems extremely extraneous
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:02 PM
Debate channel probably won't go down too well
Mia 13-Mar-19 01:02 PM
just saying
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:02 PM
Maybe a vent channel?
fucker 13-Mar-19 01:02 PM
debate channel would be a shitshow
i modded debate servers
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:02 PM
truetrue
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 01:02 PM
that could easily reult in people "venting" about each other
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:03 PM
eh true
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:03 PM
this already happens in #dogeneral
fucker 13-Mar-19 01:03 PM
any debate channel devolves into slurs and name calling garbage
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 01:03 PM
server is full of passive agressive jabs by babies already
truetrue 1
nermal 13-Mar-19 01:03 PM
passive
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 01:03 PM
we've had legitimate debates in #serious that kept mature
Mia 13-Mar-19 01:03 PM
so what do you guys think about this bot https://discordbots.org/bot/474051954998509571 I never tried it though (edited)
Suggestions
The only suggestions bot you'll ever need. Simple usage and management of suggestions for public and staff use.
nermal 13-Mar-19 01:03 PM
Oh true true
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 01:04 PM
making a channel called debate builds an atmosphere that suggests you can be a dickhead more than one called serious
fucker 13-Mar-19 01:04 PM
p much
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:04 PM
debate: what should I get for lunch today
fucker 13-Mar-19 01:04 PM
debate allows those with repugnant views to approach others on a level playing field they do not deserve
shit would quickly became debates about crime rates and other racist garbage
happened in a few other servers
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:05 PM
I mean dogeneral is that already
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 01:05 PM
im so fucking hungry actually
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:05 PM
@Zeemgeem i haven’t gotten out of bed yet; my lunch debate was not ironic
fucker 13-Mar-19 01:05 PM
in doge general i can post stupid shit to make people shut up
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 01:05 PM
anywway thatss a topic for #serious but i'd love to actually talk about that
fucker 13-Mar-19 01:05 PM
debate has the pretence of a serious channel
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 01:07 PM
but not a respectful one
SeparateDrip 13-Mar-19 01:13 PM
My only thing about this server is serious discussion in general
I don’t care about anything else
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 01:14 PM
it's gonna happen
if you wanted maximum degeneracy you go to #spam, serious stuff is in #serious and general chats are always in between
Goober 13-Mar-19 01:24 PM
As my last and final statement, you are becoming the one thing you swore to destroy. By becoming intolerant of people you disagree with and not allowing them to be here, then you are becoming just as good as said bigots. Intolerance is the same thing as ignorance. You are doing nothing but furthering the other sides agenda. You are your own inherency. The only way to get rid of said ignorance is to get rid of your own intolerance. That's how society works. Let's take a look at this video to help prove my point. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORp3q1Oaezw Why I, as a black man, attend KKK rallies. | Daryl Davis - YouTube
TEDx Talks
Why I, as a black man, attend KKK rallies. | Daryl Davis | TEDxNap...
A chance encounter with members of the Ku Klux Klan led black musician Daryl Davis on a quest to determine the source of the hate. His unorthodox, yet simple...
kirby (1 more day) 13-Mar-19 01:25 PM
Ok
Vakiadia 13-Mar-19 01:25 PM
tolerance of intolerance is unsustainable
it leads to the destruction of tolerance
Goober 13-Mar-19 01:27 PM
oh god oh fuck it was ironic please don't take it serious I was reposting what the dude up there was posting because posting something someone has already posted is really funny and you guys should all laugh and give me stars because I'm really funny and need validation please oh fuck
Zeemgeem 13-Mar-19 01:27 PM
As my last and final statement, you are becoming the one thing you swore to destroy. By becoming intolerant of people you disagree with and not allowing them to be here, then you are becoming just as good as said bigots. Intolerance is the same thing as ignorance. You are doing nothing but furthering the other sides agenda. You are your own inherency. The only way to get rid of said ignorance is to get rid of your own intolerance. That's how society works. Let's take a look at this video to help prove my point. https://youtu.be/fbw4agFHBlY clown on computer | clown - YouTube
Tokyo Anal Dynamine
clown on computer
clown on computer
ok joke over
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:29 PM
"tolerance of intolerance is unsustainable it leads to the destruction of tolerance" truetrue Just look at how Sharia Law is spreading in the west
Goober 13-Mar-19 01:29 PM
o h g o d o h f u c k
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:31 PM
is this irony @Glitch
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:31 PM
no
dogeconcern 8
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:33 PM
dogeconcern
.+|~| Mixiwa |~|+. 13-Mar-19 01:35 PM
banned
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:40 PM
to be fair I'm tolerant to the homophobic side of religions, but i'm not sure why you specifically pointed out muslims thinkdoge
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:44 PM
I wasn't just focusing on homophobia
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:45 PM
You were focusing on something alright
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:45 PM
Elaborate
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:47 PM
"Damn Muslims bringing homophobia and anti-women ideas into the soil of good Christians who follow the bible that totally doesn't say anything similar" 👀
The Quran has lots of passages about respecting women actually
or your women*
to be more specific
SeparateDrip 13-Mar-19 01:48 PM
F*males
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:48 PM
smugdoge
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:48 PM
I mean if Christianity was taking over the Western world I'd call them out on it
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:48 PM
And they aren't
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:48 PM
>believing muslims are taking over the world this is pretty cringe vro
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:49 PM
Tell me who's refusing to bake cakes because of their religious freedom
Goober 13-Mar-19 01:49 PM
MonkaMEGA le "discourse" has arrived
dogeconcern
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:49 PM
it ain't the atheist
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:49 PM
Who goes to a Christian baker for a gay cake dogeconcern
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:49 PM
and who's against women's right to abortion
halb 13-Mar-19 01:49 PM
last time i checked Christianity has already taken over the western world
truetrue 3
truetrue 3
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:50 PM
thing is, we're both picking the worst of each side
Glitch 13-Mar-19 01:50 PM
Let's compare the percentage of Christians then to the percentage of Christians now.. you know what this isn't the channel for this dm me if you want cringe
Vao 13-Mar-19 01:51 PM
just abolish religion so 45% of the worlds problems are gone
SeparateDrip 13-Mar-19 01:51 PM
ok
QueenForPA 13-Mar-19 01:51 PM
crimge
Goober 13-Mar-19 01:52 PM
abolishing it would just cause more problems tho...
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:52 PM
yea just kill the religious
then they can't complain
smugdoge
truetrue 5
Goober 13-Mar-19 01:53 PM
if you traveled back in time and prevented religion from ever happening, then yeah, the world would probably be a lot better place, but "abolishing" religion now would cause a hefty ruckus ngl
Vao 13-Mar-19 01:53 PM
well yeah
SeparateDrip 13-Mar-19 01:53 PM
Far cry 5 be like
Vao 13-Mar-19 01:53 PM
that's all I'm saying
LizWeedz 13-Mar-19 01:53 PM
I doubt it
but yea not gonna discuss here
but in general some religions are responsible for big things like architecture and math and art etc
truetrue 5
Goober 13-Mar-19 01:55 PM
well that was more the cultures that made those things, but those cultures were built on religion so true true
SeparateDrip 13-Mar-19 01:55 PM
Fuck mAth
truetrue 3
Goober 13-Mar-19 01:55 PM
I agree with your statement
fucker 13-Mar-19 02:15 PM
the religions were built off of the culture imo
not the other way around
Chanka 13-Mar-19 03:01 PM
Another feedback channel? okretard
cringe
Flat Rat 13-Mar-19 03:01 PM
retardoge
^ thats me
retardoge
Mia 13-Mar-19 03:08 PM
what do you guys think about Tay's suggestion on #feedback3
it's a good idea imo