<2022-09-20T01:11:01.000Z> chudbere: Hey sorry to bother you but I got my first notification report on my server and it's for something posted by a poa.st user and I am not sure what the moderation options do on my end and I want to know the best way to proceed 
<2022-09-20T01:11:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: well, it wasnt forwarded to us so whoever reported it did not think it was that important, or maybe it violates your rules but not ours but i cant really tell you how to moderate your instance. thats up to you
<2022-09-20T01:12:00.000Z> chudbere: I see I have options View Post and Delete Post, but I don't know what delete post would do since it wasn't something posted locally
<2022-09-20T01:12:13.000Z> graf@poa.st: it will delete the post for your users only
<2022-09-20T01:12:18.000Z> chudbere: I hope what I'm asking makes sense lol
<2022-09-20T01:12:39.000Z> chudbere: Okay so it just hides the post from anyone on chudbuds seeing it
<2022-09-20T01:12:49.000Z> graf@poa.st: more or less, yes
<2022-09-20T01:13:57.000Z> chudbere: Okay that makes sense, I just wanted to ask before I took any sort of action on it 
<2022-09-20T01:14:12.000Z> chudbere: Thanks for explaining it :)
<2022-09-20T01:14:50.000Z> chudbere: Also I accidentally messaged this question to you on your khajit alt so please disregard that, sorry 
<2022-09-21T02:54:30.000Z> chudbere: https://chudbuds.lol/@CarlShvartz@poa.st
<2022-09-21T02:54:40.000Z> chudbere: has this person been a member for a long time
<2022-09-21T02:55:33.000Z> graf@poa.st: no this is from the influx of KF and jim, why?
<2022-09-21T02:56:10.000Z> chudbere: https://chudbuds.lol/@CarlShvartz@poa.st/posts/ANm24IMTy339nZgoqW
<2022-09-21T02:56:51.000Z> chudbere: this guy joins keffals discord, then suddenly is reporting that their server is being raided
<2022-09-21T02:57:11.000Z> chudbere: that "give your love to a cowboy man" is from a song I've used on my stream as my intro for 4 years
<2022-09-21T02:57:38.000Z> chudbere: this combined with being swatted sunday after talking about Keffals makes me paranoid someone might be trying to pin this shit on me
<2022-09-21T02:58:04.000Z> chudbere: and i'm wondering if this guy could be a shit stirrer
<2022-09-21T02:59:02.000Z> chudbere: even if it's not about me, then by trying to do gayops to get Keffals people mad at poast
<2022-09-21T03:03:38.000Z> chudbere: anyway, something seems sus here and I wanted to make you aware
<2022-09-21T03:07:23.000Z> graf@poa.st: someone unrelated and not even following him on poast made a statement that keffals had opened their discord so im sure its unrelated to him personally. not discounting what happened to you but i think this is completely unrelated but i will keep an eye on him thanks
<2022-09-21T03:08:05.000Z> chudbere: okay good, that makes me feel a bit better
<2022-09-21T03:08:36.000Z> chudbere: have the KFers settled down a bit from the first couple weeks or are they still causing a lot of headaches?
<2022-09-21T03:12:41.000Z> graf@poa.st: the majority of the issues we have now are just people pushing the envelope on established rules. i made a comment about selfdoxing not being against our rules and immediately one of them posts a KF "in-joke" address so I challenged him to prove it was legitimate and gave him 15 mins to prove it and he didnt so I banned him. we are going to now add self doxing to the rules because KF cant let anyone have anything
<2022-09-21T05:02:31.000Z> chudbere: i saw that thread
<2022-09-21T19:47:00.000Z> chudbere: Forwarded a report to you about some post with dox in it
<2022-09-21T19:47:38.000Z> graf@poa.st: we deleted it like 30 mins ago lol
<2022-09-21T19:48:32.000Z> chudbere: Ha okay must have taken some time for it to trickle down over here
<2022-09-22T17:19:50.000Z> chudbere: How do you do the custom badges? I've tried setting them using the moderation pop-up box on people's profiles but it doesn't seem to save what I type in
<2022-09-22T20:51:40.000Z> graf@poa.st: you have to press enter when you're done typing. it's a WIP and the documentation isn't clear but it will get a colored background when it's saved 
<2022-09-22T21:02:29.000Z> chudbere: Thank you so much!
<2022-09-22T21:12:16.000Z> chudbere: What would you like your badge to say
<2022-09-22T21:13:08.000Z> chudbere: I intend to make them available for supporters of the server like you've done on poast 
<2022-09-22T21:58:28.000Z> graf@poa.st: maybe "knife ear" that's what it says on poast 🤷‍♂️
<2022-09-22T22:08:54.000Z> chudbere: Done! :)
<2022-09-23T18:37:24.000Z> chudbere: what is the difference between the chats and DMs? how do you send a post to just one person?
<2022-09-23T18:51:27.000Z> graf@poa.st: change the post scope. click the globe then select one of these. that's a DM
<2022-09-23T19:06:24.000Z> chudbere: oh god that's easy thank you
<2022-09-24T05:42:05.000Z> chudbere: Is there some sort of drama going on 
<2022-09-24T05:42:27.000Z> chudbere: Mackiavelli told me to ask you about it idk
<2022-09-24T05:42:43.000Z> chudbere: I've been busy streaming the last few hours 
<2022-09-24T05:48:44.000Z> graf@poa.st: not that i know of just people we banned crying that they're also defederated from your instance. its another day ending in y
<2022-09-24T05:50:50.000Z> chudbere: Only person that I know of that has been defederated was Xeraser
<2022-09-24T05:51:02.000Z> chudbere: At least I think that's what I did
<2022-09-24T05:51:17.000Z> graf@poa.st: im talking about people we banned from poast who went to your instance who we then defederated from poast
<2022-09-24T05:52:01.000Z> chudbere: Does "delete user" on a remote user defederate them I'm assuming?
<2022-09-24T05:52:11.000Z> graf@poa.st: thats correct
<2022-09-24T05:52:16.000Z> chudbere: Ah I understand like cog?
<2022-09-24T05:52:25.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes
<2022-09-24T05:54:56.000Z> chudbere: He is pretty bullheaded oh well
<2022-09-24T05:55:23.000Z> chudbere: Is there a way to un defederate someone?
<2022-09-24T05:55:41.000Z> chudbere: I'm assuming no cause it said it was permanent when I deleted xeraser
<2022-09-24T05:59:55.000Z> graf@poa.st: this will work, once the server becomes aware of that user it will federate them again
<2022-09-24T06:00:42.000Z> chudbere: Okay so what does "deactivate account" do on a remote user? Just removes their followers from my server?
<2022-09-24T06:01:41.000Z> chudbere: I've been hoping cog will eventually come around and want to apologize and make up with you guys
<2022-09-24T06:01:49.000Z> graf@poa.st: nope its actually a function that doesnt really work. it will deactivate the user but reactivate the next time the server becomes aware of the user. so if you want to defederate a remote user you delete
<2022-09-24T06:02:08.000Z> graf@poa.st: you couldn't pay me to accept an apology from him, sorry. after the shit he pulled no thank you
<2022-09-24T06:03:58.000Z> chudbere: I understand that but it would still be nice if he could back down a bit lol he gets pretty set on an idea and that's it
<2022-09-24T06:04:15.000Z> chudbere: That said I don't think he's a bad guy just stubborn
<2022-09-24T06:06:10.000Z> chudbere: Seems like a lot of people in the "dramasphere" are not capable of admitting when they were wrong, even partially
<2022-09-24T06:11:53.000Z> graf@poa.st: comes with the territory. sometimes i think some people do it to create more drama. i ignore it because i dont particulalry care to be involved with it.
<2022-09-24T06:12:18.000Z> chudbere: Good policy
<2022-09-24T06:12:55.000Z> chudbere: I like talking about the drama but I don't particularly try to insert myself or alog people to start beef
<2022-09-24T06:13:27.000Z> chudbere: Making a few jokes or memes about people is as far as I will go
<2022-09-24T06:18:42.000Z> chudbere: What does this toggle do lol
<2022-09-24T06:28:14.000Z> graf@poa.st: turns chats off. if you have it disabled you shouldnt get any new ones
<2022-09-24T06:31:18.000Z> chudbere: ohhhh
<2022-09-24T06:31:46.000Z> chudbere: UI needs more tooltips or something for people like me (ie retards)
<2022-09-24T18:01:27.000Z> chudbere: How did you do the crypto donation page 
<2022-09-24T21:02:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: its generated by the crypto boxes in chudbuds.lol/soapbox/config
<2022-09-24T21:03:18.000Z> chudbere: oh? those stick the links in my right sidebar on the home page
<2022-09-24T21:03:40.000Z> chudbere: do i need to do something different to get them on their own page?
<2022-09-24T21:04:38.000Z> graf@poa.st: i didnt do anything different as far as i can recall. ours is turned off because i think having them on the page is gay because i dont like asking for money
<2022-09-24T21:08:46.000Z> chudbere: Okay I will give that a shot 
<2022-09-24T21:09:46.000Z> chudbere: Thank you :)
<2022-09-30T03:54:33.000Z> chudbere: Looks like podawful joined here
<2022-09-30T03:55:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah, he made two accounts here earlier one to spam one of our users with dead baby accusations and the other to DM me calling me a pedophile and threatening me, yet agian
<2022-09-30T03:55:49.000Z> graf@poa.st: very stable individual 
<2022-09-30T03:55:53.000Z> graf@poa.st: he's been defederated so I don't care tbh
<2022-09-30T03:56:23.000Z> chudbere: You got the new account already?
<2022-09-30T03:56:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes
<2022-09-30T03:56:45.000Z> chudbere: Ok 👍 
<2022-09-30T03:58:43.000Z> chudbere: I will allow him the one account here as long as he doesn't break rules. If he starts making more alts here to harass you let me know 
<2022-09-30T03:58:56.000Z> graf@poa.st: okay thanks
<2022-09-30T04:08:32.000Z> graf@poa.st: now he's posting my images so
<2022-09-30T04:11:35.000Z> chudbere: Ugh one sec let me get out of bed
<2022-09-30T04:11:52.000Z> chudbere: I will delete his post and send him a warning 
<2022-09-30T04:25:33.000Z> chudbere: done
<2022-09-30T04:34:18.000Z> graf@poa.st: thanks, i didnmt expect that since 'dox' isnt really against your rule. i just wanted to bring your attention to it
<2022-09-30T04:34:38.000Z> graf@poa.st: and he was defederated for circumventing bans or blocks. the same reason his other accounts (5) have been removed on poast
<2022-09-30T04:35:06.000Z> chudbere: doxing is against our rules, I just say in the rule that if people post a link to a KF thread for instance that happens to contain dox, that isn't rule breaking
<2022-09-30T04:35:24.000Z> graf@poa.st: ah. alright i was unaware. thank you
<2022-09-30T04:35:56.000Z> chudbere: no problem. basically i don't want people posting direct links or whatever to a pastebin or a property records site
<2022-09-30T04:36:25.000Z> chudbere: but if they are linking to like, a post on page 2000 of ralph's thread, that's fine even if the OP for that thread contains his dox
<2022-09-30T04:37:07.000Z> chudbere: https://chudbuds.lol/about has all our rules. Gonna edit the dox rule now to include face dox
<2022-09-30T04:37:23.000Z> chudbere: since it isn't explicitly spelled out
<2022-09-30T04:40:41.000Z> chudbere: and, done
<2022-09-30T04:40:58.000Z> chudbere: okay gonna go lay back down with baby again, hopefully he settles down
<2022-09-30T04:41:28.000Z> graf@poa.st: thank you for your effort. much more than i expected
<2022-09-30T04:41:30.000Z> graf@poa.st: good night friend
<2022-09-30T04:41:40.000Z> chudbere: good night!!
<2022-10-02T04:23:01.000Z> chudbere: Dude I didn't know you got swatted last weekend! I'm so sorry 
<2022-10-02T05:13:55.000Z> graf@poa.st: wasnt last weekend and it wasnt really swatting. someone, i know who it is but im not going to publicly say, made a threat against my life and the lives of 30k other people at a university I was at for a day. we dealt with the user and reported it but someone called the local police to tell them about it so they sent swat and detectives to every address they have ever had for me 
<2022-10-02T05:14:35.000Z> chudbere: Omg man that's fucking horrible
<2022-10-02T05:14:47.000Z> chudbere: Do the police know who it is?
<2022-10-02T05:16:27.000Z> graf@poa.st: I gave them the IP of the user who threatened to make trouble for poast who was banned two or three days before it happened. same verizon business user (very uncommon) in the same geographic location so we gave them both IPs. last I heard they were waiting for warrants to subpoena verizon 
<2022-10-02T05:17:31.000Z> chudbere: I hope they catch them! Do you happen to know if they used text to speech during the call at all?
<2022-10-02T05:18:41.000Z> graf@poa.st: no this wasnt a swat. it was just a concerned user saying someone on poast threatened me and gave them my info 
<2022-10-02T05:21:45.000Z> chudbere: Oh okay I understand now
<2022-10-02T05:22:47.000Z> chudbere: I've had a few people asking for the info of the deputies investigating my swatting because the way it happened was similar to what was done to Metokur, Flamenco, and Faith Vickers
<2022-10-02T05:23:11.000Z> chudbere: I guess they are trying to maybe connect them and get feds involved if they can
<2022-10-02T05:24:21.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah this happened on the first day of university. i was there as a guest and I made a poast saying I was on campus and to "say hi if you see me" and the guy quoted it saying it would be a shame if someone shot me and shot up the university because the owner of an 'alt right website' was on campus
<2022-10-02T05:25:08.000Z> chudbere: Wtf thats so messed up
<2022-10-06T23:23:39.000Z> chudbere: thanks again for your help 
<2022-10-06T23:24:21.000Z> chudbere: i tried to explain to someone dming me that you didn't actually DOX anyone, you just had some anonymous analytics data that shows SOMEONE in mexico accessed Jim and Xani's page
<2022-10-06T23:24:51.000Z> chudbere: a lot of people don't seem to understand how analytics works and think it gives you someone's street address, name, etc
<2022-10-06T23:25:55.000Z> graf@poa.st: part and parcel with doing this. im used to it. sorry if you were involved
<2022-10-06T23:26:11.000Z> chudbere: nah not a problem i'm glad to know about the access log thing and how to turn it off
<2022-10-06T23:26:37.000Z> chudbere: i think it's funny the user you were watching messaged you to say "hey i'm not the rage pig"
<2022-10-06T23:27:26.000Z> graf@poa.st: true story
<2022-10-06T23:30:08.000Z> chudbere: lol
<2022-10-11T13:32:28.000Z> chudbere: I wanted to change things with BuyVM to turn automatic backups on, but when i got to the checkout screen i saw this
<2022-10-11T13:32:42.000Z> chudbere: it looks like it's going to change the OS if I do this
<2022-10-11T13:32:58.000Z> chudbere: won't that break soapbox?
<2022-10-11T13:34:44.000Z> graf@poa.st: looks like you selected something by mistake somewhere. clear your cart and do something else
<2022-10-11T13:36:59.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah I did the same thing and the only option selected for me was the backups. I mistakenly generated a 6$ invoice for myself to make that screenshot. I am using Ubuntu and have no operating system change 
<2022-10-11T13:37:06.000Z> graf@poa.st: so something you've selected somewhere has triggered it 
<2022-10-11T13:38:02.000Z> chudbere: weird i dont know where
<2022-10-11T13:38:18.000Z> chudbere: i just logged in and went straight to the upgrade options link
<2022-10-11T13:39:18.000Z> graf@poa.st: I would open a ticket because my OS on all my VPS says centos despite them all being ubuntu 
<2022-10-11T13:39:19.000Z> graf@poa.st: so its probably a bug
<2022-10-11T13:39:27.000Z> graf@poa.st: this is another one I generated
<2022-10-11T13:39:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: i think its just showing up as centos because thats their default
<2022-10-11T13:39:54.000Z> graf@poa.st: so open a ticket and ask because I cant replicate it at all
<2022-10-11T13:42:17.000Z> chudbere: okay I sent a ticket, thank you
<2022-10-12T21:25:08.000Z> chudbere: does it take some time for a new MRF reject to take effect on the front end?
<2022-10-12T21:26:52.000Z> graf@poa.st: it shouldn't. if you've blocked something any new message should be blocked 
<2022-10-12T21:30:22.000Z> chudbere: Okay so it doesn't retroactively hide old posts from that instance?
<2022-10-12T21:30:47.000Z> chudbere: That would explain my confusion 
<2022-10-12T21:31:36.000Z> chudbere: I was refreshing a thread after adding them to the list and mistakenly thought it would hide their old posts 
<2022-10-12T21:32:06.000Z> graf@poa.st: nope just new incoming. sorry! if you delete the user it will, though. 
<2022-10-12T21:32:26.000Z> chudbere: Got it 👍 
<2022-10-12T21:34:05.000Z> chudbere: Do you generally announce new defederated instances in a post or just add them to your list on the about page 
<2022-10-12T22:26:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: normally we do. for repeat offenders like the beefyboys people who have made now 4 new instances to bypass it because they're obsessed with me, then we dont bother
<2022-10-12T22:27:08.000Z> chudbere: Okay
<2022-10-20T22:32:38.000Z> chudbere: talked to that account you reported
<2022-10-20T22:32:52.000Z> chudbere: warned them against continuing to harass you
<2022-10-20T22:32:58.000Z> chudbere: lmk if it continues to be a problem
<2022-10-20T22:37:31.000Z> chudbere: Basically just told them that I'm not out to censor anyone and they can criticize whoever they want, but if they are going to make that the primary thing they use their account for then it's crossing the line into harassment and will get them banned
<2022-10-20T22:55:52.000Z> graf@poa.st: ok thanks 
<2022-10-20T22:56:13.000Z> chudbere: <3 hope you're having a good day 
<2022-10-20T22:56:20.000Z> chudbere: I saw you yeeted Vito, good riddance
<2022-10-20T23:11:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: he admitted to breaking our rule on supporting pedophilia and defending it 🤷🏻‍♂️
<2022-10-20T23:11:40.000Z> chudbere: yeah i read the thread, he's a piece of shit
<2022-10-20T23:12:00.000Z> chudbere: "oh i made all these jokes because irony"
<2022-10-20T23:12:03.000Z> chudbere: sure ya did, buddy
<2022-10-21T06:45:24.000Z> graf@poa.st: chudbuds.lol/objects/819e8d98-9f83-4457-a503-1188253ed069
<2022-10-21T06:45:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: this guy is insanely manipulative 
<2022-10-21T06:45:46.000Z> graf@poa.st: he was the first and only person poast ever defederated for almost a year 
<2022-10-21T06:46:47.000Z> chudbere: Ew?
<2022-10-21T06:47:10.000Z> chudbere: Yeah he got defedded by one of my mods yesterday 
<2022-10-21T06:47:34.000Z> chudbere: Didn't nuke his whole instance yet though
<2022-10-21T13:58:41.000Z> graf@poa.st: just fyi, we defederated cum.salon for it's admin user trying to sell or give away child pornography to people
<2022-10-21T13:58:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: i.imgur.com/fWno21A.png
<2022-10-21T13:59:23.000Z> chudbere: it's like you read my mind
<2022-10-21T13:59:46.000Z> chudbere: i was about to defed someone from there for posting a hell thread about how to stick a hamster up your butthole
<2022-10-21T14:00:04.000Z> chudbere: then I just opened their local timeline and was thinking ya know, i may just want to defed the whole thing
<2022-10-21T14:00:38.000Z> graf@poa.st: normally i wont unless the admin is active in a local rule violation
<2022-10-21T14:16:09.000Z> chudbere: these fuckers are degenerate
<2022-10-21T14:17:04.000Z> graf@poa.st: that guy is "mint" he's  the admin of ryona.agency and another one I cant remember right now
<2022-10-21T14:17:08.000Z> graf@poa.st: """ironic pedophile"""
<2022-10-21T14:17:34.000Z> chudbere: lovely. 
<2022-10-21T14:19:07.000Z> graf@poa.st: ye there's a clear cut case for our defed, I just wanted to include a screenshot with the one that tagged me on several acounts
<2022-10-21T14:19:52.000Z> chudbere: sorry that they tagged you in this disgusting shit
<2022-10-21T14:20:59.000Z> chudbere: also found this
<2022-10-21T14:21:08.000Z> chudbere: rats@refusal.biz
<2022-10-21T14:21:39.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah I had to scroll in to see it
<2022-10-22T04:19:58.000Z> chudbere: is it possible to create subdomains on buyVM to deploy other things like a pleroma installation, etc
<2022-10-22T04:20:12.000Z> chudbere: i mean pleroma front end
<2022-10-22T04:20:30.000Z> chudbere: like you guys have pl.poa.st
<2022-10-22T04:31:00.000Z> graf@poa.st: i am nearing the end of my time awake. partially drunk and ive been working for like 12 hours to get this shit together hopefully to launch monday or tuesday but I will help you tomorrow if you want
<2022-10-22T04:31:03.000Z> graf@poa.st: its not really that hard
<2022-10-22T04:31:20.000Z> chudbere: oh that's fine i don't expect any help right this moment 
<2022-10-22T04:31:27.000Z> chudbere: just didn't know if it is possible or not
<2022-10-22T04:31:35.000Z> graf@poa.st: pl.poa.st 
<2022-10-22T04:31:35.000Z> graf@poa.st: ;)
<2022-10-22T04:31:52.000Z> chudbere: lol have a good night
<2022-10-22T04:32:11.000Z> graf@poa.st: (to answer your question you can have unlimited subdomains on your VPS it wont hurt anything)
<2022-10-22T04:32:19.000Z> graf@poa.st: ill be up for a while but I will help you tomorrow!
<2022-10-22T04:32:30.000Z> chudbere: okay!
<2022-10-22T04:32:36.000Z> graf@poa.st: sunday is my anniversary with my gf so I wont be around much so I need to get all of this done tomorrow so do NOT let me forget
<2022-10-22T04:32:47.000Z> chudbere: haha no worries, i'm in no hurry
<2022-10-22T04:32:53.000Z> chudbere: doesn't even have to be this weekend
<2022-10-22T04:34:33.000Z> graf@poa.st: nah i will try for tomorrow because you're not the only one who wants it
<2022-10-22T04:34:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: so I think If i make a way you can both just deploy it no questions asked it would work for everyone
<2022-10-22T04:34:53.000Z> graf@poa.st: so this may be a teaching experience for my blog, too
<2022-10-22T04:35:05.000Z> graf@poa.st: we will try tomorrow afternoon, let me know after like 2pm et when you're around
<2022-10-22T04:35:09.000Z> graf@poa.st: I would like to sleep in
<2022-10-22T04:35:09.000Z> graf@poa.st: <3
<2022-10-22T04:35:13.000Z> chudbere: okay :) i learned a lot today setting up that protonmail bridge
<2022-10-22T04:37:13.000Z> chudbere: is goaccess what you guys are using for your local analytics?
<2022-10-22T04:37:32.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes
<2022-10-22T04:37:40.000Z> chudbere: i thought so
<2022-10-22T04:42:58.000Z> graf@poa.st: I can help you with that tomorrow too, just remind me please
<2022-10-22T04:43:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: I've  got so much going on with poast's growth and us starting a new business venture and everything
<2022-10-22T04:43:22.000Z> chudbere: oh, I don't need analytics just answering a question
<2022-10-22T04:43:45.000Z> graf@poa.st: we use a private fork for poast of this github.com/masonicboom/ipscrub
<2022-10-22T04:43:48.000Z> chudbere: bot saying something about cloudflare and I'm trying to explain how that's different than the local analytics you guys have
<2022-10-22T04:43:55.000Z> graf@poa.st: which allows us to maintain geolocation but obfuscate everything
<2022-10-22T04:43:59.000Z> chudbere: right
<2022-10-22T04:44:00.000Z> graf@poa.st: so you need a custom log format to support goaccess
<2022-10-22T04:44:25.000Z> graf@poa.st: we were using cloudflare up until like a month ago when the odysee ceo asked us for better analytics
<2022-10-22T04:44:32.000Z> graf@poa.st: also fuck bot pls dont feed him info about poast
<2022-10-22T04:45:12.000Z> chudbere: I'm not, just allying their fears that my DDoS protection is somehow tracking all my users now
<2022-10-22T04:45:49.000Z> graf@poa.st: ? buyvm has network level filtering like we do, you just pay for IPs that go through that instead of us who have it at the router and switch level because we pay for hardware for it
<2022-10-22T04:45:55.000Z> graf@poa.st: are you even using cloudflare?
<2022-10-22T04:46:05.000Z> graf@poa.st: no you arent
<2022-10-22T04:46:05.000Z> chudbere: nope lol
<2022-10-22T04:46:08.000Z> graf@poa.st: lol what is bot on about
<2022-10-22T04:46:29.000Z> graf@poa.st: i dont think he understands how networking works at all
<2022-10-22T04:46:35.000Z> chudbere: i don't know but she and I get along fairly well so I'm trying to talk her down off the ledge
<2022-10-22T04:46:42.000Z> chudbere: wait, is bot not a girl?
<2022-10-22T04:46:46.000Z> graf@poa.st: he just picks up pieces from conversations people have around him and pieces whatever he wants together 
<2022-10-22T04:47:07.000Z> graf@poa.st: well bot was "involved" with that ew guy who made it clear he was no longer involved because it was a paki dude
<2022-10-22T04:47:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: so that is the consensus 
<2022-10-22T04:47:17.000Z> graf@poa.st: neither of them have proved anything but nobody has disproved it
<2022-10-22T04:47:28.000Z> graf@poa.st: for that guy to break off such a heated relationship last year it must have stung so 
<2022-10-22T04:48:21.000Z> chudbere: lots of drama on the fediverse I've learned lol
<2022-10-22T04:48:43.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah so if you react to any of these people they will make it their entire lives to shit on you any chance they get for any reason
<2022-10-22T04:49:02.000Z> graf@poa.st: like bot and the likes with making a thread for poast on kiwifarms and trying desperately to get me a thread
<2022-10-22T04:49:15.000Z> graf@poa.st: this is your life if you continue and scold them for something theyve done
<2022-10-22T04:49:27.000Z> graf@poa.st: these people have been at it for almost two years poast has been around. daily. hourly even
<2022-10-22T04:49:41.000Z> chudbere: I think bot likes me for the most part so far, I'm just trying to live my life and not make too many waves lol
<2022-10-22T04:50:34.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah that was me until he was the reason parker closed an entire instance because he didnt want to deal with the fallout dealing with this guy. i defedded him and all his alts from poast and it's been a vortex since then, thats how him and ew ended up paired, and then him and NEETzsche, then him and anyone who will hate poast
<2022-10-22T04:50:35.000Z> graf@poa.st: LOL
<2022-10-22T04:51:39.000Z> chudbere: lmao and all those people except ew also follow me and are nice to me 
<2022-10-22T04:51:58.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah he's not the catalyst, bot is
<2022-10-22T04:52:02.000Z> graf@poa.st: so be careful what you say to him
<2022-10-22T04:52:39.000Z> chudbere: I'm walking a tightrope basically right now between people who like me/chudbuds and hate poast and then the poast users who also like us
<2022-10-22T04:53:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: oh yeah im not trying to sway you at all
<2022-10-22T04:53:20.000Z> graf@poa.st: these people will turn on a dime thats my experience, thats all i have to offer to that
<2022-10-22T04:53:23.000Z> chudbere: Yeah I'm not trying to give anyone ammo for anything. Idc if people on my instance criticize poast or anyone else, that's their perogative as long as they aren't setting out to harass people
<2022-10-22T04:53:50.000Z> chudbere: oh I can tell that for sure, the fediverse feels like late 90s/early 2000s forum culture
<2022-10-22T04:54:03.000Z> chudbere: there's always drama going on and people fighting/forming alliances lol
<2022-10-22T05:06:59.000Z> chudbere: is path really bad?
<2022-10-22T05:07:20.000Z> chudbere: i assumed since buyvm was using them and they are all pro free spech they would pick an ok provider for ddos
<2022-10-22T05:07:41.000Z> graf@poa.st: search kiwifarms for path
<2022-10-22T05:08:18.000Z> chudbere: ok
<2022-10-22T05:08:29.000Z> graf@poa.st: (the owner or top guy involved is a literal pedophile)
<2022-10-22T05:08:38.000Z> chudbere: oof, lovely
<2022-10-22T05:08:43.000Z> graf@poa.st: they also sought to strip kiwifarms of any protections
<2022-10-22T05:08:46.000Z> graf@poa.st: i think they are still doing it
<2022-10-22T05:11:54.000Z> chudbere: i wonder why buyvm uses them
<2022-10-22T05:12:33.000Z> graf@poa.st: i dont know but if i had known that was what he was using i would have suggested otherwise, sorry
<2022-10-22T05:16:54.000Z> chudbere: oh dont be sorry
<2022-10-22T05:17:12.000Z> chudbere: must not be a lot of ddos providers out there
<2022-10-22T05:17:36.000Z> chudbere: it looks like KF used them for hosting at one point maybe i'm still going through the thread
<2022-10-22T23:53:52.000Z> graf@poa.st: i have a special for you, 25$ per year for real email hosting that isnt filtered or blocked by a third party. you can then use an email like accounts@chudbuds.lol
<2022-10-22T23:53:54.000Z> graf@poa.st: accounts.mxroute.com/index.php?/cart/&step=3
<2022-10-22T23:53:54.000Z> graf@poa.st: go here
<2022-10-22T23:54:02.000Z> graf@poa.st: it's 25$ per year (crazy) 
<2022-10-22T23:54:22.000Z> graf@poa.st: when you register, you can set up chudbuds.lol as a domain, it will give you information what you need to put in your DNS settings to make mail work
<2022-10-22T23:54:38.000Z> chudbere: oh sweet, then i can scrap this whole protonmail bridge shit
<2022-10-22T23:54:42.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes
<2022-10-22T23:54:44.000Z> chudbere: which is not working very well
<2022-10-22T23:55:19.000Z> chudbere: okay cool I will look at that, I paid for a month of protonmail plus as a test and routed chudbuds.lol email to there
<2022-10-22T23:55:19.000Z> graf@poa.st: poast has an enterprise account with them so we get like 7200 emails an hour or something but 300 is just fine for something like your instance
<2022-10-22T23:55:50.000Z> chudbere: that's perfect
<2022-10-22T23:55:51.000Z> graf@poa.st: this is a promotion thats only good until i think the end of the month so when you jump on it let me know and I will guide you through it
<2022-10-22T23:56:38.000Z> chudbere: oh, I'll do it now. I'll have to go remove all the mx records I set over at protonmail to get their custom email working
<2022-10-22T23:56:52.000Z> chudbere: also let me go kill the proton bridge process
<2022-10-23T00:01:28.000Z> chudbere: ordering the service now
<2022-10-23T00:01:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: ye im just finishing up dishes, ive got our control panel set up so i can show you what you need and where it is
<2022-10-23T00:02:42.000Z> chudbere: purchased
<2022-10-23T00:02:46.000Z> chudbere: on the control panel
<2022-10-23T00:08:45.000Z> graf@poa.st: ok did you add the chudbuds.lol domain yet?
<2022-10-23T00:08:56.000Z> chudbere: yes
<2022-10-23T00:09:15.000Z> chudbere: added mx records and the spf txt record
<2022-10-23T00:09:38.000Z> graf@poa.st: oh so you're already done basically
<2022-10-23T00:09:43.000Z> graf@poa.st: just add an account and go
<2022-10-23T00:09:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: your smtp will be setup like this:
<2022-10-23T00:09:50.000Z> chudbere: what about the dkim record
<2022-10-23T00:10:19.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes you need the dkim record
<2022-10-23T00:10:21.000Z> graf@poa.st: it's also TXT 
<2022-10-23T00:10:59.000Z> chudbere: for the host I do x._domainkey on that one?
<2022-10-23T00:11:05.000Z> graf@poa.st: yep
<2022-10-23T00:11:08.000Z> chudbere: ok
<2022-10-23T00:11:41.000Z> chudbere: i think I got them all then
<2022-10-23T00:12:53.000Z> graf@poa.st: alright i guess save all changes.  go to chudbuds.lol/pleroma/admin/#/settings/maileradapter: SMTPrelay: this will be something like taylor.mxrouting.net (whatever the address of the server you logged into to add chudbuds is the relay address) port: 465username and password you can generate by going to "email manager" then "email accounts" on the mxrouting control panel
<2022-10-23T00:13:19.000Z> graf@poa.st: you need to check "Use SSL" STARTLS Mode: :neverAUTH Mode: :alwaysRetries: 3
<2022-10-23T00:13:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: the username will be whatever you set@chudbuds.lol
<2022-10-23T00:13:50.000Z> chudbere: okay one sec
<2022-10-23T00:15:32.000Z> chudbere: got it
<2022-10-23T00:15:35.000Z> chudbere: all entered in there
<2022-10-23T00:15:54.000Z> chudbere: okay so i'll give this a test in an hour or so when the DNS records have hopefully updated
<2022-10-23T00:16:03.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes ma'am
<2022-10-23T00:16:06.000Z> graf@poa.st: hope u enjoy 
<2022-10-23T00:16:12.000Z> chudbere: thank you so much!
<2022-10-23T00:16:25.000Z> chudbere: hey btw do you still recommend fosspay?
<2022-10-23T00:16:37.000Z> chudbere: i was looking at their git and it doesn't look like it's really been updated in a while
<2022-10-23T00:17:08.000Z> graf@poa.st: well thats all we really have to use
<2022-10-23T00:17:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: this is more up to date git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/fosspay
<2022-10-23T00:17:45.000Z> chudbere: yeah that's the page I found
<2022-10-23T00:17:57.000Z> chudbere: I also found a project called houdini
<2022-10-23T00:18:11.000Z> graf@poa.st: sorry, dont know anything about that one. we've only used fosspay
<2022-10-23T00:18:24.000Z> chudbere: okay :)
<2022-10-23T00:41:59.000Z> chudbere: hmm, the mails sent by the server aren't firing
<2022-10-23T00:42:08.000Z> chudbere: the account works though, I can email to and from it manually
<2022-10-23T00:43:00.000Z> graf@poa.st: can i see your config? use paint or something to censor out the pw
<2022-10-23T00:43:11.000Z> chudbere: sure
<2022-10-23T00:44:52.000Z> graf@poa.st: thats weird, matches ours except login and server
<2022-10-23T00:45:02.000Z> graf@poa.st: can you log into the server's command line and run sudo journalctl -fu pleroma
<2022-10-23T00:45:13.000Z> graf@poa.st: then try sending an email (request password request or something) and see if there's errors?
<2022-10-23T00:45:49.000Z> chudbere: sure one sec
<2022-10-23T00:50:57.000Z> chudbere: i think this is the error associated with it
<2022-10-23T00:53:04.000Z> chudbere: yeah that's it
<2022-10-23T00:53:04.000Z> graf@poa.st: hope thats related to federation and old build dependencies 
<2022-10-23T00:53:20.000Z> chudbere: i watched the console while I tried making a new account
<2022-10-23T00:53:20.000Z> graf@poa.st: do this:
<2022-10-23T00:53:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: sudo -Hu pleroma bashcd /opt/pleroma
<2022-10-23T00:53:42.000Z> graf@poa.st: MIX_ENV=prod mix pleroma.email test --to graf@poast.org
<2022-10-23T00:55:04.000Z> chudbere: okay
<2022-10-23T00:55:49.000Z> graf@poa.st: thats weird, it cant connect to the email server
<2022-10-23T00:57:13.000Z> chudbere: network failure
<2022-10-23T00:57:56.000Z> chudbere: maybe the dns still isn't propogated?
<2022-10-23T00:58:01.000Z> graf@poa.st: change the port to 587 and set STARTLS Mode to :if_available
<2022-10-23T00:58:03.000Z> graf@poa.st: and try it again
<2022-10-23T00:58:10.000Z> chudbere: but no, the admin isn't looking for chudbuds.lol nvm
<2022-10-23T00:58:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: no its telling you your VPS cant connect to the mail server
<2022-10-23T00:58:10.000Z> chudbere: ok
<2022-10-23T00:58:12.000Z> graf@poa.st: not related to DNS
<2022-10-23T00:58:29.000Z> graf@poa.st: anyway make those changes and try the mix command from above again ^^
<2022-10-23T00:59:20.000Z> graf@poa.st: nevermind that wont work
<2022-10-23T00:59:34.000Z> graf@poa.st: actually yes it will
<2022-10-23T00:59:42.000Z> graf@poa.st: make sure you deselect "Use SSL"
<2022-10-23T00:59:44.000Z> graf@poa.st: I just texted
<2022-10-23T00:59:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: tested*
<2022-10-23T01:00:08.000Z> chudbere: one sec
<2022-10-23T01:00:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: so this
<2022-10-23T01:00:23.000Z> graf@poa.st: mine worked with those settings too Test email has been sent to [{"", "graf@poast.org"}] from {"Poast", "accounts@poast.org"}
<2022-10-23T01:01:33.000Z> chudbere: same error
<2022-10-23T01:02:27.000Z> chudbere: what about port 25 or 1025
<2022-10-23T01:03:22.000Z> chudbere: let me try a different email account
<2022-10-23T01:03:27.000Z> graf@poa.st: 25 is usually blocked and unauthenticated 
<2022-10-23T01:03:32.000Z> graf@poa.st: network error isnt the account
<2022-10-23T01:03:36.000Z> graf@poa.st: its telling you it cant connect to the server
<2022-10-23T01:03:44.000Z> graf@poa.st: ping pixel.mxrouting.net and tell me if it responds
<2022-10-23T01:04:11.000Z> chudbere: yes it did
<2022-10-23T01:04:16.000Z> chudbere: from my pc
<2022-10-23T01:04:23.000Z> graf@poa.st: i mean from the server
<2022-10-23T01:04:28.000Z> graf@poa.st: maybe the server has some kind of block to reaching it
<2022-10-23T01:05:15.000Z> chudbere: i'ts responding
<2022-10-23T01:05:22.000Z> chudbere: how long should i let the ping rung
<2022-10-23T01:05:24.000Z> chudbere: run*
<2022-10-23T01:05:25.000Z> graf@poa.st: I mean you can try port 25 make sure Use SSL is off and STARTTLS mode is :never 
<2022-10-23T01:05:26.000Z> graf@poa.st: you can stop it
<2022-10-23T01:05:30.000Z> graf@poa.st: try that ^^
<2022-10-23T01:08:44.000Z> chudbere: same thing
<2022-10-23T01:08:49.000Z> chudbere: also tried 1025
<2022-10-23T01:09:15.000Z> chudbere: i know the mailer isn't broken, i did get it to connect and work with protonmail bridge
<2022-10-23T01:09:40.000Z> chudbere: but my issue was i couldn't get the service to persist and there were token issues on the protonmail api
<2022-10-23T01:09:51.000Z> chudbere: so i do know the smtp mailer does work
<2022-10-23T01:10:03.000Z> graf@poa.st: give me a minute im just handling ordering whcms licenses
<2022-10-23T01:10:09.000Z> chudbere: no hurry
<2022-10-23T01:10:16.000Z> chudbere: changing a diaper
<2022-10-23T01:10:33.000Z> graf@poa.st: while you're waiting make a temporary email@chudbuds.lol and give it to me with a password (a new one not the admin one) I will try it from my personal one to see if it works
<2022-10-23T01:13:49.000Z> chudbere: temp@chudbuds.lol
<2022-10-23T01:13:52.000Z> chudbere: buttcheeks1998
<2022-10-23T01:13:56.000Z> graf@poa.st: one sec
<2022-10-23T01:14:58.000Z> graf@poa.st: yep it let me send 
<2022-10-23T01:15:22.000Z> graf@poa.st: so its not the mail service. this is the config I have to make it work
<2022-10-23T01:15:50.000Z> graf@poa.st: you can delete that email, i just verified it twice
<2022-10-23T01:16:29.000Z> chudbere: okay so let me try it on my end
<2022-10-23T01:16:39.000Z> chudbere: do the mix env command again?
<2022-10-23T01:17:28.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes
<2022-10-23T01:18:14.000Z> chudbere: yeah same error lol
<2022-10-23T01:18:20.000Z> chudbere: maybe i should restart my instance?
<2022-10-23T01:18:43.000Z> graf@poa.st: I dont think you should have to, I wonder if something you did with your bridge is routing traffic to specific ports locally or something
<2022-10-23T01:18:46.000Z> graf@poa.st: try restarting it
<2022-10-23T01:19:05.000Z> chudbere: ok be right back
<2022-10-23T01:20:51.000Z> chudbere: back i think
<2022-10-23T01:21:18.000Z> graf@poa.st: ye
<2022-10-23T01:22:24.000Z> chudbere: yeah network failure
<2022-10-23T01:22:36.000Z> chudbere: could this be because of the ddos protection?
<2022-10-23T01:22:58.000Z> chudbere: i've deleted all the files for hydroxide from the server already
<2022-10-23T01:22:59.000Z> graf@poa.st: I'm not sure but your machine is being prevented from making a connection 
<2022-10-23T01:23:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: i dont know if thats a firewall on the server or for buyvm
<2022-10-23T01:23:20.000Z> graf@poa.st: but that may explain your issues with protonmail, too
<2022-10-23T01:23:38.000Z> chudbere: the protonmail issues were happening before i switched our IP last night
<2022-10-23T01:24:03.000Z> chudbere: i was able to get hydroxide service running manually and confirmation emails would send
<2022-10-23T01:24:14.000Z> chudbere: the issue was I could never get that systemctl service to work
<2022-10-23T01:24:25.000Z> chudbere: it would start the service correctly
<2022-10-23T01:24:29.000Z> chudbere: but emails wouldn't send
<2022-10-23T01:24:58.000Z> chudbere: reading issues on that git it seemed that i wasn't th eonly one having problems with it
<2022-10-23T01:25:50.000Z> graf@poa.st: what ports was that using?
<2022-10-23T01:25:58.000Z> chudbere: no firewall rules
<2022-10-23T01:26:05.000Z> chudbere: 1025
<2022-10-23T01:26:45.000Z> chudbere: https://github.com/emersion/hydroxide
<2022-10-23T01:27:07.000Z> chudbere: i was only using the smtp part of this ^
<2022-10-23T01:28:03.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah they dont allow connections on 1025 for mxrouting thats a nonstandard port
<2022-10-23T01:28:49.000Z> graf@poa.st: IMAP PORTS: 993 (SSL), 143 (non-encrypted)SMTP PORTS: 465 (SSL), 25 (non-encrypted), 587 (STARTTLS),POP3 PORTS: 995 (SSL), 110 (non-encrypted)
<2022-10-23T01:28:58.000Z> graf@poa.st: you said you got a timeout on port 25 too? with nothing enabled no ssl or anything?
<2022-10-23T01:29:07.000Z> chudbere: yeah but let me try it again
<2022-10-23T01:31:07.000Z> chudbere: yep same error
<2022-10-23T01:31:42.000Z> graf@poa.st: is that test email account still active?
<2022-10-23T01:31:48.000Z> chudbere: yes
<2022-10-23T01:32:24.000Z> graf@poa.st: ok im logging into one of our buyvm slices ill try connecting to it via commandline
<2022-10-23T01:32:44.000Z> chudbere: ok
<2022-10-23T01:33:43.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah someone somewhere is blocking something
<2022-10-23T01:33:48.000Z> graf@poa.st: from buyvm
<2022-10-23T01:34:01.000Z> graf@poa.st: from my jome
<2022-10-23T01:34:03.000Z> graf@poa.st: home*
<2022-10-23T01:34:14.000Z> graf@poa.st: open a ticket with buyvm and ask them if they can look into it, you can include my screenshots if you'd like
<2022-10-23T01:34:41.000Z> graf@poa.st: either buyvm is blocking mxroute or mxroute is blocking buyvm
<2022-10-23T01:34:49.000Z> graf@poa.st: ill check from another location (this was a newyork vps)
<2022-10-23T01:34:55.000Z> chudbere: ours is vegas
<2022-10-23T01:35:09.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah I think buyvm is blocking it
<2022-10-23T01:35:14.000Z> graf@poa.st: I just tried miami and luxembourg 
<2022-10-23T01:35:22.000Z> graf@poa.st: what a faggot
<2022-10-23T01:37:50.000Z> graf@poa.st: he's blocking the ports -- I just tried gmail's SMTP server and mail.com 
<2022-10-23T01:37:51.000Z> chudbere: why would they be blocking them
<2022-10-23T01:37:54.000Z> graf@poa.st: abuse maybe 
<2022-10-23T01:38:17.000Z> graf@poa.st: I cant connect to *any* SMTP server on buyVM slices
<2022-10-23T01:38:26.000Z> graf@poa.st: I can connect to them fine from any other VPS, my home, poast
<2022-10-23T01:38:47.000Z> chudbere: what the fuck
<2022-10-23T01:38:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: completely unrelated server
<2022-10-23T01:39:00.000Z> graf@poa.st: they all work but buyvm doesnt. that tells me he's blocking it lol
<2022-10-23T01:39:04.000Z> graf@poa.st: hold on
<2022-10-23T01:40:04.000Z> chudbere: https://wiki.buyvm.net/doku.php/network-troubleshooting
<2022-10-23T01:40:11.000Z> chudbere: does anything here apply or help
<2022-10-23T01:40:51.000Z> graf@poa.st: no its a network blcok
<2022-10-23T01:41:11.000Z> graf@poa.st: I just forced my buyvm to send anything to that IP and its still blocked
<2022-10-23T01:41:55.000Z> graf@poa.st: here's an incoming mail server
<2022-10-23T01:42:03.000Z> graf@poa.st: its not blocked because incoming mail isnt whats used for spam, outgoing is
<2022-10-23T01:42:26.000Z> graf@poa.st: open a ticket and call him a faggot and tell him you want port 465 open so you can use mail to verify your users
<2022-10-23T01:44:16.000Z> chudbere: okay
<2022-10-23T01:44:28.000Z> chudbere: but it's not just 465, right?
<2022-10-23T01:44:36.000Z> chudbere: it wasn't letting me connect on other ports either
<2022-10-23T01:44:39.000Z> graf@poa.st: you only need one port, 465 or 587, you can tell him both if you want
<2022-10-23T01:44:41.000Z> graf@poa.st: but 465 works fine
<2022-10-23T01:44:47.000Z> chudbere: okay
<2022-10-23T01:44:50.000Z> graf@poa.st: specify its for *outgoing* not incoming
<2022-10-23T01:45:36.000Z> graf@poa.st: I will say I'm very surprised he gave you the "you'll have to check back" about las vegas, nobody uses that one because peering is shit
<2022-10-23T01:45:37.000Z> graf@poa.st: lol
<2022-10-23T01:46:02.000Z> chudbere: wait so "karen" is just the owner using different names 
<2022-10-23T01:46:03.000Z> chudbere: ?
<2022-10-23T01:46:29.000Z> graf@poa.st: oh I have no idea he could have someone working for him. his name is francisco its a good guy he just gets in over his head
<2022-10-23T01:48:10.000Z> chudbere: sent
<2022-10-23T01:50:07.000Z> graf@poa.st: poa.st/@Salastil@pleroma.salastil.com/posts/AOqO29ynt2940ebGj2
<2022-10-23T01:50:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: thats super crazy lol
<2022-10-23T01:50:54.000Z> graf@poa.st: like normally and commonly a VPS provider will block ports 25, 465 and 587 INCOMING because people will set up mail servers to abuse them for spam email 
<2022-10-23T01:51:02.000Z> graf@poa.st: ive never seen someone block OUTGOING ports t oo
<2022-10-23T01:51:09.000Z> graf@poa.st: maybe just oversight
<2022-10-23T01:54:01.000Z> chudbere: interesting
<2022-10-23T01:54:10.000Z> chudbere: well hopefully they can unblock it for me
<2022-10-23T01:54:18.000Z> graf@poa.st: once they do it will work 100% 
<2022-10-23T01:54:21.000Z> graf@poa.st: our email works fantastic
<2022-10-23T01:54:25.000Z> graf@poa.st: these guys are really good at what they do
<2022-10-23T01:54:30.000Z> graf@poa.st: and 25$/year is a steal for unlimited domains and emails
<2022-10-23T01:54:34.000Z> chudbere: yes it is
<2022-10-23T01:54:40.000Z> chudbere: do you offer emails to poast users?
<2022-10-23T01:54:52.000Z> graf@poa.st: what do you mean? like do we send user account emails? yeah
<2022-10-23T01:54:54.000Z> graf@poa.st: do we provide people emails? no
<2022-10-23T01:55:04.000Z> chudbere: the latter
<2022-10-23T01:55:20.000Z> chudbere: i was thinking of maybe making that a perk for people who donate over a certain amount total
<2022-10-23T01:55:22.000Z> graf@poa.st: no but I'd consider something like poast.it or something for emails
<2022-10-23T01:56:33.000Z> chudbere: how hard is it to get a second pleroma front-end up and running on pl.chudbuds.lol
<2022-10-23T01:58:11.000Z> chudbere: ooh, already got an email back
<2022-10-23T01:58:17.000Z> chudbere: saying we've been whitelisted
<2022-10-23T01:58:37.000Z> chudbere: let me try the configuration with 465
<2022-10-23T02:02:18.000Z> chudbere: did you get the email
<2022-10-23T02:02:33.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes i did
<2022-10-23T02:02:50.000Z> graf@poa.st: im writing a config for you right now
<2022-10-23T02:03:11.000Z> chudbere: woot glad it worked
<2022-10-23T02:08:25.000Z> graf@poa.st: here is your config
<2022-10-23T02:08:26.000Z> graf@poa.st: termbin.com/rd8k
<2022-10-23T02:09:07.000Z> graf@poa.st: sudo wget termbin.com/rd8k -O /etc/nginx/sites-available/pl.chudbuds.lol.conf && sudo ln -s /etc/nginx/sites-available/pl.chudbuds.lol.conf /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/pl.chudbuds.lol.conf
<2022-10-23T02:09:42.000Z> graf@poa.st: give me one moment
<2022-10-23T02:14:41.000Z> chudbere: no problem
<2022-10-23T02:15:20.000Z> graf@poa.st: heres instructions on how to build it
<2022-10-23T02:15:21.000Z> graf@poa.st: termbin.com/s2fd
<2022-10-23T02:16:27.000Z> chudbere: which part do i do first
<2022-10-23T02:16:55.000Z> chudbere: the termbin you sent here and then build it?
<2022-10-23T02:18:02.000Z> chudbere: also would it be smart to wait to do this until i upgrade us
<2022-10-23T02:19:29.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah probably. I'll hold onto that for now and guide you through it then
<2022-10-23T02:20:04.000Z> graf@poa.st: I messed up the config anyway so its good
<2022-10-23T02:20:05.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah
<2022-10-23T02:20:07.000Z> chudbere: lol
<2022-10-23T02:20:07.000Z> graf@poa.st: i was just looking at that
<2022-10-23T02:20:13.000Z> graf@poa.st: sorry my brain is tired 2day
<2022-10-23T02:20:14.000Z> chudbere: i'm in no hurry
<2022-10-23T02:20:18.000Z> chudbere: don't be sorry
<2022-10-23T02:20:24.000Z> chudbere: all your help has been great
<2022-10-27T07:08:35.000Z> chudbere: i removed this from my last post cause it has her name
<2022-10-27T07:08:40.000Z> chudbere: but wanted to share it with you
<2022-10-27T07:08:51.000Z> graf@poa.st: I don't care. we have zero tolerance. we will remove figure reports and if she continues to egg it on she will also be removed. 
<2022-10-27T07:08:58.000Z> graf@poa.st: future reports"
<2022-10-27T07:09:52.000Z> chudbere: totally understand, I'm sorry you have to deal with her
<2022-10-27T07:10:22.000Z> chudbere: she keeps bringing up her threads constantly because she loves the attention
<2022-10-27T07:11:12.000Z> chudbere: on her threads on KF, onion farms, lolcow.farm, she looooooves replying to anyone who comments in them
<2022-10-27T07:11:38.000Z> chudbere: She honestly needs to get help and I feel bad for her but she does so much of this to herself
<2022-10-27T07:11:57.000Z> graf@poa.st: the owner of onion farms threatened my family last night over a ban and her. she's been warned. if it continues she will be removed and anyone namedropping will also be removed. I don't think I can make myself any more clear 
<2022-10-27T07:12:32.000Z> chudbere: You absolutely have, and I'm not questioning your decision I just was trying to provide context on her
<2022-10-27T07:12:54.000Z> graf@poa.st: I had to read the threads two months ago nearly when this started. I'm well aware of her
<2022-10-27T07:12:56.000Z> chudbere: I'll make a post informing chud buds that any use of her name will result in being blocked from poast
<2022-10-27T07:13:00.000Z> graf@poa.st: thank you 
<2022-10-27T07:13:23.000Z> chudbere: sure, I don't want any animosity with you guys
<2022-10-30T07:12:24.000Z> graf@poa.st: guess that richard_r_ape guy is allowed to post my shit at will. very cool 
<2022-10-30T07:14:44.000Z> chudbere: I just now got your chat, don't know when you sent it
<2022-10-30T07:15:15.000Z> chudbere: I was streaming until about midnight, but I deleted the image as soon as I saw it around an hour ago
<2022-10-30T07:15:43.000Z> graf@poa.st: I have no idea. I just have people messaging me telling me 
<2022-10-30T07:17:23.000Z> chudbere: ah fuck he's posting more i see
<2022-10-30T07:17:25.000Z> chudbere: one sec
<2022-10-30T07:17:34.000Z> chudbere: i think i'm the only mod active right this second
<2022-10-30T07:22:33.000Z> chudbere: I'm deleting them all
<2022-10-30T07:22:46.000Z> chudbere: he says he's moving to another instance
<2022-10-30T07:30:14.000Z> graf@poa.st: thanks but it will keep happening 
<2022-10-30T07:40:25.000Z> chudbere: I've told him he can move instances now or I'll ban him. I've deleted everything I saw with pictures he's been spamming and set it so he cannot add media to posts
<2022-10-30T07:45:02.000Z> graf@poa.st: thank you 
<2022-10-30T07:45:28.000Z> chudbere: sorry nobody was around to catch this sooner
<2022-11-03T04:46:00.000Z> chudbere: we got our server upgrade done, so if you're still willing to help me do the pl.chudbuds.lol setup sometime that would be great
<2022-11-03T05:09:26.000Z> graf@poa.st: ya I can just not tonight I'm already in bed and gf is sound asleep if I went to get ThinkPad it'd wake her up loo
<2022-11-03T05:09:29.000Z> graf@poa.st: I can tomorrow 
<2022-11-03T05:09:44.000Z> chudbere: sure, that works for me!
<2022-11-05T03:42:05.000Z> chudbere: would you maybe be able to help me with the pleroma front end tonight?
<2022-11-05T03:42:11.000Z> chudbere: it's okay if you are busy :)
<2022-11-05T04:41:28.000Z> graf@poa.st: I wont have time tonight, we went to medieval times and I just got home from toronto and I have a lot to catch up on but im free most of tomorrow
<2022-11-05T04:41:40.000Z> chudbere: okay!
<2022-11-05T04:41:45.000Z> chudbere: how was medieval times
<2022-11-05T04:41:52.000Z> chudbere: is that one of those dinner shows
<2022-11-05T04:47:12.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah, dunno if you've seen cable guy but its featured in that movie. was pretty good. definitely geared at kids but we had a good time thank you for asking
<2022-11-05T04:48:22.000Z> chudbere: i went to one like that when I was a senior in high school, but it was more "southern" themed
<2022-11-05T04:48:28.000Z> chudbere: "Dixie Stampede" lol
<2022-11-05T04:48:56.000Z> chudbere: it was pretty fun but yeah definitely geared towards families with kids
<2022-11-05T19:13:22.000Z> chudbere: lmk if you're free today :)
<2022-11-05T19:13:36.000Z> graf@poa.st: ya im just going to grocery and ill be back on or about 4pm ET 
<2022-11-05T19:13:43.000Z> chudbere: sounds good :)
<2022-11-05T20:09:39.000Z> graf@poa.st: im just making pizza pockets, you can start with this since its the majority of what you need to do termbin.com/s2fd
<2022-11-05T20:10:30.000Z> chudbere: ook
<2022-11-05T20:13:35.000Z> chudbere: had to install node one sec
<2022-11-05T20:13:46.000Z> graf@poa.st: surprised you dont have it to build soapbox
<2022-11-05T20:14:04.000Z> graf@poa.st: oh you are probably using the release version nm
<2022-11-05T20:14:09.000Z> chudbere: i am
<2022-11-05T20:14:22.000Z> chudbere: but i want to get our own build soon 
<2022-11-05T20:15:05.000Z> chudbere: should the local.json be a new file?
<2022-11-05T20:17:03.000Z> chudbere: after npm run build
<2022-11-05T20:19:41.000Z> graf@poa.st: oops run `yarn`
<2022-11-05T20:19:48.000Z> graf@poa.st: then npm run build
<2022-11-05T20:19:59.000Z> chudbere: npm run yarn?
<2022-11-05T20:20:04.000Z> graf@poa.st: no just yarn
<2022-11-05T20:20:52.000Z> chudbere: ok
<2022-11-05T20:22:37.000Z> chudbere: when i installed node i just did apt-get install npm
<2022-11-05T20:22:55.000Z> chudbere: anything i should do to update it or can this error be ignored
<2022-11-05T20:23:32.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah no you cant do that, sudo apt purge npm 
<2022-11-05T20:23:33.000Z> graf@poa.st: stewright.me/2022/01/tutorial-install-nodejs-16-on-ubuntu-20-04/
<2022-11-05T20:23:40.000Z> graf@poa.st: npm from apt is almost always buggy and fucky like that
<2022-11-05T20:23:58.000Z> chudbere: ok
<2022-11-05T20:26:59.000Z> chudbere: got node 16 installed and then yarn
<2022-11-05T20:27:03.000Z> chudbere: npm run build gave me this
<2022-11-05T20:27:59.000Z> graf@poa.st: now you need to do npm install -g yarnyarnnpm run build
<2022-11-05T20:28:00.000Z> graf@poa.st: in that order
<2022-11-05T20:28:12.000Z> graf@poa.st: actually wait
<2022-11-05T20:28:21.000Z> graf@poa.st: you will have to kill your modules because you fetched new shit
<2022-11-05T20:28:53.000Z> chudbere: how do i do that
<2022-11-05T20:29:36.000Z> graf@poa.st: yarn cache clean
<2022-11-05T20:29:40.000Z> graf@poa.st: then run yarn again
<2022-11-05T20:29:54.000Z> graf@poa.st: oh
<2022-11-05T20:29:59.000Z> graf@poa.st: you never ran yarn in the right directory
<2022-11-05T20:30:04.000Z> graf@poa.st: you need to run all of this in ~/pleroma-fe
<2022-11-05T20:30:21.000Z> chudbere: one sec
<2022-11-05T20:31:37.000Z> chudbere: ok it's building
<2022-11-05T20:34:25.000Z> chudbere: good to do the next part starting with sudo rsync?
<2022-11-05T20:34:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: looks like it built fine, make sure there's stuff in the dist/ directory and then it should be good
<2022-11-05T20:34:44.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes
<2022-11-05T20:35:15.000Z> chudbere: rsync command not found lol
<2022-11-05T20:35:49.000Z> chudbere: something else i need to install?
<2022-11-05T20:36:04.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah thats fine to install with apt
<2022-11-05T20:36:28.000Z> chudbere: got it
<2022-11-05T20:39:52.000Z> graf@poa.st: sudo wget pastebin.com/raw/a20t9Kf8 -O /etc/nginx/sites-available/pl.chudbuds.lol.conf look at the config make sure it says chudbuds where it should or whatever thensudo ln -s /etc/nginx/sites-available/pl.chudbuds.lol.conf /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/pl.chudbuds.lol.conf
<2022-11-05T20:40:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: then you can run the certbot command at the end of that text file i sent
<2022-11-05T20:37:37.000Z> graf@poa.st: hold on
<2022-11-05T20:37:37.000Z> graf@poa.st: dont do the last step (stop nginx) until you have this in place
<2022-11-05T22:17:33.000Z> chudbere: anywhere I can see how many new instances have been spun up in the last week on pleroma and mastodon?
<2022-11-05T22:52:32.000Z> chudbere: also I don't really want to report this because I'm sure your queue is just as spammed as ours right now
<2022-11-05T22:52:34.000Z> chudbere: https://chudbuds.lol/@job384@poa.st/posts/APIo2WPmrhermcGgkK
<2022-11-05T22:52:49.000Z> chudbere: idk if this crosses your line into fedposting or not
<2022-11-05T22:52:52.000Z> chudbere: just happened to see it
<2022-11-06T05:22:34.000Z> chudbere: is that account still showing up?
<2022-11-06T05:22:38.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah
<2022-11-06T05:22:42.000Z> graf@poa.st: must be cached for us
<2022-11-06T05:22:44.000Z> graf@poa.st: ill remove it, thanks
<2022-11-06T05:22:47.000Z> chudbere: okay :)
<2022-11-06T05:23:07.000Z> chudbere: i was concerned cause it looks like every single mod has attempted to delete it lol
<2022-11-06T05:23:26.000Z> graf@poa.st: someone from onionfarms has made 15 accounts in the last 7 mintues here to call me a pedo so you might get some too, just fyi
<2022-11-06T05:23:35.000Z> chudbere: okay i will keep an eye out
<2022-11-06T16:22:34.000Z> chudbere: I deleted that new account earlier, must still be cached on your end
<2022-11-06T16:22:55.000Z> chudbere: deleted it about an hour ago
<2022-11-06T16:29:37.000Z> graf@poa.st: ok thanks. it's not a "few" socks btw. it's 37 with 52 in waiting 
<2022-11-06T16:31:59.000Z> chudbere: 37 on your side?
<2022-11-06T16:32:05.000Z> chudbere: jeez
<2022-11-06T16:32:39.000Z> chudbere: I think this is the first one I've seen over here, i was up most of the night and every new account I would check their profile after 30 minutes to see what they were posting
<2022-11-06T18:01:56.000Z> chudbere: Hey do you happen to know how much time is left on the cooldown for Atomic Denny to migrate back here
<2022-11-06T18:14:32.000Z> graf@poa.st: pretty sure it was october 9th
<2022-11-06T18:14:45.000Z> graf@poa.st: so it would be 30 days from that at the minimum, maybe 31 if you include the 9th
<2022-11-06T18:15:47.000Z> chudbere: okay so probably the 9th or 10th at the latest
<2022-11-06T18:15:49.000Z> chudbere: thank you!
<2022-11-06T23:26:30.000Z> chudbere: please don't spread this screencap around but I was just shared this
<2022-11-06T23:26:40.000Z> chudbere: I just turned our registrations off temporarily
<2022-11-06T23:27:36.000Z> chudbere: i know the twitter threat is a couple weeks old at this point but still going to keep registrations off and maybe do some pruning
<2022-11-07T00:55:40.000Z> graf@poa.st: ok thanks 
<2022-11-07T00:59:17.000Z> chudbere: no problem
<2022-11-07T00:59:25.000Z> chudbere: you still getting socks from onion farms over there?
<2022-11-07T01:07:01.000Z> graf@poa.st: no they do it late at night. the guy who runs it, or at least the guy who ran the poast account lives 20 minutes from my hometown according to his IP. I captured it with his threat against my family and forwarded it to detectives working on the swatting cases 
<2022-11-07T01:07:48.000Z> chudbere: hope they are able to do something about it
<2022-11-07T02:47:48.000Z> graf@poa.st: they've started making accounts again so i turned off open registration
<2022-11-07T02:48:37.000Z> chudbere: okay
<2022-11-07T02:48:44.000Z> chudbere: I'm keeping ours off for a day or two at least
<2022-11-07T05:23:58.000Z> chudbere: what is that link
<2022-11-07T05:24:04.000Z> chudbere: i looked at it through tor
<2022-11-07T05:24:08.000Z> graf@poa.st: it's an IP logger 
<2022-11-07T05:24:18.000Z> graf@poa.st: it logs your IP then sends you to a destination 
<2022-11-07T05:24:29.000Z> graf@poa.st: it gives the IPs it logs to the person who generated the link 
<2022-11-07T05:24:34.000Z> graf@poa.st: so that user has been defederates 
<2022-11-07T05:24:46.000Z> graf@poa.st: I assumed you would deal with it as well that's why I reported it 
<2022-11-07T05:25:05.000Z> chudbere: yes i will just wanted to understand what exactly it was
<2022-11-07T05:25:16.000Z> graf@poa.st: scummy shit to do 
<2022-11-07T05:30:14.000Z> chudbere: yeah i'm banning him now
<2022-11-07T05:30:22.000Z> chudbere: had to collect screencaps in tor of what he was doing
<2022-11-07T05:30:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: ye
<2022-11-07T05:30:50.000Z> graf@poa.st: we keep all our mod activities on a nextcloud server all our jannies have access to
<2022-11-07T05:31:00.000Z> graf@poa.st: with documentation and screenshots and stuff 
<2022-11-07T05:31:10.000Z> chudbere: I've got a guilded server for our mods where we do the same thing
<2022-11-07T05:32:20.000Z> chudbere: banned
<2022-11-07T05:34:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: gracias 
<2022-11-07T05:35:22.000Z> chudbere: thanks for alerting me to it
<2022-11-07T05:55:18.000Z> chudbere: can you use MRF to block certain URLs to be posted 
<2022-11-07T05:55:29.000Z> chudbere: maybe with Keyword Policy?
<2022-11-07T05:58:52.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah you can but id be careful doing that. replacing words in stuff people post can take away your section 230 protections because they can argue you are an editorial by modifying user content 
<2022-11-07T06:06:49.000Z> chudbere: hmm okay
<2022-11-07T06:07:11.000Z> chudbere: even though you can blacklist words on other platforms like Twitch, youtube, etc through Automod chat filters?
<2022-11-07T06:07:35.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah that's why I'm saying be careful. I'm not sure how heavy handed that rule is quite yet 
<2022-11-07T06:07:45.000Z> graf@poa.st: MRF = message rewrite 
<2022-11-07T06:07:53.000Z> graf@poa.st: they just block it entirely don't they?
<2022-11-07T06:12:23.000Z> chudbere: one sec I'll show you
<2022-11-07T06:13:23.000Z> chudbere: so you could reject strings entirely
<2022-11-07T06:13:33.000Z> chudbere: or you could do what I'm thinking of doing, which is the Replace
<2022-11-07T06:13:40.000Z> chudbere: you can leave the replacement box blank
<2022-11-07T06:14:07.000Z> chudbere: which would just strip the string out of the post entirely
<2022-11-07T06:15:45.000Z> chudbere: I've got a list of grabify.link aliases, think I'm going to do that with all of them
<2022-11-07T06:17:37.000Z> chudbere: https://gist.github.com/M-rcus/9af3207273bf5d30b28c2e3892f1a412 
<2022-11-07T06:17:43.000Z> chudbere: ^grabify alias list
<2022-11-07T06:18:53.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah for something like that I would probably put it in our web application firewall to reject any POST from a client with those strings I will have to work something like that into our service we have to make now I guess 
<2022-11-07T06:20:03.000Z> chudbere: it's like whackamole lol
<2022-11-07T06:20:09.000Z> chudbere: or a hydra
<2022-11-07T06:20:17.000Z> chudbere: you cut the head off of one problem, two more appear
<2022-11-07T06:43:59.000Z> chudbere: more grabify links that may not be in that doc i linked
<2022-11-09T19:26:49.000Z> chudbere: that laywarden account is some troll doxing CowPoly's girlfriend "Falsies"
<2022-11-09T19:27:32.000Z> graf@poa.st: ok thanks
<2022-11-09T19:28:29.000Z> chudbere: there's some gayops shit going on around here
<2022-11-09T19:28:52.000Z> chudbere: I have an account on chudbuds pretending to be an ex-KF janny SpookyBones
<2022-11-09T19:29:04.000Z> chudbere: (well, using one of spooky's aliases)
<2022-11-09T22:49:19.000Z> chudbere: how did your hardware installation go today?
<2022-11-09T23:32:17.000Z> graf@poa.st: you mean drives? still waiting. they are delivered tho
<2022-11-09T23:32:20.000Z> graf@poa.st: we have uh
<2022-11-09T23:32:38.000Z> graf@poa.st: 341GB available in our array
<2022-11-09T23:32:42.000Z> graf@poa.st: so we have a couple days if they arent installed today
<2022-11-09T23:32:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: maybe 2 weeks
<2022-11-09T23:46:45.000Z> chudbere: what takes up so much space? just posts?
<2022-11-09T23:47:09.000Z> graf@poa.st: no this is just our media
<2022-11-09T23:47:16.000Z> graf@poa.st: we have a 100MB file size limit
<2022-11-09T23:47:28.000Z> graf@poa.st: multiply that by a couple dozen thousand posts a day and it adds up
<2022-11-09T23:47:42.000Z> graf@poa.st: we are at 81% capacity right now, I'd like to deal with it before its too late you know?
<2022-11-09T23:50:11.000Z> chudbere: oh absolutely
<2022-11-09T23:50:29.000Z> chudbere: our filesize limit is 50MB, I should probably look at how much of our storage we are using
<2022-11-10T00:08:59.000Z> graf@poa.st: with something like buyvm its easy because if you set up a slab using LVM you can literally just attach more endlessly and upgrade that way as you go. this I have to rebuild array so it takes a little bit because I have to order disks, then get them delivered, arrange for remote hands to install them, configure then rebuild
<2022-11-10T00:09:03.000Z> graf@poa.st: so I need a bunch of time to do it
<2022-11-10T00:09:22.000Z> graf@poa.st: wish we could run on something that was easily scaleable but long gone are those days lol  
<2022-11-10T00:10:29.000Z> chudbere: Is the membership still skyrocketing over there?
<2022-11-10T00:11:18.000Z> graf@poa.st: nah it evened out since we restrict registrations the last couple nights due to onionfarms faggots
<2022-11-10T00:11:27.000Z> graf@poa.st: 26.6
<2022-11-10T00:12:19.000Z> chudbere: Those assholes still trolling you?
<2022-11-10T00:14:58.000Z> graf@poa.st: i dont think it's something that will ever go away but it is exposing holes in restrictions and rate limits so I will be able to fix those for the future 
<2022-11-10T00:22:29.000Z> chudbere: well lmk about any other weird accounts you come across, there's definitely some gayops going on behind the scenes with different groups of people connected to I JUST LOST NRN and ex kiwifarmers
<2022-11-10T00:22:56.000Z> chudbere: possibly Zoom/Corey Barnhill's cronies
<2022-11-10T00:32:01.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah i figure it all has to do with those groups
<2022-11-10T00:32:04.000Z> graf@poa.st: dunno who that is
<2022-11-10T00:35:51.000Z> chudbere: ooh i have a good read for you
<2022-11-10T00:35:58.000Z> chudbere: he's the current ceo of Path.net
<2022-11-10T00:36:06.000Z> chudbere: the ddos mitigator
<2022-11-10T00:36:26.000Z> chudbere: but he's also a lolcow who has done such things as hack baby monitors to scare parents
<2022-11-10T00:36:32.000Z> chudbere: force his girlfriend to watch CP
<2022-11-10T00:36:45.000Z> chudbere: and tried to shut down KF more than once
<2022-11-10T00:38:05.000Z> chudbere: despite being a CEO now, he still is a sad jealous little man and runs a gayopping and doxing group called Plate Gang
<2022-11-10T00:38:33.000Z> chudbere: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/corey-shiratori-formerly-corey-ray-barnhill-august-heart-lulz-xyrix-ruxpin-zoom-internet-godspeed.46297/
<2022-11-10T00:46:29.000Z> graf@poa.st: yikes
<2022-11-12T01:17:44.000Z> chudbere: I dont wanna annoy him but does this mean it's something he needs to do "implement proper embeds in rebased"
<2022-11-12T01:18:09.000Z> chudbere: idk what the rest of it means, maintaining the CSP 
<2022-11-12T01:19:02.000Z> graf@poa.st: CSP = content security policy. your nginx installation is not allowing you to embed shit because of that. i can see that in firefox as it refuses to load content from a site that isnt *chudbuds.lol
<2022-11-12T01:19:03.000Z> graf@poa.st: validbot.com/tools/csp-wizard.php
<2022-11-12T01:19:13.000Z> graf@poa.st: embeds were never properly implemented in pleroma
<2022-11-12T01:19:18.000Z> graf@poa.st: the /embed/ solves that for the most part
<2022-11-12T01:19:21.000Z> graf@poa.st: but not for somehting like this
<2022-11-12T01:20:13.000Z> chudbere: would the CSP have to be changed on chudbuds.lol or on chudbuds.org (where the blog resides)
<2022-11-12T02:44:59.000Z> graf@poa.st: well i think it would pertain only to the site in which you are trying to embed. the other site is just being viewed as if its in a browser window. the site embedding it needs to give permission to the browser to display something off site
<2022-11-12T02:46:11.000Z> chudbere: how dank is that capybara on a scale of 1 to Snoop Dogg right now
<2022-11-12T02:48:38.000Z> graf@poa.st: its just a baby
<2022-11-12T02:50:35.000Z> chudbere: I had to look up the photo source, it's drinking some sort of herbal tea
<2022-11-12T02:50:47.000Z> chudbere: I thought it was being given a bowl to smoke lol
<2022-11-12T02:51:11.000Z> chudbere: I've seen adult capybaras in person, they are huge
<2022-11-12T03:02:22.000Z> chudbere: 
<2022-11-12T03:02:30.000Z> chudbere: this code doesn't connect
<2022-11-12T03:02:31.000Z> chudbere: but
<2022-11-12T03:02:56.000Z> chudbere: 
<2022-11-12T03:02:58.000Z> chudbere: this does
<2022-11-12T03:03:08.000Z> chudbere: generated the second block using https://www.mastofeed.com/
<2022-11-12T03:17:59.000Z> graf@poa.st: based
<2022-11-12T03:18:31.000Z> chudbere: i just don't get how the second one works but the first one doesn't
<2022-11-12T03:18:45.000Z> chudbere: lol idk i should just go make a drink and stop worry about it tonight
<2022-12-14T17:24:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: if you are still having those notices pop off in the pleroma journal on console change your logger settings in AdminFE to something different like :info
<2022-12-14T17:24:38.000Z> graf@poa.st: I forgot to mention and i woke up thinking about this today
<2022-12-14T17:47:48.000Z> chudbere: Okay
<2022-12-14T17:47:56.000Z> chudbere: I will give that a try
<2022-12-14T17:48:37.000Z> chudbere: Any word from Alex on the subscription issue? It doesn't look like he's commented on it since I did a few days ago
<2022-12-14T18:21:55.000Z> graf@poa.st:  no, we had a major issue with new instance deployments yesterday because "false" was set to "true" on a recent change to rebased so we were dealing with that yesterday. alex was sick and I have gout/turf toe stlil so I have been mostly in bed. I will poke him about it today tho
<2022-12-14T18:46:42.000Z> chudbere: Okay no worries 
<2023-01-06T00:36:35.000Z> chudbere: just fyi i forwarded a report to you
<2023-01-06T00:36:41.000Z> chudbere: trollcow is back on your instance
<2023-01-06T00:38:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah she made an appeal and said she would stop dox bating so the mods voted and decided to rescind the ban and I told them if they were doing that they have to watch her and she's been warned about it already but I'll let them know to keep more close eye on it thanks 
<2023-01-06T00:39:21.000Z> chudbere: yeah she DMed me some crazy shit calling me insane and asking me to give her the email address of anyone that might be impersonating her
<2023-01-06T00:40:06.000Z> chudbere: then followed that up by telling me never to contact her
<2023-01-06T00:40:15.000Z> chudbere: i didn't reply and blocked her nutbag ass
<2023-01-06T00:41:15.000Z> chudbere: oh and I defederated her because I don't want her starting shit with anyone on chudbuds
<2023-01-06T00:42:17.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah it's her, I forwarded the password reset to the email on the account so it's not someone pretending to be her but I'll let them know. sorry 
<2023-01-06T00:42:33.000Z> chudbere: no need to be sorry just warning you
<2023-01-06T00:42:39.000Z> chudbere: crazier than a shithouse rat, that on
<2023-01-06T00:42:48.000Z> chudbere: one*
<2023-01-06T00:51:07.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah I gathered that 
<2023-01-06T00:51:30.000Z> chudbere: anyway, good luck! I gotta shower and get ready for stream, hope you're well
<2023-01-06T00:52:07.000Z> graf@poa.st: you too
<2023-01-08T08:40:51.000Z> chudbere: I see Elaine has been talking mad shit about me over there the last two days lol
<2023-01-08T08:41:26.000Z> chudbere: Saying I panic blocked her because I had no receipts for her trying to sign up here
<2023-01-08T08:41:41.000Z> chudbere: I blocked her because I want nothing to do with her
<2023-01-08T08:42:01.000Z> chudbere: First time I have blocked anyone on fedi ever
<2023-01-08T08:45:08.000Z> chudbere: Asks me to give her email addresses of anyone who might be impersonating her, then tells me she thinks I'm insane and to never mention or contact her 
<2023-01-08T08:45:59.000Z> chudbere: Never even replied to her and she is dredging up a post I made in November about how I thought she had tried to make an alt here
<2023-01-08T08:48:28.000Z> chudbere: This was the account I thought was her
<2023-01-08T08:48:54.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah we are keeping an eye on her, the mods voted 5/9 in favor of reinstating it (the others abstained) so they know to lay the screws to her if shes becoming a problenm
<2023-01-08T08:48:55.000Z> chudbere: If it wasn't, fine, but I'm not giving her anyone's email address
<2023-01-08T08:49:51.000Z> chudbere: Theres some gayops shit afoot I swear
<2023-01-08T08:50:13.000Z> chudbere: I just banned a couple of recent signups who I know are associated with her
<2023-01-08T08:51:03.000Z> chudbere: And fucking Zoom of all people joined a temp discord server I set up to do the voice call for my stream with Gator and Rand the other night
<2023-01-08T08:51:49.000Z> chudbere: The server had no channels or anything so I just deleted it but Zoom is even worse than Elaine 
<2023-01-08T08:52:23.000Z> chudbere: So watch your sign-ups, there's some sort of fuckery going on and both Elaine and Zoom are known swatters
<2023-01-08T08:53:37.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah im sorry i dont know any of these people i just know the mods voted because it wasnt particularly egregious and she seemed to understand finally why she was removed 
<2023-01-08T08:53:43.000Z> graf@poa.st: but i will warn them of this
<2023-01-08T08:54:07.000Z> chudbere: It's okay, just be aware she is dangerous
<2023-01-08T08:54:26.000Z> chudbere: She is the one who carved Josh's name into her legs with a razor
<2023-01-08T08:55:53.000Z> graf@poa.st: :wear
<2023-01-08T08:56:01.000Z> graf@poa.st: 😩 
<2023-01-08T08:56:31.000Z> chudbere: Zoom is Corey Barnhill he is a admitted pedophile, groomed a girlfriend into watching CP, hacked a bunch of nanny cams and said creepy fucking shit through them, it made national news
<2023-01-08T08:56:52.000Z> chudbere: Now he is using a false last name and is the CTO at Path.net 
<2023-01-08T08:57:40.000Z> chudbere: CowPoly on poast is one of his group
<2023-01-08T08:58:26.000Z> chudbere: They dox and swat people for fun and also when people like Ralph pay them, they are called "plate gang" 
<2023-01-08T08:59:08.000Z> chudbere: It's all so fucking stupid I swear, but yes warn your mods
<2023-01-08T08:59:52.000Z> chudbere: They will not hesitate for a moment to do life ruination shit
<2023-01-08T09:06:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: alright i will do that this morning, most are asleep its just me and the euro ones
<2023-01-08T09:07:23.000Z> chudbere: No worries I just wanted you to be aware I'm seeing an uptick in people associated with all that discord doxing and swatting stuff around 
<2023-01-08T09:07:40.000Z> chudbere: And I know you have already had problems with being targeted 
<2023-01-08T09:08:26.000Z> chudbere: So just be careful 👍 
<2023-01-08T09:09:14.000Z> graf@poa.st: thank you i appreciate it
<2023-01-08T09:10:07.000Z> chudbere: No problem 
<2023-01-10T21:49:56.000Z> chudbere: Elaine is making youtube videos about me now
<2023-01-10T22:20:36.000Z> chudbere: It's all pretty harmless petty shit, she didn't post my address or anything 
<2023-01-10T22:44:01.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah if there's no dox and she's not harassing you by tagging you i dont see what i can realistically do about it
<2023-01-10T22:44:15.000Z> graf@poa.st: if she does do something let me know but this we cant really do anything about as its not on poast and its not really dox
<2023-01-10T22:44:50.000Z> chudbere: oh i didn't want you to do anything
<2023-01-10T22:45:05.000Z> chudbere: i just wanted you to be aware that she's probably gonna start doing this to anyone she dislikes
<2023-01-11T08:47:00.000Z> graf@poa.st: chudbuds.lol/notice/ARWoUARzWh5dzSyztw
<2023-01-11T08:47:06.000Z> graf@poa.st: you guys have your own elaine 
<2023-01-11T08:47:19.000Z> graf@poa.st: this guy told me he created the phrase "poast" and was going to sue me over copywrite 
<2023-01-11T08:47:22.000Z> graf@poa.st: copywright?
<2023-01-11T08:47:24.000Z> graf@poa.st: whatever
<2023-01-11T08:47:37.000Z> graf@poa.st: copyroight into the news*
<2023-01-11T08:47:43.000Z> chudbere: Oh yes I'm dealing with his schizo ass now
<2023-01-11T08:48:32.000Z> chudbere: Strangely he has been a member for a little bit but I don't recall him acting like a nutjob before
<2023-01-11T08:48:36.000Z> graf@poa.st: he made an account here, was banned after maybe 3 months when someone pointed him out to me and threatened to sue me then write an ED article about me, etc
<2023-01-11T08:48:44.000Z> graf@poa.st: he wasnt on poast, either
<2023-01-11T08:49:14.000Z> graf@poa.st: he went from normal sperg i asked to stop replyguying me to months later burning everything down because he "used poast in a phrase before we existed"
<2023-01-11T08:49:33.000Z> chudbere: Today another user here noticed him and apparently knows who he is and started hellthreading with him all day today
<2023-01-11T08:50:41.000Z> chudbere: He's mad I told him to not threaten to dox the other guy, because the other guy linked to his KF thread 
<2023-01-11T08:51:18.000Z> chudbere: And my position on that is if you have a KF thread about you, that's not my fault and we allow KF links here
<2023-01-11T08:52:01.000Z> chudbere: He's arguing with me right now and I'm waiting for him to start threatening to sue me
<2023-01-11T08:52:19.000Z> chudbere: Would not be the first lawsuit threat I have had this week lol
<2023-01-11T09:04:14.000Z> chudbere: You said he threatened to write an ED article on you. Did he ever do it?
<2023-01-11T09:26:02.000Z> graf@poa.st: I'm not sure, sorry friend. if I googled myself id probably not continue with poast 
<2023-01-11T09:27:04.000Z> chudbere: I feel you there. I've got Nick Rekieta and a bunch of wine moms who want to skin me alive right now. 
<2023-01-15T02:09:26.000Z> chudbere: hey just passing on a message, Ariel wanted me to ask you if you can delete her poast account over there
<2023-01-15T02:09:37.000Z> chudbere: she said she can't log into it to delete it herself
<2023-01-15T02:10:10.000Z> graf@poa.st: OK
<2023-01-15T02:10:18.000Z> chudbere: thank you :)
<2023-01-15T02:10:34.000Z> chudbere: are any of these papers ralph's getting tonight from you lol
<2023-01-15T02:10:35.000Z> graf@poa.st: no idea what the login is tho
<2023-01-15T02:11:11.000Z> chudbere: lemme ask, I think it's Ariel1355 though
<2023-01-15T02:12:17.000Z> chudbere: yeah confirmed thats the one
<2023-01-15T02:12:55.000Z> graf@poa.st: looks like it was already done thats why she cant login
<2023-01-15T02:13:20.000Z> chudbere: okay just hasn't federated here yet then
<2023-01-15T02:13:37.000Z> chudbere: Ralph has been served 5 times tonight I think
<2023-01-16T21:44:56.000Z> chudbere: Xaniberries wanted me to ask if you can delete his account over there as well
<2023-01-16T21:45:21.000Z> chudbere: I told him I'd ask, he had me delete his chudbuds account this morning
<2023-01-16T21:45:23.000Z> graf@poa.st: its been *long* since gone
<2023-01-16T21:45:27.000Z> graf@poa.st: months
<2023-01-16T21:45:44.000Z> graf@poa.st: poa.st/@Xaniberries
<2023-01-16T21:46:09.000Z> chudbere: Okay I figured that was the case but I said I'd pass it on
<2023-01-16T21:46:16.000Z> graf@poa.st: np
<2023-01-16T21:46:28.000Z> chudbere: You getting around better with your foot?
<2023-01-16T21:49:39.000Z> graf@poa.st: actually its come back twice since then so I've had troubles walking for like a month now but its mostly better I think?
<2023-01-16T21:50:30.000Z> chudbere: i'm sorry to hear that, I hope that it stays healed
<2023-01-16T21:51:53.000Z> graf@poa.st: thank you :pray
<2023-01-16T21:51:58.000Z> graf@poa.st: 🙏 
<2023-01-23T09:42:52.000Z> chudbere: just a heads up that book/eris posted my dox tonight and threatened to swat me
<2023-01-23T09:44:16.000Z> chudbere: i've seen the dox get reposted on what I'm assuming are book's alts on other instances a couple times, so if you happen to see any posts like that on your end I'd appreciate if you link me 
<2023-01-23T14:18:46.000Z> graf@poa.st: yes Pete told me on IRC maybe 20 mins ago and OK
<2023-01-23T17:36:50.000Z> chudbere: thank you
<2023-02-04T01:47:58.000Z> graf@poa.st: I would like to start by saying im not trying to dress you down or anything but we are all seeing what you guys are going through and what is happening with your mods and etc and I wanted to give you the best advice I could by telling you how we do it and why we have next to no issues. you can't always be 100% with your choices (and im sorry if this comes off as assholish or whatever)chudbuds.lol/objects/0ace6ba4-bb4a-4043-8713-1ca907a61e6dwhen poast needs moderation due to growth or anything we start by putting out a feeler form mod application:docs.poast.org/apps/forms/s/PtfLBBq7K3ZWFCWeCgibSrJdwe change the questions from time to time. most of it is shit just for us to get a gauge of the user applying. we will run this for several weeks or a month or two and collect applications we will then one weekend evening dedicate an hour or two and milk and I and the other jannies will get on a voice call and we will go through all the applications one by one and sort them into "maybe" and "no" from here we will shortlist 10 or so people and watch them and how they interact with people for a week or two, how they conduct themselves and how they represent themselves and poast we will vc a week or so later depending on availability and we will go over each users strengths and weaknesses and trim that list down to a couple (if we need that many) or one people call me a hardass but we run a really tight ship and this has not let us down yet. from our mods and a lot of fediverse, consider this approach 🙏🏻❤️
<2023-02-04T01:48:39.000Z> chudbere: thank you for the advice!
<2023-02-04T01:49:19.000Z> chudbere: Denny and Mack were the hotheads of the group so I don't expect any other problems going forward, but if I need to get another new mod in the future I'll consider doing applications like that
<2023-02-04T01:50:40.000Z> graf@poa.st: I didn't read anything about it I just saw a bunch of people shitting on you for the jannies you choose so I wanted to share how we do it in case it helps you 
<2023-02-04T01:50:56.000Z> chudbere: I really appreciate that
<2023-02-04T01:51:24.000Z> chudbere: yeah basically I de-modded mackiavelli last night because of ongoing issues with him having too much of a temper and fighting with people who try to get under his skin
<2023-02-04T01:51:38.000Z> chudbere: and he took that poorly and deleted his account
<2023-02-04T01:51:47.000Z> chudbere: think he also deleted his poast account
<2023-02-04T01:52:45.000Z> chudbere: he's been getting made fun of a lot lately cause he started doing streams with Paulyfrog lately and he was doxed (he had his real name as his youtube username *eyeroll*)
<2023-02-04T01:53:19.000Z> chudbere: and I guess he just couldn't handle all the shit-talking
<2023-02-04T01:57:05.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah I can understand it. seeing my shit on the timeline every single day for two years and people calling me pedophile and shit gets to me but it takes a strong minded/willed person to be in the position 
<2023-02-04T01:57:11.000Z> graf@poa.st: if you need help or advice let me know 
<2023-02-04T01:59:00.000Z> chudbere: I will, thank you
<2023-02-04T01:59:21.000Z> chudbere: I'm moving towards taking more of a backseat in the future
<2023-02-04T02:08:37.000Z> graf@poa.st: yeah I don't do much unless I have toone thing we struggled with until we got bigger was finding mods outside of major US timezones 
<2023-02-04T02:08:46.000Z> graf@poa.st: when you get there you don't have to worry much 
<2023-02-10T06:07:36.000Z> chudbere: you any good with python bots?
<2023-02-10T10:26:55.000Z> graf@poa.st: ya but I have less than zero time this week, what are you trying to do 
<2023-02-16T07:02:23.000Z> graf@poa.st: just so you are aware someone attempted to swat me tonight by submitting a tip to the human trafficking people saying i raped and killed an immigrant child and if they didnt do something the blood was on their hands 
<2023-02-16T07:02:30.000Z> graf@poa.st: im not discussing it public but im up to 5 now
<2023-02-16T07:03:19.000Z> chudbere: Jesus Christ man I'm sorry
<2023-02-16T07:03:47.000Z> chudbere: Did this happen tonight or last night? Several people were swatted last night that I aware od
<2023-02-16T07:03:51.000Z> chudbere: Of*
<2023-02-16T07:04:07.000Z> graf@poa.st: it was a tip submitted to these people so it could have happened any time in the last 24 hours
<2023-02-16T07:04:12.000Z> graf@poa.st: I was wondering when mine was coming 
<2023-02-16T07:04:40.000Z> chudbere: I've been expecting one myself since Ralph doxed himself trying to sign up for chudbuds the other night
<2023-02-16T07:04:47.000Z> graf@poa.st: exact same MO as the last time, submitting a report saying i was doing some heinous shit. they have all this info on a file for me so they dont send people in triplicate just a pair of cops to make sure im ok
<2023-02-16T07:05:55.000Z> chudbere: Yeah the people doing it on targets connected to Ralph have been using a TTS voice and calling crisis hotlines instead of 911
<2023-02-16T07:07:53.000Z> chudbere: I also just made a gigantic thread on KF about the leaks that have resulted from Ralph doxing his universal password the other night, so I'm expecting he won't be too happy about that
<2023-02-16T07:30:07.000Z> graf@poa.st: well keep an ear to the ground and let me know. all of my issues with police are being collected and used when a bunch of us go after hillary seargent for the dox articles 
<2023-02-16T07:31:38.000Z> chudbere: I will, I may be able to get you contact info on the FBI agent who was investigating the swattings of Jim and Vickers last summer for you to forward your stuff to as well. 
<2023-02-16T07:32:06.000Z> chudbere: Pretty sure Gator has that agents info, I haven't sent my stuff yet though
<2023-02-16T08:37:06.000Z> graf@poa.st: ill ask him, thank you
<2023-02-22T20:58:25.000Z> chudbere: do you know what causes the chat window to not load older messages
<2023-02-22T20:59:03.000Z> chudbere: it seems like since the last update or two i've done if you scroll up in a chat, it just hits a wall and does a loading circle forever at you
<2023-02-22T20:59:28.000Z> chudbere: the messages still exist, I can see them in Admin FE
<2023-02-22T22:51:31.000Z> graf@poa.st: i think thats probably some kind of bug
<2023-02-22T22:51:36.000Z> graf@poa.st: I will look into it in a bit
<2023-02-22T23:03:24.000Z> chudbere: Thanks
