<2022-11-18T00:02:37.000Z> chudbere: Something you can't tell anyone because I don't want to give it attention so we have only told mods is that we were swatted again yesterday morning
<2022-11-18T00:03:38.000Z> chudbere: I don't know if this is poast users doing it, viewers of R alph, kiwifarmers trying to stir shit, or what
<2022-11-18T00:03:53.000Z> chudbere: I'm just doing my best to keep the peace basically
<2022-11-18T00:04:05.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: pmg
<2022-11-18T00:04:22.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: omg are you guys all right?
<2022-11-18T00:06:36.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: you’ve talked to the local, county, and state police right? Some departments will work with you and ask for a contact number if someone calls in about your address
<2022-11-18T00:14:54.000Z> chudbere: Oh yes they already know after the first time
<2022-11-18T00:15:11.000Z> chudbere: They called ahead it was about 5am yesterday
<2022-11-18T00:15:33.000Z> chudbere: Dispatch called me to make sure everything was okay  but they still have to send someone of course 
<2022-11-18T00:18:06.000Z> chudbere: One sec I'm changing a diaper then I can type easier
<2022-11-18T00:23:07.000Z> chudbere: So yeah I think they were trying to catch us while we were sleeping this time or something. Jokes on them because two babies means we are up all hours
<2022-11-18T00:24:24.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Hmm that’s such a shitty thing to do. So they didn’t force entry or anything?
<2022-11-18T00:24:33.000Z> chudbere: They didn't have me at gunpoint this time or cuffed and put in the car. They met me at the gate, followed me up the drive to the house, did a brief check and were gone in 5 minutes
<2022-11-18T00:24:54.000Z> chudbere: Oh, no, we have a long drive and a gate 
<2022-11-18T00:25:33.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: you should FOIA the 911 call, you’ll at least know what they sound like and you can compare it other streamers
<2022-11-18T00:25:54.000Z> chudbere: Last time they called ahead as well but since it was the first incident they had guns on me etc
<2022-11-18T00:27:46.000Z> chudbere: So here's the thing, a lot of streamers in this "sphere" have been swatted lately. Rekieta, I JUST LOST NRN's ex baby mama, Tim Pool, I JUST LOST NRN himself etc. The people always use a spoofed number and text to speech for the voice instead of their actual voice
<2022-11-18T00:29:08.000Z> chudbere: For the incident yesterday morning the cops told me someone had called a crisis hotline this time, and the crisis hotline contacted the cops
<2022-11-18T00:29:19.000Z> chudbere: So there isn't even a 911 call this time
<2022-11-18T00:29:38.000Z> chudbere: Whoever is doing it knows what they are doing and how to hide their tracks
<2022-11-18T00:29:49.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Hmm.. weird. Why are people even after you at all?
<2022-11-18T00:30:20.000Z> chudbere: No idea. The first time was during a live stream, 3 days after I made chudbuds
<2022-11-18T00:30:46.000Z> chudbere: I was talking about Keffals vs kiwifarms and keffals vs nick rekieta at the time
<2022-11-18T00:31:06.000Z> chudbere: But I don't think the Troon squad is doing it
<2022-11-18T00:32:15.000Z> chudbere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkvtS1dIHBE&ab_channel=ClaireBere
<2022-11-18T00:32:28.000Z> chudbere: this is the video from my car from the first swatting
<2022-11-18T00:33:14.000Z> chudbere: i just saw on twitter that chrissie mayr was swatted twice in the last 24 hours too, once during her live stream last night and again this morning
<2022-11-18T00:34:39.000Z> chudbere: so it's really hard to figure out who is doing it. I'm not a streamer of any major viewership, I average like 30 viewers on twitch usually. I JUST LOST NRN and his audience didn't even know who i was when the first swatting happened
<2022-11-18T00:35:42.000Z> chudbere: but I HAD just made chudbuds when the first swatting happened, and it had gotten a couple hundred people already because of graf advertising it on poast, so my feeling is that one was someone from the fediverse
<2022-11-18T00:35:55.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Hmm wtf
<2022-11-18T00:36:34.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I’ve never seen you feud with anyone on fedi, but the time frames lining up are very suspicious
<2022-11-18T00:36:38.000Z> chudbere: since then I JUST LOST NRN has learned who I am and hates me/chudbuds, and I guess he talked about me briefly on his show two nights ago (so the night before this swatting)
<2022-11-18T00:37:48.000Z> chudbere: groypers/I JUST LOST NRN viewers are believed to have been responsible for some of the other swattings, a leaker from America First's discord leaked the 911 call made when they swatted Metokur earlier this summer
<2022-11-18T00:38:09.000Z> chudbere: like the text-to-speech call from their end
<2022-11-18T00:38:40.000Z> chudbere: they probably were also the ones who swatted Faith Vickers, I JUST LOST NRN's ex (mother of their son, Xander)
<2022-11-18T00:40:48.000Z> chudbere: https://youtu.be/kRHGpMF0Amw?t=207
<2022-11-18T00:41:08.000Z> chudbere: the call audio from Metokur's swatting in in this video (timestamped, starts right after that)
<2022-11-18T00:45:48.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Wow. Do people actually like R*lph and follow him unironically?
<2022-11-18T00:46:15.000Z> chudbere: yeah, some do. He has a few whales
<2022-11-18T00:46:30.000Z> chudbere: they probably donate like 80% of what he makes in a stream
<2022-11-18T00:47:03.000Z> chudbere: He's gained fans among some of the groypers because he sucks Nick Fuente's dick so effectively
<2022-11-18T00:47:51.000Z> chudbere: to be honest, I used to like I JUST LOST NRN's show several years ago, back when Gator and Zidan were still on it and Metokur would guest frequently
<2022-11-18T00:48:10.000Z> chudbere: he is not a bad interviewer, he has a talent for getting good guests
<2022-11-18T00:48:46.000Z> chudbere: but he has really spiraled off the deep end the last few years, burning every bridge he comes to in spectacular fashion
<2022-11-18T00:49:23.000Z> chudbere: making some really bad and fucked up decisions, being a gigantic piece of shit in many ways
<2022-11-18T00:50:14.000Z> chudbere: I don't hate the guy even now, I just kind of feel pity for him
<2022-11-18T00:51:04.000Z> chudbere: even as fucked up as he has been, I don't think he deserves some of the shit people do to him, like swatting him or trying to find out where he lives now so he can be swatted again, trying to get him put in jail
<2022-11-18T00:52:09.000Z> chudbere: but yeah, anyway I just wanted to tell you about the swatting yesterday morning. I'm guessing it was precipitated by all the tension between poast and chudbuds lately
<2022-11-18T00:52:20.000Z> chudbere: idk if you've been following that
<2022-11-18T00:52:36.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Yeah, I’ve only ever seen the metokur ones, I h a t e his voice
<2022-11-18T00:53:17.000Z> chudbere: it started with that thread where Kinochet tagged nozaki @ mugicha.club
<2022-11-18T00:53:47.000Z> chudbere: nozaki jumped on his poast account and reported it to graf, who then assumed Kinochet had tagged the poast account 
<2022-11-18T00:53:49.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: im going to dig into this and ask around to see if I can find any information. Don’t worry, I won’t tell anyone about the swatting.
<2022-11-18T00:54:08.000Z> chudbere: so he banned Kinochet's poast account, then defederated his Chudbuds account
<2022-11-18T00:54:25.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: that whole thing was so retarded
<2022-11-18T00:54:34.000Z> chudbere: so that's continued to escalate
<2022-11-18T00:54:45.000Z> chudbere: Graf wouldn't change his mind even though he admits it was a mistake
<2022-11-18T00:54:56.000Z> chudbere: Kinochet is doing everything he can to piss graf off
<2022-11-18T00:55:06.000Z> chudbere: he emailed graf asking for a refund of donations he'd made
<2022-11-18T00:55:22.000Z> chudbere: graf published the email including Kinochet's email address, claiming it wasn't dox
<2022-11-18T00:56:32.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I saw that! Kinochet said graf is lying, that he never posted his email anywhere
<2022-11-18T00:57:01.000Z> chudbere: yep, and as far as I can tell he didn't, I checked all of Kinochet's socials to make sure it wasn't listed, even did a google search for the email
<2022-11-18T00:57:03.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: its very likely graf “remembered” from looking at his sign up email
<2022-11-18T00:57:53.000Z> chudbere: so yeah, I deleted the post on our end so the email wouldn't be visible here
<2022-11-18T00:58:12.000Z> chudbere: THAT blowup all happened the night before the latest swatting
<2022-11-18T00:58:35.000Z> chudbere: so could be related to that too
<2022-11-18T00:59:32.000Z> chudbere: so: Chudbuds made September 16th. First swatting september 19th about 10:30PM while I was live on Twitch, talking about Keffals vs Kiwi farms. I JUST LOST NRN and his audience do not know who I am at this point. 
<2022-11-18T01:00:13.000Z> chudbere: Second swatting: November 16th, about 4:30-5ish AM, morning after a big blow up between chudbuds and poast, also morning after I JUST LOST NRN has briefly talked about me on his stream
<2022-11-18T01:03:12.000Z> chudbere: personally, my money is on it being a poast user who doesn't like chudbuds taking users (cause we had an influx before the first swatting and another before the 2nd because of people moving here to follow kinochet), a groyper who joined poast during the whole september influx, or maybe just a 3rd party doing it to stir shit between the two instances
<2022-11-18T01:05:54.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Hmm well the number of people with an interest in poast not losing users is very limited, but I agree. For the first swatting, was that the first stream you did after starting chudbuds?
<2022-11-18T01:06:08.000Z> chudbere: yeah i think so
<2022-11-18T01:06:37.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Has anyone publicly alogged you on any platform?
<2022-11-18T01:06:37.000Z> chudbere: I haven't been streaming much since our youngest was born in april, she still doesn't have a consistent sleep schedule 
<2022-11-18T01:06:45.000Z> chudbere: no not at all
<2022-11-18T01:06:58.000Z> chudbere: i mean, since I started chudbuds yes
<2022-11-18T01:07:05.000Z> chudbere: but that was all after the swatting
<2022-11-18T01:08:16.000Z> chudbere: I'm a pretty laid-back person, I do my best to get along with everyone and keep the peace, you're right when you say i haven't feuded with anyone here really
<2022-11-18T01:08:29.000Z> chudbere: it's just not my style
<2022-11-18T01:12:50.000Z> chudbere: https://chudbuds.lol/@pas@a.sc
<2022-11-18T01:12:56.000Z> chudbere: this guy has a chudbuds account
<2022-11-18T01:13:08.000Z> chudbere: he is temporarily banned until december 1st so you can't see his TL
<2022-11-18T01:13:20.000Z> chudbere: but he's made posts trying to alog me
<2022-11-18T01:13:47.000Z> chudbere: posted jokes about gang raping me with groypers while watching the killstream
<2022-11-18T01:20:16.000Z> chudbere: oh, you can still see his TL from poast https://poa.st/@I JUST LOST NRNAMALE@chudbuds.lol
<2022-11-18T01:20:55.000Z> chudbere: fucking wordfilter https://poa.st/@RALP HAMALE@chudbuds.lol (remove the space)
<2022-11-18T01:21:10.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Chat sucks so much on mobile
<2022-11-18T01:21:40.000Z> chudbere: jesus yes it does
<2022-11-18T01:21:58.000Z> chudbere: sometimes it doesn't even update with the notification that someone has replied
<2022-11-18T01:22:47.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Alex said it’s getting a lot of improvements soon
<2022-11-18T01:23:13.000Z> chudbere: that would be nice, one thing I really want is the ability to "close" a chat from the list
<2022-11-18T01:23:36.000Z> chudbere: my list is a mile long of people messaging me for various crap like checkmarks, etc
<2022-11-18T01:24:01.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: so wait, pas@a.sc is I JUST LOST NRNamale@chudbuds
<2022-11-18T01:24:07.000Z> chudbere: yes
<2022-11-18T01:24:24.000Z> chudbere: he made an alt there after I temp banned him here for losing NRN
<2022-11-18T01:25:09.000Z> chudbere: he wasn't changing his pfp and stuff and demanded feet pics to do it, so i made a poll: feet pics or ban until december 1st
<2022-11-18T01:25:17.000Z> chudbere: the ban won (barely)
<2022-11-18T01:25:27.000Z> chudbere: it was pretty funny
<2022-11-18T01:27:09.000Z> chudbere: his timeline is a mess because he has his twitter setup to repost his tweets and retweets here
<2022-11-18T01:30:56.000Z> chudbere: i don't take him that seriously tbh he's a shitposter extreme
<2022-11-18T01:32:50.000Z> chudbere: but that's the only alog I can really think of
<2022-11-18T01:34:24.000Z> chudbere: he's very into rape and feet it seems 
<2022-11-18T01:37:29.000Z> chudbere: lol i looked up the source of his avatar, he does speedruns of club penguin
<2022-11-18T01:37:31.000Z> chudbere: https://www.speedrun.com/user/PASRC
<2022-11-18T01:38:49.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: lmao
<2022-11-18T01:39:08.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: ok so he uses a consistent username, that’s helpful. 
<2022-11-18T01:39:39.000Z> chudbere: yeah there are several profiles linked on that speedrun account
<2022-11-18T01:39:42.000Z> chudbere: twitch, youtube etc
<2022-11-18T01:41:44.000Z> chudbere: the SRC in the username there stands for speedrun.com he's a moderator on the Club Penguin leaderboards it looks like
<2022-11-18T01:44:56.000Z> chudbere: https://www.youtube.com/@CPSRC
<2022-11-18T01:45:12.000Z> chudbere: i think this is also him, all of his submitted runs on speedrun are uploaded on this channel
<2022-11-18T02:24:57.000Z> chudbere: https://poa.st/@nigga@seal.cafe
<2022-11-18T02:25:08.000Z> chudbere: he's on your instance too lol
<2022-11-18T02:26:41.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I look through Twitter… couldn’t really find much beyond someone complaining that he was trolling trannies and the speed run stuff
<2022-11-18T02:28:04.000Z> chudbere: yeah i kind of doubt that he's the one swatting us
<2022-11-18T02:28:21.000Z> chudbere: it'd be kind of obvious after all the alogging tbh
<2022-11-18T02:29:47.000Z> chudbere: i appreciate you wanting to look into this
<2022-11-18T03:51:40.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Of course, np. I'll let you know if I find anything
<2022-11-18T04:54:07.000Z> chudbere: My gut feeling is that it's groypers, or someone connected to ral ph
<2022-11-18T04:54:32.000Z> chudbere: Possibly someone from Zoom's group plate gang, they like to stir shit
<2022-12-03T20:13:26.000Z> chudbere: Since you seem to know all the fedi gossip. What happened with nicecrew and evening zoo yesterday?
<2022-12-03T21:24:59.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: It was apparently some drama they all had on gab
<2022-12-03T21:26:16.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I’m not sure why billington was flipping out at radix, I’ll have to follow up on that. But they seem to really hate preciouspeach because she calls them poor and they think she’s jewish lol
<2022-12-03T21:28:21.000Z> chudbere: Someone said radix was doxing people 
<2022-12-03T22:34:10.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: She denied it, but it may have happened on gab. All I saw was billington posting a private chat with a pic of gravel gerties legs, and apparently she’s married so I dunno…
<2022-12-03T22:42:41.000Z> chudbere: Sounds all very gay 
<2022-12-03T22:43:01.000Z> chudbere: Which is par for the course on most fedi drama
<2022-12-03T23:28:22.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I think fedi drama is fun because you can directly participate and make people seethe lol
<2022-12-03T23:31:25.000Z> chudbere: I think I tend to gravitate to the "look, don't touch" philosophy of drama lol
<2022-12-03T23:31:37.000Z> chudbere: Like visiting the zoo
<2022-12-05T05:21:55.000Z> chudbere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR3QJkeffw4
<2022-12-05T05:22:04.000Z> chudbere: this may have been the documentary
<2022-12-05T05:22:15.000Z> chudbere: but it seems a little more polished than I remember
<2022-12-05T05:23:18.000Z> chudbere: if there is a scene somewhere from someone's house (in north korea I think) where they are showing off some of the bootleg movie dvds they have, then that's the right one
<2022-12-05T05:34:00.000Z> chudbere: or i could be confusing it with another documentary where someone travels inside north korea and does some secret filming
<2022-12-05T05:34:21.000Z> chudbere: either way this one seems pretty interesting 
<2022-12-05T19:25:32.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Oh thanks, I’ll check it out. It’s an interesting situation anyway
<2022-12-05T19:27:18.000Z> chudbere: Seeing the perspective of the smugglers taking money to move these people through China to South Korea is part of what's most interesting
<2022-12-27T04:37:22.000Z> chudbere: Hey are you okay?
<2022-12-27T04:37:50.000Z> chudbere: Chris and I aren't mad at you and we definitely don't want you to quit fedi over this
<2022-12-30T01:48:55.000Z> chudbere: <3
<2022-12-30T01:49:07.000Z> chudbere: Is book the kf.cc eris
<2022-12-30T01:49:30.000Z> chudbere: Or are they the tranny disqordia eris
<2022-12-30T01:57:30.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: kfcc
<2022-12-30T01:58:27.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I’ve never seen tranny eris cause problems actually, but it’s happened according to some people.
<2022-12-30T02:00:33.000Z> chudbere: Gotcha 
<2022-12-30T02:00:42.000Z> chudbere: I'm glad you're back btw
<2022-12-30T02:00:57.000Z> chudbere: We were worried you quit
<2023-01-01T01:56:35.000Z> chudbere: you're my friend <3
<2023-01-01T02:26:40.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: 🤍
<2023-01-01T02:27:38.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I was just kidding though. Sorry for not responding to your other messages btw, I've just been busy
<2023-01-01T17:39:39.000Z> chudbere: <3
<2023-01-01T17:40:40.000Z> chudbere: No worries, soapbox doesn't give me notifications when people reply to chat unless I refresh so I figured you just hadn't seen them
<2023-01-17T05:19:25.000Z> chudbere: i don't feel like explaining again in the thread because it will just trigger Denny to sperg out further
<2023-01-17T05:19:40.000Z> chudbere: but this happened a couple weeks ago and I already made a post about it
<2023-01-17T05:20:08.000Z> chudbere: tldr he secretly shared a screencap of our mod chat with PodAwful to start drama with Mackivelli who he doesn't like
<2023-01-17T05:20:27.000Z> chudbere: then when he admitted to it, I asked him to go in mod chat and apologize to everyone
<2023-01-17T05:21:11.000Z> chudbere: instead he started a massive fight with mack, blamed mack and said it was his fault he leaked the screencap, that it wasn't a big deal he leaked it because it wasn't important information, and that it was okay because mack deserved it
<2023-01-17T05:21:38.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: why is there a secret mod chat anyway?
<2023-01-17T05:22:23.000Z> chudbere: i mean it's not like a secret, but we can't do group chats on here and we use it to discuss when someone is banned/defederated or whatever
<2023-01-17T05:22:37.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: is it on matrix?
<2023-01-17T05:22:49.000Z> chudbere: like i have a channel where we log if we've defederated an account and for why
<2023-01-17T05:22:54.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: what did denny share though?
<2023-01-17T05:23:21.000Z> chudbere: a screenshot of mack chiding dick molesterson for giving PodAwful a fake Moderator tag as a prank
<2023-01-17T05:23:44.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: lol
<2023-01-17T05:23:49.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: why does that matter?
<2023-01-17T05:24:34.000Z> chudbere: it wasn't anything sensitive or important, but suddenly podawful shares a screencap of mod chat and it was like, well obviously someone in here is feeding info to Jesse
<2023-01-17T05:24:55.000Z> chudbere: what else may have been shared? maybe where I told the mods about being swatted a 2nd time?
<2023-01-17T05:25:10.000Z> chudbere: it broke trust, you know?
<2023-01-17T05:25:41.000Z> chudbere: and like i said, i was ready to forgive Denny and let it just be in the past
<2023-01-17T05:25:50.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I guess, I wouldn't share anything sensitive with jannies unless I really trusted them
<2023-01-17T05:26:19.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Well I don't really know him, but otoh the mack stuff about threatening to dox people is also sus
<2023-01-17T05:26:21.000Z> chudbere: but instead of apologizing he just came in guns blazing and blamed everything he'd done on Mack, said it wasn't a big deal and I shouldn't be upset, etc
<2023-01-17T05:26:40.000Z> chudbere: did you see the context I posted on that?
<2023-01-17T05:26:58.000Z> chudbere: i shared the full convo
<2023-01-17T05:27:45.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I did but I didn't really see how the context mattered beyond him seemingly laughing at it
<2023-01-17T05:28:06.000Z> chudbere: remember NRN? 
<2023-01-17T05:28:13.000Z> chudbere: Mack lost on the 3rd day or something
<2023-01-17T05:28:27.000Z> chudbere: Xani sent a screencap of the post mack made that caused him to lose
<2023-01-17T05:28:37.000Z> chudbere: (read from bottom up)
<2023-01-17T05:29:39.000Z> chudbere: they continue joking and laughing for days after that
<2023-01-17T05:29:43.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I did read it (bottom up) lol
<2023-01-17T05:29:51.000Z> chudbere: xani was poking fun at mack for losing NRN
<2023-01-17T05:29:51.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: but then xaniberries left right?
<2023-01-17T05:30:00.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: so what does denny have to do wit hthat?
<2023-01-17T05:30:24.000Z> chudbere: and mack made a joke equivalent to "i will kill you in your sleep"
<2023-01-17T05:30:39.000Z> chudbere: and they were laughing about how he was going to keep an eye on Xani to see if he lost NRN too
<2023-01-17T05:30:46.000Z> chudbere: so, this morning
<2023-01-17T05:31:01.000Z> chudbere: Xani sends an EXTREMELY cropped version of that conversation to Denny
<2023-01-17T05:31:16.000Z> chudbere: which just has the bit where mack says I'm gonna dox you/kill you
<2023-01-17T05:31:46.000Z> chudbere: Denny posts it, claiming that Mack was seriously threatening Xani
<2023-01-17T05:32:15.000Z> chudbere: cause they want to make Mack look unhinged and make me look evil for "protecting" him
<2023-01-17T05:32:19.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: But isn't he also a janny that could see DMs and check if that's what actually happened?
<2023-01-17T05:32:38.000Z> chudbere: Denny was removed as mod a couple weeks ago
<2023-01-17T05:32:48.000Z> chudbere: plus mods can't see them, only admins
<2023-01-17T05:32:51.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Ohh
<2023-01-17T05:33:04.000Z> chudbere: and at any rate, Denny doesn't care that the context is missing
<2023-01-17T05:33:09.000Z> chudbere: he is on a vendetta at this point
<2023-01-17T05:33:37.000Z> chudbere: so I replied with the full context of the conversation where it clearly shows it was a joke and that Xani and Mack were never fighting
<2023-01-17T05:33:55.000Z> chudbere: Then Xani and I talked in DMs and he asked me to delete his account
<2023-01-17T05:34:10.000Z> chudbere: I think between this and the whole Pantsu sex tape gay op he's tired of the internet
<2023-01-17T05:34:19.000Z> chudbere: said he's taking a break from everything
<2023-01-17T05:34:32.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I know he's on twitter
<2023-01-17T05:34:44.000Z> chudbere: yeah that's where we talked after I deleted his accounts for him
<2023-01-17T05:34:55.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: wait so is xani the one that started the whole pantsu fake s*x tape thing?
<2023-01-17T05:35:24.000Z> chudbere: yeah sorta. there's a thread on KF about it
<2023-01-17T05:35:40.000Z> chudbere: KillAllPedos made the screenshot of her face from a video where pantsu was eating tacos
<2023-01-17T05:35:51.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I read it but it's all so much lol
<2023-01-17T05:36:00.000Z> chudbere: he posted in the thread admitting to it and showing their DMs in their group chat
<2023-01-17T05:36:03.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: You guys have so much going on, it's impossible to keep up
<2023-01-17T05:36:29.000Z> chudbere: he suggested that Xani or Kinochet send the screencap to ralph privately and claim Digibro had made a sex tape with her
<2023-01-17T05:37:13.000Z> chudbere: instead Xani posted it on Twitter, and they thought people would call it fake immediately, but people bit and so then after the fact Kino and Xani got other people like Kino Casino and even Pantsu's dad to act like it was real
<2023-01-17T05:37:33.000Z> chudbere: which lasted about 6 hours tops until someone found the original taco video the screencap is from
<2023-01-17T05:38:00.000Z> chudbere: then everyone started calling them retards over it
<2023-01-17T05:38:01.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: lol
<2023-01-17T05:38:12.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Yeah people were seething about that all day
<2023-01-17T05:38:27.000Z> chudbere: and the fallout on that has gotten over the top, ppl talking about ethics in alogging and shit
<2023-01-17T05:38:31.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Is it some huge sin to do stuff like that?
<2023-01-17T05:38:37.000Z> chudbere: yeah kinda
<2023-01-17T05:38:56.000Z> chudbere: basically the main thought on KF is it's better to observe and see what lolcows do on their own
<2023-01-17T05:39:08.000Z> chudbere: if you interfere to intentionally cause drama, that's called touching the poo
<2023-01-17T05:39:39.000Z> chudbere: and since it was a fake tape, it makes Ralph look better, and makes future drama involving him suspect
<2023-01-17T05:39:42.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Hmm ok
<2023-01-17T05:39:53.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Yeah, I can see that
<2023-01-17T05:40:01.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: It's just weird how that intersects with fedi drama
<2023-01-17T05:40:13.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: But i guess it's a totally different thing
<2023-01-17T05:40:32.000Z> chudbere: there's just a ton of crossover between here and KF
<2023-01-17T05:40:38.000Z> chudbere: personally i think the sex tape thing is overblown
<2023-01-17T05:40:56.000Z> chudbere: it was prob a bad idea but it was not some massive planned gayop just a joke that snowballed
<2023-01-17T05:41:16.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Is that why people were so angry about what's her name
<2023-01-17T05:41:21.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Isabella
<2023-01-17T05:41:26.000Z> chudbere: oh yes
<2023-01-17T05:41:33.000Z> chudbere: she didn't just touch the poo with CWC
<2023-01-17T05:41:36.000Z> chudbere: she was bathing in it
<2023-01-17T05:41:57.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: yeah.. that was crazy
<2023-01-17T05:42:00.000Z> chudbere: then once they started digging into her background they found all this other horrible shit she had been doing at her college to other students she didn't like
<2023-01-17T05:42:18.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I wonder if there were more people involved than seems apparent
<2023-01-17T05:42:33.000Z> chudbere: she had a little friend group yeah
<2023-01-17T05:42:49.000Z> chudbere: but yeah anyway, Denny is kind of unhinged at this point
<2023-01-17T05:43:01.000Z> chudbere: thinks i demodded him because he made fun of mack
<2023-01-17T05:43:03.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Why did you trust denny though?
<2023-01-17T05:43:39.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I just feel bad for him, and I feel like he'll leave fedi now
<2023-01-17T05:43:44.000Z> chudbere: I am a trusting person, and nobody on the mod team had ever given me reason not to trust them before the leak incident
<2023-01-17T05:44:05.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I'm a lot more skeptical lol
<2023-01-17T05:44:09.000Z> chudbere: i like to believe the best in people and I think everyone deserves a chance
<2023-01-17T05:44:27.000Z> chudbere: people warned me against letting podawful join. against letting kinochet and xani join
<2023-01-17T05:45:02.000Z> chudbere: i stuck my neck out for all of them, defended them against graf when he defederated them all for various reasons
<2023-01-17T05:45:44.000Z> chudbere: Denny is angling to be as shitty as possible right now thinking he can get me to ban him and claim victory
<2023-01-17T05:46:26.000Z> chudbere: instead I'm just being cordial and offered in DMs to help him or Kinochet or anyone else with advice on  how to set up their own instance 
<2023-01-17T05:46:50.000Z> chudbere: i don't care if people make fun of mack or me or anyone else
<2023-01-17T05:47:09.000Z> chudbere: I've had people on chudbuds literally make jokes about raping me and didn't ban them for it
<2023-01-17T05:48:26.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: wait is kinochet getting banned too?
<2023-01-17T05:48:41.000Z> chudbere: but Denny has got it in his head there's some grand conspiracy to get rid of him for making fun of mack, can't accept it's because he broke my trust then turned around and acted like a complete narcissist by minimizing what he did and blaming it on everyone else
<2023-01-17T05:48:51.000Z> chudbere: no
<2023-01-17T05:48:51.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I don't know any of these people btw, except like maybe by mention through mister metokur videos
<2023-01-17T05:49:09.000Z> chudbere: I only banned Xani because he asked me to earlier today
<2023-01-17T05:49:31.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Secret janny chats are a mistake imo
<2023-01-17T05:49:46.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I'm not a janny though
<2023-01-17T05:49:51.000Z> chudbere: and like a week ago I banned Jesse/PodAwful because he got into some fight with a newbie, then sent him an IP logger in DMs and said he was gonna kill the guy
<2023-01-17T05:50:05.000Z> chudbere: which unlike the convo between mack and xani, was clearly NOT a joke
<2023-01-17T05:50:57.000Z> chudbere: i get where you're coming from but it's kind of necessary from a communication and bookkeeping standpoint if that makes sense
<2023-01-17T05:51:09.000Z> chudbere: like when the pantsu sex tape thing started
<2023-01-17T05:51:29.000Z> chudbere: I just was able to go in there, warn all the mods to keep an eye out and be sure to delete it if people started posting it here
<2023-01-17T05:51:40.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: lmao wtf? the ip logger thing is real?
<2023-01-17T05:53:31.000Z> chudbere: he's claimed it wasn't a 'REAL' ip logger
<2023-01-17T05:53:43.000Z> chudbere: like what, I'm supposed to click the link and test it Jesse?
<2023-01-17T05:53:56.000Z> chudbere: anyway both he and the newbie he was fighting with were banned
<2023-01-17T05:54:16.000Z> chudbere: the newbie for making a veiled threat to swat Jesse
<2023-01-17T05:54:24.000Z> chudbere: Jesse for the ip logger and saying he was going to kill him
<2023-01-17T05:55:31.000Z> chudbere: FWIW I even offered to unban Jesse after ralphamania because of the toilet tank serving papers he hid there at the lodge and managed to pull off, which was funny as fuck
<2023-01-17T05:55:41.000Z> chudbere: he declined so *shrug*
<2023-01-17T05:56:17.000Z> chudbere: anyway I'm not banning Kinochet or Denny unless one of them does something flagrantly against the rules to force me to
<2023-01-17T05:56:36.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I think Elon is working on encrypted DMs on twitter so I wonder how that'll go
<2023-01-17T05:56:52.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I don't think they'll be on fedi anytime soon
<2023-01-17T05:57:04.000Z> chudbere: the whole thing is a lot of gay retardation and it made my husband deactivate his account cause he's tired of all the drama people start and he had spent like 3 weeks on a new poster project featuring the avatars of people from chudbuds
<2023-01-17T05:57:27.000Z> chudbere: and like 4 or 5 of the people on it have either left or been banned or will probably be leaving to their own instance soon like Denny
<2023-01-17T05:57:54.000Z> chudbere: so he's like "fuck it, i'm not going to finish it, why waste time on people who are going to act like this to you"
<2023-01-17T05:58:22.000Z> chudbere: cause at this point to replace those people on the poster would be a massive pain, it was nearly done
<2023-01-17T05:59:00.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Wait shotgun deactivated his account??
<2023-01-17T05:59:09.000Z> chudbere: yep
<2023-01-17T05:59:15.000Z> chudbere: he will be back eventually
<2023-01-17T05:59:25.000Z> chudbere: but taking a break cause this stuff today really made him mad
<2023-01-17T05:59:51.000Z> chudbere: Denny, Xani, Kinochet, even Jesse, we've been on good terms with all of them up until all this shit with denny started a couple weeks ago
<2023-01-17T05:59:51.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Hmm that does seem frustrating 
<2023-01-17T06:01:02.000Z> chudbere: he will be back sometime, he occasionally takes breaks when he decides the internet is taking too much of his time and isn't worth it when he could be working on a comic instead
<2023-01-17T06:01:48.000Z> chudbere: but yeah i think this shit really upset him cause he knows how hard I've tried to build something nice here and keep the peace with various people who dislike each other
<2023-01-17T06:02:41.000Z> chudbere: and then people I've stuck my neck out for defending them turn around and try to tear it down instead of just talking to me like adults about their greivances
<2023-01-17T06:03:24.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I have no experience with this beyond just ignoring people that annoy me and that seems to work ok lol
<2023-01-17T06:03:41.000Z> chudbere: haha well don't ever start a tard wrangling instance i can tell you that much
<2023-01-17T06:05:46.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Are most people on your instance kiwis?
<2023-01-17T06:06:27.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: It's weird how different fedi kiwi culture is from the forums.
<2023-01-17T06:07:31.000Z> chudbere: hmm i think it's a mix
<2023-01-17T06:07:40.000Z> chudbere: I think a good percent probably are
<2023-01-17T06:07:51.000Z> chudbere: maybe as much as 50% even idk
<2023-01-17T06:08:06.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: there's definitely a huge crossover, i can tell from their posts
<2023-01-17T06:08:19.000Z> chudbere: but there's also a ton of normies, people completely new to the fedi who joined because of Jim or the lolcow poster
<2023-01-17T06:08:43.000Z> chudbere: there's been a lot of word of mouth from people unhappy with censorship on twitter 
<2023-01-17T06:09:42.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I'm still annoyed how Elon is going to "deboost" "hate speech"
<2023-01-17T06:10:23.000Z> chudbere: i'll be honest i haven't been following any news about twitter
<2023-01-17T06:10:27.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: That's why I like fedi, but otoh there's just blocks on all of us that aren't psycho pedo trannies
<2023-01-17T06:10:41.000Z> chudbere: i don't even use my twitter except to occasionally message someone who isn't on here
<2023-01-23T08:43:19.000Z> chudbere: book posted my dox and threatened to swat me repeatedly tonight, so that's fun
<2023-01-23T15:35:29.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Wtf
<2023-01-23T15:39:01.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: He seems to fixate on admins. He threatened to swat moon too so he was defederated from spc.
<2023-01-23T18:53:38.000Z> chudbere: Pretty sure Pete defederated him from FSE at one point too
<2023-01-23T19:20:02.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: He’s defeded from poast too obv
<2023-01-23T19:20:31.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: What were you two arguing about?
<2023-01-23T19:22:50.000Z> chudbere: I wasn't arguing with him, I was live streaming and found out afterwards 
<2023-01-23T19:23:27.000Z> chudbere: He was mad about our nutsack emotes and said it was rape and every time someone posted them he would swat me
<2023-01-23T19:23:38.000Z> chudbere: Then he posted and pinned my address
<2023-01-23T19:24:19.000Z> chudbere: And said he thought one of our kids getting shot by cops would teach me a lesson
<2023-01-23T19:40:29.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: omg
<2023-01-23T21:37:46.000Z> chudbere: yeah i don't know why anyone associates with this schizo
<2023-01-23T22:00:21.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: He actually is schizophrenic btw
<2023-01-23T22:03:36.000Z> chudbere: not surprising
<2023-01-23T23:39:02.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Nothing actually happened though right?
<2023-01-23T23:39:32.000Z> chudbere: not so far, no
<2023-01-23T23:39:46.000Z> chudbere: but it's only a matter of time, my address is pinned to his profile
<2023-01-23T23:39:58.000Z> chudbere: and it's now been shared in the poast/chudbuds thread on KF
<2023-01-23T23:40:21.000Z> chudbere: I'm not super concerned, we are already on a list with the local cops
<2023-01-23T23:41:03.000Z> chudbere: but it's def inconvenient when they call me and say they need to come check on us
<2023-01-25T03:53:55.000Z> chudbere: also, bear has been making love song videos for you for 4 days now
<2023-01-25T04:37:20.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: lol
<2023-01-25T04:37:37.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: i have a feeling I don’t want to see them
<2023-01-25T04:37:38.000Z> chudbere: you might be too late though
<2023-01-25T04:37:43.000Z> chudbere: he also made one for Stardust
<2023-01-25T04:37:49.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: What do you mean?
<2023-01-25T04:37:52.000Z> chudbere: and she has now followed him in the last few minutes
<2023-01-25T04:38:25.000Z> chudbere: you could have missed your chance at love with a nordic bear
<2023-01-25T04:38:39.000Z> chudbere: we are probably going to be planning their wedding soon
<2023-01-25T04:45:25.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Meh, I deal with that enough elsewhere, it’s just annoying tbh.
<2023-01-25T04:45:41.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I wouldn’t have muted him if he was making funny content beforehand
<2023-01-25T04:51:26.000Z> chudbere: it's okay
<2023-01-25T04:51:31.000Z> chudbere: you don't have to unmute him
<2023-02-08T06:52:26.000Z> chudbere: Just an FYI I wasn't ghosting you nor did I unfollow you for making fun of people on chudbuds...I unfollowed you because it seemed every time I looked at my home timeline it was you fighting with someone somewhere, and it just got kind of tiresome having all that negativity on my home page. I also saw you saying a lot of mean things about people based on their income level and that didn't sit right with me. I did still check your profile every  day or two to see what you were posting.
<2023-02-08T06:52:46.000Z> chudbere: I wasn't trying to make you feel ghosted or whatever 
<2023-02-08T06:53:24.000Z> chudbere: And I didn't expect you (or anyone) to watch my stream unless it's something they are interested in
<2023-02-08T06:53:42.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: bs
<2023-02-08T06:54:59.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Your users literally attack each other all day over nothing, and I’ve only ever attacked someone over their income level if they’re a troon looking for handouts or someone attacking me
<2023-02-08T06:56:01.000Z> chudbere: I don't even know who it was you were making fun of their income, I just saw a thread where you were calling 45k poverty level or something, I don't think it was someone on chudbuds 
<2023-02-08T06:56:07.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I also know shotgun blocked me over…? Like whatever, it’s fine but don’t pretend like it’s just some random thing.
<2023-02-08T06:56:33.000Z> chudbere: He had me deactivate his account again to focus on work, like..2 days ago
<2023-02-08T06:56:53.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: No, I never said that. Animeirltroon was saying that, I just said he makes more than he does.
<2023-02-08T06:57:21.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: He absolutely blocked me, it wouldn’t say so otherwise.
<2023-02-08T07:00:58.000Z> chudbere: Well I didn't know he did but he is currently deactivated. At any rate I didn't message you to start a fight, I thought it would be more courteous to message you than try to respond to what you said on my post publicly like I was calling you out or something. Which is not my intention
<2023-02-08T07:01:28.000Z> chudbere: Just to try to explain why I unfollowed you since I can see it had upset you
<2023-02-08T07:02:41.000Z> chudbere: There are a lot of people on fedi who really dislike you, and I've tried my best to get along with you. I'm sorry for hurting your feelings by unfollowing you 
<2023-02-08T07:03:52.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I don’t care, whatever. I know there’s more to it since shotgun blocked me, I’m not stupid, and I don’t even buy that excuse given how toxic your users are.
<2023-02-08T07:05:11.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I’m sorry that a bunch of trannies and pedophiles dislike me, but at least you can stay in touch with graf.
<2023-02-08T07:10:53.000Z> chudbere: I just got out of bed and asked him, he said "I blocked her because some of the stuff she's been saying lately was making me feel insulted by proxy (comments about income because we are low income, or the stuff when you told him he was a coomer for drawing anime women). He said he thought it was better to block you so he wouldn't have to see it, and disengage peacefully rather than get into a fight with you or dress you down and make you feel bad. 
<2023-02-08T07:15:10.000Z> chudbere: I wasn't intending to hurt you by unfollowing you either, bot. Like I said it was just that I don't follow a ton of people, and you're definitely one of the most active people I followed, and so when I'd browse my timeline lately it just seemed like a lot of negativity seeing you fighting with people all the time, and like I mentioned before the income comments etc...that's really all there is to it...no other ulterior motives.
<2023-02-08T07:15:43.000Z> chudbere: If you'd like me to follow you again I will, i think there's a way I can mute threads I'm not in now so I can maybe just use that to mute stuff I don't want to see
<2023-02-08T07:15:47.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Ok well you just don’t get what I put up with.
<2023-02-08T07:16:22.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I don’t care if anyone is low income or not, that isn’t actually the point.
<2023-02-08T07:19:05.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I tried to apologise and be thoughtful and promote you guys, but I really don’t like the rest of your users for the most part, so feel free to defederate me so I don’t have to deal with their retarded comments.
<2023-02-08T07:19:36.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: It’s also not going to be “peaceful” he could’ve at least reached out to me to discuss things.
<2023-02-08T07:21:41.000Z> chudbere: "I don't care if anyone is low income or not" Okay well we aren't mind readers and know what you really think, can only go off of what we see you post. Do you understand when we see you dragging someone for something like income that also applies to us, that it kinda sucks to see that?
<2023-02-08T07:21:59.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: It really just proves how detached and artificial it all was. You supposedly care about someone but can’t even talk to them.
<2023-02-08T07:23:07.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Because you don’t understand the background behind it.
<2023-02-08T07:23:44.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Like do you genuinely think I look down on the poorest of people and hate them for it? Really?
<2023-02-08T07:24:22.000Z> chudbere: He cared enough about you to frequently make art for you, memes to make you laugh. And he thought that it would be less hurtful to you to just disengage than try to give you a lecture or something, because last time you hurt our feelings and we let you know, you got very upset and it seemed like you might leave the fediverse entirely. Neither of us wants that
<2023-02-08T07:24:44.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I’d prefer the lecture.
<2023-02-08T07:24:51.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Because this does hurt.
<2023-02-08T07:25:31.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I only said that because I felt so bad.
<2023-02-08T07:27:08.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: I don’t care what someone earns or whatever, that doesn’t factor into anything unless they start attacking me in a similar way. You guys just don’t get it because you’re relatively new and don’t understand existing drama.
<2023-02-08T07:30:11.000Z> chudbere: You're right, there's a lot of existing drama context we don't know...but like I said, we aren't mind readers and we can go off only what we see you post....if what you post isn't the "real" bot or how you really feel, how are we supposed to know that? 
<2023-02-08T07:31:30.000Z> chudbere: if we only see the bot you present to the outside world on fedi, how are we supposed to get to know the real you, what you really feel
<2023-02-08T07:31:48.000Z> chudbere: that's how friendships are built
<2023-02-08T07:32:43.000Z> chudbere: and like I said, i've tried to be a friend to you, and I am sorry for perhaps taking the easy way out by unfollowing instead of talking to you sooner, but I didn't want to hurt you
<2023-02-08T07:35:44.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Um because all of your users talk sh*t all day every day? It’s just part of drama, except I’m targeted by a ton of retards that just want to insult me all the time because I told them to piss off.
<2023-02-08T07:37:37.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Especially marine kacho soraya and those retards, they just want to argue with me. They jumped into threads like 10 times just today to start an argument.
<2023-02-08T07:39:41.000Z> chudbere: i mean, I get what you're saying but I can't identify with it because that's not who I am when I'm online.  I'm just me when I'm here, as genuine as I can be with people when I talk to them.  I understand that you have a persona you put on with people on fedi, smug, unflappable, tenacious, unwilling to back down--and I do admire that about you a lot of the time. But also it sometimes gets tiresome, the same way it got tiresome for me to see Mackivelli fighting with people all the time. 
<2023-02-08T07:39:55.000Z> chudbere: I unfollowed him as well before he flamed out and quit the instance, for the same reason
<2023-02-08T07:40:08.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Anyway, if we were actually friends, as I tried to make clear I thought we were, you guys would’ve reached out.
<2023-02-08T07:40:09.000Z> chudbere: just a lot of negativity on my TL
<2023-02-08T07:40:47.000Z> chudbere: I'm sorry people like marine and whoever the others are jump into threads to argue with you, why don't you just block them?
<2023-02-08T07:41:22.000Z> chudbere: I dont really know marine, I've only seen their name lately, but I'm sure they've been around for awhile and I just never crossed paths with them before
<2023-02-08T07:41:37.000Z> chudbere: I think I maybe argued with them a few days ago about something
<2023-02-08T07:42:00.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Ok, I’ll take that to mean we were actually just “friends”. I wouldn’t do that to someone I actually cared about. But so much of this is just fake bs so whatever.
<2023-02-08T07:42:37.000Z> chudbere: Have you previously known me to be fake or a liar?
<2023-02-08T07:43:21.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: You only really get to know people when relationships are strained.
<2023-02-08T07:45:43.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Nevertheless, I would never just ghost someone, esp someone I claimed to care about. That is such a coward move.
<2023-02-08T07:51:08.000Z> chudbere: I already agreed with you that I should have contacted you sooner, and I've apologized that I took what I thought was the easier and less hurtful action instead of confronting you. I'm sorry I ended up hurting you anyway, that wasn't my intention at all, nor was it Chris'. 
<2023-02-08T07:54:45.000Z> chudbere: I need to get back to bed, have to be up in 4 hours to get kids ready for school... I AM sorry for hurting you and if you don't believe my conversation here is sincere and is just fake bs, then I guess there's really nothing more to say except I wish you well. Goodnight, bot.
<2023-02-08T07:57:32.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Gn, and I don’t have to believe anything, your behaviour says it all. Best, and again, feel free to defed me so I can stop dealing with your users bs.
<2023-02-08T08:02:50.000Z> chudbere: I don't defed for stuff like this, and I learned my lesson about defederating people who request it back when I defederated mugicha.club at their request. If our users are bothering you then block our instance. Last thing I'll say: when you apologized to Chris and I for the shitty stuff you said, we took you at your word. I've apologized to you numerous times tonight, but I'm not going to grovel to get your forgiveness if you don't want to give me that same courtesy and take me for MY word. 
<2023-02-08T08:03:04.000Z> chudbere: Goodnight.
<2023-02-08T08:03:32.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: Well you haven’t made it seem like there’s a resolution 
<2023-02-08T08:04:35.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: It’s also very insulting that you’d compare me to that situation when I was literally the one that warned you about if. I’ve tried to be your friend from day one despite knowing nothing about you
<2023-02-08T08:09:45.000Z> bot@seal.cafe: You also haven’t apologised “multiple times”, I think that’s very clear despite me trying to make things right. 
