Didn't ANY of you take 12th grade or college introductory english classes and learn that literally everything has hidden meanings in it and you need to look at hte authors INTENT
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Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
Textiles, grain, maize, ores, oil, gas, and other trade goods, all subject to US military protection on trade routes if and only if it's traded in dollars... Kinda why our strong military isnecessary for a strong economy. :P
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01:59
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
@Rare_drop if you want my art, you're gonna have to submit yourself to the church of rockstar wolf pirates, and sign a contract with the admiral. This is official now
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02:03
Michichael
Grandfather clause
02:03
Or, because we're furfags, "Grandfurther claws"
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Daze 🇿🇦
Fail
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02:03
Michichael
I really should sleep.
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02:03
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
My biscuit brigade will take first shots with the Alcatraz 85th "Wingslapping" airborne
Not mentioned: Those were almost entirely ineligible voters of a "not in the country legally" status that can and have voted with the excuse "They didn't know it was illegal because they were registered". And that's just in fresno. That was /caught/.
02:06
3.5M voters being cleaned up from the roles because they arent' eligible per the JW lawsuit I think it was?
02:06
In CA alone?
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02:06
Daze 🇿🇦
*shitposting intensifies*
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02:07
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
I shouldn't be allowed to vote
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02:08
Michichael
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02:16
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
I can't seem find laws against this
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02:16
Michichael
Laws against what
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02:16
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
Using letters
02:17
So furry migration (FM) has a "championship" theme this year
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02:17
Michichael
Using someone's trademark or copyright, even if it's a derivitative work but could be construed to have the effect of diluting someone's brand, for personal profit?
02:18
Yeah it's not a criminal penalty but it's down to who has more lawyer good-will for the tort/civil claims
02:18
*shrugs, rolls around*
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Daze 🇿🇦
Anyone ever felt like they just got turned down by someone they've known for a long time and has been rather close to for years, and you don't know whether to confront that person and ask what their problem is to sort things out or just shut them out completely?
Yes. It's an extremely common occurence usually fueled by inexperience with interpersonal relationships and very often based off of mutual misinterpretation of verbal and nonverbal queues that could easily be resolved by sitting down and having a friendly conversation like two healthy adults.
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Michichael
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Daze 🇿🇦
I managed to find one of my good friends from overseas this morning, whom I haven't spoken to since around early 2016. Asked him how he was and if he remembered me. Received a message just recently from him telling me to bugger off.
02:21
I'm like...huh?
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02:22
Michichael
Whelp, in that case, shrug and move on. Wouldn't dwell on it.
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02:22
Daze 🇿🇦
Yeah but...we never fought or anything. That's what I'm curious about.
02:23
Either he thinks I'm someone else randomly messaging him, or he just doesn't give a shit anymore for some reason
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02:23
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
*shrug* There's tons of plausible explanations for the behavior. Maybe you're a reminder of a period in their life that they would rather not remember. Maybe you offended them. Maybe they think you're someone else. Maybe they just want a clean break from everyone they knew
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02:23
Daze 🇿🇦
Either way, my full name is clearly visible to everyone there lol
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02:24
Michichael
In any event, pestering someone after they've told ya to fuck off has more ways of making things worse than better.
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02:24
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
Your pills in the top of cane and a stash in the bottom
04:27
Some people are straight and narrow their whole life and when they get a death diagnosis or like just have a mid life crisis they do encyclopedia of drugs
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04:27
Lioness Abby
o.o thats a thing?
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04:27
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
Met an 84 year that had a bucket list
04:27
Helped him mark off quite a few things.
04:28
He liked the coke so much he had it with tea
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04:28
Lioness Abby
with my husband in the military its just not a thing i can do while i am on the government owned land and housing. and i never had a place i could go to try things.
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04:28
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
Very nice microdoser but he was a chemist when he was young.
Also the window is held up by a piece of wood i jammed inside the door
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23:15
Reason the LA Quail
I once opened my trunk and dropped in what I thought were my work keys but were the car keys and I shut the trunk
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Daze 🇿🇦
Clever birb
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23:16
Reason the LA Quail
Thank god by a miracle I cracked my windows and spent 10 minutes finding a branch to open them. The area I was in was 30 mi from town and no cell phone reception
If yer cumming green chunks, you might wanna get that looked at.
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Daze 🇿🇦
So I was taking someone's order today at work. And as I was talking to him, I just felt my nose run. After I was done with him, I realized it was bleeding.
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23:29
Reason the LA Quail
Yeah ew
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Daze 🇿🇦
Right now I'm wondering how that sorta thing happens out of the blue
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This immediately reminded me of Harudo
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11:47
Woofle A Thylacine
Wasn't it George Carlin who had a long monologue on that topic? :)
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11:48
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
Ok Michi can decide
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11:48
Woofle A Thylacine
How [fornicatingly] useful the word [fornicate] is. Like: [Fornicate!} it's 83 degrees already in San Jose today.
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11:48
Carci
Rocco: Fuckin'! What the fuckin'. Fuck. Who the fuck fucked this fucking... How did you two fucking fucks... Fuck! - Connor: Well, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word
Something other than thedailybeast might be better suited to illustrating this point. I don't have the spare time to go digging just *right* now though I'm afraid. <.<;
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11:51
Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
Mittelprächtig. Also, I heard VOA via shortwave last night from relay station in Selebi Phikwe on an experimental antenna last night. I'm not going to attempt that in German. :P
It's 250 kW according to short-wave.info, so it's about what Channel Africa used to use and in about the same location. Not that surprising at about 10:30pm local
12:00
The only African countries I've definitely heard are SA and Nigeria up to this point.
12:01
This morning shortwave was pretty much all China but there was Voice of Korea with a really good signal here
12:02
Since it's rapidly vanishing I thought I'd fire up the old rig and see what I can hear before they all go off the air for good
12:03
Shortwave is like 5 percent of what it was in the 1990's, and technology pretty much guarantees it will be gone for good soon
12:05
Except South Koreans beaming programs at North Korea to get past all their controls. That might go on until the year 2300 :P
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Daze 🇿🇦
Still wonder how NK manages to have regular broadcasts on a daily basis, since I'm sure not everyone there owns a TV
12:06
Its basically like a country-sized Escape Room lol
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12:08
Woofle A Thylacine
North Korea spends a huge amount of money jamming radio transmissions from the South so nobody can hear them, and then I guess for good measure shoots people with receivers
This is where a distinction between bias and accuracy is vital. A source can have bias (really, all sources do). You can take that into account. But accuracy — are the stated facts actually facts? There's a whole lot of sources like Breitbart where even the "facts" are just nonsense. I find this useful: http://www.mediabiasfactcheck.com
12:15
Daily Beast is rated fairly biased but Highly factual
12:16
Same with Huffpo. We all know their biases. But Breitbart, for example, is "Questionable source" that repeatedly fails fact checks
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Carci
Aye this extra info is all helpful. :p
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12:16
SparkCoon
Daily Beast does good work. they're one of my go-to non-MSM outlets.
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12:16
Woofle A Thylacine
So best to never read sources that fail fact checks
12:16
At least as a pattern
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Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
I mean their source for the "Resist Marxism" being "far-right" is the daily beast and think progress; which call it "But while the far-right may be losing influence, the so-called “alt-lite” isn’t. This loosely connected movement of groups and individuals doesn’t outwardly emphasize racism and bigotry in the same way the far-right does. Instead, they focus on the “dangers” posed to free speech, and how political correctness, feminism, and identity politics are destroying the West."
13:51
In short, "anything right of Chairman Mao is alt-right"
And the basis for "OMG RACIST" is "All americans need to unify as american nationalists to combat globalism/communism" and "people of all colors need to condemn the demonization/dehumanization of white folk". Because apparently it's impossible to be racist against white folk and any acts of racism towards white folk aren't racist, but calling it racist behavior is racist? Iunno.
13:54
Is there any links that actually show some skinheads being involved or is this more "anything right-wing is automatically a nazi" bs again?
13:54
The boston one has milo as a their figurehead XD Haven't heard of these other ones
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13:56
Carci
Milo as their figurehead yeah, but he's more just for show and not one of the people organizing the whole thing, from what I understand?
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13:56
Michichael
and this shirt is apparently racist:
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And the basis of him being a neo nazi
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Yeah, All I'm seeing here is more "anything i disagree wiht is a nazi" that dillutes and attempts to conflate conservative behavior and ideals with neo-nazism.
13:57
I mean if we want to play that game, anyone left of literally hitler is a communist stalin worshiper. /eyeroll
13:58
But I guess it's neo-nazi because neo-nazi's showed up? "Josh Camden, a member of the New Hampshire American Guard militia and tattooed neo-Nazi who sometimes goes by the name “Josh Cameron,” often attends Resist Marxism rallies, as the Boston DSA and the anarchist, antifascist, and anti-capitalist news site It’s Going Down have documented. American Guard has past and current connections to white supremacist groups and frequently embraces images of Daniel Day Lewis as Bill The Butcher, who leads a nativist gang that terrorizes immigrants in the 2002 movie Gangs of New York. "
13:59
I'm reminded of a southpark episode where jimbo and whats his face pretended to be in the KKK to drive a narrative because regardless of facts the presence of a racist group puts people off of a position; mocking the point that just because undesirable groups support an idea doesn't make it a bad idea.
13:59
Nor does endorsement by undesirable groups imply the endorsement is mutual.
14:00
Yeah, reading all of these it's circular sources that all come back to "right = racist"
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Daze 🇿🇦
What's with the random string of monologues?
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14:00
Michichael
I'm quoting the artlces where they "source" their information
14:00
about why something is racist
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Daze 🇿🇦
....k
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Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
*cough COUGH*
14:01
Can I add a west Covina person?
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14:01
Michichael
Just commenting on the earlier articles about the straight pride stuff
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14:01
Daze 🇿🇦
Oh. Straight pride most definitely needs to be a thing
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14:01
Michichael
Which one of them actually accurately recognized: "It's right wingers trolling people"
14:01
No shit. :P
14:02
It's pointing out hypocrisy.
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Trader Lenny, the forgetful scholar. Leader of the biscuit Brigade in service of the Church of Dadbod
I'm not against it as a concept, I think they're tpically unnecessarily provacative and shoving pictures of dildos or naked adults in sexual positions in front of kids is not helping the LGBT movement or reputation
I think more appropriate gay pride events would be, say, organized volunteer events of gay people showing they're normal members of the community - soup kitchens, can drives, races, fundraising, etc.
Well some people are retarded and don't see a distinction of "i think we can do things a different, better way" and "i hate this and everything about this and nobody should be allowed to do it"
14:07
Mostly because those retards think everything they dislike shouldn't be allowed to exist.
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14:08
Reason the LA Quail
The problem is the repression in the first place. The gay movement was started on sexual unacceptance and a lot of people try to make up for years of repression
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14:08
Michichael
These are also the types of retards that lose their shit and devolve into nonfunctional dipshits whenever they're exposed to words or ideas that they disagree with. :P
Yes yes, I read your sources and find the links to neonazism to be lacking.
14:09
It's more "OMG ANYTHING RIGHT IS NAZI" panicked pearl clutching.
14:09
Will I personally be involved in any of that stuff? No. Do I think it should be banned? Nah.
14:09
Let 'em have their fun.
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14:09
SparkCoon
i gotta say, i find your continued attempts to white knight the alt-right to be quite puzzling.
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14:10
Reason the LA Quail
I feel like the true issue is the pride of being an oppressed people no longer as society accepts gays vs people who feel like their superiority is being widdled away
That's because you seem to think that anything and everyhting right of chairman mao is alt-right and you see no difference between someone that thinks we shouldn't have open borders and should enforce immigration policies and someone that firebombs mosques.
Michi gets pissed because the fandom is full of ultra liberals who don’t believe in equality but eye for an eye.
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14:11
SparkCoon
but regardless of the fact that organizers of these so-called "Straight Pride Parades" have strong ties to neo-nazi and alt-right organizations, a parade itself at its base is pretty gay.
white knighting the alt right or defending anyone that is center/right of center?
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14:11
Michichael
You have literally zero nuance or recognition that maybe there's gradients of behavior and you can embrace some ideals that have mutual acceptance by unacceptable groups without the idea itself being unacceptable.
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14:11
Reason the LA Quail
And he trolls these liberals on the internet
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14:11
SparkCoon
so even the straightest of the straight pride parades is very gay.
You recognize that yet you think it's put on by neonazis that hate gays. The thought that maybe your assumptions are wrong and that anything even remotely conservative or nationalistic is not necessarily an evil neo-nazi racist concept doesn't even cross your mind.
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14:13
SparkCoon
look Michi, when organizers of these so-called straight pride parades have strong ties to alt-right organizations, what does that tell you?
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14:13
Michichael
The simple truth is that there are valid points from boths ides and agreeing with some concepts or people doesn't automatically endorse all of the ideas of those people.
I wouldn't be suprised if there was a fanfic of this existing
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14:13
Reason the LA Quail
I’d like to point out that gay pride parades are generally based on inclusion and acceptance. I haven’t seen any straight people turned away. Straight parades are based on an anti- group
I looked at hte articles. Those "ties to alt-right organizations" are questionable at best, as is the definition of "Alt-right organization"
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14:14
Reason the LA Quail
I find gay pride parades to be more of a celebration of all types of sexuality.
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14:14
Michichael
With very clear langauge tying anything "alt right" as "neo-nazi" and anything "right of center" as "alt-right"
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SparkCoon
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14:15
Michichael
You're basically saying that if A=B and B=C, then A=C, but you're never proving A=B OR B=C. You're just saying "accept this as true because it's in the news" The articles linked say they're alt right because another article says it's alt right... and that article says it's alt right because the first article called it alt right
14:15
or like I noted earlier "it's racist because he liked a shirt"
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14:15
Carci
Personally I'd probably qualify the Proud Boys as "alt-right"...
Well, you tell me when they're going door to door dragging gays off to straight camp and I'll start being concerned. Otherwise, let trolls be trolls. They're after attention.
Ah, yes, thought crime should be illegal. Don't wait for someone to do something bad, their ideas are evil because you say so and therefor they should be deplatformed, isolated, and otherwise prevented from ever having their own ideas.
14:18
Forgot that was a hallmark of the alt-left communist ideas. WRongthink = nazi
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14:18
SparkCoon
umm their ideas are evil because they include genocide and extermination.
Again, you're making a claim that someone's a white supremacist simply by calling htem a white supremacist. You're implying neo-nazi behavior or motivations for EVERY action a person does because of rather thin evidence of them being involved in groups with such goals
14:21
You haven't established any actions or declared intent of genocide or removal of non-whites. The evidence in the articles you provided cited things like "all americans need to take pride in american nationalism to fight globalism/communism" and "we call on people of all colors to decry the dehumanization of white people" as evidence of wanting to kill all nonwhites?
14:21
C'mon.
14:21
That's some pretty thin ground. Do I think there's a demhumanization of whites going on? Eh. Not really. I can see where their position is coming from and I don't think it's racist to say you should stop treating people different based on the color of their skin - brown, black, purple, OR white.
14:22
And nationalism keeps being attempted to be tied to neo-nazism as if there's any link at all.
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14:22
SparkCoon
white nationalism = white supremacy
14:22
it's the same thing. one is just more media friendly than the other.
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14:22
Michichael
Now you could make an argument that they're supporting nationalist agendas because of a basis in their own racist ideoplogy, but that doesn't make anyone supporting nationalism racist.
Expanding on this, you're trying to say, again, and it's a clever bit of brainwashing and propaganda, that ANYONE with a nationalist intent is a white nationalist and since all white nationalists are white supremacists anyone with a nationalist intent is a racist white supremecist.
And this would be a more devestating point if those people he called out hadnt' themselves told others to go back to tehir own countries or get deported.
14:28
And he absolutely has told folks that if they don't like it here, they can get out, or go to canada.
14:28
But I'll accept the statement could be considered racist.
14:29
And the crowd cheering on that "send her back" absolutely was racist.
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14:29
Carci
And he was pretty damn approving of it in the moment. :x
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14:29
Michichael
Mhm.
14:30
Certainly should have put a stop to it.
14:30
and this is why support for trump isn't absolute. He does plenty of stupid shit.
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14:30
Reason the LA Quail
However, he almost exclusively targets targets that are darker or have a religion he doesn’t agree with. That’s the issue. In isolation, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but when you use it for targeted policies, that’s the danger
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14:30
Carci
And instead, he let it simmer down on its own, and then immediately continued his tirade against her and AOC.
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14:30
Michichael
But trying to make the claim that everything someone does is based off of racist intent is just dumb.
And it's also the reason we can't have healthy conversations. Because the moment you assume that just because someone wants strong borders, it's becauase they're racist, you basically have ended the conversation due to a misguided sense of your own superiorirty. You aren't willing to entertain their ideas, you aren't willing to look at alternative explanations, etc.
14:31
And no, REason, he targets anyone here illegally.
14:32
Or anyone that disagrees with him he attacks in a variety of ways.
One of the issues is that when he attacks, he uses personal attacks. Those have no merit on the quality of the job a person does. It is an effective tactic to discredit someone undeservingly tho
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14:35
Michichael
Or even immigrant or not
14:35
he's told people to go to canada if they don't like it here.
14:36
Hell he told PELOSI to go to another country if she hates it here so much, it wasn't racist when he told her to go to Mexico or wherever it was. (don't remember the exact thing but it was a media fervor last year)
clever idea; however if either are shrunk, the text would be difficult or impossible to read.
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14:37
Meikurey Cyanocitta (They/Them)
Could sharpen it
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14:38
Michichael
But if all you're doing is complaining without every offering a viable solution, or shooting down every solution because it came from someone you dislike, then you're not doing it out of a position of love for your country. You're doing it out of a "i dislike that other person"
I believe the problem is the definition of viable.
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14:38
Michichael
And like it was pointed out the other day, Ilhan probably ran for congress to be a part of the solution of the system.
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14:39
Reason the LA Quail
They are pointing out ways to change. You and a segment of society don’t agree with it. Totally fine. No need for personal attacks
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14:39
Michichael
I don't agree with Trump tellin' em to go back to their own country. The statement could easily be seen as racist. Do I personally think it was intended to be based off of racism? Nah. I think he's just doing yet another personal attack. Do I support that? Not really, no.
14:39
Do I think every single thing Trump does is literally hitler and #REEEEEEsist? Nah. They're retards.
14:40
It's almost as if politics is an extremely complicated dance of ideals and policies. :3
So all around his reasons for making those comments are poorly chosen. This is the president. Someone who represents us on a national level. Someone who REGULARLY says dumb ass shit like that is a moron. That’s not how to be a dignified part of our society