People are starting to complain that the reg lines at MFF are running between 3 and 6 hours.
13:12
I don't know why they can't just do reg like they do at Elliots Spring Gathering.
13:12
At Elliots Spring Gathering you step off an elevator, there's a small desk there where they check your ID and hand you your badge, and you go enjoy the events.
13:12
If you didn't register, you go home. You're required to register before the event.
Yes, they did. More staff, better trained staff, actual project managers configuring the layout of the registration tables.
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13:38
Macchiato LeMeow
The time has finally come
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13:38
Majik ɹɐǝq
Part of the problem is it's hard to find volunteers who are all of:
a) People friendly for long hours b) Competent c) Capable of completing a shift without abandoning their post d) Willing to work extra hours if someone else doesn't show
13:38
You can find people with one or more of those traits but seldom all of them
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13:39
Michichael
I'm e: b,c, and d only
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13:39
Carci
I should volunteer for BLFC next year I think. Pretty sure I'm down with a/b/c
Mɹ
13:39
Majik ɹɐǝq
I volunteered for cons a lot in my 20s and while I'm sure many things have changed a lot of them probably haven't
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13:40
Carci
I think I'd skip out on D though. Someone else doesn't show, and it's not my *job* job? Unless I'm bored I'll probably be skipping out when I said I was going to go. >.>
Mɹ
13:40
Majik ɹɐǝq
There are a lot of volunteers who will put in the minimum required amount of work to get a free registration credit
13:40
Then when it's the end of their shift they'll just vanish, leaving the station vacant
13:41
Not the majority in my experience but it happens often enough to be a problem
13:51
I just saw a rat bolt down the hallway.
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13:58
StarForce/Kaiser🐯🐲
Last time I saw a rat was at Embarcadero Station on the Muni Metro level
BW
14:15
Brownie Wotter
Rats are cute ._.
Mɹ
14:18
Majik ɹɐǝq
I'm going to visit one tomorrow
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14:20
Michichael
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I think I'm still in love with a guy after 2.5 years. I thought about him today, his features that no one can replicate. Well this is a problem for therapy anyways...
15:12
And my therapist is good so if she can't do anything about it I feel safety in knowing I can give up.
I think I'm going to go to this meetup, not sure who goes but cool to have a new brunch meetup
BW
16:04
Brownie Wotter
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SF Bay Area Furry Events 25.11.2018 09:30:09
~Morning Mimosa~ Sunday Brunch 11:00 AM to 12:30 PM Meetup Event Link (3 going)
Hosted By: Jamie Sharp
Let's enjoy some Morning Mimosas! Casual brunch at Mo'z Cafe - there's a huge menu, fresh-squeezed OJ for their mimosas, and it's got a great view of Geary across town. Kigu friendly!
However, if a Milk Tea place sells a drink that involves a slush or smoothie, I get that as top priority
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19:53
Maksim
What about add honey?
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19:55
StarForce/Kaiser🐯🐲
Somehere near me sells Honey Milk tea
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19:57
Tamino
I figured since you get goat milk from milking a goat, you could get honey milk from milking a honey. Then someone explained to me it doesn't work that way.
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20:02
Michichael
*grumbles and proceeds to down several glasses of vodka*
I mean the problem is that I'm not anxious when I'm smoking or when I'm high but after I stopped and I have to go to work and I'm not high anymore then I get anxious all freaking day
You can't get an ID with a changed address anymore they just give you a little brown paper card that you have to carry around until the next time you renew your license
10:34
Deleted Account
i can but didnt learn jello fucking biafra was gonna be at frolic until this week and thought i didnt have enough time to get state ID
10:35
oh well, im okay with looking like an ass and probably being banned if i get caught
I'm not going to push super hard for one because my my room is a mess. But if there's enough interest to meet up for food or games or anything else I'd go
if there's no "no parking signs" or anything, its possible you can get it waived. Still gonna have to pay the impound fees and stuff
14:36
which is shitty
14:36
Sorry to hear you're goin' through that brownie.
BW
14:36
Brownie Wotter
The reason cited was blocking a driveway. Which total BS but lack of parking signs won't help
14:37
It was also only towed a few days ago so I lucked out there. Owners probably got tired of not being able to swing out into the street the whole way they wanted...
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14:38
Michichael
Well take a photo of the area and if it's not CLEARLY a driveway..
Mɹ
14:38
Majik ɹɐǝq
Yeah, people in SF will call parking enforcement on you if you are *near* their driveway.
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This is the cursed spot. Never parking there again
14:42
There's a reason why it was available ..
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14:59
Michichael
Oh. Uh... yeah. Dude. You need at least 6" on either side of your vehicle
14:59
It's not a spot for anything but a motorcycle. =\
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Reason the LA Quail
6 inches
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Puppers
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15:21
Brownie Wotter
That's a dumb rule
15:22
Most of the sunset is impossible to park in by that logic
15:23
I might as well buy a parking pass for my apartment garage because if that's the law it would definitely happen again
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17:14
Michichael
Brownie: Specifically, the law is that the driveway begins at the curb cut, where the curb begins to slope down to the street level
17:14
The curb cut is typically a 6" slope
17:15
If they wanna get SUPER pendantic about it, the law is 3' away from any ramp that provides handicapped access to the sidewalk; and some places can take that to mean driveways.
17:20
> Also, in San Francisco, a home owner usually wouldn't call 911 but instead 311 if their drive way is blocked. The homeowner needs to be present when the meter maid shows up to demonstrate that the driveway is in fact blocked ... and if it is, the meter maid will issue a ticket and call a tow truck.
17:20
So yeah, they'll have to show evidence that you were infringing ont he curb cut
17:22
That said, it's like a 50 dollar ticket, + whatever tow and impound costs likely were.
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18:32
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I would say I hate it... but I don't know any other life
19:51
It just kinda is me now
D?
19:52
Daze 🇿🇦
I would say start a depression meetup but idk how that would turn out
BW
19:52
Brownie Wotter
I went to DBSA Palo Alto back in the day. It was nice
19:53
It was very structured. Introductions, then break into small groups and have a vent/feedback session, then anonymous questions that the whole group answers
19:54
And there was a very structured approach to the feedback, they always said steer away from advice giving and focus more on connecting from your own experiences
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19:54
StarForce/Kaiser🐯🐲
I keep my depression locked away as much as possible
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21:08
Tamino
i was just at trader joes and some terrible rock-n-roll version of The First Noel was playing... and i was tearing up, not because of whatever godawful electric guitar arrangement i was actually hearing, but because i know how it feels to be in a big group of people with everyone singing their hearts out, in four part harmony. THAT is what christmas means to me.
21:09
i was able to convince the furs i was visiting in texas to sing a few carols with me. i want more of that.
i was confused too though. i figured either michi observed something "in the wild" returning a 418 response, or he was waxing philosophical on how the "IoT" craze lately has made things that really ought to have stayed in the realm of jokes, cross unsettlingly over into the realm of reality.
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01:06
Michichael
Mm? No, just saw an Alexa commercial and bunny and i were noting how iot used to be a joke
01:06
But yeah
01:06
Tamino has it
T
01:08
Tamino
we should have an internet of thongs instead.
01:08
oh wait. i think we kind of already do. scratch that.
A Request for Comments (RFC) is a formal document from the Internet Engineering Task Force ( IETF ) that is the result of committee drafting and subsequent review by interested parties.
01:32
Essentially, it's how the internet agrees on how something should be presented and programmed to behave
T
01:32
Tamino
they're specifications, really. they were originally Requests For Comment, but these days when an RFC is published, that's it, that's the spec, no commenting.
M
01:32
Michichael
E.g. web browsing is covered by an RFC - all web browsers must comply with it to function on the internet as expected.
a very long time ago, i was aided by weed in my appreciation of some of the plot sequences in final fantasy 8. like when everyone is talking at once, and different characters are feeling different things, and what they're feeling inside is different from the brave face they're putting on for the outside world.
12:06
i thought it was incredibly beautiful, like so many strands of human emotion that were woven together.
Yeah I never paid attention to the tier lists. I never even saw one for FighterZ. I just picked the characters that I found were the most fun to piss my friends off with (and my friends HATE it when I chose Broly)
I also love how my friend knows nothing about the Dragon Ball franchise so he just gives all the characters his own names (and usually he is stoned when he comes up with the names so he comes up with stupid stuff)
F?
12:36
FoxTrash 🍞👌
I know too much about dbz lol...
12:36
I'm obsessed
12:37
It's fun af though
ML
12:37
Macchiato LeMeow
Same lol. I am just disappointed that I am far behind on Super
12:37
But yeah I have some really nice replicas of the 7 Dragon Balls in my room XD
F?
12:38
FoxTrash 🍞👌
My friend point blank deflected my level 3 last night and we had to stop the match because we were laughing too hard
ML
12:38
Macchiato LeMeow
:O Nic
12:38
Nice
F?
12:38
FoxTrash 🍞👌
He wasn't even trying to do that lol
12:38
200 iq krillin
ML
12:39
Macchiato LeMeow
Lol
12:46
Man I miss FighterZ and Xenoverse 2
12:46
I kind of had fun grinding for Dragon Balls
F?
12:52
FoxTrash 🍞👌
I never played xenoverse 2
12:52
I'm not much into the 3d arena type games simply because they don't feel complicated enough
12:53
For me learning crazy execution heavy combos is part of the fun
This too. I don't handle toxic teammates as well as everyone else can. I tend to not do very well under pressure and I hate disappointing others
Mɹ
14:00
Majik ɹɐǝq
..
. . 02.12.2018 09:49:43
So many folks didn't show at panels and events, most of them were late arriving because they're all set so fucking far apart it's a 15-30 minute travel between and not 1 minute between is scheduled. The reg lines was 6+/6+ hours thurs, fri was 4.5/3 hours and Sat i'm told was ~1hr
14:00
Furry Shenanigans so far:
14:00
Condom on the stairwell pylon, fox trap style
14:00
2 people had their drinks spiked and were rushed to ER
14:00
1 person got into near-fisticuffs with a prereg volunteer who quit right after
14:00
Volunteers bragging they signed up and did under 2 hours of work during the con
14:00
6 different volunteers quitting and leaving the con in digust
ML
14:00
Macchiato LeMeow
Furcons sound scary...
Mɹ
14:01
Majik ɹɐǝq
D
Demon Princess Noodle 02.12.2018 12:52:41
With what??
14:01
QT
Quiet Tucson 02.12.2018 12:54:34
They didn't say. One person passed out at the con, the other was at the hotel, though I don't know if they passed out or not
14:01
D
Demon Princess Noodle 02.12.2018 13:03:49
My room mate drank the wrong drink, or was drugged with molly
Mɹ
14:01
Majik ɹɐǝq
So MFF is going pretty great
14:01
Deleted Account
Nice
ML
14:06
Macchiato LeMeow
So.....then why did so many people get mad when I asked if there were other things to do at cons besides sex and drugs?
I can't recall but it feels like I heard it before
T
14:26
That_One_Wofie
Yes of course
14:26
You did
BW
14:53
Brownie Wotter
Muir Woods/Sausalito trip next Saturday. Plans include taking a walk through the woods, enjoying the famous grilled cheese at the Muir Woods trading post, and checking out the gingerbread houses in Sausalito via the self guided tour at https://www.sausalito.org/gingerbread-house-tour
I can drive up to 4 furs from SF (or Daly City), and hopefully we'll have another car too if more transportation is needed. RSVP by PM-ing me. I would like to know by the middle of the week so I can reserve enough parking spots for Muir Woods, but if we can't make that happen can always tour Marin headlands instead.
For every bad story you hear about furry cons there are dozens/hundreds more of furries having the time of their life. The naughty stories are just more fun to pass around.
I used to get given a lot of grief because when I was in SoCal, people would only talk about the bad things that happened in Cons but would ask me to go to Cons anyway without telling me about any of the GOOD stuff, but whenever I got asked about the GOOD stuff I would get called a bully
Well at first I just told them I am a bit concerned because of all the drama I hear about but then they would promise that there was more to do there than just sex and drugs. I remember the first person I just asked her "Oh? What other kinds of things do you guys do there?"
F?
17:16
FoxTrash 🍞👌
People like to focus on the negatives because it's easy
How about just asking "what is there to do" without flavoring the conversation with sex. and drugs.
ML
17:18
Macchiato LeMeow
I've been too scared to go because I almost never hear about the good stuff at cons. It was only a few years ago when I finally found out about the merchant's den and the video game meetups.
D?
17:18
Daze 🇿🇦
People tend to have different views on what they find good, so that makes more sense
I didn't flavor the conversations to be about drugs or sex, they were the ones who brought up the sex and drugs in the first place and then asked me to go right after and that was when I was kind of like "Uh.... I don't know, I am not really into that kind of stuff..."
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17:19
Puppers
For the local con Further Confusion there are panels, late night games, parties, and events. There is also a gaming room.
D?
17:19
Daze 🇿🇦
A lot of folks would say they had a good time solely because there was copious amounts of sex and drugs involved
I used to hear so much about the sex and drugs that I didn't know if it was forced on you or not
F?
17:24
FoxTrash 🍞👌
No one can force you to do anything you don't want you know
ML
17:24
Macchiato LeMeow
Like the way my old roomate made Califur sound it sounded as if you couldn't do anywhere without minors getting drunk or people hooking up and being lewd
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17:25
Puppers
Califur was special and a story on its own.
F?
17:25
FoxTrash 🍞👌
Never been so I can't say
17:25
Only been to FC and FWA
ML
17:25
Macchiato LeMeow
Idk everything I heard about Califur was bad but people seem to have some good things to say about Further Confusion
F?
17:25
FoxTrash 🍞👌
Going to blfc this year
D?
17:26
Daze 🇿🇦
Going to DazeCon next year
BW
17:26
Brownie Wotter
If sex or drugs are ever forced on you there's something seriously wrong and someone deserves to be called out
P
17:26
Puppers
Further Confusion has been going on for years. They have good people running it.
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17:27
Brownie Wotter
Or maybe have the police called depending on severity
I am a lot more comfortable going to FC than Califur
BW
17:27
Brownie Wotter
I hope at least to be a voice for others in the community who don't drink or do drugs, and say "hey I enjoyed this while not doing any substances and you can too" if I do end up enjoying FC
17:28
As for the sex part, uhhh I'm part otter so no promises
T
17:28
Tamino
even if you personally don't get forced into anything, there can still be a feeling or a vibe around a con. like if you get into an elevator and the people around you are sounding like frat boys. or if you open up your room and the people who end up coming into it are intoxicated.
That is what I will probably do. I really want to play my board games that never got used.
BW
17:29
Brownie Wotter
Fox, Fox are typing...
F?
17:29
FoxTrash 🍞👌
I do normal stuff in the day and party at night
17:29
DOUBLE FOX
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17:29
Macchiato LeMeow
OwO Foxes
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17:30
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17:30
FoxTrash 🍞👌
I'm actually trash, masquerading as a fox
17:30
Shhhh
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17:30
Puppers
Oh man the party scene is great.
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17:30
Daze 🇿🇦
The amount of furries there are around the world with Fox names is just nauseating
T
17:30
Tamino
i don't want there to even *be* a party floor. to me the fact that there is one, says a lot about how the convention is expecting people to think of it.
Tamino: I disagree there. Party floor is accepting certain realities as to how any social convention happens, and taking steps to minimize impact. You put in a party floor, you can do things like the covered flooring to keep big cleaning bills, and also do things like work with the hotel to get all the noisiness in one place where you can deal with it easily
Thanks! I got a sick Clockwork Orange themed badge done too.
BW
17:34
Brownie Wotter
Sometimes it's just a reality that there are going to be parties at things, and if you don't go to any conventions with parties then you're not going to go to any conventions
F?
17:35
FoxTrash 🍞👌
I don't even like wierd hybrids because I'm a fuddy
