<2021-03-25T00:06:04.000Z> seseri: btw if you're wondering who this is, ya girl decided to make an alt :^)
<2021-03-25T00:06:21.000Z> tengumatingpress: cryptolibertarian catgirl?
<2021-03-25T00:06:25.000Z> seseri: Some things I'd rather not have splay all over blob.cat
<2021-03-25T00:06:26.000Z> seseri: Yea
<2021-03-25T00:06:50.000Z> tengumatingpress: surprised you'd make an account here tbh, it's not very friendly to trannies
<2021-03-25T00:06:58.000Z> tengumatingpress: though you seem like you can handle the banter
<2021-03-25T00:07:05.000Z> seseri: Figure if I fat finger some like auschwitz shower joke or whatever I don't end up in hot water
<2021-03-25T00:07:34.000Z> seseri: Yeah like, I'm really used to it honestly
<2021-03-25T00:07:42.000Z> tengumatingpress: I can take or leave everything else, I just want a place where I can use that one bkub edit of Tewi saying "what a fag"
<2021-03-25T00:08:00.000Z> seseri: If I'm gonna let you in on a secret, I actually feel more comf around right-wingers than most of my supposed compatriots in the "trans community"
<2021-03-25T00:08:13.000Z> seseri: So much speech and thought policing to spurious ends
<2021-03-25T00:08:26.000Z> tengumatingpress: I don't think it's a good direction to take in life, but if you're not being annoying about it I can't bring myself to care
<2021-03-25T00:08:51.000Z> tengumatingpress: yeah, the real reason I avoid leftwing spaces is you can't even post memes about traps without people getting mad
<2021-03-25T00:09:02.000Z> tengumatingpress: even when I actually agree with them on many issues
<2021-03-25T00:09:20.000Z> seseri: The whole trap thing is way overblown tbh
<2021-03-25T00:09:36.000Z> seseri: Like slur??  Literally gets people murdered?? Give me a fucking break
<2021-03-25T00:10:12.000Z> tengumatingpress: I'll understand the complain when a Bridget cosplayer gets capped during a con orgy or something
<2021-03-25T00:10:21.000Z> seseri: I actually self-id'd as a trap when I was younger and even now I'll put 男の娘 in my bio as a sort of dogwhistle to folks so that they know I can actually take the heat
<2021-03-25T00:10:25.000Z> seseri: LOL
<2021-03-25T00:10:55.000Z> seseri: I've only been to like one anime con and I could *feel* the degeneracy there.  Probably a miracle I kept my virginity considering
<2021-03-25T00:11:26.000Z> tengumatingpress: I've never been to an anime con because there seems to be little of interest, especially in recent years
<2021-03-25T00:11:47.000Z> tengumatingpress: don't really give a shit about the state of the industry when most anime/manga I enjoy is translated by fans
<2021-03-25T00:11:53.000Z> seseri: Yeah honestly, the only reason I went was because of the assortment of rhythm game machines you couldn't really find anywhere else
<2021-03-25T00:12:15.000Z> seseri: Like jubeat (although one of the local arcades later got it)
<2021-03-25T00:12:38.000Z> tengumatingpress: not into rhythm games, but the arcade I hung around pre rona was like half Japanese rhythm games
<2021-03-25T00:12:52.000Z> seseri: Round 1 I take it?
<2021-03-25T00:13:10.000Z> tengumatingpress: nah, I'm not in that state
<2021-03-25T00:13:29.000Z> seseri: Must be a fairly out of the way state if there's no R1 lol
<2021-03-25T00:13:48.000Z> tengumatingpress: it's a pretty small establishment that's full of rhythm games, a large amount of computers, and a small ghetto for fighting game players to bring a console
<2021-03-25T00:13:56.000Z> seseri: Sounds comfy
<2021-03-25T00:14:15.000Z> tengumatingpress: it was, at least on days where the Smash guys weren't playing
<2021-03-25T00:14:31.000Z> tengumatingpress: the memes about the odor are true and I was even hanging around anime fighting game people 
<2021-03-25T00:14:46.000Z> seseri: Bad scene
<2021-03-25T00:15:15.000Z> seseri: Although tbf I'm in a scene that's about as degenerate when you dig deeper into it
<2021-03-25T00:15:30.000Z> seseri: Literal dogfuckers and stuff highlighting GDQ without a care in the world
<2021-03-25T00:15:52.000Z> tengumatingpress: I remember reading about this one korean rhythm game guy who kept posting about how much he wanted to fuck elementary schoolers in his discord unprovoked
<2021-03-25T00:16:03.000Z> seseri: OOF
<2021-03-25T00:16:06.000Z> tengumatingpress: you're part of the speedrunning scene?
<2021-03-25T00:16:19.000Z> seseri: Nope, shooting games
<2021-03-25T00:16:30.000Z> tengumatingpress: ah, I see
<2021-03-25T00:16:35.000Z> seseri: Basically think all the degeneracy of the speedrunning scene and turn it up to 11
<2021-03-25T00:16:43.000Z> tengumatingpress: not really into the genres on the whole, but I do see the appeal
<2021-03-25T00:17:00.000Z> tengumatingpress: I can't evenimagine how bad it is
<2021-03-25T00:17:07.000Z> seseri: I got into it rather early and it ended up being the genre for me
<2021-03-25T00:17:14.000Z> seseri: So I couldn't extricate myself even if I wanted to
<2021-03-25T00:17:23.000Z> tengumatingpress: rip
<2021-03-25T00:17:28.000Z> seseri: Although thankfully I'm permabanned from most of their community discords for being ubersatan :^)
<2021-03-25T00:17:48.000Z> seseri: (basically helping to expose said dogfucker)
<2021-03-25T00:17:54.000Z> tengumatingpress: I mostly dropped vidya outside of fighters and a few sims, mostly stick to tabletop rpgs and wargaming
<2021-03-25T00:18:05.000Z> tengumatingpress: I see you angered the zoophile internet defense force
<2021-03-25T00:18:23.000Z> seseri: incel internet defense force
<2021-03-25T00:18:42.000Z> tengumatingpress: are you really incel if you're fucking dogs though?
<2021-03-25T00:19:04.000Z> seseri: "there are three main copes if you're an incel---  gay cope, tranny cope, and dog cope"
<2021-03-25T00:19:09.000Z> seseri: (paraphrasing from memory here)
<2021-03-25T00:19:58.000Z> tengumatingpress: I consider myself fortunate to be too autistic to really be interested in relationships, not sure if the scene is as bad as they say or if they're just mentally ill
<2021-03-25T00:20:54.000Z> seseri: I'm just glad things are relatively tranquil and sane now
<2021-03-25T00:21:07.000Z> seseri: Even in a relationship that (probably) isn't going to go up in flames
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<2021-03-25T00:21:22.000Z> tengumatingpress: what the fuck
<2021-03-25T00:21:36.000Z> seseri: Nice glitch XD
<2021-03-25T00:21:37.000Z> tengumatingpress: congratulations on the relationship anyway
<2021-03-25T00:21:42.000Z> seseri: thx~ ^^
<2021-03-25T00:22:44.000Z> seseri: If there's anything I've learned from the past couple of years relationship-wise: in the case of transwomen, the more hot the girl, the more batshit insane they are
<2021-03-25T00:22:48.000Z> seseri: On like an exponential scale
<2021-03-25T00:23:25.000Z> tengumatingpress: yeah, a lot of you seem pretty crazy beyond the obvious thing
<2021-03-25T00:23:58.000Z> tengumatingpress: I remember reading about gender identity disorder being linked to some personality disorders, but who knows how reliable the study was
<2021-03-25T00:24:08.000Z> seseri: I think on the low end it's like depression and dysphoria and the usual things that come with that, on the high end....  well, "yandere" wouldn't be far off as a term of art
<2021-03-25T00:24:19.000Z> seseri: Well let me put it this way
<2021-03-25T00:24:37.000Z> seseri: Cluster B personality disorders occur at roughly the same rate in transwomen that they do in ciswomen
<2021-03-25T00:24:48.000Z> seseri: Which is to say: quite a lot more than men
<2021-03-25T00:25:22.000Z> seseri: And it makes sense when you view it as a kind of neruological hyperfemininity
<2021-03-25T00:25:41.000Z> seseri: *neurological
<2021-03-25T00:26:23.000Z> tengumatingpress: there's some very odd shit going on there I'd like see studied more
<2021-03-25T00:27:04.000Z> tengumatingpress: I think it was astroturfed because it suddenly became a prominent thing, but there is a cognitive profile associated with it
<2021-03-25T00:28:07.000Z> seseri: I definitely don't think it was astroturfed per se, but I'll definitely concede that there's been a prolific rise in the amount of people actually going through with it compared to decades back, particularly among the stereotypical transbian programmer socks types
<2021-03-25T00:29:09.000Z> tengumatingpress: I'm sure you understand why it at least appears that way to people outside the scene
<2021-03-25T00:29:23.000Z> seseri: Yeah, for sure
<2021-03-25T00:29:45.000Z> tengumatingpress: I know a few guys who said they were pressured into going on HRT and I think I had some identity problems when I was a teenager I grew out of
<2021-03-25T00:30:14.000Z> seseri: >pressured
<2021-03-25T00:30:26.000Z> seseri: I hope to God they didn't find themselves in, like, Discord pinkpilling groups
<2021-03-25T00:31:01.000Z> seseri: Because those places (the worse of them anyway) *will* actually blackmail you into taking HRT and self-harming in order to appease their egos and sadistic desires
<2021-03-25T00:32:04.000Z> tengumatingpress: a few guys, yes
<2021-03-25T00:32:25.000Z> tengumatingpress: horribly fucked up people, thankfully Discord wasn't a thing until I was an adult lol
<2021-03-25T00:32:40.000Z> seseri: Mid-teens here
<2021-03-25T00:32:45.000Z> seseri: My egg cracked on IRC
<2021-03-25T00:33:05.000Z> tengumatingpress: ah
<2021-03-25T00:33:12.000Z> seseri: After about a year of repression beforehand
<2021-03-25T00:33:47.000Z> tengumatingpress: the most I ever experienced was thinking it would be nice to look like a girl and I did shave my arms and legs a few times
<2021-03-25T00:34:07.000Z> tengumatingpress: still think I have a few autogynephilic fantasies, but other than that I don't really think about it tbh
<2021-03-25T00:34:11.000Z> seseri: For me, it was never like that really.
<2021-03-25T00:34:24.000Z> seseri: It was much more a mental unease and dissociation than anything else
<2021-03-25T00:34:35.000Z> tengumatingpress: yeah, that sounds rough
<2021-03-25T00:34:38.000Z> seseri: Very typically presenting dysphoria give or take a few things
<2021-03-25T00:34:49.000Z> seseri: HRT helped fix most of it but it still comes up every now and again
<2021-03-25T00:35:25.000Z> seseri: And like, let me be perfectly clear about one thing right out of the gate
<2021-03-25T00:35:46.000Z> seseri: HRT is not anywhere *near* the one-sided affair people like to portray it as
<2021-03-25T00:36:30.000Z> tengumatingpress: I don't really know much about it beyond the memes tbh
<2021-03-25T00:36:33.000Z> seseri: There are a decent amount of problems that come with it (which the clinics will let you know about), and if you don't already have dysphoria it'll quickly act as a reality check for you by inducing dysphoria
<2021-03-25T00:36:49.000Z> tengumatingpress: damn
<2021-03-25T00:37:04.000Z> seseri: But at the same time, there are a lot of good things that come with it and ultimately I don't feel any regrets despite the problems
<2021-03-25T00:37:18.000Z> tengumatingpress: curious about your take on pimozide, I recall there being some studies suggesting it helped with gender dysphoria, but again you need multiple studies to come to a conclusion about it
<2021-03-25T00:37:39.000Z> seseri: IIRC the confounding factor in those studies was that the dysphoria was induced by psychosis
<2021-03-25T00:38:01.000Z> seseri: In those cases, antipsychotic medication very well could act as a way of counteracting it.
<2021-03-25T00:38:10.000Z> tengumatingpress: ah, that does mean it probably wouldn't have been the magic bullet some guys were making it out to be
<2021-03-25T00:38:28.000Z> seseri: But most dysphoria doesn't present itself because of psychosis, pimozide and friends aren't really all they're made out to be
<2021-03-25T00:38:43.000Z> tengumatingpress: still think it merits more investigation, the effects of the associated surgeries seem awful enough that medicating it would be the lesser of two evils
<2021-03-25T00:39:02.000Z> seseri: Same reason why CBT/DBT and the like aren't incredibly effective
<2021-03-25T00:39:13.000Z> seseri: >associated surgeries
<2021-03-25T00:39:22.000Z> seseri: Those are actually more or less optional
<2021-03-25T00:39:34.000Z> seseri: Like I'm not planning on getting SRS
<2021-03-25T00:39:38.000Z> tengumatingpress: yeah, but enough people go through with them for it to be a problem
<2021-03-25T00:39:41.000Z> tengumatingpress: that's for the best
<2021-03-25T00:39:44.000Z> seseri: Because I don't feel dysphoric there
<2021-03-25T00:40:04.000Z> tengumatingpress: feels weird to actually be able to have a conversation about this lol
<2021-03-25T00:40:20.000Z> seseri: Ultimately it is the best option for those who are actually severely genitally dysphoric, but if you're on the fence or whatever I heavily recommend just keeping away from it
<2021-03-25T00:40:29.000Z> seseri: Why?
<2021-03-25T00:40:50.000Z> seseri: Too many unreasonable people on the internet I take it
<2021-03-25T00:41:02.000Z> tengumatingpress: I actually haven't been able to really discuss it in the areas I hang around that aren't exclusively nontrans and the ones that have a mix tend to moderate away from it
<2021-03-25T00:41:04.000Z> tengumatingpress: yeah, basically
<2021-03-25T00:41:45.000Z> seseri: I can understand why most people like to shy away from it, but in general it's something of a burning need for me
<2021-03-25T00:42:08.000Z> seseri: I *want* people to actually be informed about these things so that they can actually make decisions based on it and not just fall for propaganda from either of the lobbies
<2021-03-25T00:42:18.000Z> seseri: Or to put it another way
<2021-03-25T00:42:24.000Z> tengumatingpress: it's pretty far outside my experiences, can't say I understand but I won't hate people just for that
<2021-03-25T00:42:27.000Z> seseri: "How can you hate me when you don't even know me?"
<2021-03-25T00:42:42.000Z> seseri: Which granted isn't really you, but it's a lot of people on the net
<2021-03-25T00:43:14.000Z> tengumatingpress: it's hard for me to get angry at people who haven't given me a reason to be angry tbh
<2021-03-25T00:43:28.000Z> seseri: Lots of people just content to stay in their bubbles and cling on to their low-minded prejudices about their chosen "other"
<2021-03-25T00:43:46.000Z> seseri: And social media has only amplified this trend
<2021-03-25T00:44:18.000Z> tengumatingpress: I think a lot of the hostility is the result of the crazier ones ending up being disproportionately influential in certain communities
<2021-03-25T00:44:46.000Z> seseri: Definitely, and the internet plays no small part in that and in allowing them to radicalize
<2021-03-25T00:45:10.000Z> tengumatingpress: and putting kids on puberty blockers, but I think being mad about that came first for most of them
<2021-03-25T00:45:36.000Z> tengumatingpress: it's really hard to tell what's actually prevalent, considering media sensationalism
<2021-03-25T00:45:42.000Z> tengumatingpress: stopped paying attention a while ago tbh
<2021-03-25T00:45:51.000Z> seseri: Yeah I don't pay attention to zog media
<2021-03-25T00:46:03.000Z> seseri: No point really
<2021-03-25T00:46:16.000Z> seseri: (or the eternal anglo if you prefer)
<2021-03-25T00:46:34.000Z> tengumatingpress: judeo-anglo 
<2021-03-25T00:46:55.000Z> tengumatingpress: or  as I've taken to calling it, judaism plus anglos
<2021-03-25T00:46:59.000Z> seseri: XD
<2021-03-25T00:47:39.000Z> seseri: I mean when you look at the judaizing undercurrents in movements like puritanism, it's hard not to ascribe at least a certain degree of influence
<2021-03-25T00:47:47.000Z> seseri: Even if it isn't direct as a lot of people wish to claim
<2021-03-25T00:48:50.000Z> tengumatingpress: honestly I think it's more that the current system rewards what jews are traditionally good at, historically they haven't had nearly as much power
<2021-03-25T00:49:28.000Z> seseri: Unintended consequences of not allowing Jews to practice trades the normal way
<2021-03-25T00:50:07.000Z> seseri: Anti-usury laws can only get you so far before the entire fabric of polite society tears apart because of them
<2021-03-25T00:52:02.000Z> tengumatingpress: leaving an entire powerful institution to a foreign group really was a bad move
<2021-03-25T00:52:20.000Z> tengumatingpress: "a society gets the jews they deserves" etc
<2021-03-25T00:52:22.000Z> seseri: Not just leaving, but prohibiting them from anything else
<2021-03-25T00:52:24.000Z> seseri: Yeah basically
<2021-03-25T00:52:52.000Z> seseri: Those who fail to realize the importance of markets will eventually buy the rope with which to hang themselves
<2021-03-25T00:54:01.000Z> tengumatingpress: I think many of the smarter rightwingers have realized market forces aren't exactly on their side
<2021-03-25T00:54:29.000Z> seseri: I mean that's what fascism in its pure form is anyway
<2021-03-25T00:54:46.000Z> seseri: A repudiation of market forces in cultural and political development
<2021-03-25T00:55:10.000Z> tengumatingpress: I don't have much interest in political theory, so I'm unsure how well it works in practice
<2021-03-25T00:57:56.000Z> seseri: Yeah more or less, the big thing for me is that I'm an extreme civil libertarian because I've seen other practices to not have anything resembling the survivability required to build a flourishing society (although China comes worryingly close at times with their mirror image authoritarianism, fascism lite)
<2021-03-25T00:58:57.000Z> tengumatingpress: I'm curious about China's future, I've heard people say it isn't sustainable but it could be cope
<2021-03-25T00:59:41.000Z> seseri: I think there are a decent amount of long-term factors that could doom them, but their regime is nothing if not adaptable relatively speaking
<2021-03-25T01:00:43.000Z> tengumatingpress: basically every complaint about them could be made about America, it's ultimately a tribal conflict for the average hardcore anti China poaster
<2021-03-25T01:01:39.000Z> seseri: I wouldn't doubt it
<2021-03-25T01:02:26.000Z> tengumatingpress: a lot of guys don't even know most of the factories producing shit outsourced to China are run by Taiwanese businessmen lol
<2021-03-25T01:02:29.000Z> tengumatingpress: its a circus
<2021-03-25T01:02:34.000Z> seseri: Also if this conversation goes on too much longer, you're free to have my discord
<2021-03-25T01:02:48.000Z> tengumatingpress: maybe I'll ask about it later
<2021-03-25T01:02:51.000Z> seseri: Or telegram or whatever you prefer
<2021-03-25T01:02:53.000Z> seseri: Yeah~ ^^
<2021-03-25T01:03:02.000Z> tengumatingpress: you do seem pretty chill though
<2021-03-25T01:19:28.000Z> tengumatingpress: you don't have to spoiler doujin links btw, the mods don't really care as long as you label any pics sensitive
<2021-03-25T01:19:49.000Z> seseri: Ah yeah, good to know!
<2021-03-25T01:20:59.000Z> tengumatingpress: I literally got away with poasting a direct link to a Sankaku Complex about a futa hentai animation to complain about them failing to even credit the artist lol
<2021-03-25T01:21:23.000Z> seseri: LOL
<2021-03-25T01:23:57.000Z> tengumatingpress: I don't usually get mad about this sort of thing, but the article was an obvious fluff piece to make people buy a Sankaku Plus account, so it was very scummy imo
<2021-03-25T01:24:08.000Z> seseri: Yeah
<2021-03-25T02:21:07.000Z> tengumatingpress: any clue what some good languages for learning programming would be?
<2021-03-25T02:21:34.000Z> tengumatingpress: I don''t really know much beyond writing basic shell scripts, I tried reading SICP a few years back and got filtered hard
<2021-03-26T01:04:48.000Z> seseri: What do you want to do?
<2021-03-26T01:12:29.000Z> tengumatingpress: tbh I'm not entirely sure, I guess automate some tasks for tabletop campaigns
<2021-03-26T01:13:30.000Z> seseri: Then most any procedural language *should* do the job.  I've heard good things about Python and Lua for beginners in this respect
<2021-03-26T01:15:21.000Z> seseri: Or Go
<2021-03-26T01:15:44.000Z> seseri: Actually, I would probably recommend Go these days as "babby's first programming language"
<2021-03-26T01:40:47.000Z> tengumatingpress: yeah, Go seems the most useful if I actually want to move on to actually doing shit
<2021-03-26T01:40:59.000Z> tengumatingpress: though I've heard it's unsuitable for making gayms because of the garbage collector
<2021-03-26T01:41:40.000Z> seseri: Depends on the games, it doesn't really have a lot of libraries for making games (closest I can think of is ebiten?) but for 2D stuff a garbage collector isn't a huge deal
<2021-03-26T01:41:44.000Z> seseri: Hell, even 3D stuff to some extent
<2021-03-26T01:41:59.000Z> tengumatingpress: yeah, the sort of game I'm interested in making is a fighter, so it might not be very useful
<2021-03-26T01:41:59.000Z> seseri: Like you see Unity games written in C# and they work, resource hogs that they are
<2021-03-26T01:42:21.000Z> tengumatingpress: I think I read someone speculating that they could set it to work during hitstop, but it was in a thread a while ago
<2021-03-26T01:42:45.000Z> seseri: Yeah, if you can time collections, that definitely helps
<2021-03-26T01:43:13.000Z> seseri: Otherwise, most gamedev is in C or C++ and has been for the last 20 years or so
<2021-03-26T01:45:05.000Z> tengumatingpress: this is probably a non-programmer's pov, but C++ especially looks so ugly I can't imagine using it
<2021-03-26T01:45:17.000Z> tengumatingpress: I'm sure it doesn't look so bad when you know what the symbols are doing
<2021-03-26T01:45:23.000Z> seseri: Oh don't worry, I would never be caught dead using C++ either
<2021-03-26T01:45:47.000Z> tengumatingpress: I've heard the memes about it, but I like to think if something takes off it has to be useful for *something*
<2021-03-26T01:45:49.000Z> seseri: And even most gamedevs just use engines to abstract the gory bits away
<2021-03-26T01:46:21.000Z> seseri: Much of the reason it took off was Windows API being built around it
<2021-03-26T01:46:31.000Z> tengumatingpress: that explains a lot
<2021-03-26T01:46:33.000Z> seseri: (you -do not- want to write Win32 code in raw C unless you're a masochist)
<2021-03-26T01:46:47.000Z> seseri: (especially with Microsoft's compilers supporting nothing past C89)
<2021-03-26T01:47:13.000Z> seseri: Unix by contrast is mostly C outside of big cross-platform graphical applications
<2021-03-26T01:47:43.000Z> tengumatingpress: I know some guys still stand by C, though that runs on basically everything so it makes sense
<2021-03-26T01:48:05.000Z> seseri: Yeah and honestly it isn't half bad
<2021-03-26T01:48:13.000Z> seseri: Just kinda spartan
<2021-03-27T22:31:08.000Z> tengumatingpress: made a backup at Varis btw, starting to get a feeling about some of Graf's actions
<2021-03-27T22:34:50.000Z> seseri: Aye, followed from here and blobcat
<2021-03-27T22:53:56.000Z> tengumatingpress: based
<2021-05-07T13:42:59.000Z> tengumatingpress: out of curiosity, what text editor do you use?
<2021-05-07T13:43:07.000Z> tengumatingpress: you seem like the kind of person who'd have strong opinions on that lol