<2021-12-24T05:42:09.000Z> rudrajade: Hey EdBoat, sorry to bother you but I need your help with the linux installation.  I want to install from a USB drive but every tutorial refers to using a tarball.  When I search online on how to install from LiveUSB I get examples like this:  funtoo.org/LiveUSB 
<2021-12-24T05:43:06.000Z> rudrajade: That do not explain how it works on Windows.  I got the LiveUSB for windows, but there's no option for Funtoo and their downloads are tarballs.  I have no idea on what to do. I'm running around in circles.  Please help me out.
<2021-12-24T07:23:36.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: Gentoo can br installed from any linux distro, no need to use rescue CD, a good quick and dirty tip is to use an ubuntu live iso to install gentoo, since 1 ubuntu just works, 2 it will be a live env that you use only once, 3 can snatch the 
<2021-12-24T07:23:51.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: Nevermind that message
<2021-12-24T07:24:14.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: So u r in a windows host rn
<2021-12-24T07:24:29.000Z> rudrajade: Yes, this is my win7 machine.
<2021-12-24T07:24:50.000Z> rudrajade: I got that cable so my new PC is ready for the software.
<2021-12-24T07:25:01.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: rufus.ie/en/
<2021-12-24T07:25:24.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: In my opinion the best live usb creator for windows
<2021-12-24T07:28:50.000Z> rudrajade: None of them are ISOs though, unless they're wrapped in the tarballs?
<2021-12-24T07:28:52.000Z> rudrajade: funtoo.org/Amd64-zen2
<2021-12-24T07:31:25.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: Yeh it seems they are isos just wrapped in tarballs
<2021-12-24T07:39:56.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: youtu.be/SGtyCXjxR2E
<2021-12-24T07:40:30.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: After booting the live usb the process should be just the same
<2021-12-24T07:40:43.000Z> rudrajade: Thank you man, I appreciate it.
<2021-12-24T07:40:58.000Z> rudrajade: This is going to take time to extract, so I think I'll head to bed.
<2021-12-24T07:41:05.000Z> rudrajade: Good night, and merry christmas!
<2021-12-24T07:49:44.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: Merry christmass
<2021-12-24T07:50:15.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: Yeh that is the downside of isos in tarball
<2021-12-24T17:17:58.000Z> rudrajade: Good Mornin'
<2021-12-24T17:18:27.000Z> rudrajade: And this isn't an ISO at all, it's a full file collection...  I guess I have to convert this into an ISO?
<2021-12-24T19:40:44.000Z> rudrajade: Oh, that youtube link is over a year old, because the download_liveCD link now directs to the Gentoo minimal installation CD.
<2021-12-24T20:32:47.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: yes, iirc anyburn can make an iso from a folder in windows
<2021-12-24T20:32:48.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: anyburn.com/
<2021-12-26T23:18:02.000Z> rudrajade: I am installing gentoo instead< going through the steps on that one guys vid with the livecd.
<2021-12-26T23:26:30.000Z> rudrajade: problem is during this process i may have screwed up a step that involved chroot.  I typed in chroot /mnt/gentoo but went too fast and forgot the /bin/bash
<2021-12-26T23:26:47.000Z> rudrajade: So I type in chroot / /bin/bash thinking that would work
<2021-12-26T23:26:51.000Z> rudrajade: So far there was no issue
<2021-12-26T23:27:24.000Z> rudrajade: But when I did the emerge-webrsync a handful of packages failed because the linux folder in usr/src/ was missing.
<2021-12-26T23:27:41.000Z> rudrajade: How do I download a new linux kernel?
<2021-12-26T23:27:47.000Z> rudrajade: Because there's no symlink.
<2021-12-26T23:28:01.000Z> rudrajade: If the message failed to end, I said Hey There earlier...
<2021-12-26T23:43:30.000Z> rudrajade: Okay, now this is interesting, so the video the guy had was either missing a step or that he didn't have to worry about it because he started with linux mint...  I had to emerge the gentoo-sources
<2021-12-26T23:44:29.000Z> rudrajade: So I did that, and that worked out, but when I do the deep emerge, some of the dependences still faled.  The usr/src now has linux-5.15.11-gentoo
<2021-12-26T23:55:42.000Z> rudrajade: the handbook saves, had to eselect the kernel.  got the symlink.  but the rsync world is still failing on some installs like dbus
<2021-12-27T01:26:57.000Z> rudrajade: I better start over :P
<2021-12-27T04:16:32.000Z> rudrajade: Sneaky underscore
<2021-12-27T05:32:23.000Z> rudrajade: dbus refuses to cooperate and its pissing me off.  damn thing refuses to compile.
<2021-12-27T05:34:38.000Z> rudrajade: is it dependant on docbookx dtd?
<2021-12-27T05:38:33.000Z> rudrajade: there is something that was not covered in his videos that i have difficulty finding, how do you mkunt /run?
<2021-12-27T05:38:40.000Z> rudrajade: mount*
<2021-12-27T06:00:24.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: welp, i'm not experienced with gentoo, but this seems useful.
<2021-12-27T06:00:30.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: youtu.be/BN5rrCL6s1Q
<2021-12-27T17:00:17.000Z> rudrajade: wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#Mounting_the_necessary_filesystems   So there's a mount /run command.  Gotta love tutorials.
<2021-12-27T17:00:51.000Z> rudrajade: Didn't show up in that guy's tutorials. So this looks like this is a newer thing.  Now to start all over again after work.
<2021-12-27T17:08:34.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: welp, hate it when a distro's install process changes in so little time.
<2021-12-28T01:57:49.000Z> rudrajade: Managed to go through the whole process with no errors
<2021-12-28T01:58:16.000Z> rudrajade: Thought I was done, but it seems not because when I finally started to boot, got stuck on initial ramdisk message
<2021-12-28T03:02:46.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: F
<2021-12-28T03:05:51.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: unironically me being too lazy for the manual install just to get to a cli log was the reason i never got into arch nor any of the others similar, i'm too lazy to do anything more involved than a debian netinstall.
<2022-01-09T05:19:50.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: For an image viewer gib a look to this github.com/nsxiv/nsxiv
<2022-01-09T05:20:18.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: I sometimes help in the repo as a glorified tie breaker
<2022-01-09T05:21:01.000Z> rudrajade: Thank you! I'll have to check my locales in the system and the clock, possible conflicts.
<2022-01-09T05:21:09.000Z> rudrajade: But that's after the RANDBERG show
<2022-01-09T05:29:58.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: Yeh locales can be annoying.
<2022-01-10T01:44:03.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: wallhaven.cc/w/vgp7qp
<2022-01-13T04:07:36.000Z> rudrajade: Hey EdBoat, how are you doing?  My Gentoo has been stable so far, the issues I am facing now are: ALSA isn't configured (I can't hear anything), and there's a game that might be too out of date when I attempt to download the package?  It's an old action game called Abuse (gentoo lists the package as games-action/abuse).  Tried installing it earlier but a package it requires demands a requirement I can't follow.  ABI_X86=(64) -32 (-x32) where the 64 is in red.  It's a hardened multilib system by default, and I set that value in my make.conf but it doesn't work...  Do you have a similar scenario in your machine or is this exclusively a Gentoo problem?
<2022-01-13T04:26:05.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: you need to activate multilib support
<2022-01-13T04:26:51.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Multilib
<2022-01-13T04:27:44.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: onto the alsa thing... i don't know how to configure alsa tbh, i'm lazy and just use pulseaudio, altho i have the plan to swtich over to pipewire
<2022-01-13T04:28:31.000Z> rudrajade: Didn't realize about the multilib provider, thanks for that!
<2022-01-13T04:28:55.000Z> rudrajade: I'll have to dig further for ALSA. At least I know the sound drivers and codecs work since alsa detects them at least...
<2022-01-13T04:29:34.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: anything that requires 32bit libs will require multilib, for example stuff like wine or steam
<2022-01-13T04:29:56.000Z> rudrajade: Weird, since I was able to install wine without issue...
<2022-01-13T04:30:05.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: on the alsa thing, i'm not even sure if it is worth it to run a pure alsa setup
<2022-01-13T04:30:31.000Z> rudrajade: Maybe that game will install now? I'll have to try tomorrow.
<2022-01-13T04:30:42.000Z> rudrajade: Thank you EdBoat!
<2022-01-13T04:30:46.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: i mean, you can install wine without 32bit support but stuff that requires 32bit libs from wine will just not work
<2022-01-13T04:31:22.000Z> rudrajade attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/66ac8b4edb741cb00947971fcb2b29cbe6c06f57cac451d83ce0c8075ac51263.jpg
<2022-01-13T04:32:11.000Z> rudrajade: Nikusubear 4U
<2022-01-13T04:34:57.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: on the alsa setup, there are some programs that will require pulse to work, meanwhile any self respecting audio software will require jack, in that respect pipewire seems interesting as it can provide pulseaudio emulation along jack emulation.
<2022-01-14T08:02:40.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: btw, if at any time you find yourself lacking some ram for compiling stuff i made a service script for zram
<2022-01-14T08:06:45.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: got a couple mirrors up
<2022-01-14T08:07:32.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: github.com/eylles/zram-service
<2022-01-14T08:07:39.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: gitlab.com/eylles/zram-service
<2022-01-14T08:07:45.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: codeberg.org/eylles/zram-service
<2022-01-14T16:05:37.000Z> rudrajade: I set a swap for 64G at least,  would that cause any issues?
<2022-01-14T16:08:11.000Z> rudrajade: The ram in the system is 32G
<2022-01-14T17:45:48.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: Swap is slow since it runs on disk (hdd / ssd) and from what i've seen not even fast ssds can compete with ram speed
<2022-01-14T17:47:11.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: With zram setting the percentage to 200% is reasonable for lz4 compression (should "store" 64GB of data compressed into 32GB of physical ram)
<2022-01-14T19:55:07.000Z> rudrajade: Even with a Gen-4 M2 drive?
<2022-01-14T20:44:39.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: I think yes, but haven't seen the numbers for gen 4 m.2
<2022-01-16T19:44:13.000Z> rudrajade: Hey EdBoat, on my linux machine right now
<2022-01-16T21:37:32.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: Send screenshot
<2022-01-16T21:37:21.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: Noice
<2022-01-23T05:25:26.000Z> rudrajade: After over 10 days of hell, I finally got a reinstall that works.
<2022-01-23T05:25:42.000Z> rudrajade: Embarrasing.  Remind me not to do a custom genkernel ever again.
<2022-01-23T05:25:49.000Z> rudrajade: Now I need to make a screenshot of my system.
<2022-01-23T06:01:21.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: if you wanna go the super minimalist route imagemagick can take screenshots fine enough
<2022-01-23T06:02:40.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: i personally like maim since it is simple and fast along having the feature to select are with the mouse
<2022-02-26T20:29:17.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: how into ricing u plan to get?
<2022-02-26T20:29:50.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: cuz i just pulled the trigger on mantaining a permanent pywal fork...
<2022-02-26T20:29:53.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: github.com/eylles/pywal16
<2022-03-08T14:04:50.000Z> rudrajade: I'm going to do the reversal route with a full copy of gentoo and try to shut off the kernel flags afterwards, because trying to get the stuff I don't want has been a disaster.
<2022-03-09T05:28:32.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: lol, yeh kernel build config can be a headache
<2022-03-09T05:29:00.000Z> EdBoatConnoisseur: that is the reason many don't even bother doing that but afther they got a full working system