<2022-09-17T16:27:25.000Z> reloadedAK: Not even trying to start a fight man but at this point it's best to just let sleeping dogs lie. Everyone is just trying to do what they think is best. Building up self reliance and cleaving to others who think the same way as you do is still a lot of what the local groups try to do.
<2022-09-17T16:27:34.000Z> reloadedAK: Hell 
<2022-09-17T16:28:13.000Z> reloadedAK: I talked to some of the local NJP guys and they would go on about raising their chickens  and goats and the gardens they are setting up to become anti fragile. 
<2022-09-17T16:43:05.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: Oh 
<2022-09-17T16:43:11.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: no, but i can see why you'd think that
<2022-09-17T16:43:27.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: anti fragility is good, and I'm glad they're doing that at least
<2022-09-17T16:43:55.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: No, I heard the "don't talk about it" line over months and the Christian thing occurred to me
<2022-09-17T16:43:56.000Z> reloadedAK: That's what they do. One of the guys I know is setting up a chicken coop. 
<2022-09-17T16:44:57.000Z> reloadedAK: Yes I would love it if the TDS guys would shut up about Christianity because they don't know much about it at all besides what they have been told and what they are choosing to see in modern churches
<2022-09-17T16:45:12.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: that's my thing
<2022-09-17T16:45:15.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: they're immature
<2022-09-17T16:45:23.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: they can't let it go for a bigger project
<2022-09-17T16:45:33.000Z> reloadedAK: Mike says he has read the bible, I bet he has read some of it but he doesn't UNDERSTAND
<2022-09-17T16:45:48.000Z> reloadedAK: And he won't until he wants the scales to fall off his eyes
<2022-09-17T16:46:07.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: he's a fat facebook atheist debater and it shows
<2022-09-17T16:46:22.000Z> reloadedAK: Everyone has their priors
<2022-09-17T16:46:30.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: Sorry, once the rose colored glasses about TRS come off, things look very different
<2022-09-17T16:46:50.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: Mike Sven and Mcnabb are the *core* of TRS and NJP
<2022-09-17T16:47:01.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: and none of them are adult enough to NOT antagonize Christians
<2022-09-17T16:47:11.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: They're UNDISCIPLINED
<2022-09-17T16:47:18.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: I don't and *can't* trust them
<2022-09-17T16:47:52.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: I've been both subordinate to REAL leadership and a leader myself
<2022-09-17T16:47:57.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: They're NOT leaders and it shows
<2022-09-17T16:48:05.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: Warren gives me leader vibes
<2022-09-17T16:49:31.000Z> reloadedAK: I don't know if Warren in particular has leader vibes, He definitely wants to mimic Hitler and he has been in this thing the longest out of any of the other leadership, but he still screams of "not quite there"
<2022-09-17T16:49:40.000Z> reloadedAK: I mean ffs he's a vegetarian
<2022-09-17T16:50:35.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: I think he's the most mature person they have, I didn't say he was perfect lmao
<2022-09-17T16:51:27.000Z> reloadedAK: I didn't mean to say I want him to be. But yeah I guess he would be the most mature person in the leadership. 
<2022-09-17T16:52:54.000Z> reloadedAK: Thing is none of them really give off the vibe of "I have been through some shit and my mettle has been tested to its breaking point" Like Hitler did. He served in WW1
<2022-09-17T16:53:17.000Z> reloadedAK: Went to prison for a year and was constantly part of fighting back Antifa back then
<2022-09-17T16:54:55.000Z> reloadedAK: Closest thing I could think of is Smasher for being a vet but he was a flight jockey. High level flight jockey mind you, but a flight jockey. 
<2022-09-17T16:55:46.000Z> reloadedAK: I don't know maybe it's just going to have to be "fake it til you make it"
<2022-09-17T16:57:34.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: I've worked for people who are true leaders and haven't seen war
<2022-09-17T16:57:47.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: for me leadership is a combination of maturity, duty, and compassion
<2022-09-17T16:58:11.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: seeing trs people write off incels (a group I don't belong to) and zoomers and stuff shows they're not compassionate
<2022-09-17T16:58:15.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: there's loads of examples
<2022-09-17T16:58:29.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: but they don't need to be seasoned warriors, just ....leaders
<2022-09-17T16:59:33.000Z> reloadedAK: For what is probably to come to pull us out of this. Some sort of vet will probably need to be in a prominent role. Because gruesome shit is happening already, and it's probably going to get worse before we make it through
<2022-09-17T17:00:05.000Z> reloadedAK: You are right there are good civilian leaders. But there is going to be a fight most likely by the end of this
<2022-09-17T17:01:05.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: yeah NJP not incorporating a physical fitness component is another enormous mistake
<2022-09-17T17:01:09.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: PF got this right
<2022-09-17T17:01:17.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: but fatboy mike would be excluded
<2022-09-17T17:01:37.000Z> reloadedAK: Yeah it's funny. PF has decent physical fitness standards. NJP has the OPSEC
<2022-09-17T17:02:16.000Z> reloadedAK: But it seems like PF buts heads with NJP. They had a demonstration in Indianapolis, not even 2 hours away from Columbus
<2022-09-17T17:03:05.000Z> reloadedAK: But i'm hopping off for a bit to get some chores done. Good chatting with you Hikari.
<2022-09-17T17:04:24.000Z> hikari@shortstackran.ch: you too fam