<2023-02-24T01:58:11.000Z> hazlin: Hey there, I liked your post on that HCN calculation, I wrote up a rely, then realized, I don't want to be associated xD, that is, I don't actually want to spend my time talking about it, or have it publicly associated with me, without benefit. AnywayIf any of my reply's information interests you, feel free to use it without attribution. 
<2023-02-24T01:58:18.000Z> hazlin: I agree with your conclusion. To add, the term Partial Vapor Pressure is one I expected to appear in a discussion on evaporation. If I recall correctly this should govern the rate of transfer to the air, the maximum concentration available at a specific temperature. The second factor effecting the rate of evaporation is the surface area (which makes the geometry, initial, and overtime important).The third would be the purity of the starting material.The fourth, would be loss due to passive venting, if I recall correctly we are talking about regular wooden doors on the rooms.On the other side of the evaporation problem, is even in his loose ideal case, he is talking about adding more than 50x the amount into the system to quickly achieve the desired concentration, BUT that creates a lingering hazard. It means you can't wait for it all to boil off, that 50 x 10 minutes later or 8 hours later the idealized concentration would still be above lethal levels. Which would necessitate some sort of bazaar procedure, of putting the room under heavy ventilation (I don't recall that being part of the design for the rooms), and then sending someone inside to repackage the material. Then decontaminating the person. HCN at ambient temperatures is also lighters than air, which may mean even in the ideal case, it could take longer than 10 minutes to reach an LD100 for humans at ground level.I'm not sure where the 300ppm comes from either. I am used to chemicals reporting an LD50 number (which would be the dose required to kill 50% of a population for a specific species, usually represented in terms for rats). The only Material Data Safety Sheet, for HCN provides: "Oral LD50 (mice): 3700 ug/kg" with the recommended peak exposure listed as "10ppm sk". How does one make the jump from these data points to 300ppm respiratory LD100 (human)?But, I think the beginning of your analysis raises the most important question, what is the percent concentration of HCN in Zyklon B? The NIH says Zyklon B is simply an alias for HCN (which made me burst out laughing). The LD50 (rat) for DDT is 195mg/kg, which makes it 52x less lethal than pure HCN. And, DDT, in so far as I know had the same historical use as Zyklon B, so I think it is safe to assume a similar LD50 (rat). And, while there may be other physical limitations that make that ideal system analysis invalid, I think this would trump them all.
<2023-02-24T02:00:03.000Z> hazlin: Sadly, I could neither find the MSDS for Zyklon B, nor the % concentrations of chemicals used in its commercial form.
<2023-02-24T02:14:27.000Z> mkultra: ??
<2023-02-24T02:14:40.000Z> mkultra: you don't want to be publicly associated with the holocaust or me?
<2023-02-24T02:16:06.000Z> hazlin: pff, no I mean the holocaust stuff, I don't mind saying it is unto, I just don't want that to become a strong association with my account xD
<2023-02-24T02:16:33.000Z> hazlin: untrue, or a fabrication, or any of that stuff
<2023-02-24T02:16:38.000Z> mkultra: gotcha
<2023-02-24T02:17:06.000Z> mkultra: well you've got some good analysis, but the SDS for zyklon in this case would be HCN
<2023-02-24T02:17:26.000Z> mkultra: But you're on the same track I am
<2023-02-24T02:17:31.000Z> hazlin: oh, is it really? lol, well that is good to know xD
<2023-02-24T02:17:57.000Z> mkultra: Zyklon B is a trade name for HCN using a gypsum delivery system
<2023-02-24T02:18:20.000Z> mkultra: Im pretty sure rudolph lists the amount per pellet in his book but wyatt isn't going to respond to me b/c I raped his source in public
<2023-02-24T02:18:29.000Z> mkultra: its not worth getting into the weeds
<2023-02-24T02:19:22.000Z> hazlin: ahhh okay that makes sense. Yeah, I wouldn't expect the % HCN to be anywhere near 99%
<2023-02-24T02:19:29.000Z> mkultra: As a holocaust debater there is one core of advice, make the conversation technical and in an area where you know more than your opponent.I know more about mass transfer than 95% of people b/c its obscure. Its relevant though, so that's my pressure point
<2023-02-24T02:19:33.000Z> mkultra: well sure
<2023-02-24T02:19:44.000Z> mkultra: that's why I pointed out it was a shitty asumption
<2023-02-24T02:20:01.000Z> mkultra: also its sloppy to swap HCN with ZB when they're different substances
<2023-02-24T02:20:37.000Z> mkultra: Technically zyklon works by absorbing water (which gypsum attracts), the HCN is dissolved into the water and then evaporates into the air
<2023-02-24T02:21:00.000Z> mkultra: thats a 3 layer differential equation without regards to the distribution of concentration throughout the room, lol
<2023-02-24T02:23:00.000Z> hazlin: Yes, what I kept thinking was, "this makes no sense as a just wait for evaporation problem", like, I can't even take it seriously if they are using a heater of some sort facilitate rabbit evaporation... but I didn't want to point out any solutions, just hit the problem areas
<2023-02-24T02:23:22.000Z> hazlin: if they are not* using
<2023-02-24T02:23:26.000Z> mkultra: yeah 100%
<2023-02-24T02:31:11.000Z> hazlin: Anyway, thanks, I've got an even better grasp on the impracticality of the holocaust xD You may not know this, but I've been enjoying your posts sense before I was on shortstackranch, even got you subscribed xDI didn't do a lot of commenting on platinum's truth threads either, but I've really enjoyed both your content. Essentially, being associated you with, is a good thing in my book, and I appreciate you, just wanted to clear that up, since it wasn't clear at the beginning of my chat messages xD
<2023-02-24T02:32:14.000Z> hazlin: And, I wouldn't have even sent to reply to you as a DM if I didn't have some trust in you :D
<2023-02-24T02:32:42.000Z> hazlin: I don't think you'd do something to cause trouble for me, and that goes a long ways for me
<2023-02-24T02:32:53.000Z> mkultra: lol
<2023-02-24T02:32:58.000Z> mkultra: take care man