<2022-09-23T21:50:50.000Z> in_vexillum: Just so you're aware, Kinochet is also massively up in a bunch of discords running gayops for the commentary community. The fake Pantsu wasn't lying when they said he was leaking all of Flamenco's discord to deorio and others . He was openly encouraging people to dox others when he was a mod there to discredit the server further.
<2022-09-23T21:55:06.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: Got it. Thank you friend. Figured as much. I will be careful.
<2022-09-23T21:58:05.000Z> in_vexillum: He's a disigenuous little shithead. He's had 4 twitter acocunts banned, banned from many discords, banned from KF, and rubs shoulders with super shady people.
<2022-09-23T21:59:41.000Z> in_vexillum: From what I understand he's pressed his luck hard here on poast as well. He was banned from Flamenco's server where he was a mod when it came out that another mod admitted to having a sexual relationship when they were both minors and kinochet was telling users he would let them face dox the sister who was the victim.
<2022-09-23T22:08:59.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: Holy shit 
<2022-09-23T22:09:30.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: Yeah I figured he was evil from the moment I saw him but holy shit lmao. 
<2022-09-23T22:10:03.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: Yeah he's posted doxx shit on here several times and only hasn't gotten banned because he begged Graf to not ban him. He should never have been allowed here. 
<2022-09-23T22:36:23.000Z> in_vexillum: When Flamenco banned him he spent two months in his YT chat having a fucking meltdown begging, bribing and threatening him every day
<2022-09-23T22:39:05.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: Lmfao
<2022-09-23T22:39:24.000Z> in_vexillum: he is one of the largest clout chasing shitheads in this region of the internet and as soon as KF is running in a week or two he's almost certainly getting his own thread
<2022-09-23T22:41:44.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: Good. He and if deserve each other 
<2022-09-23T22:42:02.000Z> in_vexillum: he and who?
<2022-09-23T22:45:22.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: Kf forum feds. Fucking autocorrect lmao
<2022-09-23T22:45:32.000Z> in_vexillum: hahaha
<2022-09-23T22:45:35.000Z> in_vexillum: gotcha
<2022-09-23T22:45:45.000Z> in_vexillum: yeah, his ass is gonna get doxed
<2022-09-23T22:46:26.000Z> in_vexillum: he had a spat with me where he literally said that his 320 hours on xenoblade 3 in one month along with his being online all day talkign shit proves how bad ass he is
<2022-09-23T22:46:32.000Z> in_vexillum: he was dead serious
<2022-09-23T22:47:06.000Z> in_vexillum: like, holy shit, I get it that this part of the internet has NEETS and useless weebs but jesus fucking christ
<2022-09-23T22:47:24.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: I'm not a fan of people getting their lives ruined over memes but he has made his life a meme. Literally the walking embodiment of "my mom said I did a good job tying my shoes today, that makes me special"
<2022-09-23T22:47:43.000Z> in_vexillum: so my thinking on all this is simple
<2022-09-23T22:48:11.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: Dude acts like he's hot shit for documenting every unfunny thing Ralph does and he's used to twitter bots and YouTube bots giving him validation 
<2022-09-23T22:48:37.000Z> in_vexillum: if you decide you want to attempt to make money by placing yourself in the public eye and asking for cash, you are inviting criticism and encouraging people to dig through your public information
<2022-09-23T22:49:15.000Z> in_vexillum: thats a known thing you should be ready for before you decide to make accounts and turn on the camera
<2022-09-23T22:49:28.000Z> in_vexillum: not talking about hacking or anything against the law
<2022-09-23T22:49:49.000Z> in_vexillum: but, be prepared for any tweet, any video, and social media or public record you have to be found
<2022-09-23T22:50:00.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: This is true. Especially where his "content" is 100% just him doing that to other people. 
<2022-09-23T22:50:12.000Z> in_vexillum: and if that thought upsets you, don't fucking try and play the game
<2022-09-23T22:50:20.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: Yup
<2022-09-23T22:50:38.000Z> in_vexillum: so thats why i don't have an issue with KF for the most part
<2022-09-23T22:51:17.000Z> in_vexillum: almost all the people with threads made the conscious choice to step into the public arena and try to make money from their attempt at becoming well known
<2022-09-23T22:51:37.000Z> in_vexillum: at that point, anyone documenting anything you release publicly
<2022-09-23T22:51:51.000Z> in_vexillum: can't really be seen as evil
<2022-09-23T22:51:55.000Z> in_vexillum: its shitty
<2022-09-23T22:51:57.000Z> in_vexillum: sure
<2022-09-23T22:52:17.000Z> in_vexillum: but its not breaking a law and the streamer was the one that stepped out into the arena first
<2022-09-23T22:52:24.000Z> in_vexillum: they knocked over this chain of dominos
<2022-09-23T22:52:44.000Z> in_vexillum: will I say KF is a good place, with totally good people
<2022-09-23T22:52:46.000Z> in_vexillum: god no
<2022-09-23T22:53:00.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: They dont just catalog it though, they fuck with people to drive them insane on purpose. Without if Chris Chan wouldn't have gone neay as far as he did 
<2022-09-23T22:53:01.000Z> in_vexillum: its filled with tons of bitter fucking assholes haha
<2022-09-23T22:53:13.000Z> in_vexillum: well, so thats the thing
<2022-09-23T22:53:24.000Z> in_vexillum: i've spent a good amount of time there
<2022-09-23T22:53:49.000Z> in_vexillum: anyone who posts anything about interacting with someone being covered gets warned and banned
<2022-09-23T22:53:54.000Z> in_vexillum: pretty efficiently too
<2022-09-23T22:54:16.000Z> in_vexillum: and on every page there is a literal warning stating not to interact with those covered in no uncertain terms
<2022-09-23T22:54:45.000Z> in_vexillum: there are also many more sites like KF such as /cow/, lolcow.farms and others
<2022-09-23T22:54:51.000Z> in_vexillum: who do the same thing
<2022-09-23T22:55:13.000Z> in_vexillum: the real place any harassment and trolling happens are on private discord servers
<2022-09-23T22:55:29.000Z> in_vexillum: which are not affiliated with the farms
<2022-09-23T22:56:20.000Z> in_vexillum: and while i understand how people could feel there is some overlap I can tell you from experience and observation that the harassers are people who would be doing this with or without KF
<2022-09-23T22:56:47.000Z> in_vexillum: in fact the group committing all the swattings are doing it specifically to damage Josh and KF in an attempt to keep it down
<2022-09-23T22:57:20.000Z> in_vexillum: they are made up of a group of KF users who were banned by josh for specifically breaking the rules and trying to harass or damage the people being followed
<2022-09-23T22:57:46.000Z> in_vexillum: the problem is its a hell of a lot to explain and its not an easy headlin
<2022-09-23T22:57:48.000Z> in_vexillum: headline
<2022-09-23T22:58:20.000Z> in_vexillum: and it doesn't help when little shitheads like kinochet pour gas on everything and stir fake shit up for personal clout
<2022-09-24T00:45:50.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: They're all fed-adjacent and I don't really care what their internal politics are. I saw how Josh treated Poast people who asked him to shut down the Poast thread when it was literally just jack Awful and a dozen others coordinating stirring shit up over here. 
<2022-09-24T00:46:35.000Z> Saber@shortstackran.ch: They're all evil,  even forum people would get their own mother to commit suicide if it would entertain them for a few minutes.