<2022-07-08T02:42:09.000Z> moomin: hey your art is incredible. have you considered making hyperborian webm's? 
<2022-07-08T02:42:32.000Z> drawthentic: ahaha yes, i belong to an art group and we have considered the idea, it would take a while but it could be done
<2022-07-08T02:50:30.000Z> moomin: I have made a bunch of hyperborian webms but mostly using art already available. I would love to get introduced to your group. I'm not talented at all with illustrations, but I am a good writer and researcher. I'll send you some examples of stuff. If you could create OC content it would be a huge deal. Have you read any of Miguel Serrano's books? A lot of the ideas have never had illustrations. There is so much untapped content stuck in the pages of esoteric books that would come alive with a talented illustrator. I can provide the folklore and esoteric ideas by the truckload. Have been researching folklore and the esoteric full time for the last decade or so. If you would like to build a research group to put these ideas into visual form it would be incredible to work with you. 
<2022-07-08T02:52:57.000Z> drawthentic: i haven't read him. In some ways i consider my work almost anti-esoteric, i like to envision a future that people both want and need
<2022-07-08T02:53:16.000Z> drawthentic: but a lot of the right has become interested in esoteric ideas so it might be interesting
<2022-07-08T02:53:41.000Z> drawthentic: i think what would be cool is to merge esotericism and 'populism' into a single dark wave webm
<2022-07-08T02:58:58.000Z> moomin: "i like to envision a future that people both want and need" exactly this. https://i.poastcdn.org/9a33be151ee13b0aaf35f63448bb2666f2940be78f2b7655c877c5fe8c667e25.mp4
<2022-07-08T03:06:00.000Z> moomin: another example. many of these ideas are lying stagnant on paper and people are not interested in dead things or reading. but to show these ideas with new life where they hold new meanings. this stuff is literal magic if you think about it.  https://i.poastcdn.org/07e11ededf04fd7805b16105aab197a7adc4c677af682e4263ab5de4030ff9b5.webm
<2022-07-08T03:07:20.000Z> drawthentic: yes i think what the right wing needs most is new art spammed in the usual dark age kaleidoscope edit format
<2022-07-08T03:07:29.000Z> drawthentic: unironically
<2022-07-08T03:10:27.000Z> moomin: Have you looked into any of the /x/ Law of Attraction stuff or Neville Goddard? The visual is a literal spell that you are casting on someone where you show them a future or possibility that were not even aware of or have considered, and they are caught in the stream of the beauty and enjoyment of the visual experience firstly and the possibility you give them is secondary.
<2022-07-08T03:10:55.000Z> moomin: This is the opposite of doctrine where someone tells people "you should do this because"
<2022-07-08T03:10:56.000Z> drawthentic: yeah and the borea memes take it up cuz of their hypnotizing editing
<2022-07-08T03:11:02.000Z> drawthentic: yes i agree
<2022-07-08T03:11:10.000Z> drawthentic: there's too many words on the right and not enough pictures
<2022-07-08T03:12:22.000Z> moomin: "there's too many words on the right and not enough pictures" exactly.  https://i.poastcdn.org/21b3ae694b50b953a63dbceb29e2a7d908826ac64ec927724ea972b8dc1f5923.mp4
<2022-07-08T03:13:48.000Z> moomin: this is not really about ferrets, its about poa.st with the ferret as the hook.
<2022-07-08T03:14:23.000Z> drawthentic: it might work better if poast's logo is a ferret
<2022-07-08T03:16:14.000Z> moomin: haha yes, i don't really remember why there were ferrets to be honest.  https://i.poastcdn.org/f2613a7a4266bbc9dc5b527390d922992b1190bbc49f4a6a8c990f816506c8c0.webm
<2022-07-08T03:17:09.000Z> drawthentic: the most interesting thing about THE ALT RIGHT™ is how much they like my images of young men and women together
<2022-07-08T03:18:28.000Z> moomin: this webm's I sent are not as good as they can be. its mostly reused images, if we had OC illustrations it would make a huge difference. 
<2022-07-08T03:18:55.000Z> drawthentic: i liked during the golden age of hyperborea the kaleidoscope spinny tunnel bits
<2022-07-08T03:19:07.000Z> drawthentic: i reckon images could be created solely to be twisted like that
<2022-07-08T03:22:25.000Z> moomin: Presenting young men and women as an ideal but done in an interesting manner where it is not preachy or doctrine but could stand on its own is sorely needed.  https://i.poastcdn.org/44e4c02120c4fbe087334da34040344a039abb683a5b07e58a109773c5585480.mp4
<2022-07-08T03:23:47.000Z> drawthentic: yeah im thinkin i need to transition to just drawing groups of young people in right wing situations lol
<2022-07-08T03:24:28.000Z> drawthentic: this is a WIP of my next artowkr, i reckon it will do well cuz the characters are younger than 25 https://i.poastcdn.org/e435a9d9babd3073094406402b9f2f7f7c555571ed186071aaac8533eae80d32.png
<2022-07-08T03:25:43.000Z> moomin: I dig the ballistic cyberpunk gambeson. Very futuristic. 
<2022-07-08T03:26:19.000Z> drawthentic: yes i love the design it is the product of much work
<2022-07-08T03:26:27.000Z> drawthentic: many inspo leaps
<2022-07-08T03:29:52.000Z> moomin: Have you read "Herman Loens - Der Werwolf"? Its about peasants using werewolf inspired guerilla tactics. I have an idea that the werewolf idea in itself is that. Shapeshifter guerilla tactics mistaken as a wolfman, but also encouraged. 
<2022-07-08T03:30:17.000Z> drawthentic: havent read it but yes, psychowarfare
<2022-07-08T03:33:06.000Z> moomin: But this in itself might become a survival future. I can already see something between that and cyberpunk happening in the future in the next few decades. But this is all dystopic route.    Have you noticed how there is almost no art or stories regarding a hopeful future? like why can't there be a hopeful blade runner where the future is incredible. a hopeful cyberpunk, where technology and our people can be shown a future that they want to live in.
<2022-07-08T03:34:05.000Z> drawthentic: yes im basically making the good ending
<2022-07-08T03:37:47.000Z> moomin: You know that feeling in a scifi where someone predicted a technology? Like take VR for example, sure it is shown in a negative light, but can you imagine the Volkshalle in VR? Or thousands of artworks in the Louvre or British Museum in VR? We are only ever shown the negative side. Where are the people dreaming about the hopeful side where this tech is put to good use. Like imagine Goebbels with VR tech? 
<2022-07-08T03:38:23.000Z> drawthentic: most tech is probably bad and will be banned in the ethnostate
<2022-07-08T03:38:30.000Z> drawthentic: but i still vie for megastructures
<2022-07-08T03:43:59.000Z> moomin: "most tech is bad" yes I agree. I'm actually a semi anprim, if I had my way I would entirely reforest Europe and the US so we could have hundreds of millions of deer and be able to hunt again and collect firewood as a means of living, while having useful technology, and get rid of all buildings younger than 50 years and replace them with natural dwellings that incorporate good tech whil using stone and wood, but keep a very high density of Oak trees. But I can recognize tools that we should use and make exceptions for.  If it makes us stronger or helps it should be used.
<2022-07-08T03:51:32.000Z> moomin: another https://i.poastcdn.org/b83d1d7ea97be189ef1d6bf02347c8b82663e6cc16e76f909cf425e2fd0597f3.mp4
<2022-07-08T03:54:21.000Z> moomin: Did you know Germany before WW2 invented Video Calling?
<2022-07-08T03:54:41.000Z> drawthentic: no, funny lol
<2022-07-08T03:56:10.000Z> moomin: mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/before-second-world-war-nazi-5538990
<2022-07-08T03:59:06.000Z> moomin: have you seen Asha Logos' videos?
<2022-07-08T04:00:47.000Z> moomin: odysee.com/@ashalogos:92/conspiracy-our-subverted-history-part-3:1
<2022-07-08T04:01:50.000Z> moomin: Asha Logo's research group is also looking for illustrators to help him show his message. I highly recommend watching his Conspiracy? Our Subverted History series.
<2022-07-08T04:06:25.000Z> moomin attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/401e3bfa327c815db02d9dbddbdc719a96f609e4694ff975d46094f4bc4816ac.jpg
<2022-07-08T04:07:15.000Z> moomin: renegadetribune.com/the-germanic-pagan-art-of-ludwig-fahrenkrog/
<2022-07-08T04:07:29.000Z> moomin: renegadetribune.com/bavarian-summer-the-bucolic-volkish-art-of-emil-rau/
<2022-07-08T04:07:44.000Z> moomin: I did research for both of these. 
<2022-07-08T04:07:47.000Z> drawthentic: is renegade right wing
<2022-07-08T04:09:13.000Z> moomin: Ludwig Fahrenkrog is one of my favourite painters. Also Fidus. 
<2022-07-08T04:09:16.000Z> moomin: renegadetribune.com/volkisch-virile-art-fidus/
<2022-07-08T04:12:57.000Z> moomin attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/6db172ae2333e1be0934ed0511cdd640ec2a4c2065f2ca61e6de1b904e9362cf.jpeg
<2022-07-08T04:13:12.000Z> drawthentic: it's me without gyns
<2022-07-08T04:13:14.000Z> drawthentic: guns
<2022-07-08T04:19:08.000Z> moomin: renegade are renegades, i don't think there is a single person the alt right they haven't written a hit piece on calling them not extreme enough or controlled opposition. 
<2022-07-08T04:19:19.000Z> drawthentic: lmao funny
<2022-07-08T04:19:31.000Z> drawthentic: did you watch the passage prize
<2022-07-08T04:22:33.000Z> moomin: who knows, could be feds could not be, the nature of political stuff is dangerous so you can never be 100% sure of any site, they have done some weird stuff in the past like all the big sites, but we are all flawed so its partthey can be threatened at any time to becone controlled opposition. I just go with what I know so far. they have some interesting material though 
<2022-07-08T04:22:52.000Z> moomin: passage prize? 
<2022-07-08T04:23:20.000Z> drawthentic: lol amusing how few know about it
<2022-07-08T04:23:31.000Z> drawthentic: it was an 'art' competition ran last year into this year
<2022-07-08T04:24:38.000Z> moomin: interesting, who held it? 
<2022-07-08T04:24:51.000Z> drawthentic: l0m3z, moldbug, gio
<2022-07-08T04:24:53.000Z> drawthentic: and 0hp
<2022-07-08T04:30:44.000Z> moomin: interesting, who won?
<2022-07-08T04:33:27.000Z> drawthentic: well this was third place
<2022-07-08T04:33:48.000Z> drawthentic attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/1cd991fd123dfbd5e917712e36cec4e2269d3be8c59fa85eab18fb4b2173d284.jpg
<2022-07-08T04:33:56.000Z> drawthentic: for visual art
<2022-07-08T04:43:09.000Z> moomin: Gives me Prodigy "Day is my enemy" vibes
<2022-07-08T04:43:50.000Z> drawthentic: worth a thousand dollars apparentl
<2022-07-08T04:44:35.000Z> moomin: the nft? lol its mine now
<2022-07-08T04:45:14.000Z> drawthentic: no the prize
<2022-07-08T04:45:24.000Z> drawthentic: for 3rd
<2022-07-08T04:47:50.000Z> moomin: woah decent
<2022-07-08T04:50:45.000Z> moomin: im into gif pixel arthttps://poa.st/@evabraunblackface/posts/ALBnbwBWablj0m2NKS
<2022-07-08T04:50:55.000Z> moomin: poa.st/@evabraunblackface/posts/ALBnbwBWablj0m2NKS
<2022-07-08T05:02:59.000Z> drawthentic: yes theyre always cozy