<2022-03-13T00:18:04.000Z> Xenophon1488: Hey i have a question. are you on the christogenea forums? I just tried to make an account and it gave me some error message about a captcha and won't let me make an account and I'm not sure what to do
<2022-03-13T00:32:54.000Z> Xenophon1488: i tried it on my phone and the captcha worked. all good, sorry for bothering. 
<2022-03-13T14:37:08.000Z> Heidi_10134@nicecrew.digital: All good. I had issues getting the confirmation email from them for the longest and had to email them to get it. I’m new their and still trying to figure it out. A lot of the threads are older so it’s weird being the new person cutting in but they want you to comment like 12 times before your trusted. 
<2022-03-14T00:32:59.000Z> Xenophon1488: did you sign up for the chat thing? I just tried and it said i can't log in, haha
<2022-03-14T00:38:26.000Z> Heidi_10134@nicecrew.digital: Yes I did. It did that to me at first but worked after I went back to it. 
<2022-03-14T00:39:28.000Z> Xenophon1488: okay. maybe somebody just needs to verify it. I'll wait.
<2022-03-14T00:51:57.000Z> Heidi_10134@nicecrew.digital: Hey I have a question I was wondering if you could help with. Do you know what the explanation is to how the kenites/repham could have ended up dead center in the middle of Noah’s families lands after a local flood? 
<2022-03-14T00:53:46.000Z> Xenophon1488: that's a long question. I can answer some of it, or at least try to
<2022-03-14T00:56:05.000Z> Xenophon1488: So it would start here in Gen 6:4 The Nephilim[e] were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them
<2022-03-14T00:56:40.000Z> Xenophon1488: the "and afterwards" is telling you that they were not destroyed in the flood, unless you believe they were on the Ark, assuming the flood was global
<2022-03-14T00:57:35.000Z> Xenophon1488: since we know the Repham (I believe) claim to have the blood of the nephilim in them, if the nephilim were not on the ark and the flood was global, this couldn't be possible, right?
<2022-03-14T00:57:55.000Z> Xenophon1488: So given those two choices, it pretty much invalidates a global flood immediately.
<2022-03-14T00:58:24.000Z> Xenophon1488: there is a lot more proof that can go into the localized flood theory, but that is a sufficient claim imo.
<2022-03-14T01:01:14.000Z> Xenophon1488: there's quite a bit of logic than can just immediately end a global flood argument. Most churches think the flood happened around 2400 BC I think? The Seputagint puts it farther back, like before 3300BC I believe. I could be off but it's close enough. Anyway, There is no explanation for how any life forms made it around the entirety of the world, off of Noahs ark. How did Bison make it to NA for example? Just silly
<2022-03-14T01:03:00.000Z> Xenophon1488: We also know that there are humanoids in the Bible who are not "Man", but are called Behemah. This is a decent link that shows you some of the proofs for that. There are others not in here I believe, but it covers enough of them
<2022-03-14T01:03:01.000Z> Xenophon1488: fathersmanifesto.net/behemah.htm
<2022-03-14T01:03:53.000Z> Xenophon1488: basically there is an upright walking creature with hands, feet, the ability to talk, who wears clothes, does work and receives pay for it, and does evil. 
<2022-03-14T01:05:06.000Z> Xenophon1488: So looking at genesis, the logical argument would be, Whatever color Noah looks like, we all cna't be from Noah. There was some other race of "angel" or whatever you'd like to call them. Personally,  Ibelieve the jew, the "fallen angel" are the neanderthal, or at least I think it's a possible explanation, if not the correct one
<2022-03-14T01:07:37.000Z> Xenophon1488: anyway, so there was Adam and Eve, there was the "serpent" (the jew in it's original form). They mixed blood. This caused "death"." Noah was saved because of his purity and reverence for God. But there is also at least one other humanoid "behemah" who exists. When Cain left the Garden, he didn't take a sister with him. This is a nonsense bullshit take, that is completely antithetical to human nature. Imagine going off with your brother who just murdered your ohter brother...
<2022-03-14T01:08:42.000Z> Xenophon1488: anyway, so Cain went off, he found a wife, he started a family, it grew, he made a city. He did this with non-Adamic people. Meanwhile Adams offspring also decescned into a similar form of sin and were punished for it, all of the Adamic people except Noah and his children were killed, but that doesn't mean others were killed.
<2022-03-14T01:09:48.000Z> Xenophon1488: Here is a YLT translation.
<2022-03-14T01:09:49.000Z> Xenophon1488: 22 all in whose nostrils [is] breath of a living spirit -- of all that [is] in the dry land -- have died.23 And wiped away is all the substance that is on the face of the ground, from man unto beast, unto creeping thing, and unto fowl of the heavens; yea, they are wiped away from the earth, and only Noah is left, and those who [are] with him in the ark;
<2022-03-14T01:10:08.000Z> Xenophon1488: Is it possible that only Adamic people have the breath of a living spirit? Or at least "had" it?
<2022-03-14T01:11:23.000Z> Heidi_10134@nicecrew.digital: so why would Noah’s children/grandchildren let those people of another race after God just destroyed the other for mingling with, let them in dead center on the east of Canaan and let them stay so the seed gets mingled again? 
<2022-03-14T01:12:18.000Z> Xenophon1488: tl;dr, the punishment of the flood was for Adamic man, not necessarily for anyone else. Gods goal was to kill all Adamic blood except Noahs. This has to be, otherwise again, the Repham couldn't claim Nephalim, etc etc. It's also possible that the "beasts" were on the boat, so he might have brought niggers on, assuming that's what it is defining.
<2022-03-14T01:12:44.000Z> Xenophon1488: I'm not sure I understand your question
<2022-03-14T01:13:22.000Z> Xenophon1488: Why did Noahs children not just murder everyone they ever came across who wasn't like them?
<2022-03-14T01:20:45.000Z> Heidi_10134@nicecrew.digital: It’s more a geography thing. Ham goes to Egypt Ethiopia, Japheth goes to Russia Europe, Shem stays in the Middle East. It’s a huge amount of land so how did the Rephaim get to Canaan again after the local flood, passing all the lands of ham or Japheth to set up camp in Canaan? 
<2022-03-14T01:21:46.000Z> Heidi_10134@nicecrew.digital: Idk if there is a good answer 
<2022-03-14T01:27:50.000Z> Xenophon1488: So I believe based on where the Garden is, and how they exited to the East, and that Noahs ship settled in the mountains of Ararat, we should assume he resided somewhere around modern Iran and Armenia. The flood was over there. What lived in Canaan is beyond our knowledge. Again, Cain wandered. there are thousands of years between Cain leaving and the flood. Who is to say what happened. There is a LOT the Bible doesn't tell us, and people want to pretend they know it.
<2022-03-14T01:34:58.000Z> Heidi_10134@nicecrew.digital: Ok thanks. I was trying to answer questions someone was asking me 👍
<2022-03-14T01:36:45.000Z> Xenophon1488: Sure. Hope it was helpful. Finck has a lot of info about it. I think there is still a level of speculation that isn't necessarily required. For example, some faggots like Godcast and others think that CI hinges on dual seedline. It doesn't at all. CI at it's core, imo, is just an understanding that the Israelites exist today, and who they are.
<2022-03-14T01:37:25.000Z> Xenophon1488: Even if they were right about their supersession, and the church being Israel, God still told us that the Israelites will always be here, and these faggots so easily give that status to jews. It's pathetic and super cucked once you realize the lie
<2022-03-14T01:38:02.000Z> Xenophon1488: But the nephilim is also real, and if you've read Enoch (it's right in the beginning, would take you 10 min) he talks a lot about the race mixing to create the nephilim
<2022-03-14T01:39:06.000Z> Xenophon1488: I've come to the conclusion I think Finck has, which is I now mostly reject all the supernatural. God acts through us. He destroyed the Temple and Jerusalem by sending Rome to do it for him. He will destroy the jews, but he probably won't come down from the sky and shoot fireballs at them. We will drop bombs in their heads.
<2022-03-14T01:40:10.000Z> Xenophon1488: I no longer think Satan is a demon living in hell. He is just the Adversary. He is the collective enemy of God, the edomite jew. He was a race of humanoid cast aside by God, and we were told to stay away from them and to be our own, and "Eve" or someone, didn't listen
<2022-03-14T01:41:38.000Z> Xenophon1488: I doubt we look like what Adam looked like, maybe not , I dunno. I've seen articles claim Cro-magnon would fit in Europe seemlessly today. But the jew was probably the Neanderthal, or something approximating it, and it no longer exists because it has been bred into all men. I think the only people who DONT have it are sub-saharan blacks, but all Whites have a small fraction. If I'm right, does that mean we are all doomed? No, I don't think that
<2022-03-14T01:42:36.000Z> Xenophon1488: Also Canaan's sin was incest. Does this mean Canaanites looked different? No, I don't think they did. They might have looked somewhat different because of mixing with who was there, but even the Edomites looked like Israelites in Jesus's day. Jews look a lot different now from all the race mixing sense
<2022-03-14T01:43:23.000Z> Xenophon1488: so It's hard to say "yea, this is exactly who fucked who, and who is bad, and why" because we just don't know most of that stuff and never will. But we DO know that God hates Esau, and that all of Edom will be destroyed, and I don't think that has happened.
<2022-03-14T01:44:22.000Z> Xenophon1488: And we should also believe that Jesus wasn't being hyperbolic when he called them the children of Satan. I don't think accusing them of something not true would fit into him living a perfect life
<2022-03-14T01:48:49.000Z> Heidi_10134@nicecrew.digital: Yes I agree. Its hard to accept not knowing all the answers for some people. 
<2022-03-14T01:52:16.000Z> Xenophon1488: This is a comm9n tactic in anything that 8s either "fringe" and/or controversial. Oppoents expect an answer to everything and they push all onus onto you. I say "Paul literally said the Dorians were with Moses in 1 Cor 10" and they say "No!!! You dont understand symbolism!!"
<2022-03-14T01:53:00.000Z> Xenophon1488: I made the argument thats pinnee on gab to superlutheran the 9ther night. Rev 22 literally rells us what the tree of life is, and what the fruits on it are.
<2022-03-14T01:53:34.000Z> Xenophon1488: I then compares that to gen 2 and he said genesis was literal and rev was symbolism. No explanatipn except his authority
<2022-03-14T01:53:44.000Z> Xenophon1488: These people are ducking retarded.
<2022-03-14T01:54:33.000Z> Xenophon1488: Thats why Bill goes into so much detail i think. He doesnt want something he cant explain, which is good, but the problem is nobody can explain all the Bible, not eve catholics.