<2023-01-15T21:38:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You believe in God, right?
<2023-01-16T00:20:57.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: Yea, I'm Catholic
<2023-01-16T00:21:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What’s your take on Vatican II?
<2023-01-16T00:22:15.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: Only thing good from it was that Prots can get into heaven, the rest was trash.
<2023-01-16T00:22:48.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: How is that a good thing or do you just mean that you like the concept of more people going to heaven or what exactly?
<2023-01-16T00:23:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you think that prots go to heaven or do you just like the idea of them being able to go to heaven?
<2023-01-16T00:23:53.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: I believe they can get into heaven. 
<2023-01-16T00:24:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: While still being unrepentant protestants?
<2023-01-16T00:24:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Doesn’t that defeat the whole purpose of being Catholic?
<2023-01-16T00:25:37.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: I'm Catholic for two reasons:1. I'm Italian2. I accept Catholic docrine
<2023-01-16T00:26:13.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: OK, but if Protestants can go to heaven then what exactly is the point in being a Catholic? Catholicism is a lot more morally demanding than Protestantism.
<2023-01-16T00:27:45.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: I believe the truth is more important than convenience. Is it not easier to be anti-white today? 
<2023-01-16T00:29:42.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There’s a lot of people say that we’re not many people who are actually serious about it.
<2023-01-16T00:30:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Have you read the pre-Vatican II catechism?
<2023-01-16T00:30:18.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: I have not.
<2023-01-16T00:30:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you want to?
<2023-01-16T00:32:40.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: I followed you because I'm curious about sede vacantism
<2023-01-16T00:32:40.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And I’m guessing that you probably haven’t seen the 1917 Code of Canon Law as well?
<2023-01-16T00:33:03.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: correct
<2023-01-16T00:33:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Alright, I can teach you all about it. Theology is one of my favorite subjects.
<2023-01-16T00:36:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Here’s a copy of the pre-Vatican II catechism: https://cmri.org/baltimore-catechism-no-2/
<2023-01-16T00:37:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you think that Francis is a heretic?
<2023-01-16T00:40:12.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: At first I thought he was walking the line of Pope and anti-Pope, but I’m convinced he is anti-pope now.
<2023-01-16T00:40:36.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What convinced you of that?
<2023-01-16T00:46:10.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: I forget what exactly it was, probably something about LGBT
<2023-01-16T00:47:39.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you know what protestants believe?
<2023-01-16T00:48:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Like do you know how Protestantism and Catholicism differ?
<2023-01-16T00:53:32.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: Yes, I’m well aware.
<2023-01-16T00:55:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ok. Read points 166 - 168.
<2023-01-16T00:55:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://cmri.org/baltimore-catechism-no-2/baltimore-catechism-no-2-lessons-11-20/
<2023-01-16T00:55:52.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: They’re really short. Like literally sentence long.
<2023-01-16T00:56:34.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: 1 sentence long per point, that is. I wanna see what you have to say about ‘em.
<2023-01-16T01:34:04.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: I’ll read it tomorrow, I have a Cold and need sleep.
<2023-01-16T04:11:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Ok.
<2023-01-16T15:57:05.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: I agree that the Catholic Church was what Christ founded, however to apply all of Christ’s Church’s attributes to solely the Catholic Church is to say that there cannot be anti-Popes. For how could hell never prevail against the church and yet control the Holy See? I see the Catholic Church as being Peter with Protestantism and Orthodox being the other Apostles. While one may stumble the whole will not.
<2023-01-16T16:10:44.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Holy See can't be controled by an antipope.
<2023-01-16T16:10:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: But an antipope will still claim to be pope nonetheless.
<2023-01-16T16:13:12.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: What you described there is the "gates of Hell" argument.
<2023-01-16T16:14:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I have 2 refutations of it; one as an article, one as a video. Take your pick:https://novusordowatch.org/2015/12/have-gates-of-hell-prevailed/https://youttube.com/watch?v=2lk7iqIjHIo
<2023-01-16T16:14:30.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Viewing both is also an option if you'd like.
<2023-01-16T20:32:08.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: Here’s the thing; I a very defacto kind of guy. The law isn’t what paper in a legislature says, it’s what the cops do. I’m sure it a very convincing argument for what makes a Pope a Pope, but what matters is who is at the top of the Catholic hierarchy and what is he doing. If he is doing wicked things, then you can’t say the Catholic Church is invincible. 
<2023-01-16T23:26:15.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That dude isn't at the top of the Catholic hierarchy. He's just in the Vatican.
<2023-01-16T23:27:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Churches in Turkey got taken over and turned into mosques. Just because they were originally churches doesn't mean that they're still churches. Nobody denies that they are now mosques.
<2023-01-16T23:28:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: So why do people deny that the guy claiming to be a pope isn't a pope? He's clearly not Catholic.
<2023-01-17T00:37:11.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: Because a usurper is still a king, for as long as the nobles listen to him. And Francis is Pope, as long as the bishops and priests listen to him. To be clear I would not be against a Catholic Coup of sorts to replace him with Sarah. But the fact remains; He who wields power in a Kingdom is a King, He who wields power in a democracy is President, and he who wields power in the Vatican is the Pope. No matter how Godless.
<2023-01-17T02:14:32.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Francis has no power in the Catholic Church.
<2023-01-17T02:14:46.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He only has power in the Vatican II church.
<2023-01-17T02:30:42.000Z> Victor_Emmanuel: How big is Vat II vs Sede Vacantist churches
<2023-01-17T02:33:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Vatican II sect is bigger but doctrine is not a matter of popularity contests so it makes no difference.