<2021-09-06T16:15:32.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: Hey
<2021-09-06T16:15:53.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: what do you have on deaths "with covid" vs deaths "of covid"?
<2021-09-06T16:16:12.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: at the moment all I have is:
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<2021-09-06T16:16:29.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club attached file https://static.banky.club/shitposter.club/3336fe69a96d8ae9339ae73bb30b5de0f5201e08c10e3dc036f634e8e3e51fe2.png?name=1621359072879.png
<2021-09-06T16:16:37.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: and I am looking for more
<2021-09-06T17:36:49.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: Off the top of my head while i’m phone posting - 
<2021-09-06T17:37:23.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: CA hospitals reduced covid deaths in several counties by as much as 25% 
<2021-09-06T17:38:05.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: Deaths are generally in geriatric people with 4-6 Comorbities 
<2021-09-06T17:39:54.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: They are allowed to tag people who died as suspected deaths of covid and add suspected cases of covid to the daily new cases. 
<2021-09-06T19:46:13.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: are there any good websites which have lots of info with sources on this matter?
<2021-09-06T19:47:44.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: I'm aware of https://ivmmeta.com/ for ivermectin, but I need something for "of covid" vs "with covid"
<2021-09-06T20:15:03.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: I also want a site which collates data and links showing that the vaccine doesn't slow transmission
<2021-09-06T20:16:01.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: I'm aware of http://market-ticker.org/ who does a fair job generally speaking, but nonetheless he's nowhere near clean and concise enough for my tastes
<2021-09-19T19:26:53.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-94-percent-covid-among-caus/fact-check-94-of-individuals-with-additional-causes-of-death-still-had-covid-19-idUSKBN25U2IO
<2021-09-19T19:27:18.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: this fact check admits that only 6% of people who died with covid had no comorbidities listed, even though it says it's "false"
<2021-09-19T19:27:26.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: VERDICTFalse. The 6% figure represents death certificates with COVID-19 listed as the only cause of death, but the remaining death certificates listed additional conditions, either COVID-19 complications or pre-existing illnesses, along with COVID-19.
<2021-09-19T19:28:02.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/
<2021-09-19T19:28:43.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: stories like this cover the fact that the majority of the people who are "hospitalized with covid" are coming in for something else and are then tested with the faulty PCR tests and lumped into the dataset, so this also gives you an idea of how these numbers are massaged
<2021-09-19T21:15:43.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: oh nice, ty!
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<2021-09-19T21:34:56.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: ty i'll post that or boost yours lemme see if you posted it
<2021-09-19T22:07:34.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: go ahead and post it - you have more reach :)
<2021-09-29T11:00:20.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: Hey, do you have a source on "governments doing fewer covid tests on the vaccinated, leading to lower statistics vs unvaccinated" ?
<2021-09-29T13:37:02.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
<2021-09-29T13:37:04.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: Fully vaccinated people can:    Participate in many of the activities that they did before the pandemic; for some of these activities, they may choose to wear a mask.    Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel and from self-quarantine after travel.    Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States.    Refrain from routine screening testing if feasible.
<2021-09-29T13:37:48.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: refrain from testing at specific injunctions means less testing overall, I would have to dig some more to see if I can find the differences in how they test the two groups
<2021-09-29T13:38:13.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: but also recall that they will not qualify someone as fully vaccinated until 2 weeks after their second shot
<2021-09-29T13:42:54.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: ahh ty
<2021-09-30T13:36:56.000Z> billiam@shitposter.club: ahh, this was what I was thinking of (top article) https://static.banky.club/shitposter.club/dc2dc3750d9f673ddc5acf6decc73fad605f0ce79545e17a6d932c37998e16f2.jpeg?name=5954e5d79c6ebfa2.jpeg
<2021-09-30T14:13:30.000Z> VaxxersPostingTheirLs: ah yeah, I forgot about that as well