<2022-09-06T02:00:56.000Z> V_V: fake haru. the REAL haru wouldnt use that winter variant of the sprite in SEPTEMBER 
<2022-09-06T02:01:44.000Z> Haru: Actually the winter variant of the sprite is the one with the gray jacket
<2022-09-06T02:01:52.000Z> Haru: Tracksuit is fall
<2022-09-06T02:02:09.000Z> V_V: What day does fall officially start, sir? 
<2022-09-06T02:02:18.000Z> Haru: Honestly I have no idea
<2022-09-06T02:02:30.000Z> V_V: Alright, this might actually be him
<2022-09-06T02:02:31.000Z> Haru: I don't think Haru is ever in the party in September
<2022-09-06T02:02:41.000Z> Haru: I mean I noted it's me in my KF profile
<2022-09-06T02:03:00.000Z> V_V: I haven't been paying close attention to the site in a minute
<2022-09-06T02:03:10.000Z> V_V: Glad to see you made it over ! 
<2022-09-06T02:03:12.000Z> Haru: Understandable given what's been happening
<2022-09-06T02:03:13.000Z> Haru: Thanks
<2022-09-06T02:03:45.000Z> V_V: I thought this was another Christorian X on Metokur Forums situation or something 
<2022-09-06T02:05:02.000Z> Haru: Very much understandable.  I've never used alternative platforms historically but given that the site might actually get smothered in the crib I have no choice but to branch out
<2022-09-06T02:05:15.000Z> Haru: You're not the only person to test me on this
<2022-09-06T02:06:36.000Z> V_V: Yeah, it has been and will be a rough transition for some. Empresa has already been banned and has had alts banned over the past few hours, lol
<2022-09-06T02:07:03.000Z> Haru: From poast?
<2022-09-06T02:07:07.000Z> Haru: Or from the forum?
<2022-09-06T02:07:10.000Z> V_V: Poast
<2022-09-06T02:07:15.000Z> Haru: LOL
<2022-09-06T02:07:18.000Z> Haru: Typical
<2022-09-06T02:07:20.000Z> V_V: Gimme a sec 
<2022-09-06T02:08:02.000Z> V_V: poa.st/@graf/posts/ANGfmz1RuH0c0L7Bwm
<2022-09-06T02:08:27.000Z> V_V: I'm pretty sure this post was made in reference to him because his original account vanished right around the time it was posted 
<2022-09-06T02:08:45.000Z> Haru: Based
<2022-09-06T02:09:13.000Z> Haru: I wish he'd just control himself better, he's done some good stuff in the past but just...goes over the top sometimes
<2022-09-06T02:09:45.000Z> V_V: Bro, have you seen his activity on Onion Farms? Self control is a thing of the past for our old friend, Bryan Nunez 
<2022-09-06T02:10:06.000Z> V_V: He has a dozen threads that he posts in alone, all day, every day
<2022-09-06T02:10:10.000Z> Haru: I don't really read Onion Farms as much as the prior splinter
<2022-09-06T02:10:22.000Z> V_V: A dozen threads devoted to women shaking their asses on various streams
<2022-09-06T02:10:25.000Z> Haru: But I do notice him post about me regularly even now which is kind of strange
<2022-09-06T02:10:49.000Z> Haru: I only read the Kiwi Farms subforum on there so I haven't seen that stuff
<2022-09-06T02:11:44.000Z> V_V: Yeah, OF is a pretty bad lot 
<2022-09-06T02:12:08.000Z> V_V: It's just Empresa and that Neko GF guy who cries about everything Josh does
<2022-09-06T02:12:25.000Z> Haru: Kengle's organizational skills are also astonishingly poor
<2022-09-06T02:12:31.000Z> Haru: Like why do 90% of those subforums even exist?
<2022-09-06T02:12:56.000Z> V_V: nothing says welcoming design like 500 subforums 
<2022-09-06T02:12:58.000Z> Haru: I remember I checked it once like a year or two ago and he had empty subforums for, like, lolcows from Africa and such? Insane
<2022-09-06T02:14:13.000Z> V_V: It is sort of funny that Kengle's years of trying to piggyback of KF's popularity was one-upped by an actual child 
<2022-09-06T02:14:54.000Z> V_V: I think that CJocker is like 17 currently 
<2022-09-06T02:15:08.000Z> Haru: I know he was underage at the time, I'm not sure about now
<2022-09-06T02:15:20.000Z> Haru: The only time I talked to him was when we spoke on KF about trying to find Gator's sock on the splinter
<2022-09-06T02:15:52.000Z> Haru: Do you know what happened to SIG after his uber-fedpost?
<2022-09-06T02:16:03.000Z> V_V: Which uber-fedpost?
<2022-09-06T02:16:12.000Z> V_V: I only know of the one from late 2020 
<2022-09-06T02:16:12.000Z> Haru: I don't even want to type it out
<2022-09-06T02:16:28.000Z> Haru: He pinned an extremely specific thread against the President to the top of the site
<2022-09-06T02:16:32.000Z> Haru: Threat
<2022-09-06T02:16:39.000Z> V_V: I see 
<2022-09-06T02:16:46.000Z> Haru: Then the site went down for good a few days later
<2022-09-06T02:16:50.000Z> V_V: lol
<2022-09-06T02:17:08.000Z> V_V: Yeah, I've never had an exchange with Sig, to be perfectly honest 
<2022-09-06T02:17:19.000Z> Haru: I never interacted with him at all
<2022-09-06T02:17:38.000Z> V_V: That retard SevenAteNine was asking me about him last night also 
<2022-09-06T02:17:47.000Z> V_V: As to his whereabouts or whatever 
<2022-09-06T02:17:56.000Z> Haru: The only  threads I read actively outside of the Gunt stuff are the speedrunner autists like Cosmo and Chibi
<2022-09-06T02:18:10.000Z> Haru: I like 789 but she has a tendency to buy unnecessary trouble for herself
<2022-09-06T02:18:22.000Z> Haru: She also HATES you for some reason
<2022-09-06T02:18:44.000Z> V_V: She hates me because she is hopelessly deep in delusion 
<2022-09-06T02:18:49.000Z> V_V: And also she lies through her teeth
<2022-09-06T02:19:18.000Z> V_V: She'll swear up and down that she doesn't have interaction with Empresa or a host of others on Discord, when she's in probably a half dozen servers with prominent banned users 
<2022-09-06T02:19:28.000Z> V_V: And has been since the beginning of the year 
<2022-09-06T02:19:38.000Z> Haru: Yeah I mean clearly she's neck deep in the Discord shit
<2022-09-06T02:20:03.000Z> Haru: Whenever that stuff comes up she's always totally up to date on all of it
<2022-09-06T02:20:22.000Z> Haru: I don't think she's ill-intentioned though, just being lead around by people that are
<2022-09-06T02:20:26.000Z> V_V: Well it isn't just that she's speaking with them. She was more or less used as their attack dog because her account was old enough to report content against people they disliked 
<2022-09-06T02:20:38.000Z> Haru: Hmm
<2022-09-06T02:21:09.000Z> V_V: Z0mb0's accoun had the same function before he was banned
<2022-09-06T02:21:23.000Z> Haru: Well I'd like to think that in light of what's happened over the last few days most people will calm down and stop being retards at least temporarily, but that's probably naive and optimistic
<2022-09-06T02:21:32.000Z> Haru: Yeah I could see him getting up to weird stuff, especially in the Elaine thread
<2022-09-06T02:21:57.000Z> V_V: He's another one of the users that liked to DM women pictures of himself 
<2022-09-06T02:22:15.000Z> V_V: Cuckson Gin, Z0mb0, Cow Poly, and Empresa were/are all like this 
<2022-09-06T02:22:52.000Z> Haru: Cow Poly, at least, seems like he's trying to play nice now
<2022-09-06T02:22:55.000Z> Haru: But who knows
<2022-09-06T02:23:22.000Z> V_V: That's probably because a few people have enough material to properly dox him 
<2022-09-06T02:23:42.000Z> Haru: Him posting those pictures of his laptop in the Chris X thread was pretty strange
<2022-09-06T02:23:46.000Z> V_V: lol
<2022-09-06T02:23:47.000Z> V_V: he didnt
<2022-09-06T02:23:50.000Z> V_V: that was me 
<2022-09-06T02:23:54.000Z> Haru: Hah
<2022-09-06T02:24:03.000Z> Haru: Why did he even post those to begin with, though, for you to have them?
<2022-09-06T02:24:20.000Z> V_V: I think he posted them at a time when I wasn't around 
<2022-09-06T02:24:29.000Z> V_V: They weren't for my eyes, if that's what you're asking
<2022-09-06T02:25:10.000Z> Haru: I still want to know the story behind Empresa's raccoon 
<2022-09-06T02:25:35.000Z> V_V: I'm not sure if there really is one
<2022-09-06T02:26:09.000Z> V_V: Empresa likes to collect animal skulls and the raccoon was to be another specimen I guess
<2022-09-06T02:26:26.000Z> Haru: "I'll just take a picture of this dead animal and post it to my e-friends instead of, like, doing anything about the rotting corpse"
<2022-09-06T02:26:39.000Z> Haru: That's...interesting
<2022-09-06T02:26:56.000Z> V_V: He used to bond with some Discord girl over the animal skulls actually
<2022-09-06T02:27:16.000Z> Haru: Stage 4 Discord syndrome
<2022-09-06T02:27:48.000Z> V_V: He spent months trying to woo her and she's living with another site user now 
<2022-09-06T02:27:54.000Z> V_V: It's kind of funny 
<2022-09-06T02:28:28.000Z> V_V: She was the person he sent those pictures taken on his porch to 
<2022-09-06T02:28:38.000Z> Haru: It's still bizarre to me that there's this whole, like, outer society that emerged from the Gunt subforum
<2022-09-06T02:29:50.000Z> V_V: It's literally Gunt esotericism, the way it develops in the shadows, and then gets fed back to the main site in a very intentioned but opaque way
<2022-09-06T02:30:34.000Z> V_V: And most of the people involved are too into it to be reliable narrators for whats actually occuring most of the time 
<2022-09-06T02:31:01.000Z> Haru: I've only pieced together parts of it based on what I've seen and it seems very strange and like something to be avoided, frankly
<2022-09-06T02:32:16.000Z> V_V: The reality of it is this. I've been using Discord for five or six years and have never caused any big problems for myself in that time. All of the people from this sphere who fuck their lives up on that app are begging for it. 
<2022-09-06T02:33:01.000Z> V_V: Like, if it wasn't Empresa doxing himself on Discord now, he'd probably dox himself somewhere else a year later because he's dumb. 
<2022-09-06T02:33:03.000Z> Haru: It happens to so many people too.  The bizarre fascination with Elaine Miller seems to be a good indicator for it
<2022-09-06T02:33:45.000Z> V_V: The Elaine thing is weird but it also isn't because most of it is people competing for her kike cunny 
<2022-09-06T02:34:16.000Z> Haru: Imagine wanting Anuscabbage's sloppy seconds
<2022-09-06T02:34:33.000Z> V_V: I won't!
<2022-09-06T02:36:26.000Z> V_V: What did you think of Empresa's dox btw?
<2022-09-06T02:36:48.000Z> Haru: I don't think I saw the full post, but seeing his living conditions is pretty dire
<2022-09-06T02:37:13.000Z> Haru: I honestly kinda feel bad for the guy and understand why he lives his life online
<2022-09-06T02:37:36.000Z> V_V: Do you struggle with meth use also? 
<2022-09-06T02:37:50.000Z> Haru: Fortunately not
<2022-09-06T02:41:16.000Z> V_V: Yeah, idk. This site seems fine but I wish it had some kind of centralised chat function
<2022-09-06T02:41:30.000Z> V_V: I'm not sure if you can even do group PMs on it 
<2022-09-06T02:50:18.000Z> Haru: Yeah I agree.  It really needs a group chat feature.  I think graf is a developer so he might be able to add that function
<2022-09-06T02:50:34.000Z> Haru: At least the Kiwi Farms chat still works on TOR but you're presumably out of socks
<2022-09-06T02:51:04.000Z> V_V: I am out of socks, but I thought somebody said that all of the chats except AT and BP got deleted 
<2022-09-06T02:52:15.000Z> Haru: Gunt chat is definitely not deleted, there are just occasional outages
<2022-09-06T02:54:46.000Z> V_V: I've been using KF for the chat alone for almost a year so not having an analogous feature here is pretty disappointing 
<2022-09-06T02:55:38.000Z> V_V: I tried appealing to get my old account back for a third time a few days ago but more important things got in the way of that lol 
<2022-09-06T02:55:44.000Z> Haru: Yeah.  Many  feel the same way and hopefully graf will find a way to adapt.  I know he's also supposedly working on his own DDOS-mitigation strategy and that he's previously collaborated with Josh as a paid contractor of some sort
<2022-09-06T02:56:02.000Z> Haru: I think if the site does come back up on clearnet Josh will be feeling generous enough to approve it but who knows
<2022-09-06T02:56:29.000Z> V_V: Maybe but I'm guessing this is the end 
<2022-09-06T02:57:37.000Z> V_V: I think that Josh has said in the past that he isn't interested in running the site if it can only be accessed through TOR, and I doubt he'd be into jumping from host to host like the Stormer does
<2022-09-06T02:57:37.000Z> Haru: I actively choose to reject doomerism, but we'll see
<2022-09-06T02:58:13.000Z> Haru: That's true, but in chat he mentioned having one last strategem that he's going to try in a few weeks after waiting on TOR to see how things shake out
<2022-09-06T02:58:38.000Z> V_V: Best of luck I guess 
<2022-09-06T02:58:45.000Z> Haru: Yeah
<2022-09-06T02:59:25.000Z> V_V: If the site exists after that, I'm guessing that the culture will be really bent around policing content that, for lack of a better word, seems "fedposty", moreso than is the case currently 
<2022-09-06T02:59:44.000Z> V_V: It won't be the same experience if Kiwi Farms continues is my point 
<2022-09-06T03:00:16.000Z> Haru: I don't disagree, although I never participated in that type of content so from my own personal perspective I'm not all that bothered
<2022-09-06T03:00:54.000Z> V_V: Right, but you also weren't involved in running the site, moderating content, or having to keep the peace like Josh is obligated to 
<2022-09-06T03:01:08.000Z> V_V: I just don't think he'd be happy with that direction 
<2022-09-06T03:01:24.000Z> V_V: ofc theres no way to be sure!
<2022-09-06T03:01:38.000Z> Haru: Yeah that's true as well
<2022-09-06T03:01:52.000Z> Haru: I'm just going to remain hopeful until there's strong evidence to the contrary
<2022-09-06T03:02:31.000Z> V_V: I guess that's a good attitude to have
<2022-09-06T03:02:35.000Z> V_V: Nice speaking with you!
<2022-09-06T03:02:49.000Z> Haru: You as well