<2023-02-08T08:01:36.000Z> VBurner: it has come to my attention that there is a chudbuds minecraft server
<2023-02-08T08:01:41.000Z> VBurner: could I get a whitelist?
<2023-02-08T08:02:10.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I can't do it but i will tell claire for you buddy
<2023-02-08T08:02:15.000Z> VBurner: thanks man!
<2023-02-08T08:02:46.000Z> VBurner: IGN is BallsCashMoney (I don't remember why I named myself that either)
<2023-02-08T08:03:26.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: My pleasure i submitted the request if you don't hear back ask sui tomorrow he actually plays in it so he'd know better when claires there
<2023-02-08T08:05:16.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Got your ign sent too buddy 💖
<2023-02-08T08:05:25.000Z> VBurner: thanks so much, I really appreciate it 
<2023-02-08T08:05:47.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Anything for you burner you're a good dude
<2023-02-08T08:06:02.000Z> VBurner: you too
<2023-02-08T08:06:13.000Z> VBurner: not sure what I can help with but if you need help with something feel free to ask lol
<2023-02-08T08:06:39.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I definitely will man glad youve been around more lately
<2023-02-08T08:07:20.000Z> VBurner: yeah, I've started working less and so I've actually been feeling social
<2023-02-08T08:07:30.000Z> VBurner: it's good 
<2023-02-08T08:08:15.000Z> VBurner: I'll actually be able to dedicate more time to my art and music, which is great 
<2023-02-08T08:08:38.000Z> VBurner: as my current schedule just meant I'd make some sketches and start some projects but never finish anything lol
<2023-02-08T08:08:40.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I get it man all i do is sleep and work its just my work is sitting in a car smoking and watch tv or reading lol
<2023-02-08T08:08:58.000Z> VBurner: what's your job? 
<2023-02-08T08:09:16.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Well hell yeah man if you feel comfy share some art sometime 
<2023-02-08T08:09:26.000Z> VBurner: I'll do it right now actually
<2023-02-08T08:09:27.000Z> VBurner: one second
<2023-02-08T08:09:40.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I watch large equipment for a power company its very boring
<2023-02-08T08:09:50.000Z> VBurner attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/2d8228144f7d3fa39cf3bdee76ba1895543ff68bd9f9475ef1c0b43f65bde0d2.png
<2023-02-08T08:09:54.000Z> VBurner: that does sound boring
<2023-02-08T08:10:01.000Z> VBurner attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/0bb021ad515761617949ed3032975c68ac14fca6e970d7ddb8a067e017f6d8b6.png
<2023-02-08T08:10:08.000Z> VBurner attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/6c669d6ab5f9dfbbbed994a9c7472ce25ee34c19c7fa788e05f7f6de2006cd6d.png
<2023-02-08T08:10:30.000Z> VBurner attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/f91b748feb54c001a102d31c7f6d3354aa1dea7842d26d75945a07a4dca27dfb.png
<2023-02-08T08:10:44.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Im always jealous of people who can do city scapes. I just can never quite get it there. Looks good brother 
<2023-02-08T08:11:05.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I really Ike the third one
<2023-02-08T08:11:08.000Z> VBurner: in my drawing program's export folder there was also this edit of Ron Paul as the joker which I completely forgot I made https://i.poastcdn.org/c1a95ea07c8ba53995dda5a893efe11a711ab4b953633911e45dcfa68b07f134.png
<2023-02-08T08:11:10.000Z> VBurner: thanks man!
<2023-02-08T08:11:23.000Z> VBurner: third one was for a platformer I was making but scrapped really early on
<2023-02-08T08:12:02.000Z> VBurner: mostly scrapped because I had a 20k word document where I planned it all out and when I read it back it was complete nonsense so I just figured I'd move on to other projects, but then I got busy
<2023-02-08T08:12:30.000Z> VBurner: I want to get better at drawing cityscapes actually, usually I just draw random shapes then add lines striking through them and hope it ends up looking alright
<2023-02-08T08:12:37.000Z> VBurner: do you draw?
<2023-02-08T08:13:07.000Z> VBurner: also, these drawings are all at least 6~ months old because I've been busy :(, I hope to draw more soon though
<2023-02-08T08:13:46.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Used too. Hands are too fucked now. I can't hold a pencil for more than a couple minutes
<2023-02-08T08:13:59.000Z> VBurner: arthritis?
<2023-02-08T08:14:17.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Yeah man looks great sharpen them skills you got the chops
<2023-02-08T08:14:25.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Yes and carputunnel 
<2023-02-08T08:14:31.000Z> VBurner: I hope I don't experience that, I am always typing, playing guitar and drawing, so it would ruin my life lol
<2023-02-08T08:14:39.000Z> VBurner: I really appreciate the support
<2023-02-08T08:15:03.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Hell yeah buddy you definitely have a style
<2023-02-08T08:15:06.000Z> VBurner: I've been looking for an excuse to draw, I'm a bit rusty but if you ever want something drawn send it my way and I'll give it a stab for free
<2023-02-08T08:16:13.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I will keep that in mind. I mean I'm always in the market for a new spike 
<2023-02-08T08:15:37.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Yeah i love wrenching and I'm almost done with that. It sucks
<2023-02-08T08:16:38.000Z> VBurner: I have a bunch of pictures of pencil sketches somewhere now that I think of it
<2023-02-08T08:17:54.000Z> VBurner: found a low quality screenshot of a digital drawing I started a bit ago https://i.poastcdn.org/5524c674e924123133fb48fd864daacc7a1302590817f457f5aae4c6d97665f2.png
<2023-02-08T08:18:24.000Z> VBurner: here we are
<2023-02-08T08:18:30.000Z> VBurner attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/7298cc59d899b76e6521e82ae167cb20a05d1e7ffff73084564c5fdf9b3ed8ba.png
<2023-02-08T08:18:46.000Z> VBurner: makes me want to get drawing again
<2023-02-08T08:18:50.000Z> VBurner: might go for it in the morning
<2023-02-08T08:19:08.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Nice
<2023-02-08T08:19:19.000Z> VBurner attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/ef283a07c67152d5defd2730de451fb847fd1bf78993fb6399469ad0e9b5ff4a.png
<2023-02-08T08:20:20.000Z> VBurner: I hate when I look back at things that I made which are actually good, because that means I have to make things of that caliber 
<2023-02-08T08:20:35.000Z> VBurner: I experience that a lot, especially with music stuff
<2023-02-08T08:20:57.000Z> VBurner: because I have weird flukes from when I was starting out that sound better than stuff I made when I actually had decent knowledge and know how
<2023-02-08T08:22:36.000Z> VBurner: making music is a fun hobby which you can do with bad hands btw, if you're bored you should check out a tracker like SunVox
<2023-02-08T08:23:24.000Z> VBurner: I play instruments but if your hands can't do that trackers/just doing midi stuff is more than viable
<2023-02-08T08:24:41.000Z> VBurner: youtu.be/E54uAhMBA1Ayou can run sunvox on like anything lol
<2023-02-08T08:28:54.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I mean in my findings I'm never happy with stuff i do i think its the your your own worst critic thing. Your shit looks good though man definitely keep at it
<2023-02-08T08:29:18.000Z> VBurner: again, I really appreciate it 
<2023-02-08T08:29:22.000Z> VBurner: what kind of stuff do you do?
<2023-02-08T08:29:55.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I am extremely tone def and have no musical creativity lol otherwise I'd be back on that frooty loops grind
<2023-02-08T08:30:11.000Z> VBurner: ah damn lol
<2023-02-08T08:30:23.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Let me see i might have something ive drawn in here gimme a minute
<2023-02-08T08:30:30.000Z> VBurner: oh sure
<2023-02-08T08:37:03.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol attached file https://chudbuds.lol/media/443817fa-39eb-4be7-9ee6-11d28c91936e/PXL_20230208_083429977.jpg
<2023-02-08T08:37:14.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol attached file https://chudbuds.lol/media/f77b0f83-690a-4149-8d77-8368290c0398/PXL_20230208_083413124.jpg
<2023-02-08T08:37:26.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol attached file https://chudbuds.lol/media/17bcd96d-73c4-4730-805d-4f2c269f542a/PXL_20230208_083351781.jpg
<2023-02-08T08:37:30.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Bout all i can find atm
<2023-02-08T08:37:40.000Z> VBurner: oh hey, these are good
<2023-02-08T08:37:44.000Z> VBurner: what's that third one?
<2023-02-08T08:38:22.000Z> VBurner: I like the shading on the cloth 
<2023-02-08T08:38:23.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: An indian from the back with a coat made of different animals
<2023-02-08T08:38:27.000Z> VBurner: I gotta practice that
<2023-02-08T08:38:29.000Z> VBurner: ah cool
<2023-02-08T08:38:52.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Yeah i was okay. But hands went to shit lol 
<2023-02-08T08:38:56.000Z> VBurner: yeah the shading looks really good
<2023-02-08T08:39:07.000Z> VBurner: I can draw hands at like 2 angles 
<2023-02-08T08:40:26.000Z> VBurner: I can draw a few more than that, but yeah my current approach is just perfecting drawing a couple angles rather than actually understanding hands
<2023-02-08T08:40:55.000Z> VBurner: did you draw those in 2013?
<2023-02-08T08:41:30.000Z> VBurner: just a quick ms paint but recently I've drawn hands like this if a character has his arms extended towards the camera https://i.poastcdn.org/b3a7119af1ac2566e8f8689a950cf80b68dd58b3789970fa9455f8144c14e37e.png
<2023-02-08T08:43:03.000Z> VBurner: slightly more complete https://i.poastcdn.org/d9746cf3669a85a0bb4ce177475adcf7018a46c7f7a9fa1c6c5e0a443af5c872.png
<2023-02-08T08:43:40.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Yeah hands have been shit for a while lol
<2023-02-08T08:44:09.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I could never grasp the digital. Its too much of a disconnect for me i guess
<2023-02-08T08:44:21.000Z> VBurner: I must get an amputee gf who I can draw portraits of, then I will have an excuse to never have to draw hands
<2023-02-08T08:44:43.000Z> VBurner: digital was a pretty easy switch for me
<2023-02-08T08:44:53.000Z> VBurner: I'm using one of the tablets without a screen too
<2023-02-08T08:45:01.000Z> VBurner: I got used to it super quick
<2023-02-08T08:45:47.000Z> VBurner: my hands are kinda shaky a lot of the time so I like having stabilization 
<2023-02-08T08:46:08.000Z> VBurner: but I'm not sure if it would make your hand issues any more palatable 
<2023-02-08T08:46:10.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Hands are hard ive never gotten the hang of them i always use reference
<2023-02-08T08:46:34.000Z> VBurner: I never really reference, that's why things look wonky in a lot of my drawings
<2023-02-08T08:46:46.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Nah even like the giant dr pens make my shit cramp up
<2023-02-08T08:47:08.000Z> VBurner: man that's awful
<2023-02-08T08:47:28.000Z> VBurner: the hoodie here is one of the only times I referenced, and it turned out really well so it makes me want to reference more lmao https://i.poastcdn.org/65e0149e2fae5bf29d62527ca61ec0d70a158f2941eb10a8cd98c4ba0aa77f10.png
<2023-02-08T08:47:31.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Well there's no shame in reference. You should look up how Alex ross does all his drawings everything is referenced
<2023-02-08T08:48:04.000Z> VBurner: no shame in it for sure, it's just very much not a part of workflow 
<2023-02-08T08:48:07.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: He'll literally pose himself take a picture and work off that 
<2023-02-08T08:48:16.000Z> VBurner: lol
<2023-02-08T08:48:20.000Z> VBurner: does he trace his own photos?
<2023-02-08T08:49:07.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Not trace he just does the poses then references them. Everybody would be fat if he traced hes a big boy lol
<2023-02-08T08:49:14.000Z> VBurner: lmfao
<2023-02-08T08:49:43.000Z> VBurner: I always feel uncomfortable looking at myself as well as other people, even when it's photos
<2023-02-08T08:50:48.000Z> VBurner: no idea why that is 
<2023-02-08T08:51:11.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I mean you can always just look up how other people draw shit. Theres literally millions of drawings from the finest artists in the planet to look through. Your gonna interprit it your way anyhow so its not like its stealing 
<2023-02-08T08:51:31.000Z> VBurner: yeah, for sure
<2023-02-08T08:51:38.000Z> VBurner: I think next time I go for something specific I'll reference
<2023-02-08T08:51:57.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I mean i have enough self loathing to not wanna look at pics of myself so i understand the feeling lol
<2023-02-08T08:52:06.000Z> VBurner: lol
<2023-02-08T08:52:15.000Z> VBurner: I actually don't mind my appearance, surprisingly enough
<2023-02-08T08:52:26.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Worth a shot you do it enough it'll get stuck in there
<2023-02-08T08:52:43.000Z> VBurner: the reason why I can't get a gf mostly boils down to being incredibly awkward lmao
<2023-02-08T08:52:44.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: No need to brag burner 😛
<2023-02-08T08:52:49.000Z> VBurner: I simply must
<2023-02-08T08:53:11.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Lol. How old are you roughly?
<2023-02-08T08:53:16.000Z> VBurner: 19
<2023-02-08T08:53:18.000Z> VBurner: you?
<2023-02-08T08:55:12.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Oh im 42. You'll be fine man it'll click for you. The only bit of advice i can give is simply always be yourself. If they can't handle you as you are then its not worth it. You never wanna be in a relationship where they're trying to change you because that's a prison and you'll be miserable. You're young bro you'll get there promise 
<2023-02-08T08:56:59.000Z> VBurner: thanks, I really appreciate it. I really want to get into a situation where I'm able to get to know women, unfortunately I've never really talked to women outside of professional/educational environments, so I'm not quite sure how to talk to them. 
<2023-02-08T08:57:51.000Z> VBurner: any advice on that front?
<2023-02-08T08:58:34.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: You just gotta man up and do it. Simple as. And just talk to them don't fuckin chase them or play games just be cool. Talk be yourself someone is gonna see that and be super into it. 
<2023-02-08T08:58:57.000Z> VBurner: Where would I talk to women?
<2023-02-08T08:59:09.000Z> VBurner: I don't think I have the guts to just approach random ones on the street
<2023-02-08T08:59:36.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Idk what do you do for fun? Anything outwardly social?
<2023-02-08T08:59:56.000Z> VBurner: No, I just make art and music
<2023-02-08T09:00:40.000Z> VBurner: if I ever play music live I think that would open opportunities to talk to people
<2023-02-08T09:01:00.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: You gotta learn to do stuff that makes you uncomfortable. No woman is unobtainable friend you just gotta learn to talk. Sure you'll fail you'll get shot down big fuckin deal if they can't see your value thats on them
<2023-02-08T09:01:27.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Definitely. Join a band or take a class. You gotta be around girls to get them. 
<2023-02-08T09:02:08.000Z> VBurner: now that I think of it, I've never had IRL friends
<2023-02-08T09:02:25.000Z> VBurner: but a band might be a good idea
<2023-02-08T09:02:45.000Z> VBurner: I think for that I'd first want to make some solo stuff, then through that try to find people who would be willing to play it live with me
<2023-02-08T09:02:58.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: You'd be surprised how much a little confidence will get you. You walk up to a chick and just start chatting not trying to get in her pants and leave it there till next time you're intreguing girls don't understand that shit cuz they've been having dick thrown at them sunce they were 12
<2023-02-08T09:03:28.000Z> VBurner: lmfao
<2023-02-08T09:04:01.000Z> VBurner: you're right though, I think if I just talk to them like normal people it would work
<2023-02-08T09:05:06.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Get your guitar and hit an open mic night at like a coffee shop or some shit. Play some music girls like that shit. Just never chase. You be cool you be strong you be the one they come too. Believe me it works I'm a cunt and have consistently fucked out of my league my whole life. 
<2023-02-08T09:05:44.000Z> VBurner: tfw I've never even had a conversation with a girl who I wasn't obligated to talk to lmao
<2023-02-08T09:06:28.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Thats how its done. You talk you don't chase. You let them start flirting. Learn body language notice if there eyes dialate when they see you. Look if they stand guarded or open. Its all subconscious shit no one can control. 
<2023-02-08T09:07:01.000Z> VBurner: due to the whole sperg thing I never make eye contact and have trouble gauging body language
<2023-02-08T09:07:09.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Well again your 19 and that means you were 16 when the world went to shit. You're a little stunted but you'll be fine
<2023-02-08T09:07:44.000Z> VBurner: yeah, I probably missed out on a bit of social stuff there
<2023-02-08T09:07:57.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Again young sperge you gotta force yourself to do things that are not comfortable. You'll be surprised how quickly they will be comfortable 
<2023-02-08T09:08:52.000Z> VBurner: that's how it goes for most environments I think, every time I've had to work with someone new or work at a new place it has been incredibly nerve racking, but after a day or two it feels completely normal 
<2023-02-08T09:08:59.000Z> VBurner: thanks for all your advice btw
<2023-02-08T09:09:18.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: You can't be afraid of no pussy doesn't fall in your lap unless you become a rockstar then forget everything ive said it'll work itself out lol
<2023-02-08T09:09:30.000Z> VBurner: genius
<2023-02-08T09:09:33.000Z> VBurner: I will simply become a rockstar
<2023-02-08T09:10:11.000Z> VBurner: making boring folk songs in the key of C is probably the easiest way actually
<2023-02-08T09:10:13.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Easiest route tbh you won't believe how many vaginas that guitar will get you
<2023-02-08T09:10:15.000Z> VBurner: that shit all sounds the same
<2023-02-08T09:10:28.000Z> VBurner: I think I want companionship more than sex
<2023-02-08T09:11:33.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Then you gotta do the work. Be uncomfortable spread your wings believe me none of its as bad as you think it is. Its all in your head. 
<2023-02-08T09:12:58.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Just never be a fool. Best advice i can give. 
<2023-02-08T09:13:22.000Z> VBurner: actually, I play online yugioh, that's a social hobby if I took it IRL. Question is, do any women actually play yugioh?
<2023-02-08T09:16:17.000Z> VBurner: Alright, I'm gonna head to bed. Thanks for chatting! I really appreciate it.
<2023-02-08T09:23:56.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Anytime buddy and yes theres lil weeb chicks that yugioh
<2023-02-09T20:27:11.000Z> VBurner: any updates on the whitelist?
<2023-02-09T20:36:17.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: I just dmed claire i think shes asleep though. I'll follow up again if i don't hear back. I'll let ya know when i do 💖
<2023-02-09T20:36:28.000Z> VBurner: thanks!
<2023-02-09T20:36:42.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Np
<2023-02-09T20:36:53.000Z> VBurner: reminds me that I should probably use my chudbuds account more
<2023-02-09T20:46:09.000Z> swattysquad@chudbuds.lol: Lol couldn't hurt. I'd chalk it up more to shes busy. She been dealing with a lot lately its hard for me to get her attention for more than a couple minutes. She hasn't said no so that means it slipped her mind entirely lol
<2023-02-09T21:08:18.000Z> VBurner: got it lmao