<2022-12-09T19:32:04.000Z> KyotoSong: Man, people are so fucking retarded here. I mean RT is the most corrupted and lie spreading media ever.
<2022-12-10T15:08:16.000Z> Turkleton: Yes. Agreed. It's weird to see. 
<2022-12-12T05:04:11.000Z> KyotoSong: Look, I'll put it straight away because I don't intend to hide anything - I am 3/4 Slavic (1/2 Ukrainian, 1/4 Russian) and 1/4 Jewish and I live in Israel. My parents repatriated when I was twelve so we moved from Ukraine. I served in IDF air force as helicopter technician. So do whatever you want with that info. I can say I'm proud of all of my ancestry but of course I can name shitty behaviour and fucked up historical period of every nation. 
<2022-12-12T05:05:33.000Z> Turkleton: I respect honesty.
<2022-12-12T05:07:52.000Z> Turkleton: My cousin has a Jewish friend I met when I was there. He was like 15 though. There has been a lot Jews in east Europe for better or for worse for a long time.
<2022-12-12T05:08:48.000Z> Turkleton: Is Israel uh ..nice? 
<2022-12-12T05:47:45.000Z> Turkleton: Im not the kind of person that instantly shits his pants when someone is Jewish like most people on poast.  Just saying.
<2022-12-12T07:41:34.000Z> KyotoSong: Well it's good to know there are still adequate people in here. 
<2022-12-12T07:45:19.000Z> KyotoSong: As for Jews in East Europe, I believe it has started big time thanks to king Casimir III of Poland, which has granted Jews with same privileges as the Polish citizens back in 14 century. That was a groundbreaking progressive political decision which was clearly ahead of its time.
<2022-12-12T07:49:11.000Z> KyotoSong: But of course the population decreased drastically. Firstly because of well known events that took place in 1941-1945 and secondly as a result of them - repatriation to Israel and immigration to other countries (both became available after Dissolution of USSR).
<2022-12-12T07:50:17.000Z> KyotoSong: Of course there were dissidents in 1960-70s but those were small numbers compared to major Jewish immigration of early 90s.
<2022-12-12T09:30:35.000Z> KyotoSong: As for the Israel itself, well the life here is not simple at all. Compared to most OECD countries we produce and earn too little for much more work hours per week. All this is derivative of demographics  problem we have where the most growing segment (orthodox parasites) doesn't work nor does army service. But the most criminal and hypocrite thing is they're receiving dotations from the government
<2022-12-12T09:33:04.000Z> KyotoSong: So in other words - I am law abiding, hard working citizen that tries to give my children the education etc. But I am obliged to pay enormous taxes which are used for dotations to those lazy tora brainwashed parasites.
<2022-12-12T09:37:26.000Z> KyotoSong: This happens because theg have right to vote, so by supporting them financially, corrupted leaders like Netanyahu are bying themselves a prime minister's position on elections.
<2022-12-12T09:38:55.000Z> KyotoSong: But tell me which right they have to vote? They don't work, don't do army service, some percentage of them even hates this country to the degree they throw rocks at our soldiers and burn Israeli and US flags.
<2022-12-12T09:46:37.000Z> KyotoSong: And there are lots of people like me. Mostly Ashkenazi Jews of course with strong roots in Europe, with hatred towards clerical dictatorship and with a dream of real separation of religion and state.
<2022-12-12T10:36:28.000Z> Turkleton: Interesting. That is a very bizarre religion imo.  I guess you could make we a case for a lot of religions being the way but some of the stuff in the Zohar and Talmud are creepy as hell. Like the Adam Kadmon thing. They sound like the blacks in America as far as how they act.
<2022-12-12T10:37:19.000Z> Turkleton: I don't get why they would hate the country. I thought they have wanted it for a long time .
<2022-12-12T11:02:49.000Z> KyotoSong: No, the emancipated Jews wanted the country. Those who were highly skilled and successful in Europe prior to 20th century. The orthodox never did. They only want temples and synagogues for their prayers. Part of them have royalties in Europe or US (like jewelry and likes) so they don't neeed this country. They hate the democratic values it was built upon. 
<2022-12-12T11:06:36.000Z> KyotoSong: Here's a thing - among those 37 members who have signed our Declaration of Independence in 1948 not a single one was religious. Most of the people had higher education, were scientists, lawyers, doctors etc. 36 of 37 were born in Europe (be it east or west). 
<2022-12-12T14:34:38.000Z> Turkleton: wow. That is fucked. I am beginning to think that all governments are cancer the older I get. Definitely in America. All politicians are shit. And I hate to say it this way but most "dissidents" here are very very stupid. Or if not they are some sex freak weirdo.
<2022-12-12T18:49:45.000Z> KyotoSong: That is fucked indeed. Most of our politicians are shit as well and the minority who are not are whether freaks like you've mentioned or never achieve the election barrier because the most population is too stupid to elect them..  
<2022-12-16T18:06:56.000Z> Turkleton: I would love to have that donation info. If I told you how much money I have donated to people over there you would probably call me nuts but I need to do something or I get very depressed about it
<2022-12-16T18:32:41.000Z> KyotoSong: Not at all. Me also into it. I can't fight the ussian pigs myself because I already served in IDF and I have a family to support them financially. But still I can donate my couple of bucks each month to the right thing.
<2022-12-16T19:21:24.000Z> KyotoSong: What I actually did, I buyed as many tickets as I wanted to donate. Here's a link:
<2022-12-16T19:21:26.000Z> KyotoSong: widget.kontramarka.ua/en/widget353site12031/widget/index
<2022-12-16T19:23:43.000Z> KyotoSong: Also, I have reached the Zoo guy who is responsible for all the PR related to donation, i asked him to provide direct requisites instead of purchasing tickets
<2022-12-16T22:15:08.000Z> Turkleton: Dude...thank you. I mean that.
<2022-12-17T08:02:51.000Z> KyotoSong: Anytime dootI also love pets especially cats. Now I see my twins also acquired this love through me and my wife.
<2022-12-18T18:25:38.000Z> KyotoSong: I see you're heavily into polish rac. What are your favourites? What else do you listen to?
<2022-12-19T14:22:21.000Z> Turkleton: Honor is good. I heard a polish strasserist band the other day that was pretty good..I like RAC from all over tbh. There are some really terrible ones from America that I can't dig though.
<2022-12-19T14:23:56.000Z> Turkleton: youtu.be/sZLV7A8os88
<2022-12-19T14:24:06.000Z> Turkleton: Fave Ukrainian band tbh
<2022-12-19T14:29:13.000Z> Turkleton: So...like do you think America has a problem with over representation of Jewish people in the government?  I know you are not fully Jewish but still I am curious to get a different perspective from the side that is being criticized all the time. 
<2022-12-19T14:32:26.000Z> Turkleton: I think we have deep problems beyond that personally. I think capitalism might be evil no matter who is running the show.  But I don't have answers on how to fix that. 
<2022-12-19T15:54:08.000Z> KyotoSong: Oh, Sokyra are legends. Honor are dank, too. But Russian rac is really doesn't do it to me. With some exceptional songs of Kolovrat and likes. 
<2022-12-19T15:55:38.000Z> KyotoSong: I mean polish rac are great most of the times musically and songwriting wise.
<2022-12-19T15:56:41.000Z> KyotoSong: I don't think capitalism is the best solution but it's better than all the rest. 
<2022-12-19T16:03:13.000Z> KyotoSong: Of course in that system there are only few that get most of cream of the crop (be it Jewish ones or others). There are lots of studies (and they are not new btw) which prove that given all our (earth) resources we have an ability to feed all 7 billions population. But there are groups which aren't interested in that kind of resources division. 
<2022-12-19T16:04:45.000Z> KyotoSong: They are interested that the poor would remain the poor and the rich would get even richer. 
<2022-12-19T16:05:47.000Z> KyotoSong: And they are highly interested that people would hate one another. Be it race or religious view or some other agenda.
<2022-12-19T16:07:34.000Z> KyotoSong: They are afraid of people unity. "Divide et impera" - that's not new but it works great today.
<2022-12-19T17:04:52.000Z> Turkleton: You are the first Israeli citizen I have had a conversation with that didn't start off with some hostile shit about antisemitism. Which is nice. I don't think a lot of white nationalist types have ever actually met or talked to a Jewish person. Just saying.
<2022-12-19T17:05:52.000Z> Turkleton: TNF is ok for Russian RAC but I get ya.
<2022-12-19T17:06:52.000Z> Turkleton: I like a lot of coldwave and post punk synth hipster music too hahaha
<2022-12-19T17:12:51.000Z> KyotoSong: There's nothing wrong with coldwave and post punk 🙂
<2022-12-19T17:13:46.000Z> Turkleton: 🤙🤙
<2022-12-19T17:15:12.000Z> Turkleton: Lots of good Ukrainan post punk stuff
<2022-12-19T17:15:57.000Z> Turkleton: Synthwave is popular there which is cool
<2022-12-19T17:16:58.000Z> Turkleton: Sadsvit is great
<2022-12-19T17:17:27.000Z> Turkleton: Weird looking little guy lol
<2022-12-19T17:20:02.000Z> KyotoSong: Send me stuff. Never actually thought it has a big scene in Ukraine. In Russia on the other hand there are lots of bands of this kind. Maybe it has smth to do with the atmosphere of it's geography - cold, forgotten towns with similar buildings and desperate people.
<2022-12-19T17:21:33.000Z> Turkleton: They are very poetic about depressing topics for sure.
<2022-12-19T17:22:00.000Z> KyotoSong: Exactly 
<2022-12-19T17:22:28.000Z> Turkleton: youtu.be/EGLoIaHwKfE
<2022-12-19T17:27:24.000Z> Turkleton: youtu.be/rUJmQvZfpns
<2022-12-21T21:15:47.000Z> KyotoSong: This guy Ursus you have a conversation with is a plain lier and full of shit. Just saying.
<2022-12-21T21:16:44.000Z> KyotoSong: Gave me a good laugh with most of his comments 
<2022-12-22T01:39:41.000Z> Turkleton: Yeah man I know but I want to understand why and what it is that makes these people sincerely believe this shit.
<2022-12-22T01:40:47.000Z> Turkleton: It's kinda black pilling tbh we can't get along and everyone is so gullible 
<2022-12-22T12:50:26.000Z> KyotoSong: Yeah i understand.
<2022-12-25T16:03:37.000Z> Turkleton: Merry Christmas to you and your fam if you are into that ☺
<2022-12-26T08:01:14.000Z> KyotoSong: Thanks buddy, you too. Thanks for your kindness.
<2022-12-26T08:02:08.000Z> KyotoSong: In family (like most of ex-Ussr repatriants) we're more into New Year's Eve
<2022-12-26T08:04:57.000Z> KyotoSong: And of course it's Hanukkah everywhere you know. But except for the candles (which we light mostly for children bc it fascinates them), we're far from rituals haha.
<2022-12-26T08:10:07.000Z> KyotoSong: I miss the snow so much. It adds greatly to that holiday atmosphere. It's raining in most if the regions on winter here. 
<2022-12-26T08:10:49.000Z> KyotoSong: Rain is more depressing rather than festive 🙂
<2022-12-26T08:58:08.000Z> Turkleton: The weather here has been very absurd lately like it's never been that I can remember. It was 5 degrees yesterday morning and now it's almost 50 out and raining 
<2022-12-26T09:07:04.000Z> KyotoSong: Damn. Piece of difference ha?
<2023-01-12T13:08:27.000Z> KyotoSong: Regarding your question about Russian army: they are all criminals, but still unconvicted (hopefully will be). Their officers have no pride and I doubt they ever had. I don't think real russian patriot supports this criminal war. Real russian patriot dreams of quick collapse of this corrupted regime and supports Ukraine.
<2023-01-12T15:21:25.000Z> Turkleton: Yeah I have a couple Russian diaspora friends that feel bad about it. One specifically said that she wakes up really angry because she can't do much about it.
<2023-01-12T19:34:15.000Z> KyotoSong: Well I understand, but they had 24 years to do something about it.
<2023-01-12T19:49:01.000Z> KyotoSong: But all that time they kept behaving like sheep being happy about rising oil prices, about their fucking mortgages and all inclusive trips to Egypt and Turkey. While not giving a damn about their country invading, killing, raping neighbor countries (Chechnya, Georgia, now Ukraine). 
<2023-01-12T19:54:14.000Z> KyotoSong: Now the war came for them and their relatives from TVs.
<2023-01-13T07:23:57.000Z> Turkleton: True
<2023-05-04T12:36:08.000Z> Turkleton: Hey man hope you are doing well 😊
<2023-05-04T14:44:22.000Z> KyotoSong: Hi man.
<2023-05-04T14:46:08.000Z> KyotoSong: Yeah, everything is fine, thanks for caring. Haven't been around for a while because children burn most of the time.
<2023-05-04T15:01:25.000Z> KyotoSong: Raising twins is tough. 
<2023-05-04T15:08:25.000Z> Turkleton: Nice 🙂
<2023-05-04T15:11:33.000Z> Turkleton: You have been honest and quite nice to me and that is something I don't forget just saying.
<2023-05-04T15:14:57.000Z> KyotoSong: Cool to hear. I'm grateful for such kind words. Most of our life we don't manage to meet people who value honesty. 
<2023-05-04T15:15:27.000Z> KyotoSong: Sorry for being pessimistic. I'm just in kind of shitty mood. 
<2023-05-04T15:17:13.000Z> Turkleton: It's understandable and true. Shit is kinda rare these days tbh 
<2023-05-04T15:17:33.000Z> KyotoSong: One of the things that always keep me sane and alive is music. Without it I would probably lose it already fs.
<2023-05-04T15:18:23.000Z> Turkleton: Music is good. You have great taste in it if I don't say so myself 🙂
<2023-05-04T15:20:01.000Z> Turkleton: Been reading a weird book about southern American slang terms from the early 1900s so pardon my french buckaroo
<2023-05-04T15:20:45.000Z> KyotoSong: Agreed. Shakespeare's Hamlet said "To be honest as this world goes, is to be one man picked out of ten thousand." Nowadays you multiply it by 1000 at least.
<2023-05-04T15:21:18.000Z> KyotoSong: Cool. I like historical novels and historical fiction 
<2023-05-04T15:21:52.000Z> KyotoSong: Dumas and Maurice Druon are some of my all time fav authors 
<2023-05-04T15:26:18.000Z> KyotoSong: What is the book?
<2023-05-04T20:30:02.000Z> Turkleton: It's an old book just called southern slang. It has no cover and I got it from a free library thing they have in my town. It's pretty haggard but I am desperate for books because I have read all that I have. I will probably order some soon though 
<2023-05-07T08:41:51.000Z> KyotoSong: That's great to know some people are still fascinated with books. I think this today's fucked up Tik Tok generation misses it a lot. They don't take time to read, to think, to act etc. They are used to conception that everything is done fast. And that is abnormal.
<2023-05-07T14:46:52.000Z> Turkleton: Very true. 