<2022-01-01T06:27:23.000Z> Turdicus: Thank you fren
<2022-01-01T06:29:01.000Z> scalar: Anytime sir. Just re-iterating the things you already know, adding a push behind them.
<2022-01-01T06:29:14.000Z> Turdicus: It helps
<2022-01-01T06:33:16.000Z> scalar: glad to hear. when in doubt, ask her about herself or her work - then you don't have to generate content where you're unsure if the other person is even interested. and, you get to know her better. can be as simple as "You seem really busy as always, how has your day been?".
<2022-01-01T06:33:49.000Z> scalar: always here if you need anything or just want a sounding board to confirm your already good intentions
<2022-01-01T06:37:07.000Z> Turdicus: Yeah it’s tough, anytime I’m talking to other baristas it’s easy. I’ve been in other places or the same place and been able to chat with a barista forever. She makes it tough just by existing. Probably because I care about what she’ll think while everyone else I can just effortlessly talk. I’ve tried to just not care what she thinks but it didn’t work. !
<2022-01-01T06:37:18.000Z> Turdicus: she just makes me nervous I think 
<2022-01-01T06:37:56.000Z> Turdicus: ,so I’ll have to keep working on that. Phone posting with chat is awkward whoops my messages look like shit my bad
<2022-01-01T06:38:31.000Z> scalar: have you considered that you might have set yourself up for success, via being nervous, due to her seeing you easily conversating with every other barista except her? nigga - she may be a bit jealous, and more interested than you think.
<2022-01-01T06:39:09.000Z> scalar: "why not me, but everyone else? he probably thinks i'm dumb or ugly or something"
<2022-01-01T06:40:16.000Z> Turdicus: Mmmm that’s an interesting point I hadn’t thought about that
<2022-01-01T06:40:16.000Z> scalar: just saying that I think you may have - unbeknownst to you - created a foundation for success here.
<2022-01-01T06:41:04.000Z> scalar: just as in hindsight, in many instances what we were thinking at the time seems retarded and disconnected from reality - the same goes for everyone else, including women, just in their own version of it.
<2022-01-01T06:41:45.000Z> scalar: "HE TALKS TO EVERYONE ELSE. BUT HE WONT TALK TO ME. IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME. EVERYONE ELSE TALKS ABOUT HOW AWESOME HE IS. WHAT THE FUCK."
<2022-01-01T06:42:10.000Z> scalar: -tier thinking, lol. Maybe it's a bit of an exaggeration, but a necessary one.
<2022-01-01T06:44:28.000Z> Turdicus: I used to work for the company so I would come in and talk to an old coworker really familiarly and one of the other baristas acted like she was out of the loop because she didn’t know me but everyone else did. So that might be true. Since then I’ve talked more to the out of the loop one but avoided the cute one because j felt like I was being creepy or weird around her
<2022-01-01T06:49:17.000Z> scalar: Let's re-frame it: by continuing to not at the very least, include her in the conversation/banter with the old fren - you become what you fear - creepy or weird around her.
<2022-01-01T06:49:56.000Z> scalar: Thus! Even more reason to talk to her. You'd be surprised how far just asking her "how her day is going so far" with a few follow up questions to the specifics will get you.
<2022-01-01T06:52:11.000Z> scalar: tbh, sometimes it can be like playing Talmudic-4D-chess with internal narratives that are limiting, because in many cases they leverage one's good nature against themselves.
<2022-01-01T06:52:47.000Z> scalar: At the very least - even in a possibly non-romantic way - She wants you to like her and to display some kind of sign that you like her.
<2022-01-01T06:53:24.000Z> scalar: Not "like" as in necessarily attracted, but like a "least of all possible affinities" like her as a person.
<2022-01-01T15:16:58.000Z> Turdicus: hmmmm i see
<2022-01-01T15:18:06.000Z> Turdicus: either today or tomorrow i'll grab coffee then and try to talk to her more. I've done the hows your day going thing before to pretty non-exciting results but maybe now it'll be different
<2022-01-01T20:28:42.000Z> Turdicus: Ok I talked to her and she told me about her New Years and how she was hanging with her roommate until like 9:30 then went to her room to drink and hang out alone. She left abruptly and I couldn’t tell if I did something, if she was done talking, or if she was just busy closing the store. She seemed like she asked more about my New Years than hers though so I don’t know
<2022-01-02T04:38:04.000Z> scalar: have an idea, is it okay to do a bit of socratic style questioning if you're around?
<2022-01-02T04:42:03.000Z> Turdicus: Henlo
<2022-01-02T04:42:55.000Z> scalar: so it's called we do a little critical thinking, but because you're not in the mix of it all - it's in the abstract.
<2022-01-02T04:43:06.000Z> Turdicus: ok
<2022-01-02T04:43:08.000Z> scalar: "she was hanging with her roommate until like 9:30 then went to her room to drink and hang out alone"
<2022-01-02T04:43:22.000Z> scalar: what might you be able to infer from this?
<2022-01-02T04:43:24.000Z> Turdicus: yeah she said her social battery was drained
<2022-01-02T04:43:59.000Z> Turdicus: and i was like yeah i wanted to leave my party early but ended up stayed until midnight by the time the time i wanted to leave rolled around
<2022-01-02T04:44:39.000Z> Turdicus: well she worked yesterday so i can infer that she just wanted to be alone and drink i guess
<2022-01-02T04:44:45.000Z> Turdicus: either she was tired
<2022-01-02T04:44:48.000Z> Turdicus: or something
<2022-01-02T04:46:33.000Z> scalar: lemme give you a different angle - doubt.jpg ; women tend to be much more self-conscious than men who don't mind admitting "i sat at home and did nothing and had more fun". social battery being drained is also another way of saying disatisfaction with what is going on.when you're having fun, and it's exciting - you never hear anyone "quitting early" - but rather recanting the tales and then something along the lines of "im dog tired but it was worth it"
<2022-01-02T04:47:20.000Z> scalar: she essentially had no one to hang out with on NYE other than her roommate and at that went off to just drink alone, in a small bedroom.
<2022-01-02T04:47:38.000Z> scalar: does not sound happy about it.
<2022-01-02T04:47:39.000Z> Turdicus: yeah i guess so, i never see women at restaurants alone and stuff but i do that kind of thing and spend time in public alone a lot
<2022-01-02T04:47:54.000Z> Turdicus: that's true, that just makes me sad
<2022-01-02T04:47:58.000Z> scalar: yeah, same here. so know exactly where you're coming from.
<2022-01-02T04:48:08.000Z> Turdicus: i don't like when people do that and are upset by it
<2022-01-02T04:49:26.000Z> scalar: it's not fun, but it 1) gives you insight that any negative signals weren't directed towards you interacting with her 2) things may not be going the way she would like them to be going for her in life
<2022-01-02T04:49:56.000Z> Turdicus: that makes me sadder. she's so nice
<2022-01-02T04:50:25.000Z> scalar: don't be sad, take it as encouragement to be outwardly nice to someone who is nice to so many others.
<2022-01-02T04:51:23.000Z> Turdicus: i see
<2022-01-02T04:51:35.000Z> scalar: she may have asked more about yours because she didn't want to mention hers, as if it is some kinda stigma to have spent it alone drinking in her room
<2022-01-02T04:52:29.000Z> Turdicus: yeah she ran away pretty quickly afterwards, the store was closing in half an hour and she was closing it so i dont know if she was embarassed or if she was busy
<2022-01-02T04:52:36.000Z> Turdicus: she kind of cut the conversation off short
<2022-01-02T04:53:52.000Z> scalar: Well, without assuming anything, think of all the coffee shops you've been in within 1hr of closing. You notice the hard pivot to have everything closed/cleaned/done by the exact time the hours say they close?
<2022-01-02T04:54:24.000Z> Turdicus: i used to work in one for years so yeah i do remember, especially when the hours are modified and they closed at 4
<2022-01-02T04:55:01.000Z> scalar: and the manager on your ass if you were like 14.88 minutes over the close time still cleaning up?
<2022-01-02T04:55:27.000Z> Turdicus: yeah i always told my manager i'll get it done when i get it done and if they want it faster to give me more people
<2022-01-02T04:55:48.000Z> scalar: which obviously, they are not giving her - correct?
<2022-01-02T04:56:25.000Z> Turdicus: she had a decent amount of people but a large chunk are in isolation because of covid exposure (lol) i found out the other day from her coworker
<2022-01-02T04:56:31.000Z> Turdicus: and its a very busy location
<2022-01-02T04:56:56.000Z> scalar: so she had a shit-tier NYE, has to work the next day, and presumably close up again by herself. also to note that New Years Day is super busy because everyone has the day off from their jobs except for her.
<2022-01-02T04:57:09.000Z> Turdicus: yeah
<2022-01-02T04:57:11.000Z> Turdicus: i've been there
<2022-01-02T04:57:29.000Z> Turdicus: its just been a while so i forget a bit of what its like i guess
<2022-01-02T04:57:31.000Z> scalar: HENCE, with all this just trying to solidify it that any "mixed signals" coming from her likely had nothing to do with you - she's just trying her best
<2022-01-02T04:57:59.000Z> scalar: Would say that overall, you had great success - because despite mixed signals due to issues she seems to be having in her own world - you did have a protracted conversation where you seemed confident in.
<2022-01-02T04:58:25.000Z> Turdicus: hmm yeah
<2022-01-02T04:58:40.000Z> Turdicus: i forgot to mention to her i won the christmas jewel last night too, bmmer
<2022-01-02T04:58:52.000Z> Turdicus: hmm wonder when i'll see her again
<2022-01-02T04:59:09.000Z> scalar: Your confidence/being relaxed/yourself in interacting with her is 90% of the battle, sir. The content doesn't really mean much. Thus, I tally this as a W for you.
<2022-01-02T04:59:25.000Z> Turdicus: ty fren
<2022-01-02T05:01:33.000Z> scalar: no problem man. next time you see her, just genuinely ask how she's doing/everything is going - if shes feeling better you might get more accurate signals from her? or at least extend things out a few more sentences for another W.
<2022-01-02T05:03:38.000Z> Turdicus: thank you, i probs wont go in tomorrow to not overdo it
<2022-01-02T05:07:38.000Z> scalar: always a good idea. this may sound retarded but it popped in my head - an idea if you imagine a "fog of positivity/good well-being" around yourself however you think something like that may look- then when you're interacting with her or even anyone - extend that outward. you can leverage your own innate goodness, consideration/care for others by essentially creating a similar space for them. might be a bit too out there for ya, lol. but the idea being that confidence and relaxedness, just being who you are -> transfers over -> allowing others to relax, internal anxieties STFU and not interfere for more transparent interactions
<2022-01-02T05:08:42.000Z> scalar: hence the confidence building by just "stacking sentences" each instance. while maybe lacking short-term success, makes for long-term gains for anyone else.
<2022-01-02T05:09:09.000Z> Turdicus: hmmm i'll try that
<2022-01-02T05:09:19.000Z> Turdicus: better mindset and try to project it
<2022-01-02T05:09:25.000Z> Turdicus: that's a good idea
<2022-01-02T05:09:37.000Z> scalar: also a bit of a whitepill: sir, home drinking alone in her room for NYE either means no BF or shit-tier BF (barring some weird long-distance thing)
<2022-01-02T05:12:16.000Z> Turdicus: yeah that was always what i wondered about because i thought she had one actually but then when she said she was alone last night i was like internally "wait uh what? why?"
<2022-01-02T05:13:01.000Z> scalar: nigga might have fucked her over and went and did something else
<2022-01-02T05:13:23.000Z> Turdicus: literally makes no sense
<2022-01-02T05:13:46.000Z> scalar: needless to say, you'll find out eventually. talking about this in anyway it's difficult not to come off as shitty/shady/unethical when advocating for you to you (i.e. fuck that guy even if he exists, lmao)
<2022-01-02T05:14:16.000Z> Turdicus: fr
<2022-01-02T05:14:23.000Z> Turdicus: yeah 
<2022-01-02T05:14:28.000Z> Turdicus: no idea
<2022-01-02T05:14:49.000Z> scalar: how pieces of shit treat really awesome women, tends to never make sense.
<2022-01-02T05:15:19.000Z> Turdicus: yeah if she has a boyfriend i dont understand his tthought process
<2022-01-02T05:15:34.000Z> Turdicus: unless she wanted to be alone with the social battery thing
<2022-01-02T05:15:40.000Z> scalar: let me be an asshole/shady person for a moment: if she were in a happy-relationship (even if long-distance) - would she had begrudgingly hung with her roommate until 9:30 and then just went to drink alone in her room.
<2022-01-02T05:16:16.000Z> Turdicus: i guess so, the pattern of hangouts is a bit weird if that were the case
<2022-01-02T05:16:30.000Z> scalar: telling you "social battery" is a cope and avoidance-tier excuse. There's always a "charge" in the "social battery" if the occasion/event is enticing enough, unless there's some legit depression/neurological-issues going on
<2022-01-02T05:17:17.000Z> Turdicus: yeah when i was out at school i got a phone call and they made me get out of bed to run down the street to a party one time, i guess you can always be enticed out
<2022-01-02T05:17:43.000Z> scalar: further - did she say whether her roommate left at 9:30 to go to an actual NYE thing? Or did the roommate magically just stay in their shared space drinking, while she proceeded to go drink alone. My bet would be she hung out with the roommate until it was time for roommate to go to what she planned
<2022-01-02T05:18:09.000Z> scalar: been there bro, and you feel the better for it (usually, lol) no matter how tired you are
<2022-01-02T05:18:27.000Z> Turdicus: ah thats true, no there was no distinction. she just decided to go to her room i thought but it could've been that a party for theroomate was starting
<2022-01-02T05:19:04.000Z> Turdicus: yeah i stayed three times longer that night than i wanted too and got a lot closer to that group of people just off of that night and one of them are still my best friend right now
<2022-01-02T05:20:15.000Z> scalar: see? "social battery" is just a polite way of saying my plans were either fucked over or i had nowhere to go.
<2022-01-02T05:21:01.000Z> Turdicus: she should've just come to my party, we had present ball
<2022-01-02T05:21:57.000Z> scalar: are you friends with her on any IRL social media?
<2022-01-02T05:22:42.000Z> scalar: not trying to pry, just have reasoning for this. because YES she should have, but do you have method to "retroactively invite her" - "Hey, next time X, Y, Z you should just come hang out with us"
<2022-01-02T05:22:45.000Z> Turdicus: yeah i added her on faceberg
<2022-01-02T05:25:20.000Z> Turdicus: nah you can pry
<2022-01-02T05:25:25.000Z> scalar: well, if you're friends - you tell her in person when she's feeling more upbeat that if she's ever stuck with nothing to you - can always "open invite". then, next time you have something fun, larger-than-normal going on - can always invite her.
<2022-01-02T05:25:48.000Z> Turdicus: nani?
<2022-01-02T05:25:48.000Z> scalar: (oh no, just seeing if you had an alt means of msging her besides phone number exchange is the extent to the prying, lol)
<2022-01-02T05:25:57.000Z> Turdicus: ah ok
<2022-01-02T05:26:15.000Z> scalar: stuck with nothing to do*
<2022-01-02T05:26:18.000Z> scalar: lol sorry
<2022-01-02T05:26:51.000Z> Turdicus: ah ok so put the offer out there and in her head preemptively?
<2022-01-02T05:27:19.000Z> scalar: stuck with nothing to do, you can always "open invite" into the conversation. you'll either hear something or not (likely not), but interest is peaked and when you have something "too legit to quit" going on, extend the offer - where she can bring friends or whatever.
<2022-01-02T05:28:38.000Z> scalar: well just essentially being the good fucking guy that you are - like you wouldn't hesitate to tell any of your male or female IRL friends, after hearing they drank alone for NYE - "well why the hell didn't you come hang out with us"
<2022-01-02T05:28:50.000Z> scalar: same principle.
<2022-01-02T05:29:36.000Z> scalar: however, don't force it. keep it like that card that does xxxxxxdamage and if the conversation moves to a good place, lay it on the table for all to stand back in awe
<2022-01-02T05:32:08.000Z> scalar: We might be getting a bit ahead of ourselves and don't want to overload you/confuse you. Essentially, we're not saying "she lying, dis what really happened" - but trying to maybe garner some insight as to why she was how she was when you were talking to her, why "social battery" might not have been a real thing, and that if even a fraction of these assumptions are true - sir, your world is a definite upgrade for her.
<2022-01-02T05:32:56.000Z> Turdicus: I see, yeah this does make it a bit less muddy thank you
<2022-01-02T05:34:23.000Z> scalar: yeah yeah yeah, don't worry about "must invite her out somewhere next time" - that's setting yourself up for failure/rejection if she says anything weird. just a thought. the main goal right now is just to have fun, happy, relaxed, authentic dialogue that extends a bit more each time you talk to her - with the content biased towards you getting to know her better i.e. questions about her, how shes doing
<2022-01-02T05:36:42.000Z> Turdicus: Yeah maybe I can say to her that it’s a bummer she spent New Years at home and that next time there’s always room at one of my friends’ parties or something 
<2022-01-02T05:37:41.000Z> scalar: can't hurt if it's not putting her on the spot to say yes to someone who shes just beginning to get to know
<2022-01-02T05:40:03.000Z> Turdicus: Yeah an offer that isn’t committal since there’s nothing planned now. When she’s bored or thinks about it she can just hit me up and if something is going on it’s on the table and if nothing is going on then maybe something could be. But it puts the ball entirely in her court with no awkward commitments for her
<2022-01-02T05:44:07.000Z> scalar: keep it to "next time there’s always room at one of my friends’ parties or something" when mentioning NYE, and that's the extent you go at first, think you're golden. Nothing other than an openly hostile response from her or angryNO should be taken as being meaninful, it's just putting it out there because thats who you are as a person in the first place
<2022-01-02T05:45:48.000Z> Turdicus: Hmmmm ok I’ll try to remember this
<2022-01-02T05:48:06.000Z> scalar: essentially, all the analysis isn't that terribly useful - just comes down to being yourself, as you are with your friends - in conversation with her, a bit more each time. if things click, with you being yourself - awesome. if not, no worries as you've got mad gains on your "confidence muscles" in regards to interacting with someone you want to get to know better in a context like this.
<2022-01-02T05:48:50.000Z> Turdicus: Hmmm ok
<2022-01-02T05:50:20.000Z> scalar: sir, am known for being a bit of an "eccentric" so sometimes will type shit that looks like english to me - turns out was fucking swahili or some dead language to anyone else looking at the same text. plz don't hesitate to ask "da fuq did you mean by that", never any offense taken - always encouraged
<2022-01-02T05:56:56.000Z> Turdicus: I think i mostly get it
<2022-01-02T05:57:08.000Z> Turdicus: just a lot all at once about something I’m not particularly good at
<2022-01-02T05:57:47.000Z> Turdicus: all I know is she’s really pretty, I like when I get to talk to her, and I wish she wasn’t alone last night because it probably made her sad
<2022-01-02T05:58:12.000Z> scalar: yeah, it's my fault. think as someone on the TL correctly bantz'd me for is that i'm in capable of communicating without literal mini-novellas.
<2022-01-02T05:58:25.000Z> scalar: that's why you're such a good person/
<2022-01-02T05:59:13.000Z> scalar: and everything, if you boil it down, said to you here is really just to get you to be relaxed in being that good person you are around her.
<2022-01-02T06:00:10.000Z> scalar: nothing contrived, pre-planned, mind-games, cold/hot bullshit - just you, who are more than worthy, being who you are without being filtered by one's own anxiety or benevolent misconceptions about the other
<2022-01-02T06:00:13.000Z> Turdicus: I like the large blocks of text though fwiw, it’s just going to be overwhelming no matter how you slice it
<2022-01-02T06:00:40.000Z> Turdicus: thanks bro ☺️
<2022-01-02T06:01:34.000Z> scalar: no problem sir, if i'm around - always here if anything comes up. despite her unfortunate NYE - today was a definite W for you.
<2022-01-02T06:02:00.000Z> Turdicus: Thank you, I think I need to hear that sometimes
<2022-01-02T06:05:03.000Z> scalar: won't let you sell yourself short, my friend. it's a process, that no matter the outcome - you'll be better for it at the end.
<2022-01-04T05:18:58.000Z> Turdicus: What level of schizophrenia is happening right now and should I be concerned
<2022-01-04T05:21:06.000Z> scalar: tbh, think if your doors are already open to the shit then c'est la vie - but if not, avoid and trust whatever higher beliefs you have. in this case? lol, you're a good Soul - he's harmless but might want to gracefully exit.
<2022-01-04T05:21:51.000Z> scalar: i like nosenberg but fuck if you can't be drawn into conversation and ask yourself where the fuck did my productivity go (me, last night)
<2022-01-04T05:21:58.000Z> Turdicus: I don’t understand
<2022-01-04T05:22:03.000Z> Turdicus: lmao ah ok
<2022-01-04T05:23:07.000Z> scalar: oh, yeah. since the first msg back to you didn't make sense (no fault of yours) might be best to gracefully exit than toying with any schizo stuff. NIGGA YOU ALREADY ON A MISSION (coffeegirl)
<2022-01-04T05:23:29.000Z> scalar: gotta maintain that positivity!
<2022-01-04T05:24:41.000Z> Turdicus: Bro I know I’m still 😖 about it. I’m starting to wonder if I was supposed to ask her to do stuff that day and that’s why she was a bit short the next day? I’m just gonna do something next time I see her. Or ask my old coworker is she’s seeeing anyone but I don’t know if that’s a good idea
<2022-01-04T05:24:53.000Z> Turdicus: yeah I do have a mission. I’m trying to remain positive
<2022-01-04T05:25:38.000Z> scalar: yeah, avoid the schizo stuff, any d*mon shit. all of it.
<2022-01-04T05:26:00.000Z> Turdicus: Will do
<2022-01-04T05:26:33.000Z> scalar: Don't worry about shoulda/woulda/coulda - never gets you anywhere. The goal is to increase level of conversation length and ease of conversability (relaxedness you feel just shooting the shit with her, asking her about her day)
<2022-01-04T05:27:42.000Z> scalar: if you ask your old co-worker, might be best to frame the question as open-ended or non-specific just in case someone has loose lips or snitches on you, lol.
<2022-01-04T05:28:48.000Z> scalar: Out of curiosity or maybe i missed some details - what leads you to think that you were supposed to ask her to do stuff, didn't, and thus is why she was short with you?
<2022-01-04T05:31:47.000Z> Turdicus: I don’t know just when I typed out the two days to my friend all at once I kind of read like that to me
<2022-01-04T05:32:26.000Z> Turdicus: teah I have to figure out how to ask my old coworker without being obvious. She can be chatty but might be able to keep her mouth shut 
<2022-01-04T05:32:48.000Z> scalar: "how do you like working with X"
<2022-01-04T05:32:57.000Z> scalar: "oooooooh why are you asking me"
<2022-01-04T05:33:13.000Z> scalar: "i don't know *guilty smile* she's pretty awesome"
<2022-01-04T05:33:53.000Z> scalar: leave it somewhere there if you do ask her. this way if she does open her mouth then you've signaled interest but nothing crazy/stalker-y
<2022-01-04T05:34:28.000Z> scalar: just an idea, if you do. all sorts of way to go about things.
<2022-01-04T05:35:26.000Z> Turdicus: Hmmm I see that’s an approach yeah
<2022-01-04T05:37:00.000Z> scalar: vague, open-ended and mitigates most risk from her mentioning you asking about her.
<2022-01-04T05:37:32.000Z> scalar: get a sense that you're anxious for a happening of some sort of another and want to just dive in and get it over with, lol
<2022-01-04T05:54:38.000Z> Turdicus: Yeah I think so, I’d rather just figure it out now than dwell on it forever
<2022-01-09T02:49:50.000Z> Turdicus: so i was talking to old coworker yesterday and the girl was joining in intermitently when she could and wasn't busy running the front. we were talking about movies and she brought up "house of a thousand corpses" when my old coworker brought up horror movies. so i was like "do i have to watch that now" and she went "yes" so now i'm gonna watch that movie despite not really liking horror at all and assuming its just going to be a gorefest which i also am not about at all. but i got to talk to her a lot and she was doing cute stuff like accidentally spilling my refill on my coffee a little. i drank all my stuff talking to them before sitting down so i got another before going to a table and she made fun of me and i was like well i like the people here so i talk to them and she said the people there like me too, so that was nice. she asked me to open the shades behind my chair since she was trying to let light into the store but only for me to open it if it wasn't too annoying for me. figured i'd update you on that front since you've been a bro
<2022-01-09T09:43:34.000Z> scalar: congrats sir. really happy for you. not even going to hyper-break it down like before - just that it looks very good for you. big whitepill... except for the shitty Rob Zombie movie lmao, but you'll survive
<2022-01-09T09:44:00.000Z> scalar: "NOW YOU HAVE TO WATCH SCHINDLERS LIST" lol
<2022-01-09T14:56:15.000Z> Turdicus: "ok now you have to watch greatest story never told :^)"
<2022-01-09T14:57:28.000Z> Turdicus: yeah a shitty rob zombie movie is def not what i'd ever first pick to watch but i enjoyed the first half because the absurdist comedy aspects were funny to me. the end where theres a bunch of freaks and monsters in a room filled with TVs though made me go hmmmm 
<2022-01-10T04:05:30.000Z> scalar: lol. ah, just a movie. glad things are moving for you in that direction.
<2022-01-10T04:33:48.000Z> Turdicus: ty fren
<2022-01-10T04:36:36.000Z> Turdicus: but yeah i watched it last night, so next time i see her ill talk to her about it or something. cant help but feel like im being shittested or trolled or something or she'll say "lol i wasn't serious"
<2022-01-10T04:38:06.000Z> scalar: could always lead in with "was tired, wanted to watch something, nothing looked good. randomly remembered your House of 10,000 Libtards and decided - why not, and gave it a shot".
<2022-01-10T04:38:44.000Z> scalar: you'd be surprised. it's a bit of an unfortunate bit of modern society that tons of girls say they like horror movies *deep siiigggghhhhhh*
<2022-01-10T04:39:42.000Z> Turdicus: yeah i've noticed that
<2022-01-10T04:40:02.000Z> Turdicus: i know i;ve heard the analysis on that horror movies are for women because of them being the victims or something
<2022-01-10T04:40:06.000Z> Turdicus: i dont recall all of it
<2022-01-10T04:40:58.000Z> Turdicus: horror movies were never my bag, i didnt really understand them i guess. like the only ones that seemed interesting were the more esoteric ones. the vvitch is the only one i've seen and wanted to watch again and thats barely horror i think
<2022-01-10T04:41:21.000Z> scalar: best to keep it out of your mind for now, fren. don't spook yourself with thoughts on stats on just how many have some sort of wild trauma in the background. you
<2022-01-10T04:41:40.000Z> Turdicus: i cant tell if its a test by her to see if i remember parts of conversation with her and care enough to do something on my own because of it 
<2022-01-10T04:41:40.000Z> scalar: 're a fast, ruminative thinker.
<2022-01-10T04:42:03.000Z> Turdicus: yeah its the retardation that lets me dwell on stuff
<2022-01-10T04:42:32.000Z> scalar: ah, just play it off as a casual watching. "not the biggest horror fan so had low expectations. however, it wasn't that bad. may have even liked it a bit. (insert bit about fucktards around tvs at the end)"
<2022-01-10T04:43:23.000Z> Turdicus: no the tv part was like, i assume rob zombie trying to create a depiction of hell. i think a lot of his stuff is just him trying to depict hell
<2022-01-10T04:43:33.000Z> scalar: doubt she's quizzing you on horror movies as if it's an assignment. she probably just wanted to include a rec of a movie just to feel included in the conversation.
<2022-01-10T04:43:51.000Z> Turdicus: mmmm thats true she probably wanted to feel included
<2022-01-10T04:43:55.000Z> Turdicus: thats cute
<2022-01-10T04:43:58.000Z> scalar: there's a flip side to girls who say they like horror movies - they tend to not actually be horror movie buffs or big cinemaphiles
<2022-01-10T04:45:19.000Z> scalar: House of 1000 corpses is a bit dated for her age-group, much less a girl of her age enjoying horror movies. No dox here but out of curiosity if you know how old she is - look up when the movie came out. If she was like 12 or something when it came out, lmao chances are she just wanted to feel included in the conversation. House of 1000 corpses is the HotTopic-tier Horror movie pic.
<2022-01-10T04:46:00.000Z> scalar: (watch me get blown the fuck out and you find out she's a cinemaphile with a spare hard-drive just for Criteron Collection version of "cinema", lol)
<2022-01-10T04:47:21.000Z> Turdicus: shes like 21 and it came out in 2003 so i have no idea where the fuck that rec came from, i think she's a media production major or something to that effect
<2022-01-10T04:48:05.000Z> Turdicus: i like to actually talk about movies and garbage like that and critique it so i actually have some amount of thoughts on the movie
<2022-01-10T04:48:07.000Z> scalar: fuck me, she may be deep into media movies. just vaugely seeing "House of 1000 corpses" merch still being sold in Hot Topics loooooong after 2003, lmao.
<2022-01-10T04:48:18.000Z> Turdicus: so like conversing about that kind of thing for me is pretty easy
<2022-01-10T04:48:47.000Z> Turdicus: yeah it definitely had a sort of classic feel, like some of the camera work i assume was the first time those angles were used
<2022-01-10T04:48:54.000Z> scalar: all the better. let's hope im full of shit and she's a secret film buff so it will be even more fun.
<2022-01-10T04:49:08.000Z> Turdicus: and i got a lot of the rob zombie feel from just that movie, definitely has an aesthetic
<2022-01-10T04:49:37.000Z> scalar: wonder if she has seen They Live, lol
<2022-01-10T04:49:48.000Z> Turdicus: she might be, i think shes mentioned she has no friends before but i couldn't tell if it was an exaggeration or not. if she does have no friends she might be a movie buff
<2022-01-10T04:49:53.000Z> Turdicus: i havent seen that
<2022-01-10T04:50:12.000Z> Turdicus: i wish she'd rec the thing or something i havent seen but is on the list of stuff that doesnt suck
<2022-01-10T04:51:27.000Z> scalar: she drank alone for NYE and seemed upset about it, avoidant even. might be true?
<2022-01-10T04:51:55.000Z> scalar: idk man. too much thinking. only grug - one day at a time. doors wide open which is what matters for you.
<2022-01-10T04:53:11.000Z> Turdicus: yeah for real, once i heard that i figured it might actually be true
<2022-01-10T04:53:41.000Z> Turdicus: shit i have friends, why cant she have friends
<2022-01-10T04:55:12.000Z> Turdicus: thats sad
<2022-01-10T04:55:18.000Z> Turdicus: thanks a lot for always chatting man
<2022-01-10T04:56:35.000Z> scalar: think nothing of it. i've enjoyed it quite a bit. am invested in your success now, anyways lol
<2022-01-10T04:58:10.000Z> Turdicus: i'll keep you updated then
<2022-01-10T04:58:25.000Z> scalar: so media production major - is that another name for film major? (especially if there is no film program?)
<2022-01-10T04:58:57.000Z> Turdicus: legit dont know, i only overheard her once. she just got her 2 year though she said online
<2022-01-10T05:06:26.000Z> scalar: weird question - do you know how many hours she works a week. i.e. is she Full Time, 40 hours at the coffee shop?
<2022-01-10T05:07:51.000Z> Turdicus: no idea, i usually only see her there on the weekends. the cafe is closed weekdays so i would have to drive through, staffing is an issue sometimes i think so they close early. especially with people getting sick
<2022-01-10T05:08:18.000Z> Turdicus: i know she was working and school, she mentioned trying to find something else though workwise. no idea when though
<2022-01-10T05:08:50.000Z> scalar: she might not be able to have a big social life due to needing lots of hours for financial obligations or if she's paying her own way
<2022-01-10T05:10:24.000Z> Turdicus: yeah that might be possible too, i have thought of that
<2022-01-10T05:11:07.000Z> Turdicus: im insane though so that actually make her more attractive that she can work and do school like that even though it probably sucks
<2022-01-10T05:13:28.000Z> scalar: it's not insanity. the capacity to "work hard" + "financial stability in early life" + "ability to balance work + school" = very good qualities in women in our modern context
<2022-01-10T05:24:46.000Z> Turdicus: yeah feels good
<2022-01-12T03:13:17.000Z> Turdicus: getting ready to just meessage this girl and ask if house of a thousand corpses was supposed to be a comedy
<2022-11-02T04:51:22.000Z> scalar: There were many instances during my duration away when I wondered how "CoffeeGirl" worked out for you. Hopefully it went well my friend.
<2022-11-02T13:35:14.000Z> Turdicus: Thanks for hitting me up. I asked if she wanted to hang out and ghosted me but that’s fine because I tried. Wasn’t too broken up about it. How’ve you been man?
<2022-11-02T13:37:23.000Z> scalar: Well, that's unfortunate - however, I do remember being torn as to how to tell you that girls who are really into horror or only enjoy horror movies - huge red flag for terrible and unfortunate events down the road, lmao.
<2022-11-02T13:38:10.000Z> scalar: I'm doing well. Very happy to be back. It's been a whirlwind of a year. How has your world been going?
<2022-11-02T13:44:39.000Z> Turdicus: Not much has changed for me. Lots of same stuff but meeting some goals and potentially some opportunities if I can focus and get ideas on paper. I’m glad I made some New Years resolutions, I’ve met most or working towards them. 
<2022-11-02T13:44:49.000Z> Turdicus: yeah dude girls who like horror are a weird type
<2022-11-02T13:45:02.000Z> Turdicus: i hope your whirlwind of a year is all good things
<2022-11-02T13:47:40.000Z> scalar: Glad to hear you're hitting the marks you've set for yourself. I think overall things are at equilibrium in my world. Some wins, some losses. However, I am happy to be back.
<2022-11-02T14:11:29.000Z> Turdicus: Really glad to see you back man. I’ll have to keep you updated if anything big happens on my end, working on a thing that a friend told me he’d run. I’m the creative end and he’s the more business end and can facilitate that for me. Hoping it becomes something 