<2022-03-04T18:40:16.000Z> Turdicus: Vial is kino. Sorry don’t want to dox myself too much with mtg 
<2022-03-04T18:40:34.000Z> Stormbard: No worries, I caught a glimpse of you playing death shadow
<2022-03-04T18:41:09.000Z> Turdicus: Yeah gonna play it until they ban lurrus. 
<2022-03-04T18:41:18.000Z> Stormbard: I actually looked it up on goldfish and it looks like it got a bunch of toys between kroxa, iteration, darcy and drown
<2022-03-04T18:41:22.000Z> Turdicus: How’s storm been lately?
<2022-03-04T18:41:25.000Z> Stormbard: Is lurrus even that important to the strat?
<2022-03-04T18:41:36.000Z> Stormbard: Storm's been looking up with the addition of wish, that card is nuts
<2022-03-04T18:41:56.000Z> Stormbard: I can put all the spicy tech I want on the sideboard, and hide wincons from the couple players in my meta who still play surgical extraction
<2022-03-04T18:42:22.000Z> Stormbard: I also wanted to try that 1RRRR instant from kamigawa that flashes things back cause it doesn't sound that hard to make that much mana in storm
<2022-03-04T18:45:51.000Z> Turdicus: Yeah lurrus let’s you have a grindy plan just as an extra 8th card which nets an extra 9th card. It’s really important
<2022-03-04T18:46:13.000Z> Turdicus: Wish seems awesome. I wanted to make a deck using wish but I don’t really brew or build decks
<2022-03-04T18:46:36.000Z> Turdicus: Yeah that much red seems easy to make for sure
<2022-03-04T18:48:47.000Z> Stormbard: That's fine, I'm mostly an FNM player and I really like brewing stuff, most of my brews are fairly fragile but some of them are good enough for small weekly tournaments
<2022-03-04T18:49:56.000Z> Stormbard: While I don't hope lurrus gets banned for your sake, I really thought Ikoria was a net negative for the game and I hoped they just owned up to the mistake companions were and banned them instead of doing an errata
<2022-03-04T18:50:25.000Z> Stormbard: How much worse do you think gds would be without lurrus? This list looks fine to me mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-death-s-shadow-472#paper
<2022-03-04T18:59:33.000Z> Turdicus: Ikoria was gay and shitty. Companions are a neat idea sort of but everyone knew from the start they’d be absolute unmitigated cancer. Lurrus as printed is literally the best card they’ve ever made. Gds would survive without lurrus for sure, it was good before it’ll be good again. It would just play murktide instead which is a different card entirely but still strong. I think the biggest winners from a lurrus ban are nettlecyst and murktide regent because the best decks don’t play those cards and would suddenly have less reason to not use them. I play any archetype and any colors, I’m not tied down to bugaboos like “I hate red” or “I hate control”, whatever they ban I’ll survive <3
<2022-03-04T19:01:24.000Z> Turdicus: Lurrus just represents an 8th and 9th card in any grindy match up, a lifelink threat to stave off dying if your back is against the wall, recursion on threats, and a lock piece when your nihil spellbomb/dress down/pyrite spellbomb/engineered explosives is exactly the card you need for a match up. It’s crazy good
<2022-03-04T19:03:41.000Z> Stormbard: That's a good outlook man, I think companions were just capitalizing on commander's success without thinking of the wider implications and while I enjoy commander with friends, wotc piggybacking off of its success has done more harm than good to the game.
<2022-03-04T19:04:04.000Z> Stormbard: I saw lurrus was the nuts when my friend who only really plays burn started playing it, recurring the canopy lands alone was sick
<2022-03-04T19:07:05.000Z> Turdicus: Companions iirc were nosewater’s idea that he forced through despite everyone telling him it’s a bad idea including Garfield back when he pitched it years ago. It’s literally just a jewish idea
<2022-03-04T19:07:13.000Z> Turdicus: You can’t recur lands with lurrus btw
<2022-03-04T19:07:46.000Z> Stormbard: Then he fudged the cast clause, what a guy
<2022-03-04T19:07:50.000Z> Turdicus: Lurrus is the only card to ever be BANNED in vintage and not involving ante or some other gay stuff. Literally the only power level ban they’ve done in vintage
<2022-03-04T19:09:08.000Z> Stormbard: Fucking nosewater man, I hate that guy. Dude literally hates commander and I think that's why he wants to milk for cash it to death.
<2022-03-04T19:09:44.000Z> Stormbard: I'm just happy Mutate wasn't more useful because it has so many strange edge cases with rules it's baffling it ever made it past R&D in the same set as the mistake of companions
<2022-03-04T19:14:19.000Z> Stormbard: Do you also just play at FNM? or do you do more involved stuff like MTGO or bigger tournaments?
<2022-03-04T19:16:14.000Z> Stormbard: Though on second thought, if you don't wanna dox yourself it's fine man, I'm just excited to chat with someone besides my best friend about the game on a simillar wavelength, the rest of my playgroup is mostly commander babbies, but I've convinced most of them to draft with me when a new set comes out
<2022-03-04T19:20:42.000Z> Turdicus: I play weekly events at my local shop and travel for events that aren’t too far in my area. Thankfully I’m not notable as a racist so there’s not a lot of incentive for people to actively try to dox me
<2022-03-04T19:21:11.000Z> Turdicus: I haven’t gotten into mtgo yet but any day now I’ll be trying to care enough to give it a try lol
<2022-03-04T19:21:44.000Z> Turdicus: I’ve been doing drafts on arena and we’ve been getting one box every set since summer to draft, tonight is actually our kamigawa draft
<2022-03-04T19:22:01.000Z> Turdicus: Mutate is also cancer, it’s crazy how awful ikoria was lol
<2022-03-04T19:22:56.000Z> Turdicus: Yeah I’m trying to be a bit more careful about doxing myself with magic. I get around a bit and do well so people know me. I have all of my decklists on my wall in my office at work since I started there. I need to move to the opposite wall it’s too full
<2022-03-04T19:23:07.000Z> Stormbard: Oh I gotcha, I'm not american but I'm in a big city for work reasons so I go to FNM every so often. I've also been considering mtgo cause I wanna play some pauper, but I get angry at my opponents on arena cause I can't see them face to face and can't try to play mind games or chat them up while I'm losing
<2022-03-04T19:23:40.000Z> Stormbard: Dude, kamigawa is super fun mechanically, I'm still not fully on the whole mech shit cause I feel it's too overt and modern of an inspiration but the gameplay is really really fun
<2022-03-04T19:28:44.000Z> Stormbard: I'm holding out to get a double masters box to draft cause it'll probably be fun and I might get some good playables for modern. Also hot tip if you get around in the states, apparently Walmart has a habit of mislabeling "draft packs" (which are actually 3 draft boosters in one) as having the price of a singular pack, I heard someone did that with 2XM and got some really good pulls. I'm not the kind of guy who gets loose packs to crack, but hey, that's good for several chaos drafts if anything
<2022-03-04T19:29:18.000Z> Turdicus: I played an arena event that started at 5am my time so I woke up at 4:30 and called my opponents niggers for three hours before getting bumped out
<2022-03-04T19:29:33.000Z> Turdicus: Arena makes me worse than paper because I can just call my opp a nigger and faggot
<2022-03-04T19:30:14.000Z> Turdicus: I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked kamigawa. They could’ve really made it aesthetically gaudy and ugly as fuck but they did a good job for the most part
<2022-03-04T19:30:16.000Z> Stormbard: Oh dude I do that all the time, I think 1 hour of arena makes me say nigger at least 15 times
<2022-03-04T19:31:26.000Z> Turdicus: I don’t do the buy packs to open lottery thing either but everyone was excited for kamigawa so I might see I can find some Walmarts around here to get some to save for a rainy day thank for the tip
<2022-03-04T19:31:31.000Z> Stormbard: I think the gaudy stuff is more on forgettable chaff than anything, but it is there. I am especially not hot on the fact that mechs are just called "mechs" when it could have taken their writing team like 3 minutes to pick a more evocative name that wasn't so on-the-nose
<2022-03-04T19:32:07.000Z> Turdicus: Some faggot made what should’ve been a ten minute or so game take nearly twenty because he let himself rope every fucking turn. Like dude wipe your ass already and finish the game
<2022-03-04T19:32:44.000Z> Turdicus: Yeah if you’re gonna do “mechs” at least flavor them for the very inspired Japanese plane
<2022-03-04T19:34:07.000Z> Stormbard: Yeah, like Kaladesh didn't have "Car" or "Sedan" on the names, they were like Chargers and Caravans and such, so "Mech" really seems lazy
<2022-03-04T19:34:50.000Z> Stormbard: Oh dude, I really dislike roping when I grind gold for drafts on brawl, besides so many players pick super boring value engines and there's barely any cool brews on it
<2022-03-04T19:35:41.000Z> Stormbard: Tell me how you liked Kamigawa once you played it in paper, hope it's a fun one. Gotta go run some errands now, see ya man, thanks for the chat
<2022-03-04T19:36:42.000Z> Turdicus: No problem hit me up sometime again to chat. 
<2022-03-07T14:09:51.000Z> Turdicus: Draft was deec btw. Lots of cool stuff in the set
<2022-03-07T14:11:14.000Z> Stormbard: That's cool to hear, what did you end up drafting?
<2022-03-07T14:28:31.000Z> Turdicus: UG. My friend and i’s draft strategy this set is go green unless you get uw vehicles uncontested
<2022-03-07T14:30:54.000Z> Stormbard: That's cool, I drafted UG once and it definitely has good uncommon bombs and roleplayers, but I liked RW a lot the last two times I played it (granted I had like 7 on-color rares so that introduces bias)
<2022-03-07T14:31:06.000Z> Stormbard: Why green exactly? That has to be the color I've played the least in the set
<2022-03-07T14:31:31.000Z> Stormbard: UW vehicles is the tits, especially with that one 1UW vehicle that makes pilots
<2022-03-07T14:52:04.000Z> Turdicus: Green has so many good cards at common and uncommon. We found the bamboo archer is really good in the format as a 2 mana 3/3 but also as an enchantment. The channel aura that makes a monk token, the tanuki, the jukai preserver, masters rebuke, season of renewal. They’re all really good. Gw and gu are really good, definitely what I’d draft if I had the option
<2022-03-07T14:52:34.000Z> Turdicus: rw is medium imo, it can be good but I think green has a lot more going for it
<2022-03-07T14:53:11.000Z> Turdicus: The uw uncommon is basically the whole reason to be in the vehicles deck and I think the archetype is on the weak side of you don’t have it. But I probably need to draft it more
<2022-03-07T14:57:00.000Z> Stormbard: You make a good argument for green, I've liked blue and black mostly for their removal, black red especially was fun. I'll see about playing more green, cause you're right that the commons are very solid, I think white might be more solid than blue as a second color, but what you pick is up to what's open I suppose
<2022-03-07T14:57:34.000Z> Stormbard: rw has some gross aggro potential, but I'd rather not go full aggro in a draft setting cause I feel it's a bit of a glass cannon (unless it's like cube or something)
<2022-03-07T15:02:01.000Z> Turdicus: I only like blue for the turtle. Black removal is solid in the set yeah, never a bad thing in limited. I think the average green deck is just stronger than the average of most other colors. I favor green in limited though
<2022-03-07T15:02:25.000Z> Turdicus: aggro in draft has never been something I can draft well. That’s probs on me though 
<2022-03-07T15:07:59.000Z> Stormbard: I'm usually the simple BREAD & draft-what's-open type of player, but I tend to favor more midrangey builds with an avg cmc between 3 and 4 in most formats
<2022-03-07T15:08:29.000Z> Stormbard: Red artifact builds are also very fun, if you ever see dragonspark reactor and you're still in the colors try it out, it's almost a shrine of burning rage
<2022-03-07T15:12:26.000Z> Turdicus: I’ll def go red if I get some nice red cards. The early red removal in the format is really good
<2022-03-07T17:39:13.000Z> Stormbard: magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/march-7-2022-banned-and-restricted-announcement
<2022-03-07T17:39:15.000Z> Stormbard: I bring the news
<2022-03-07T19:20:32.000Z> Turdicus: I’ve been messaging people all day. Desleeving gds when I get home and putting murktides back in the sleeves
<2022-03-07T19:21:01.000Z> Turdicus: the big takeaway here is that dress down is one of the best cards in the format and anyone who can should be playing more copies
<2022-03-07T19:21:20.000Z> Turdicus: Murktide, nettlecyst, seasoned pyromancer, and yorion are the biggest winners from this ban
<2022-03-07T19:21:57.000Z> Turdicus: people who want to play their awful 3 cmc and greater cards are in for a rude awakening coming up. Sorry Liliana of the veil is not a playable card
<2022-03-07T19:23:55.000Z> Stormbard: Dress down is pog, as the kids say
<2022-03-07T19:24:29.000Z> Stormbard: How do you feel about MH1 & 2? cause they seem to shape the meta very heavily
<2022-03-07T21:23:11.000Z> Turdicus: Cool designs. Probably not the best for the format as a whole unless you want to brute force it to look how you want. For how impactful those sets are the packs are way too expensive
<2022-03-07T22:03:59.000Z> Stormbard: Yeah, that's about where I land. I'm not too hot on the over-representation, I preferred having them drip-feed archetype support like with Ninjas and Slivers or making a couple buildarounds like Urza and Yawgmoth without making Prismatic Ending or Ragavan which are just good pretty much regardless if you're in the colors.I think the price is just them realizing they can jew eternal players out of more shekels