<2021-10-31T22:43:47.000Z> TurboNormie: You want to make some real $$$?
<2021-10-31T22:44:31.000Z> TurboNormie: I will allow you to have the T shirt idea I've been kicking around for years for the normiecon store
<2021-10-31T22:44:44.000Z> TurboNormie: NASCAR shirt:
<2021-10-31T22:45:06.000Z> TurboNormie: America, it's about turnin' left and votin' right
<2021-10-31T22:45:18.000Z> TurboNormie: It works on multiple levels
<2021-11-01T00:03:04.000Z> WoodshopHandman: D E V I L L I S H
<2021-11-01T00:03:07.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I like it, thank you
<2021-11-01T00:07:33.000Z> TurboNormie: I will buy one
<2022-04-29T02:11:24.000Z> TurboNormie: youtu.be/QL8g88xs2Ak
<2022-04-29T02:11:45.000Z> TurboNormie: You will stand in your 5'x5' station for 8 hours straight wagie
<2022-04-29T02:12:01.000Z> TurboNormie: While robots and computers scream at you to keep your pace
<2022-04-29T02:12:51.000Z> TurboNormie: Knowing the entire time the only thing standing between you and the streets is the fact computer vision and robotic dexterity isn't quite there yet on handling loose items like clothes
<2022-04-29T02:19:16.000Z> WoodshopHandman: Fortunately I don't think that larger items necessitating a pallet will get this sort of overhaul for some time (Godcast knows quite about this sort of thing IIRC) and I'm skeptical about how adaptive the traffic flow would be if something spilled or someone/something walked in front of it or whatever (plenty of warehouses are prone to rats).
<2022-04-29T02:20:26.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I do think that it's something that will become much more commonplace in the coming years, of course, but I'm skeptical about its efficacy.
<2022-04-29T02:21:34.000Z> WoodshopHandman: At the very least, I would see its initial implementation being a thing primarily for new warehouses, since restructuring an old warehouse would be a much higher loss than a fresh testing ground.
<2022-04-29T02:30:54.000Z> TurboNormie: That's the thing... I've seen it and it works. You're right it works best for greenfield sites but there's a torrent of relocations from the worst states to more rural red states right now because land is infinite and cheap on top of the usual reasons
<2022-04-29T02:34:57.000Z> WoodshopHandman: So I take it that in addition to the "order fillers" at the conveyor, there's also a crew at the receiving end of things that's actually packing out the totes with items coming off the trucks? Do they have a system for larger items or is this explicitly for things like clothing warehouses where they don't have much, if anything, that wouldn't fit anyway?
<2022-04-29T02:38:01.000Z> WoodshopHandman: Warehouse work is genuinely the only kind of work in my area that someone can reasonably support themselves on at the starting wages, and if this drives that down any further, nobody in my area is going to be able to live off of just one unskilled job.
<2022-04-29T02:49:50.000Z> TurboNormie: Let me try and find a video of the truck unloading process
<2022-04-29T02:50:12.000Z> TurboNormie: Automated, it just grabs slipsheets and breaks it down to a conveyor
<2022-04-29T02:50:54.000Z> TurboNormie: My exact purpose in making my statement is that this is going to erase an entire category of "work of last resort"
<2022-04-29T02:51:32.000Z> TurboNormie: No one wants to sweat it out in a warehouse running busted forklifts but it pays well so it's always there... until it isn't
<2022-04-29T02:52:31.000Z> WoodshopHandman: wtf how is even that automated? Is everything coming in on totes like that or shrink-wrapped pallets (what I'm used to)?
<2022-04-29T02:53:51.000Z> WoodshopHandman: At the very least having manual receiving would still have a decent amount of people working on the floor but if they managed to automate out of even that, shit's fucked worse than I thought
<2022-04-29T03:01:56.000Z> TurboNormie: Boxes stacked 2 high on slipsheets, huge conveyor extends in, grabs them, and them breaks the pack into individual boxes further down the line
<2022-04-29T03:02:15.000Z> TurboNormie: Then wagie serves a robot by opening the box and feeding The Beast
<2022-04-29T03:02:37.000Z> TurboNormie: There are still humans where needed but they are slaves to the machines
<2022-04-29T03:03:46.000Z> WoodshopHandman: shit dude, flipping burgers at mcdicks is gonna wind up paying more
<2022-04-29T03:04:38.000Z> TurboNormie: The operation I saw went from ~400 people at peak to 45
<2022-04-29T03:04:55.000Z> WoodshopHandman: It's basically a fucking mail sorting job at that point
<2022-04-29T03:05:09.000Z> TurboNormie: What happens to Soyciety when the employer of last resort no longer exists?
<2022-04-29T03:05:27.000Z> TurboNormie: What happens when the Devil has all the idle hands in the world?
<2022-04-29T03:05:29.000Z> WoodshopHandman: I wonder how the interview process works for these warehouses, since they don't need nearly as many workers. Like what "relevant experience" would you even look for to rank applicants?
<2022-04-29T03:07:12.000Z> WoodshopHandman: Gotta wonder how things like employees calling off works to, since one of your cogs is gonna be missing all day
<2022-04-29T03:09:19.000Z> WoodshopHandman: But yeah that gets implemented around here and warehouse pay is dropping to retail/fast food rates
<2022-04-29T03:13:59.000Z> TurboNormie: Wherever you live is an entirely different world from mine. Warehouse work here is niggers, a sprinkling of mystery meat, and below lumpenprole whites
<2022-04-29T03:14:43.000Z> TurboNormie: Absenteeism is just expected so they keep ~20% higher staffing than required because that's what it takes to overcome whatever the absentees are up to that day
<2022-04-29T03:17:08.000Z> WoodshopHandman: No, it's basically the same here. white bugmen, nigger frenchies from haiti, and about 50% people that struggle to speak english. I'm actually going back to my last warehouse job (hopefully only for a bit) but yeah last time I was there every floor worker (everyone under a supervisor) except for myself looks like some sort of drug addict.
<2022-04-29T03:18:33.000Z> WoodshopHandman: Yeah we had dudes that would straight up leave in the middle of their shifts without telling anyone and they'd get like 5 strikes before they got fired lmao.