<2023-01-21T20:51:05.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I wanted to reach out because I feel like we have a lot in common. I was going to reach out before but saw you were leaving poast, but you're back it seems. Are you a stay at home mom? 
<2023-01-21T21:13:04.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Yes, very new to the stay at home mum part but was a housewife for many years beforehand 
<2023-01-21T23:01:26.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I was a housewife when my husband was in the military and now I'm a stay at home mom. My son is about 4 months. Do you like it? I couldn't imagine leaving him and feel really bad for the mother's who have to go back to work. 
<2023-01-21T23:58:02.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I love it very much but it's been hard to adjust esp since my daughter had some silent reflux. Still wouldn't trade it for the world 
<2023-01-21T23:58:10.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Congratulations on your boy! 
<2023-01-22T00:19:19.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Oh I actually have gone through the same thing, but with regular reflux. I'm actually thinking he has a dairy allergy now and reflux was just a symptom because there's multiple things. I hope your daughter is doing well with it. I know it's a lot to deal with! But I'm sure you're doing amazing to help her through it. And thank you - it's definitely been life changing becoming a mother. I'm in the states, in California specifically, and I just don't know what to do to protect him from everything
<2023-01-22T00:19:58.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Congratulations on your baby girl! 
<2023-01-22T03:40:41.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I'm so sorry to hear where you are, have you and your husband considered relocating to one of the more wholesome and rural Red states? 
<2023-01-22T03:41:25.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: And yes reflux is horrible. Definitely get your son tested for allergies, it's worth trying what you can to improve things. We fixed things for our girl by starting solids a bit earlier under Dr advice, it really helped settle her tummy 
<2023-01-22T04:28:10.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I know. We were both raised here way up north and it's not as bad, but obviously living in California will always be a risk. We're actually going to Alaska this summer to see if that's somewhere we want to relocate. Because I just love the Pacific Northwest, but Oregon and Washington will have the same problems. But maybe Wyoming or Montana if the left doesn't infest it like they did Idaho 
<2023-01-22T04:30:13.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: It is! I'm so sorry your daughter has to go through it. That's interesting. How old was she when she started solids? Any suggestions on meals that helped settle her tummy? Unfortunately his pediatrician said you can't really test for dairy allergies so young because it can change day by day, so I have to do the elimination diet myself (since I combo feed). 
<2023-01-22T04:30:50.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Even if it's not perfect I feel anywhere will be better for your family than cali 
<2023-01-22T05:00:03.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I agree. I just want away from it all, from anything even leading to it. I mean I'd move to Russia to get away from what's happened here, and I wouldn't change a thing about there. Sometimes I just get scared it's all going to take over everywhere. I just want a place that treats women and womanhood with respect, but without all the other woke nonsense. There's the line, the rest is traditional. Alaska is far away it might just be perfect to at least be left alone for awhile. 
<2023-01-22T05:01:59.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I was talking to my husband about this, but have you ever noticed how anything to do with women is always lumped in with like LGBT crap? I just don't get it 
<2023-01-22T05:04:04.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: He's on poast btw, he's actually the one who told me to look you up lol 
<2023-01-22T05:24:26.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I want the same and yes it's very disheartening that treating women with dignity has been co opted by Marxist groups that don't even truly care for women at all and has been lumped in with sexual deviancy 
<2023-01-22T05:24:39.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: And that's very sweet. I feel honoured lol
<2023-01-22T05:29:41.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yes exactly, you put it perfectly. I feel the same way. 
<2023-01-22T05:32:19.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yeah haha, I'm glad he did. I'd be on there myself, I agree with a lot of the viewpoints I see around poast, but I just can't stand seeing some of them call women holes or something. 
<2023-01-22T05:33:35.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Yes it's a frustrating reactionary path. They seem to think doing the exact opposite of our enemies in every regard is going to produce good fruit unaware that our enemies lie about what they believe to virtue signal. Like it wouldn't be good to do away with genuine empathy for example just because that's something the left pretends to value, likewise with the treatment of women and girls 
<2023-01-22T05:41:52.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: That's a great point, yes exactly. Because then at the end of the day it alienates us from both. How are they going to combat the left by alienating us and making more women turn to who they think won't (if they believe the lies of the left). A paralleling example in different area is like when some members of the right go and litter to "own the librards." You're still doing something that hurts you, just to seemingly hurt your enemy more. And it just sucks being a woman pawned around like that.
<2023-01-22T06:02:07.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Yes it is absolutely terrible. They have been tricked into failing their masculine duties listed in the earliest book of the bible, genesis. Caring for the land and ruling over their wives in a Godly manner. It is heartbreaking 
<2023-01-22T06:18:37.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: My old priest once was talking about sin and the fall of Adam and Eve. He was joking how Adam got the punishment of lifelong labor and women got the punishment of childbirth, etc. But that we decided to take on Adam's punishment too haha. I mean I understand what sparked women wanting to work, financial independence because a lot of men were devaluing our labor and holding it against us. But my husband and I view our marriage as an equal partnership, just different roles that both hold value. 
<2023-01-22T06:19:55.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: My husband and I are very much the same. We both view what we do as equally hard work of value. Different but necessary. And I do wish more people considered it that way 
<2023-01-22T06:24:59.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yes exactly. Staying home with my son is harder than any job I've ever had. I'm so thankful to be able to do it (especially here in America) though. The way God intended families to run makes so much sense. I truly feel that's why civilization is failing is because the family unit was targeted and essentially destroyed on a large scale. 
<2023-01-22T06:26:01.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Absolutely. I relate to your feeling of political homelessness though, the misogyny and even disrespect of the stay at home mother in right wing circles makes me question things a lot 
<2023-01-22T06:26:18.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: But then even the radfem support of homosexuality a lot of the times is a sobering reminder 
<2023-01-22T06:31:31.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yes, it feels like everyone disrespects the stay at home mother. I know I don't feel like advertising that on Spinster. You're right about the right doing it too though, something I hadn't noticed often before (but I saw your most recent thread where they were twisting your words and calling men ATM machines - how can they expect a better society if a mother isn't raising her children to be good citizens?)  
<2023-01-22T06:33:30.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Yes, they will say in one breath that women should stay at home and the other that to provide is to be an ATM. They are not serious people with any coherent value system 
<2023-01-22T06:33:53.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yeah that's where I feel like a fish out of water too. Ultimately I don't support it. It's harmful, not as bad as the things we've seen, but the gateway to that. Lesbians aren't as bad as gays to me, but if I had a chance to go somewhere with none of it, I'd take it in a heartbeat. I try to be nice on Spinster though because I do connect with the women on there well. 
<2023-01-22T06:34:44.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: That's what I've noticed. They're letting emotions run them because theyre so angry, blinding their logic. Ironically that's something they say women do lol. 
<2023-01-22T06:34:46.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I am the same in that I view lesbians as much less offensive as gays because of all the orgies and sexual deviance gay men display 
<2023-01-22T06:35:14.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: But I did see that lesbians also have high abuse rates of children too the other day and that really put things back into perspective 
<2023-01-22T06:38:54.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yeah I'm in the exact same boat with that. Gay men are just useless and degenerate. That's interesting, I'd like to see that and share that with my husband if you ever find the link again. We were trying to find stats on if lesbian relationships (with their partner) were more abusive than straight couples but all he could find was it being pretty similar. So this would be neat to show him. 
<2023-01-22T06:41:52.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I'll have to keep an eye out to see if I can find it again and if I do you will be the first I send it to
<2023-01-22T06:44:13.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Thank you, I appreciate that. And I appreciate you messaging back. I'm glad we connected. 🤍 
<2023-01-22T06:44:22.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Because yeah the rates of abuse between lesbian couples are inaccurate due to how those stat's were poorly collected, the rates on how they mistreat their adopted children however is very similar to gay men 
<2023-01-22T06:44:27.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I am too 
<2023-01-22T06:47:29.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Wow I didn't know that. That's interesting. Of course they would skew how they collect data to fit an agenda. I mean I majored in a science (debatable actually, psychology) and what I was TAUGHT was to collect data in the most unbiased, accurate way. In the real world though, that's just not the case. It all has to fit an agenda. 
<2023-01-22T06:47:57.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: And we can't make LGBT look bad 
<2023-01-22T07:02:51.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: There are thankfully a few honest data collection industries left but they are becoming so much rarer these days
<2023-01-22T13:54:44.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: It's really upsetting. I started going down first to "conflicts of interests" on the articles just to see before I got into the results or anything 
<2023-01-22T13:57:07.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: It's a shame the amount of background research you have to do these days to make sure something is sound. You have to look into the people who carried out the studies and their political biases because you just cannot assume good faith anymore 
<2023-01-22T14:32:28.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Exactly. Their personal believes and who funded that research. Then we get told to trust them, they're the experts in the subject. They did the research! So we never question the data, how it got there, anything. It's like how Alfred Kinsey tried to skew it so more people looked homeosexual than they are, then it came out that his days was collected from people like pedophiles in prisons. Yet he's still celebrated today by normal people. 
<2023-01-22T14:32:52.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Data* 
<2023-01-22T15:15:44.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: And they completely flood fields with shitty studies because they exploit the fact that everyday people notice quantity and assume consensus when the actual measure is the quality of these studies 
<2023-01-22T16:20:04.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yes - that is such a good point! Quantity over quality at its finest. 
<2023-01-25T09:33:02.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: poa.st/objects/9269e252-d992-4450-8c61-fd51b6ae1e46
<2023-01-25T09:33:08.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Found those stats
<2023-01-25T15:50:28.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Wow. I'm also surprised the lesbians are higher than gays. 
<2023-01-25T21:14:05.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: For some reason I doubt the accuracy of that and suspect the gay category is somewhat under reported 
<2023-01-25T21:14:15.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: But the point is they are both pretty severe 
<2023-01-25T21:30:58.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yeah I see what you're saying. It's definitely eye opening. I mean even if someone wasn't religious, biology works with a mother and father. But it's become so accepted that the nuclear family is somehow bad? When it's the best thing for a child  
<2023-01-25T21:31:16.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: As long as the nuclear family is healthy with good morals and beliefs 
<2023-01-25T21:43:01.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Definitely, I'm more of the belief that multi-generational homes are healthier than nuclear but regardless, a child will always need both father and mother 
<2023-01-25T22:48:30.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Oh yeah that's definitely a good point. If that's not possible then just having a community that helps with children. Like a mother's village almost while the men are out. It's so hard to be home all day isolated with a baby, learning by myself. Having other family or just being around other women who understand would make this period so much easier. 
<2023-01-25T22:53:39.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I feel the same way. It can be so isolating being a mum, it's quite the shame 
<2023-01-25T22:53:53.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I definitely wish I had more of a village but what mother doesn't 
<2023-01-26T00:01:32.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I agree...it sucks. I'm just glad to have a great husband. I read some of these horror stories about bad husband's and dad's 
<2023-01-29T06:19:00.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Yes, I am certainly incredibly lucky to have a husband who is very present. I would not be able to do it without him tbh. He is all I have really 
<2023-01-29T06:19:11.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: But my heart aches for women who have nobody at all
<2023-01-29T06:26:44.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I agree. I was just talking to someone about that. I don't know how single mothers get through the newborn phase alone. Like when do they shower? It breaks my heart for them and the child. 
<2023-01-30T02:55:49.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I know! I have always wondered that. I have an insane level of respect for them after becoming a mother myself 
<2023-02-02T21:16:38.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Hey how are you and the family doing? 
<2023-02-02T21:17:53.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Also, you said you've started your daughter on solids already I think. Have you heard of baby led weaning? 