<2022-05-13T11:49:36.000Z> SuperLutheran: So I'm sure you're aware I was doxxed and had my life ruined.
<2022-05-13T11:49:59.000Z> SuperLutheran: Prayer is the first step. 
<2022-05-13T11:50:44.000Z> SuperLutheran: Not doing the groveling bit is the second. Don't apologize, don't beg, don't give these people what they want, which is power over you and your husband.
<2022-05-13T11:50:58.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I did hear that you were essentially kicked out of your church position, that was just horrible
<2022-05-13T11:51:04.000Z> SuperLutheran: Forgive immediately but cut off contact.
<2022-05-13T11:51:18.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Thank you
<2022-05-13T11:51:32.000Z> SuperLutheran: Oh we had to move because there were congregants that wanted to kill me.
<2022-05-13T11:51:43.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I am trying to to catastrophize, the stress is insane while pregnant
<2022-05-13T11:51:48.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: my goodness
<2022-05-13T11:52:00.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I hope it doesn't come to that but knowing how insane people are, it probably will
<2022-05-13T11:52:06.000Z> SuperLutheran: It's easy to feel like everything's falling apart,
<2022-05-13T11:52:11.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: and they know my address, these girls have been to my house, they were my bridesmaids
<2022-05-13T11:52:31.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: It kinda does, I haven't been able to stop crying all day honestly, it happened so quickly and instantaneously too
<2022-05-13T11:52:40.000Z> SuperLutheran: Keep in mind that there's only so much they can do.
<2022-05-13T11:52:55.000Z> SuperLutheran: You're a homemaker, right? They can't fire you from that.
<2022-05-13T11:53:02.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: That's true
<2022-05-13T11:53:16.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I just don't want any harm brought to my family and my daughter now that it's all out about me
<2022-05-13T11:53:33.000Z> SuperLutheran: I hear you.
<2022-05-13T11:53:41.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: not to catasrophise*
<2022-05-13T11:53:55.000Z> SuperLutheran: That's honestly why not talking to any of them is going to help.
<2022-05-13T11:54:09.000Z> SuperLutheran: People's fires burn out eventually.
<2022-05-13T11:54:14.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: It feels so hopeless, I've been a nationalist since I was 16, I've done so much, a lot of which I obviously wasn't responsible and optical about 
<2022-05-13T11:54:30.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: and it's all out there, and the irl stuff I've done
<2022-05-13T11:54:31.000Z> SuperLutheran: The more you call attention to it, the longer it takes for them to calm down and move on
<2022-05-13T11:54:35.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: it's all written about on news articles
<2022-05-13T11:54:39.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: antifa doxxing sites and pages
<2022-05-13T11:54:56.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: so many hitpieces in the worst possible light, that were just waiting to be found, and now they have been
<2022-05-13T11:55:04.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: yeah
<2022-05-13T11:55:33.000Z> SuperLutheran: Also,
<2022-05-13T11:55:43.000Z> SuperLutheran: I wouldn't talk about it on poast
<2022-05-13T11:55:50.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: alright
<2022-05-13T11:56:14.000Z> SuperLutheran: I've never said "I was doxxed" on poast or talked about people trying to have my kids taken away.
<2022-05-13T11:56:30.000Z> SuperLutheran: All that does is call more attention to the wrong thing
<2022-05-13T11:56:38.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: >people trying to have kids taken away
<2022-05-13T11:56:41.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: this is my worst fear
<2022-05-13T11:56:42.000Z> SuperLutheran: In addition to that,
<2022-05-13T11:56:50.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: and probably what I am most worried about with all of this
<2022-05-13T11:56:53.000Z> SuperLutheran: If you post as normal, that demoralized them.
<2022-05-13T11:57:23.000Z> SuperLutheran: *demoralized. Antifa was royally pissed that I never stopped my normal activities
<2022-05-13T11:57:24.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I will take the venting posts down, although they haven't discovered my poast or anything of the sort, the things they have found haven't so much been an online identity or account
<2022-05-13T11:57:39.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: as I have kept that seperate from my name
<2022-05-13T11:57:41.000Z> SuperLutheran: That's good
<2022-05-13T11:57:49.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: but still, better safe than sorry
<2022-05-13T11:57:54.000Z> SuperLutheran: As for your family,
<2022-05-13T11:58:18.000Z> SuperLutheran: Keep in mind that they might try something like that, but being a good parent is a shield.
<2022-05-13T11:58:38.000Z> SuperLutheran: The CPS investigator came, saw how my kids are happy and all,
<2022-05-13T11:58:56.000Z> SuperLutheran: And then closed the case saying we're perfectly fine as parents.
<2022-05-13T11:59:17.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: does political literature affect anything in regards to that? I'm honestly thinking of throwing out any books I own that acknowledges my values
<2022-05-13T12:00:10.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I think it's the most tiresome thing of it all, I just don't feel safe in my normal life because of it
<2022-05-13T12:01:04.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I'm so sorry that happened to you and that people are so ruthless over all of this
<2022-05-13T12:02:46.000Z> SuperLutheran: As for books, just don't have them on display in your living room. Cps people might hear something about you, but they likely won't take it into account if they see you and your family as happy and well adjusted.
<2022-05-13T12:02:59.000Z> SuperLutheran: As for me, the doxxing seems to be a God thing.
<2022-05-13T12:03:23.000Z> SuperLutheran: We're going to be starting a new synod, and I will end up being bishop over it.
<2022-05-13T12:03:38.000Z> SuperLutheran: Funny how getting my life ruined meant a huge promotion.
<2022-05-13T12:03:51.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I'm so glad it turned out for you in the end, and that the life ruination didn't succeed
<2022-05-13T12:03:58.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I guess it's now just time for me to brace myself
<2022-05-13T12:06:40.000Z> SuperLutheran: At the end of the day, these people are materialists that worship money and pleasure.
<2022-05-13T12:07:05.000Z> SuperLutheran: Their vision of hell is when money and pleasure are taken away from someone, so that is the highest form of punishment in their eyes.
<2022-05-13T12:07:42.000Z> SuperLutheran: But for us Lutherans, who hold spiritual matters to be far more important, that means they cannot succeed in breaking you. 
<2022-05-13T12:08:00.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: the only thing that matters to me is my family remaining safe and being able to raise my daughter without people trying to take that from me due to hatred of any opinions I've ever expressed
<2022-05-13T12:08:34.000Z> SuperLutheran: Absolutely. 
<2022-05-13T12:08:53.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I will keep praying on the matter, and do my best to trust that God will ensure the worst doesn't happen in that regard
<2022-05-13T12:09:04.000Z> SuperLutheran: And in that case, knowing who you can depend on is helpful as well.
<2022-05-13T12:09:30.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I guess part of being a dissident is also growing a spine and dealing with this nonsense in stride, so I need to stop being so jittery and terrified
<2022-05-13T12:09:48.000Z> SuperLutheran: If you have friends that share your convictions, now is the time to get closer to them.
<2022-05-13T12:11:32.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I do, it's kind of a well known group I am in that got me into this trouble. But at the same time it is worth it for such a community
<2022-05-13T12:12:30.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: At the end of the day none of us can turn back time and change whats out there, so all there is to do is pray and prepare for the future best we can
<2022-05-13T12:14:08.000Z> SuperLutheran: Excellent. Having a support network is extremely valuable.
<2022-05-13T12:14:16.000Z> SuperLutheran: How's your husband doing in all this?
<2022-05-13T12:15:45.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: He thinks I'm overreacting and that the worst thing that will happen is that I am socially disowned/ostracised, and that it doesn't follow that your average apolitical, left leaning normies are going to be passionate politically and try to destroy your life
<2022-05-13T12:16:04.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: but I think with the state of the world nowadays, and how those articles portray us, you cannot be so sure
<2022-05-13T12:17:36.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I also know that while my close normie circles were really just your average college aged women, they have other friends that are more extreme left-leaning that I've always kept my distance from, but such a thing could still spread to them
<2022-05-13T12:18:47.000Z> SuperLutheran: Well, being prepared is helpful, but I hope your husband is right
<2022-05-13T12:18:53.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I hope so too
<2022-05-13T12:19:05.000Z> SuperLutheran: If it's nothing more than losing bad friends, that's not the worst thing that could happen
<2022-05-13T12:19:26.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Yes, I am hoping that if that is the only outcome
<2022-05-13T12:21:26.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: Thank you for all the advice and support, I appreciate it greatly
<2022-05-13T12:27:13.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: it's been very comforting hearing your experience, and how you were able to turn it around, and nothing severe came of it in the end
<2022-05-13T12:27:18.000Z> TheVeryLutheranHousewife: I pray that it's the same for me
<2022-05-13T12:35:10.000Z> SuperLutheran: Absolutely. I'm here to help if y'all need anything. 