<2021-06-09T19:34:30.000Z> Roland_Gunn: extinguishthelight.com/2021/03/13/septuagint-vs-masoretic-text/ u might find this interesting
<2021-06-09T19:39:35.000Z> Roland_Gunn: basically the Masoretic OT, which protestants have been using since around the reformation (although they now cross check w/ Septuagint) was only "finished" during the late Medieval period. Virtually all early Christians would've used the Greek OT which was created well before the birth of Christ by Alexandrian Greek-speaking Rabbis. The Masoretic says the Messiah shall be born of a "young woman" but the Septuagint uses the more specific "parthena" (ie virgin) (see also "Parthenon" the temple to the Virgin goddess Athena). Jews use this as a "own" that the prophecy never said "virgin" but the Greek OT is much older that the widely circulated Masoretic and I have always believed the masoretic was intentionally altered to remove the pre-Christian tradition of the mother of the messiah being a *virgin*. What is even the point of saying "the mother of the messiah will be a young woman" that's a very "water is wet" statement.
<2021-06-09T22:13:03.000Z> DK_Dharmaraj: interesting. yes I am familiar with some of this. on that same note, the German word for "virgin," Jungfrau, literally means "young woman"