<2022-01-17T01:06:24.000Z> TinTin: Do you have a take on kinism, as the other reformed guy I know in sorta our milue 
<2022-01-17T02:02:14.000Z> Robert_Edwardly: Some of it is cringe, but most of it is just the bible properly understood. I have friends in our thing in meatspace who are kinists, one is an elder in a kinist Presbyterian church.
<2022-01-17T14:46:31.000Z> TinTin: I didnt realize there were kinist churches
<2022-01-17T14:47:28.000Z> TinTin: I ask cause I'm very sympathetic to alot of the arguments, faith and heritage for the most part has been fantastic
<2022-01-17T14:49:06.000Z> TinTin: what are the things you would say are cringe
<2022-01-17T14:50:08.000Z> TinTin: its tough cause I want to know the counter arguments but I havent found one that goes beyond "thats racist"
<2022-01-21T05:04:02.000Z> Robert_Edwardly: Forgot to respond to this. The cringe portions of kinism end up being association of race with salvation or the elect. Or assumptions like the idea that only the few families in someone's church are saved.  Sometimes it can even be pro Zionist and it's basically just "Christianity but we don't like black people". But there are congregations here and there that are pro white. Unfortunately the political climate being what it is, they often can't be super public about it.
<2022-01-21T18:20:35.000Z> TinTin: understandable