<2022-09-06T21:35:47.000Z> Ashalam: Hallo, I remember you saying you had registered here in the DM thread but you can never be sure.
<2022-09-06T21:36:12.000Z> Ashalam: I posted a game held in front of my screen making fun of...
<2022-09-06T21:39:21.000Z> Pissmaster: Marissa Moira?
<2022-09-06T21:39:29.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah I mentioned being regged here in The Crab Shack
<2022-09-06T21:39:43.000Z> Pissmaster: What's your username on KF?
<2022-09-06T21:43:34.000Z> Ashalam: God damnit, I sent a message to the void...
<2022-09-06T21:44:08.000Z> Ashalam: Four words, three capital S and then an H.
<2022-09-06T21:44:31.000Z> Ashalam: Fuck, now I saw you mentioned the crab shack. It's Smaug.
<2022-09-06T21:44:38.000Z> Ashalam: I'm no good at this.
<2022-09-06T21:45:04.000Z> Pissmaster: oh cool!  hello!
<2022-09-06T21:45:10.000Z> Ashalam: Hola!
<2022-09-06T21:45:58.000Z> Ashalam: I remember you saying that you registered your username but wasn't sure if it was here or telegram so I took a stab in the dark.
<2022-09-06T21:46:13.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah I've never been big on any Twitter clones either but I guess I'll live here when KF's down
<2022-09-06T21:46:28.000Z> Pissmaster: I'm not on Telegram at all, I don't have an extra phone number to give them that wouldn't dox me
<2022-09-06T21:47:03.000Z> Pissmaster: Anywhere associated with KF is a target for troons, I figure, so it's all burner emails from here
<2022-09-06T21:48:08.000Z> Pissmaster: Some people have mentioned some getting doxed on Telegram because apparently if you aren't careful you'll display your phone number to the world which is a platform-wide red flag already
<2022-09-06T21:48:18.000Z> Pissmaster: something so privacy-focused with such a big flaw
<2022-09-06T21:48:21.000Z> Ashalam: Same. I found that Poast takes temporary emails. A word to the wish, in the future I might show up as horsefootlover1863 or a different number.
<2022-09-06T21:48:24.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah.
<2022-09-06T21:48:33.000Z> Ashalam: I bet this is what it felt like being gay in the 1930's.
<2022-09-06T21:48:54.000Z> Ashalam: wise not wish, jeez.
<2022-09-06T21:49:53.000Z> Pissmaster: we have to go to our gay speakeasys where we can drink and be all gay and then leave the house and go "MMMM YES I LOVE DRINKING ESTROGEN HORMONES, WHERES THE NEAREST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THOSE KIDS PLAYING KID PIX IM GONNA CHOP THEIR KID DIX"
<2022-09-06T21:51:55.000Z> Pissmaster: I'm just gonna keep using Pissmaster wherever.  Probably not good opsec but I've also got a YouTube channel under the name, PSMSTR, and all I really ever want is a creative outlet that's not full of obnoxious woke retards that only applaud the narrative
<2022-09-06T21:52:14.000Z> Ashalam: It's absurd the amount of power the troons wield.
<2022-09-06T21:52:49.000Z> Pissmaster: I said it in The Crab Shack, this feels like someone very powerful is giving orders from on high.  It's all too weird and very sudden
<2022-09-06T21:54:13.000Z> Pissmaster: the whole Byuu situation, then Janke, then Keffals, all within a year, everything seemingly just going exactly as planned for them, Keffals inexplicably pulling $100k in donations and Byuu completely disappearing despite having a full name + face + spouse dox drop, and no one can find him
<2022-09-06T21:54:15.000Z> Ashalam: All the trans shit is like that, to powerlevel a bit but I know some people that have some political power with a feminist direction and they are/were huge supporters of trans women.
<2022-09-06T21:54:48.000Z> Pissmaster: Is it a fetish thing or a satanic thing with them, or what?
<2022-09-06T21:54:52.000Z> Ashalam: I asked them how it is possible to get pro-trans laws passed so easily while there is belly-aching and meandering for simple laws that they have pushed for for decades.
<2022-09-06T21:55:12.000Z> Ashalam: Laws that no one has ever seen or heard of just slips through like an oily turd.
<2022-09-06T21:55:40.000Z> Ashalam: The radfems had a stick it to the man/male thing going.
<2022-09-06T21:56:12.000Z> Pissmaster: What'd they tell you?
<2022-09-06T21:56:58.000Z> Pissmaster: I'd think feminists would hate troons because it seems exactly like saying "Black people are the best!" and then going on to trash actual black people and treat white dudes in blackface as more legitimate 
<2022-09-06T21:57:05.000Z> Ashalam: They had not thought of that, but when they started to think about it they admitted it was very weird. Laws don't pass that easily or sneakingly.
<2022-09-06T21:58:12.000Z> Ashalam: It goes back to smashing the heterogeneous core-family or whatever it is called in english.
<2022-09-06T21:58:23.000Z> Pissmaster: the "nuclear family"
<2022-09-06T21:58:39.000Z> Pissmaster: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_family
<2022-09-06T21:58:56.000Z> Ashalam: Aah, that's what it is called, I remember now.
<2022-09-06T22:02:46.000Z> Pissmaster: Well, backing troons seems like they're playing with fire.  They've got a populous of very deranged individuals drugging themselves and staying in a 24-hour cycle of stress and self-delusion, often ending in suicide.  If major corporations and governments didn't have their backs so hard, they'd fizzle out in no time, but as foot soldiers, it's incredible how effective they've been in the short term.  But they can't possibly be in the long term, or at least not without a steady stream of new ones coming in to replace the old ones, once they commit suicide or land in jail
<2022-09-06T22:03:26.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah...
<2022-09-06T22:04:34.000Z> Ashalam: Another question I asked the active polfems I knew before the law thing was if a trans-woman representative should always have a say in any women's issues, law or societal. Guess what the response was?
<2022-09-06T22:04:57.000Z> Pissmaster: hopefully no
<2022-09-06T22:06:26.000Z> Ashalam: It was "Yes! No. Wait a minute?"
<2022-09-06T22:07:05.000Z> Ashalam: The current dogma is that they should but when you think about it it becomes absurd. A fraction of a percent of the population should have as much power in society as 50% of the population.
<2022-09-06T22:07:37.000Z> Ashalam: Well, I'm not really here to complain about trannies, I just wanted to say you were the MVP of the games forum.
<2022-09-06T22:08:02.000Z> Ashalam: It was a fun forum.
<2022-09-06T22:09:10.000Z> Pissmaster: oh thank you!
<2022-09-06T22:10:08.000Z> Pissmaster: I joined Kiwi Farms literally because I read on another forum that it's similar to classic Something Awful in terms of attitudes, and not full of consoomers that just heap praise onto whatever new game's getting churned out this week, before moving onto the next one and forgetting the old one ever existed
<2022-09-06T22:10:16.000Z> Pissmaster: like what SA's Games forum turned into around maybe 2010
<2022-09-06T22:11:10.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, I'm an old SA guy as well but that place turned into Marketing Special combined with the clique and elitism. in Kiwi-games or Kiwi-IT it was laid back and fun.
<2022-09-06T22:11:55.000Z> Ashalam: I think at one point EA or Activision admitted to having posters on SA to hype their games. Before guerilla marketing got regulated.
<2022-09-06T22:12:15.000Z> Pissmaster: Oh yeah?  I'm not surprised at all
<2022-09-06T22:12:54.000Z> Pissmaster: One poster I remember in particular was PalletteSwappedNinja, he was the big Nintendo shill who wrote enormous OPs for Nintendo threads and he had to be on their dole.  Never found proof of it, but still
<2022-09-06T22:13:50.000Z> Pissmaster: and then the OP of the Steam thread
<2022-09-06T22:13:57.000Z> Pissmaster: That's something worth making a KF thread over
<2022-09-06T22:14:18.000Z> Ashalam: Huh, don't remember that name. But there were $hills without a doubt, the old style was that they didn't keep pushing the hype after release.
<2022-09-06T22:14:25.000Z> Ashalam: Steam thread? What was up with that?
<2022-09-06T22:14:26.000Z> Pissmaster: before it got pared down, it was like, a perfect and complete wiki of EVERY single aspect of Steam, to the point where goons made fun of the OP for how enormous it was.  it went on for ages
<2022-09-06T22:14:36.000Z> Ashalam: haha
<2022-09-06T22:15:17.000Z> Pissmaster: Original version is probably lost to time, but it was either the work of someone at Valve who decided to write it there rather than their own wiki for some reason, or someone with absolute terminal autism
<2022-09-06T22:15:48.000Z> Ashalam: It can be hard to tell sometime. On a place like SA people wanted to be superstars.
<2022-09-06T22:16:01.000Z> Ashalam: Be made a mod.
<2022-09-06T22:16:50.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, people got careers from just making connections on SA.  Others launched their own, like Mega64 and Yahtzee with Zero Punctuation 
<2022-09-06T22:17:24.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, Lowtax wanted to pay Yahtzee 50 bucks per video or something. The prestige would be that it would be on the front page.
<2022-09-06T22:17:33.000Z> Ashalam: He said no.
<2022-09-06T22:17:34.000Z> Pissmaster: I was kinda hoping for something like that but I was still fairly young at the time, hadn't reached college yet
<2022-09-06T22:17:46.000Z> Pissmaster: Smart.  The front page that nobody actually read
<2022-09-06T22:18:10.000Z> Ashalam: I actually started by reading the front-page then saw that there was a forum.
<2022-09-06T22:19:01.000Z> Ashalam: It's a shame so many of the images have been lost.
<2022-09-06T22:19:46.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, a buddy of mine got me to join SA, it took a while though because lol @ a teenager spending $10 to join a forum, but I did and kept my head down until I could post without getting banned
<2022-09-06T22:20:02.000Z> Pissmaster: Apparently someone kept an archive of everything on Waffleimages at least
<2022-09-06T22:20:38.000Z> Pissmaster: pretty funny to think back on how uploading images to the forum was considered a premium feature.  and you could only have one image per post, and I think it had a strict size limit.  Strict by even like 2002 standards
<2022-09-06T22:21:02.000Z> Pissmaster: 2002 standards being like, 100kb was considered big, despite today when cellphone pictures are like 7mb average
<2022-09-06T22:21:44.000Z> Ashalam: Oh yeah the "not for 56k" thread titles or whatever it was.
<2022-09-06T22:25:27.000Z> Pissmaster: but that's SA, it may as well be gone now, and I'm hoping KF can survive this disaster, or at least come back under a new name.  It's not like anyone involved with KF is gonna commit suicide, we all manage to find each other down the line anyway
<2022-09-06T22:25:53.000Z> Ashalam: oooh, speaking of that, ever been part of any of the SA offshoots?
<2022-09-06T22:26:12.000Z> Pissmaster: Yup, a few
<2022-09-06T22:26:15.000Z> Ashalam: They always splinter in two.
<2022-09-06T22:26:27.000Z> Ashalam: Sometimes three but KiR can fuck off.
<2022-09-06T22:26:57.000Z> Pissmaster: What's KiR?  
<2022-09-06T22:27:42.000Z> Pissmaster: there were a lot of SA splinter sites
<2022-09-06T22:27:51.000Z> Ashalam: Keep it Real, an idiot that posted rap-lyrics to Lowtax who took it as a real threat.
<2022-09-06T22:28:07.000Z> Pissmaster: Oh, I guess I missed that
<2022-09-06T22:28:32.000Z> Ashalam: He started the SMYD forum after... SASS maybe? Or was it TNE?
<2022-09-06T22:30:32.000Z> Pissmaster: That must have been before my time, or at least before I paid any attention to SA offshoots, since I know SoSe was a spinoff of SASS 
<2022-09-06T22:30:41.000Z> Pissmaster: which is also where I heard about KF
<2022-09-06T22:31:33.000Z> Ashalam: SoSe was a spinoff of TNE in a way. SASS begat TNE and MPC(MyPostingCareer) and HanglyMan was eternally sour over NancyBoy choosing that forum over his. Yeah this is as retarded as it sounds.
<2022-09-06T22:32:07.000Z> Pissmaster: yeah that's SA drama for you
<2022-09-06T22:33:40.000Z> Pissmaster: I've lurked on MPC too, didn't participate because it just seemed like a shitload of drama
<2022-09-06T22:34:15.000Z> Ashalam: SA have deep roots so it's always jarring to see it bleed over into the real world. Some news segment called MPC "the Alt-Rights foremost think tank" and jesus, those nutsacks from SASS/SA? Then Kirtaner shows up on TV.
<2022-09-06T22:34:48.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, MPC was tryhard as hell, much like rezzistone or whatever the radical commie equivalent was.
<2022-09-06T22:35:25.000Z> Ashalam: Then Weev changes cloudflares policy and here we are.
<2022-09-06T22:36:32.000Z> Ashalam: Maybe SA was gamergate all along.
<2022-09-06T22:38:45.000Z> Pissmaster: SA certainly seems like a nexus for the beginning of Clown World
<2022-09-06T22:39:18.000Z> Pissmaster: already feeling like i had to tiptoe around the crazier members as far back as 2008
<2022-09-06T22:39:25.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, it's weird.
<2022-09-06T22:39:44.000Z> Ashalam: Oh yeah, there's a reason why people feel like things started changing in 2005-2007.
<2022-09-06T22:39:57.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah?
<2022-09-06T22:42:14.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, there were a lot of GOTIS starting. Before that gender wasn't important when responding to a screen name. Then gender became more important than anything, then there was a number of new trans-women that called themselves "troons" and then that was forbidden.
<2022-09-06T22:42:48.000Z> Ashalam: Forbidden to call them that.
<2022-09-06T22:46:10.000Z> Pissmaster: Oh yeah, no girls on the internet
<2022-09-06T22:47:27.000Z> Pissmaster: I never did find out how there came to be just so many troons online though, like some kind of mass brainwashing happened and I wasn't online that day
<2022-09-06T22:47:51.000Z> Ashalam: I have theories...
<2022-09-06T22:47:59.000Z> Ashalam: From that batch at least.
<2022-09-06T22:48:03.000Z> Ashalam: It's different now.
<2022-09-06T22:48:12.000Z> Pissmaster: What do you think?
<2022-09-06T22:48:54.000Z> Ashalam: Making a male of female character in an MMORPG? Ok, this will take a couple of seconds to write...
<2022-09-06T22:49:32.000Z> Ashalam: I introduced my non-vidya GF to Ultima Online when that game was relevant. To play together and murder people you know.
<2022-09-06T22:50:09.000Z> Ashalam: She made a woman, no questions asked, then dialed-up and tried to figure out how the interface and shit worked. She did not play games.
<2022-09-06T22:50:43.000Z> Ashalam: She was showered in gold and armor, this was at a time when only text-chat existed as well. It made me go "huh".
<2022-09-06T22:51:00.000Z> Ashalam: Then World of Warcraft came along, only text chat as well.
<2022-09-06T22:51:47.000Z> Ashalam: People like Carolyn Petite or whatever he's called has quoted that game for being the game where he realized he was a woman. Still text-chat and female avatar, being showered in gifts.
<2022-09-06T22:53:19.000Z> Ashalam: Some of these people started to go really sour when their identity could be questioned via voice chat in the game, they sound like a man playing a female avatar. Nothing weird with that but... They can't be perceived as men.
<2022-09-06T22:55:29.000Z> Ashalam: Eh, you know.
<2022-09-06T22:56:59.000Z> Pissmaster: Good thinking
<2022-09-06T22:57:00.000Z> Pissmaster: hm
<2022-09-06T22:57:15.000Z> Pissmaster: heh that reminds me of a time when an irl buddy of mine made a girl character in Runescape explicitly to scam dudes
<2022-09-06T22:57:35.000Z> Pissmaster: he made out like a bandit, did it all on purpose, didn't troon out, he was just being a lil' shit lol
<2022-09-06T22:58:14.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, exactly. How would they know and if it's a nerdy dude that gets all this attention why wouldn't he be a woman and get it in real life?
<2022-09-06T22:58:20.000Z> Pissmaster: I couldn't ever bring myself to do that, but that was an early-in-life lesson for me that simps exist, and will cough up cash over the slightest interaction
<2022-09-06T22:58:36.000Z> Ashalam: I think it folds into the "real name" policy of facebook and such.
<2022-09-06T22:58:52.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah. Simps god damnit.
<2022-09-06T22:59:46.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, and I guess they're not bright enough to know that most men can see through the facade and the only people who will simp for them are fetishists
<2022-09-06T22:59:47.000Z> Pissmaster: like lowtax lol
<2022-09-06T22:59:55.000Z> Ashalam: I think you have posted in the SecretGamerGirl thread before but that seems like his origin story.
<2022-09-06T22:59:57.000Z> Pissmaster: who 41'd at 45
<2022-09-06T23:00:17.000Z> Ashalam: Oooh, the TNE memes of Lowtax Chink Wife were great.
<2022-09-06T23:00:57.000Z> Pissmaster: Oh yeah?  I didn't see them, I wasn't on TNE
<2022-09-06T23:01:44.000Z> Ashalam: I'll see if I can find any. You can attach files here, yes?
<2022-09-06T23:05:22.000Z> Pissmaster: in chat?  I dont know
<2022-09-06T23:06:00.000Z> Pissmaster: oh i guess you can https://i.poastcdn.org/e172955e99e090c93a892c8a89abc434235ce869915dae95181981a8126835b8.png
<2022-09-06T23:07:30.000Z> Ashalam: Huh. Where the hell did I put them, my superior file naming system is failing me but I know I posted them on the farms...
<2022-09-06T23:07:35.000Z> Ashalam: hah
<2022-09-06T23:21:53.000Z> Ashalam: I can't find them.
<2022-09-06T23:22:32.000Z> Pissmaster: oh well
<2022-09-06T23:26:12.000Z> Ashalam: yeah.
<2022-09-06T23:33:37.000Z> Ashalam attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/100b2f85b788fb39e69982268c5d97fe012294be7d8b6d1efb6ce4ca6f68edfd.gif
<2022-09-06T23:34:12.000Z> Ashalam: Well I'm going to bed. Be happy! https://i.poastcdn.org/6010abc7b67b2c85df9f557330a1758960046177c89296e82022e8ce2a84f0f0.png
<2022-09-06T23:36:06.000Z> Pissmaster: You too!  Goodnight!
<2022-09-06T23:36:35.000Z> Pissmaster: yeah I havent seen those lol
<2022-09-09T21:23:20.000Z> Ashalam: Yo, pissmaster, try reloading a tab and then the crab-shack tab.
<2022-09-09T21:26:12.000Z> Pissmaster: ?  
<2022-09-09T21:27:00.000Z> Pissmaster: if it's that onion site you posted, it came up as not found for me
<2022-09-09T21:28:01.000Z> Ashalam: what the hell
<2022-09-09T21:28:29.000Z> Ashalam: Eat ass chat function, I wrote a message and now I'm in chat with "you_wanna_suck_bbc"
<2022-09-09T21:28:47.000Z> Pissmaster: how did that happen
<2022-09-09T21:29:03.000Z> Ashalam: No, if you go to the index and click a subforum it seems like on the tor browser it wants you to redirect to that site and warns about sharing logins.
<2022-09-09T21:29:12.000Z> Ashalam: idk, i'm no good at twitter
<2022-09-09T21:30:15.000Z> Ashalam: Tell me if you see the same thing. Not the BBC chat but a warning(if using the TOR browser).
<2022-09-09T21:30:56.000Z> Ashalam: KF is a big get right now and TOR isn't hiding where it comes from...
<2022-09-09T21:31:39.000Z> Pissmaster: Visiting from that uquu...onion address, no it doesn't redirect me to that URL.  Did you click a phishing link or something?
<2022-09-09T21:31:59.000Z> Ashalam: No, all in the onion browser. What are you using?
<2022-09-09T21:32:20.000Z> Pissmaster: Onion browser on Windows
<2022-09-09T21:32:49.000Z> Ashalam: Aah. Ok, I'll show you.
<2022-09-09T21:33:00.000Z> Ashalam attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/b8f30985285b1e18552df29535389436a9a8f025f2f900857b15a5514e22f322.JPG
<2022-09-09T21:34:00.000Z> Pissmaster: What exactly did you click that gave you that?
<2022-09-09T21:34:44.000Z> Ashalam: oooh, it's gone now. I wanted to click the "Linus Media Group" thread in I&T.
<2022-09-09T21:35:21.000Z> Ashalam: Other threads are working now as well...
<2022-09-09T21:35:36.000Z> Pissmaster: Well, I have no clue, I'd assume it's pulling assets from whatever site is behind that other one but it's anyone's guess as to if it's Josh's doing or not
<2022-09-09T21:35:47.000Z> Pissmaster: I've been using kiwifarms.is today anyway
<2022-09-09T21:35:56.000Z> Ashalam: Huh.
<2022-09-09T21:36:40.000Z> Pissmaster: and my reaction to if I got that message would be to shut down the tor browser and just restart it from there, which would wipe my connection from that circuit and just connect to a new one, giving me effectively a different identity
<2022-09-09T21:36:42.000Z> Ashalam: Maybe I'm just paranoid... but the signup page for the farm says "be paranoid".
<2022-09-09T21:36:44.000Z> Pissmaster: until i log in, of course
<2022-09-09T21:38:15.000Z> Pissmaster: yeah, you're right to be cautious 
<2022-09-09T21:39:04.000Z> Ashalam: Yes, but I posted 20-30 minutes ago that they might have got some competent people on the anti-kiwi team. All of this is new, there was a hack by what seems like scrubs a couple of years ago(remember, Pissmaster General?) and at this point... who knows.
<2022-09-09T21:40:45.000Z> Ashalam: Anyway, just wanted to see if anyone else saw it. Have a happy Crab Friday!
<2022-09-09T21:43:41.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, Null stated that the hack was due to him leaving something insecure, and it was more or less his own accident.  It leaked a lot of IP addresses and email addresses, but didn't stop the farms at all, since most of the power users were behind VPNs and used burner emails anyway.  I'm sure that made Josh extra cautious since that was the one and only leak KF ever had afaik
<2022-09-09T21:43:48.000Z> Pissmaster: you too!
<2022-09-09T21:46:11.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah. But the kiwifarms shit now is a very large event, the old hack was whatever exploit some furry could find(maybe) to dox users. It's larger now, it's malicious code levels to be alerted to.
<2022-09-09T21:46:41.000Z> Ashalam: My e-mail leaked during that time but it was a burner, like my name, like everything, but now...
<2022-09-09T21:52:14.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, just, be very careful and you'll be fine.  People buy and sell everything illegal under the sun via TOR, and if world governments aren't able to stop that, troons won't be able to stop you as long as you don't blindly follow phishing links, like what could have possibly been that one TOR address.  
<2022-09-09T21:53:02.000Z> Pissmaster: if someone does slip like, an embedded link into one of their posts, you click it, it takes you to another onion URL that's not uquu....onion and looks like Kiwi Farms, don't log in and you'll be fine. that'd be a classic phishing link
<2022-09-09T21:53:19.000Z> Pissmaster: josh mentioned people trying to log into dormant accounts using weak passwords
<2022-09-09T21:53:39.000Z> Ashalam: Yes, I agree, but KF doesn't exist only on TOR. And I'm not worried about myself, I power level like the best of 'em and I have a great ISP.
<2022-09-09T21:53:53.000Z> Pissmaster: So I'm sure we're gonna see bad guys logging into those, trying to act like they're a part of our community, and post phishing URLs like that
<2022-09-09T21:54:11.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah. I'm worried about other people.
<2022-09-09T21:54:13.000Z> Pissmaster: Oh well thats good
<2022-09-09T21:55:25.000Z> Pissmaster: Well, yeah, the best you can do is warn people.  there will never not be idiots who'll forego your warnings and get themselves into trouble, but that's just part of the situation
<2022-09-09T21:55:41.000Z> Ashalam: I'm perfectly safe, just spergy.
<2022-09-09T21:56:10.000Z> Pissmaster: so am i
<2022-09-09T21:56:27.000Z> Pissmaster: Plus, you say you powerlevel like the best of 'em but I still don't know what country you're in
<2022-09-09T21:56:47.000Z> Pissmaster: i saw you mention germany and iceland earlier so i guess one of those?
<2022-09-09T21:57:02.000Z> Ashalam: You don't? That's like every other post in A&H and 23% of posts in the crab shack.
<2022-09-09T21:57:09.000Z> Ashalam: Oh I edited that one for fun.
<2022-09-09T21:57:16.000Z> Ashalam: Monarchies.
<2022-09-09T21:59:04.000Z> Ashalam: 15% by volume in Games.
<2022-09-09T21:59:36.000Z> Pissmaster: Yup, all I know is that English isn't your first language, even though you write in it better than most Americans
<2022-09-09T21:59:47.000Z> Ashalam: Thank you!
<2022-09-09T21:59:55.000Z> Pissmaster: even understanding slang & shieet nome sane 
<2022-09-09T22:00:29.000Z> Ashalam: I learned it and can't unlearn some things from fucking 8 bit nintendo. That was before we got english lessons.
<2022-09-09T22:01:03.000Z> Pissmaster: Oh, what Nintendo games did you learn from?
<2022-09-09T22:01:05.000Z> Ashalam: I tried to do a gnome saying in the SGG thread.
<2022-09-09T22:01:19.000Z> Pissmaster: and did you understand "nome sane" btw?
<2022-09-09T22:02:13.000Z> Ashalam: Nintendo games that had that odd grammar, making is/are a guesstimation when writing even though I aced our SAT equivalent in English...
<2022-09-09T22:02:32.000Z> Ashalam: (trailer park boys)
<2022-09-09T22:03:54.000Z> Pissmaster: Oh, "nome sane" = "Know what I'm saying"?  in african americna vernacular english, or as real people call it: ebonics
<2022-09-09T22:04:03.000Z> Pissmaster: the negro lexicon if you will
<2022-09-09T22:04:24.000Z> Ashalam: Oh yeah, I know that, haven't you seen trailer park boys? I thought that was a reference to J-Roc
<2022-09-09T22:04:30.000Z> Pissmaster: the vox populi of those of the nigger persuasion
<2022-09-09T22:04:58.000Z> Pissmaster: I've watched a bit, downloaded all of them, and had it backlogged for years because reasons
<2022-09-09T22:06:04.000Z> Pissmaster: But yeah, lol if you're gonna learn ebonics then J-Roc is just as good of a source as any, really
<2022-09-09T22:06:43.000Z> Ashalam: Oh I just thought it was a pop-culture reference to that. Our blacks are different and it is tragic.
<2022-09-09T22:08:14.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah that's how they are, I grew up around them, in a big left-wing American city, one with more blacks than hispanics, so i learned pretty much all of that in elementary school from the negro kids and the white kids who wanted to act like negroes
<2022-09-09T22:08:57.000Z> Pissmaster: How are your blacks different?
<2022-09-09T22:10:16.000Z> Ashalam: They're from Africa. Ghana, Kenya, Gambia, Nigeria, african nations. Also Somalia....
<2022-09-09T22:10:44.000Z> Ashalam: But, woke people see them as african-americans because that's what they know.
<2022-09-09T22:11:26.000Z> Ashalam: And they push that identity, along with the general american cultural export.
<2022-09-09T22:11:57.000Z> Pissmaster: Oh, huh, yeah, African Africans tend to be fine here, they're not usually poisoned by pop culture and consumerism and seem just happy to not be in Africa.  Night and day when compared to American blacks
<2022-09-09T22:12:37.000Z> Ashalam: Well, you're in or adjacent to the burger land, right?
<2022-09-09T22:13:02.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, I've never left the USA.
<2022-09-09T22:14:22.000Z> Ashalam: Aah. Higher standards for immigrants then. What I'm talking about is largely younger dudes, they get a warm welcome but because the woke people(this has been going on for years) don't know anything about Africa they treat them as... niggers. Former slaves, as seen on tv, that's what they know.
<2022-09-09T22:16:06.000Z> Pissmaster attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/b74b91527bc522d8372178e1a9d5af6f8e56bc0ee6e93efabb167df21b97149e.jpg
<2022-09-09T22:16:16.000Z> Pissmaster attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/9a9aa8c96fe574dd48c0272f1f63316056382d66a550dca513094fd72016dc2f.jpeg
<2022-09-09T22:17:00.000Z> Ashalam: Pretty much. While cheering on people losing their culture there are always grifters though.
<2022-09-09T22:18:02.000Z> Pissmaster: Grifters are inevitable, though the baizuo are so insufferable because they're just thoroughly brainwashed 
<2022-09-09T22:18:22.000Z> Ashalam: Agree.
<2022-09-09T22:18:51.000Z> Ashalam: Baizou is a good term.
<2022-09-09T22:19:42.000Z> Ashalam: Here in Europe a person coming directly from africa might be referred to as, and expected to be, "african-american". Not black, not negre...
<2022-09-09T22:19:48.000Z> Pissmaster: The only Chinese loan word I'm aware I know
<2022-09-09T22:20:34.000Z> Ashalam: There was another good chinese loan word that I can't remember, it was "stop and stare" even if it involves someone bleeding to death on the street.
<2022-09-09T22:20:50.000Z> Pissmaster: I only know that as the bystander effect
<2022-09-09T22:21:20.000Z> Ashalam: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umarell
<2022-09-09T22:21:25.000Z> Ashalam: It's something like that.
<2022-09-09T22:21:31.000Z> Ashalam: Except Chinese.
<2022-09-09T22:23:37.000Z> Pissmaster: haha, that's a handy word
<2022-09-09T22:24:21.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, it's like the farms. If they can get it off of the internet no one will be interested, critical or think about it.
<2022-09-09T22:24:58.000Z> Ashalam: It's like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity
<2022-09-09T22:25:09.000Z> Ashalam: If no one has bad words no one can think bad thought.
<2022-09-09T22:25:39.000Z> Ashalam: No one can have ideas above their language.
<2022-09-09T22:27:37.000Z> Ashalam: I did not intend to sperg about the troons... Any good games out there, or shows, movies, music or anything?
<2022-09-09T22:31:21.000Z> Pissmaster: I'm not really into anything new except for that new Beavis & Butthead season, it's hit or miss but more hit than miss
<2022-09-09T22:31:46.000Z> Pissmaster: as for games I've more or less been playing the Yakuza series on and off for like nearly two years now
<2022-09-09T22:32:29.000Z> Ashalam: Yes! I've seen you and others mention Like A Dragon I think? Turn based?
<2022-09-09T22:32:42.000Z> Pissmaster: Yup, I loved it, it's a turn based RPG through and through
<2022-09-09T22:33:20.000Z> Ashalam: That's what I like, I mostly play point and clicks these days because I can take my time and drink tea in the morning.
<2022-09-09T22:33:51.000Z> Pissmaster: In that case Like a Dragon would definitely be better for you, everything else is action based, plays kinda like a beat em up
<2022-09-09T22:34:40.000Z> Pissmaster: it's extremely funny, not woke, and has a pretty good plot
<2022-09-09T22:35:20.000Z> Ashalam: Funny and plot is a big seller. DMC, MGRising and Bayonetta have good humor.
<2022-09-09T22:36:07.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, the sense of humor is somewhat along the lines of those games
<2022-09-09T22:36:49.000Z> Pissmaster: though Yakuza's much more grounded, as it all takes place in the real world and everything supernatural in Like a Dragon is explained by the protagonist having a wild imagination
<2022-09-09T22:37:04.000Z> Ashalam: Huh.
<2022-09-09T22:37:21.000Z> Ashalam: I've played some of the PS2 Yakuza because I liked Shen Mue.
<2022-09-09T22:37:46.000Z> Pissmaster: down to combat being turn based because he grew up playing Dragon Quest and likes to imagine himself as a hero of one of those games, and therefore imagines a turn-based battle when he's actually fighting.   There's a whole scene where he spells all that out
<2022-09-09T22:38:43.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, I was told to try it out if I liked Shenmue a while back and so I bought Yakuza 4 and couldn't get into it at the time, but that was a long while ago, so I'll revisit it eventually
<2022-09-09T22:39:02.000Z> Pissmaster: I can see the comparison but like
<2022-09-09T22:39:33.000Z> Pissmaster: Shenmue appealed to me because of how comfy it was, and you could do absolutely pointless things like bumming around Ryu's house and looking in cabinets 
<2022-09-09T22:39:54.000Z> Pissmaster: There's never been another game like that to my knowledge
<2022-09-09T22:40:38.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, Shenmue was both a walking simulator and a VR game in a way. It had the Virtua Figher 3 fighting engine in it, so it's not like Gone Home.
<2022-09-09T22:41:28.000Z> Ashalam: (VR meaning a virtual reality, no headsets)
<2022-09-09T22:42:14.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, a walking simulator from before that term was coined, and the whole setting was generally happy and peaceful, just kinda capturing an image of what this suburb in Japan was like back in 1986
<2022-09-09T22:42:50.000Z> Ashalam: And subsidized to hell and back.
<2022-09-09T22:43:13.000Z> Pissmaster: Yup
<2022-09-09T22:43:16.000Z> Ashalam: Not subsidized like that, but SEGA spread the costs across different projects.
<2022-09-09T22:44:17.000Z> Pissmaster: and allowed Yu Suzuki way too much power for his massive autism project
<2022-09-09T22:45:00.000Z> Ashalam: Yep, the old number in the Guiness book for the worlds most expensive game is not accurate at all.
<2022-09-09T22:46:28.000Z> Pissmaster: Yeah, but it's a fun story for people who don't care I guess, it's not like anything written on paper has to be accurate anymore apparently
<2022-09-09T22:46:57.000Z> Pissmaster: Alright, i'm gonna go pick up something to eat, i'll be back later
<2022-09-09T22:47:03.000Z> Ashalam: From what I've been told it cost them a quarter of a million dollars from start to finish. But they wrote it off as part of the DC SDK(when it moved from Saturn) etc.
<2022-09-09T22:47:36.000Z> Ashalam: No probs, I'm going to sleep and dream about Ken Kutaragi in Gran Turismo or something...
<2022-09-09T22:47:50.000Z> Ashalam: Didn't mean to take up your time, I'm just like this.
<2022-09-12T23:17:01.000Z> Pissmaster: All good, don't worry about it, I tend to pop in and out of chats anyway
<2022-09-28T06:33:23.000Z> Ashalam: Hey, do you happen to have an invite code for KF? I have no fucking clue what the password to my old e-mail is so re-registering is the only option.
<2022-09-28T16:00:07.000Z> Ashalam: I'm in again, thanks!
<2023-05-08T03:14:47.000Z> Pissmaster: oh sorry, didnt see that until just now
<2023-05-08T17:20:45.000Z> Ashalam: huh, right now I was clicking through profiles I follow here to see if any other kiwis were active, then I saw the chat alert.
<2023-05-08T20:10:57.000Z> Pissmaster: everyone's all displaced and im not sure where everyone is
<2023-05-08T20:11:22.000Z> Pissmaster: should probably check my email address that i posted in Contact Info Exchange
<2023-05-08T20:18:02.000Z> Pissmaster: Oh, there's nothing, nevermind
<2023-05-08T20:18:09.000Z> Ashalam: Aw shit, yeah, I stored all of that in a txt file.
<2023-05-08T20:18:58.000Z> Pissmaster: I figured there'd be an email chain going by now
<2023-05-08T20:19:31.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, something like that. Telegram is a nightmare.
<2023-05-08T20:22:56.000Z> Pissmaster: yeah I barely use it, one misclick and it'll flip my camera & mic on
<2023-05-08T20:24:07.000Z> Ashalam: Yeah, registered the other day and really went "hmm..." going through the settings. Who can see my number: default - anyone.
<2023-05-08T20:24:31.000Z> Pissmaster: yyyup
<2023-05-08T20:24:41.000Z> Ashalam: I don't want to further beat that horse but Telegram is radiating.
<2023-05-08T20:24:49.000Z> Pissmaster: It really is
<2023-05-08T20:25:07.000Z> Pissmaster: Anyone that claims to put privacy first and then asks for a phone number is bad news
<2023-05-08T20:25:24.000Z> Pissmaster: I have no clue why Null insists on using it, even where his updates can't be viewed without an account
<2023-05-08T20:27:00.000Z> Ashalam: Agree. I pontificated about the nature of the farms a couple of months ago, it's a place where you are encouraged to use non-connected e-mails and VPNs. That can really hit jersh hard.
<2023-05-08T20:27:50.000Z> Ashalam: I think that's his achilles heel at this point.
<2023-05-08T20:29:17.000Z> Pissmaster: There also hasn't been an update to KF's warrant canary for a long time
<2023-05-08T20:29:38.000Z> Ashalam: That could be a good thing.
<2023-05-08T20:29:53.000Z> Ashalam: Oddly enough.
<2023-05-08T20:31:06.000Z> Pissmaster: Why?
<2023-05-08T20:31:31.000Z> Pissmaster: archive.is/Ix3n4 nobody's archived it since last august, though I checked it last month and the last transparency notice was in July '22
<2023-05-08T20:31:56.000Z> Ashalam: My "Ben Affleck in a Tom Clancy" scenario is troons spamming pm chains with haram content and then call the feds to take it all down. Sort of like the Reddit strategy.
<2023-05-08T20:32:09.000Z> Pissmaster: Ah, yeah, that makes sense
<2023-05-08T20:32:39.000Z> Ashalam: So who knows.
<2023-05-08T20:33:59.000Z> Ashalam: Crap, I've mostly had this message in the copy-paste for a couple of messages, have you been in contact with any crabbers?
<2023-05-09T01:32:48.000Z> Pissmaster: Nope, I don't know where they are
<2023-05-09T01:33:44.000Z> Pissmaster: I'm in contact with Mrjokerrager and he posted a screenshot of a stray crab on 4chan
<2023-05-09T01:34:01.000Z> Pissmaster attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/55ad77998ac9d661aa9ce77014ac15bc54c4d61305775e6ddecd1ed718a75754.png
<2023-05-09T01:34:10.000Z> Pissmaster: I'll bet that's thegooddoctor