<2023-01-12T04:01:37.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Are you a sedevacantist?
<2023-01-12T04:02:10.000Z> Owl: I'm hardly involved in religion at this juncture in time but I do come from a very firm sedevacantist family.
<2023-01-12T04:02:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Wow, really?
<2023-01-12T04:02:28.000Z> Owl: Yes. Catholics.
<2023-01-12T04:02:31.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm the opposite.
<2023-01-12T04:02:39.000Z> Owl: Oh?
<2023-01-12T04:02:50.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I come from a largely secular family and am now a sedevacantist.
<2023-01-12T04:04:01.000Z> Owl: Well I'm in-between faiths I'll call it. I just realized that I don't even understand the fundamentals of the religion I was proporting to keep. I can't make the claim without the most basic understandings of my family's faith.
<2023-01-12T04:04:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Cradle Catholics often end up lukewarm and lazy about their faith due to never actually having to study it.
<2023-01-12T04:05:05.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm gonna demand that my kids read theology books once I find a good guy.
<2023-01-12T04:05:18.000Z> Owl: A good guy who also reads theology books I take it.
<2023-01-12T04:05:38.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That would be pretty Chad.
<2023-01-12T04:06:01.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: If you wanna study theology, I do keep a list of links of resources on it.
<2023-01-12T04:06:48.000Z> Owl: I do need to actually commit myself to study. Else I'll just keep flirting with burning in Hell forever with Gnosticism.
<2023-01-12T04:08:07.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: You could make a reminder to take a half hour of your time for studying each day.
<2023-01-12T04:08:11.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Maybe at lunch or something.
<2023-01-12T04:08:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Just tell me if you ever want theological reading material and I'll get it for you.
<2023-01-12T04:08:45.000Z> Owl: Entirely. I appreciate the assistance.
<2023-01-12T04:09:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Where ya from?
<2023-01-12T04:12:01.000Z> Owl: No place great. The corrupt Hellhole state of Illinois. You?
<2023-01-12T04:12:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I'm originally from redneck New York but I live in Commierado now.
<2023-01-12T04:13:25.000Z> Owl: Redneck New York is based New York though. Having lived in the city there, it's paradise in comparison.
<2023-01-12T04:13:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Redneck New York is real New York.
<2023-01-12T04:14:02.000Z> Owl: Ah-men.
<2023-01-12T04:15:33.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's beautiful and has very fertile soils. You can great good yields of cool season crops up there. The problem is that the rednecks are neglected, and end up being subject to the kikery of the worst people in the state. NYC should be forcefully annexed by New Jersey.
<2023-01-12T04:16:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It'd be more like Idaho or Montana if the rednecks had their way.
<2023-01-12T04:16:33.000Z> Owl: NYC should be subject to another hurricane, a la Sandy. The rednecks could have their fill then.
<2023-01-12T04:17:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Mm, don't say that. You're tempting me to wish bad things on those people.
<2023-01-12T04:18:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It kinda hurts, knowing that my home state sucks because of its kike laws even though it's otherwise more or less perfect.
<2023-01-12T04:19:04.000Z> Owl: Trust me. They deserve it for even keeping the construct going. What can you do? Every place would be perfect without all of it. In every city it's the same. New York? Chicago? Boston? It's all trash.
<2023-01-12T04:19:25.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Non-Whites are the main problem.
<2023-01-12T04:19:47.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also liberals. But liberals invite non-Whites and then the place turns to crap.
<2023-01-12T04:20:33.000Z> Owl: Who'd have thought?
<2023-01-12T04:21:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Do you like documentaries?
<2023-01-12T04:21:14.000Z> Owl: All the time.
<2023-01-12T04:22:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL57857981F3CC5D78
<2023-01-12T04:23:09.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That's a 13 half-hour-ish episode of a documentary series that discusses how the Catholic Church unironically built Western Civilization.
<2023-01-12T04:24:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: To see the fruits of the Church via that documentary series made me want to convert because I knew, even when I was an agnostic, that you'll know a prophet by his fruits.
<2023-01-12T04:25:17.000Z> Owl: Good fruits are made by good trees after all.
<2023-01-12T04:25:28.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Yup.
<2023-01-12T04:25:53.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And Western Civilization is one of the greatest fruits ever born.
<2023-01-12T04:26:38.000Z> Owl: I think it's too late to save now personally. I think we're reaching entropy. That's just me. Many others are likely more optimistic.
<2023-01-12T04:27:10.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It's not at all too late to save.
<2023-01-12T04:27:17.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I've seen some good signs.
<2023-01-12T04:27:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: People are starting to question things more.
<2023-01-12T04:27:40.000Z> Owl: The Noticing last year was excellent.
<2023-01-12T04:28:08.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And also, Bill Gates hasn't bought up all of the farmland yet.
<2023-01-12T04:28:33.000Z> Owl: "Yet."
<2023-01-12T04:28:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: He'll try but that doesn't mean that we can't do anything.
<2023-01-12T04:29:19.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Francis' blatant heresy have made sedevacantism gain more members too.
<2023-01-12T04:29:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Based folks gotta get that farmland before Bill Gates does.
<2023-01-12T04:29:50.000Z> Owl: Based folks have to work together then.
<2023-01-12T04:30:18.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Absolutely.
<2023-01-12T04:30:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: And they gotta make new based folks from scratch. Alot.
<2023-01-12T04:30:58.000Z> Owl: Especially since the vax, and especially since well. The institutions.
<2023-01-12T04:31:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Spain was under Islamic rule for 7 centuries and they took it back.
<2023-01-12T04:31:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Also, consider that liberals tend to breed less than right-leaning folks.
<2023-01-12T04:31:23.000Z> Owl: Islamic rule was nothing like what we have now. As Johnny says, Zionist Devil Machine.
<2023-01-12T04:31:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know how to end it.
<2023-01-12T04:31:56.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I concocted a plan by analyzing the Rothschilds' strategy.
<2023-01-12T04:33:22.000Z> Owl: Keep that under your hat, unlike the retards illegally carrying guns for their gang war nonsense, I feel like someone hired by the Rothschilds might be able to actually aim and murder me easily.
<2023-01-12T04:36:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Basically, White sedevacantist reactionaries gotta move somewhere that has very lenient gun laws, very lenient vaccine laws, very lenient homeschooling laws, very lenient vaccine laws, and has a largely White population; they gotta start homesteading there, become self-sufficient, have alots of guns and ammo and training on how to use it, breed like rabbits, raise their kids to be very devout sedevcantists, and keep multiplying and staying self-sufficient throughout the generations.
<2023-01-12T04:37:51.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: With enough numbers, they can take over a state or a region, or they can destroy the Federal Reserve, and ultimately have their leader declare themselves the new monarch.
<2023-01-12T04:38:46.000Z> Owl: You mean like say, Mennonites or Amish?
<2023-01-12T04:38:49.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The jews got into positions of power because the protestants held the door open for them, whereas the Catholic Church kept them out.
<2023-01-12T04:39:16.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: Something like that, although ideally it'd result in the conquering of the entire country.
<2023-01-12T04:40:15.000Z> Owl: That is a huge goal.
<2023-01-12T04:40:58.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I know, but if the Rothschilds could take over multi-generationally like that then I don't see why I couldn't found a clan that can pull it off.
<2023-01-12T04:42:39.000Z> Owl: Your clan is way too strict on very specific belief systems I think.
<2023-01-12T04:51:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The Catholic Church built Western Civilization so Catholicism is necessary in order to save the West, or to at least save a town or county from the NWO.
<2023-01-12T04:53:20.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: That’s one of the reasons why my clan must be devout sedevacantists.
<2023-01-12T06:23:56.000Z> Owl: That person. EightEight.
<2023-01-12T06:24:35.000Z> Owl: You shouldn't have to watch a video. I don't do the "argue with the video" thing. If people can't summarize it in their own words then it's not their argument. Fuck that. Imagine watching a video as an introduction to an argument.
<2023-01-12T06:24:43.000Z> Owl: Debates would have the runtime of Titanic.
<2023-01-12T06:28:12.000Z> Owl: His insistence on you watching it is ridiculous. I'm not hinging any understanding on watching a video.
<2023-01-12T06:28:55.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I would say that the proper way to present an argument is to give a short version and then provide your interlocutor a reference to the longer version should they be interested in checking your references and whatnot.
<2023-01-12T06:29:45.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: There may be exceptions to this in some instances, but I think that probably should be the standard.
<2023-01-12T06:30:19.000Z> Owl: I would say as much.
<2023-01-12T06:31:03.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It just seems rude to tell someone to watch a 2 1/2 hour long video instead of just summarizing whatever their point is and then letting their interlocutor view the video to check as a reference.
<2023-01-12T06:31:42.000Z> Owl: It shows a lack of confidence in their argument too. By the time you were to actually buy into watching the video, the debate would have long since cooled.
<2023-01-12T06:32:24.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It seems rude to call someone intellectually lazy and get all mad at them for not watching it.
<2023-01-12T06:32:59.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: personally, I like to have a taste of what my interlocutor has to say and then choose to look more into it rather than just diving into the whole thing without knowing what I’m looking at.
<2023-01-12T06:33:29.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’s sort of like how there probably aren’t many people who read a book without having some sort of description of what it’s about.
<2023-01-12T06:33:39.000Z> Owl: I think the back-and-forth is tired at this point given what has gone on.
<2023-01-12T06:34:26.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: It’s really annoying when people make strawman arguments.
<2023-01-12T06:35:06.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: The dude didn’t even listen to what I said, and what I said it’s not only very simple but I have the references to back it up if he or anyone wanted to see.
<2023-01-12T06:35:41.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I think that it has been my experience that people don’t even want to see references unless they actually ask for it, and it seems like they’re more likely to listen if you don’t provide references until they ask for it. I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong.
<2023-01-12T06:36:00.000Z> Owl: Unfortunately for anybody ever, the people around are part of the argument. The debating parties aren't the only ones involved, and it seems he doesn't understand that. "Watch a two hour video" doesn't convince anyone.
<2023-01-12T06:36:04.000Z> Owl: Right.
<2023-01-12T06:36:54.000Z> Lady_Euromutt@nicecrew.digital: I think that I am an exception to that though because I personally tend to appreciate when people provide references without me having to ask, assuming that they summarize their point.