<2023-01-25T14:23:42.000Z> CatLord: i will send you a photo of my tabbies
<2023-01-25T14:23:59.000Z> CatLord: im worried about them being doxed so i dont poast them publicly LOL
<2023-01-25T14:24:30.000Z> MyLittleFashy: i.poastcdn.org/de05a9f99a2e154a4879013a54369b16e08f7f689385636a0188e6516acbe22c.jpg
<2023-01-25T14:24:50.000Z> MyLittleFashy: i.poastcdn.org/c78559d8090f118261edc3834a47a99a2b70921697713f34a4fdad10c19d35a8.jpg
<2023-01-25T14:25:05.000Z> MyLittleFashy: damn, the chat did not expand the URLs :P
<2023-01-25T14:25:33.000Z> CatLord: its fine i can view them
<2023-01-25T14:25:41.000Z> CatLord: i think you already showed me these photos!
<2023-01-25T14:25:58.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Yeah, it IS slightly doxy, but what the hell
<2023-01-25T14:28:02.000Z> MyLittleFashy: My brother used to have a breeding farm, so I got two queens that were removed from breeding for medical reasons. Which is why I have such competition grade cats, I don't do cat fancy stuff at all, but it's nice that they are pretty ^^
<2023-01-25T14:28:25.000Z> CatLord attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/afc504b13db9f69f4a141e228881fa1675cb4776aced5cc09b32b55f2bb24685.png
<2023-01-25T14:28:59.000Z> CatLord attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/68b78575fa4411328c439fa96dae41ef63880feaf98f7779314fc240c6f6f646.png
<2023-01-25T14:29:26.000Z> CatLord attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/70d6eaa00d06fa3bb0e2eec50a1aa134da1c469d5b0516ea0acc238c7077c46d.jpg
<2023-01-25T14:29:37.000Z> MyLittleFashy: damn, I'm such a sucker for cat pics...
<2023-01-25T14:29:42.000Z> CatLord: haha
<2023-01-25T14:30:00.000Z> CatLord: its cool your brother was a breeder
<2023-01-25T14:30:21.000Z> CatLord: bengals are very cool looking
<2023-01-25T14:30:37.000Z> CatLord: these ones i got from an adoption centre 2 months ago
<2023-01-25T14:30:54.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Yeah, and they are so friendly, they are the kind of cats that will follow you around.
<2023-01-25T14:31:34.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Great with kids, but I would'nt recommand them to people who don't WFH or have a family, they'd get bored to death.
<2023-01-25T14:32:36.000Z> CatLord: are they still young? these ones are very active and need a lot of attention, even though they play with each other often
<2023-01-25T14:33:06.000Z> MyLittleFashy: My brother had a savanah F2 and she was even more social, but a little bit to possesive and agressive towards other cats
<2023-01-25T14:34:30.000Z> MyLittleFashy: They are 7, they play less hard than they used to, but it's still impressive to see them jump and growl, you can have glimpses of the asiatic panther cat in them ^^
<2023-01-25T14:36:38.000Z> CatLord: Yeah, we took these to the vet recently and the boy was very very upset. He was growling and hissing and ended up yowling and screaming. You can really see the wild animal in them when they do that, even though these are just 100% domestic cats, as far as I know. It's actually quite scary lol.
<2023-01-25T14:37:53.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Yeah, the savannah actually roared at intruders ^^
<2023-01-25T14:38:39.000Z> CatLord: Do you have other pics of them?
<2023-01-25T14:39:27.000Z> MyLittleFashy: a few, they are hard to take pictures of (and I'm not really a pictures guy !)
<2023-01-25T14:40:49.000Z> CatLord: You're older aren't you? From what I remember of what you posted on BANG, you're like in your 50's yeah? I'm only 30 so everyone in my generation uses cameras or phones heaps. 
<2023-01-25T14:41:10.000Z> CatLord: It's nice at least that I can send the pictures to friends or my grandmothers.
<2023-01-25T14:41:12.000Z> MyLittleFashy: late 40's
<2023-01-25T14:41:25.000Z> CatLord: Ah, ok
<2023-01-25T14:41:40.000Z> MyLittleFashy: my phone is actually trying to upload right now...
<2023-01-25T14:42:00.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I assume poast is doing the dedoxing thing to the pictures and it takes time !
<2023-01-25T14:42:54.000Z> CatLord: I didn't even know there was any such protection. 
<2023-01-25T14:44:22.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Yeah, it removes the metadata
<2023-01-25T14:44:48.000Z> MyLittleFashy attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/d46ea415021711cd3c92113a4e5545baf5389d6ad523be2a8c0d3fbec1ba3488.jpeg
<2023-01-25T14:45:41.000Z> CatLord: Lovely brown colours
<2023-01-25T14:45:44.000Z> MyLittleFashy attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/d77020ed28611b50a90d049ff37fc8430f17781ab530163867aa72025b7530e3.jpeg
<2023-01-25T14:46:39.000Z> CatLord: It's a very cool coat pattern, and the ring under the eye is very exotic
<2023-01-25T14:46:58.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Yeah, winter, the snow leopard one has blue eyes, which does create weird effects.
<2023-01-25T14:50:34.000Z> CatLord: I would really like to have a panther. Have you seen that South African guy who plays with lots of different big cats? He has lions too.
<2023-01-25T14:55:45.000Z> MyLittleFashy: The scratching pads alone are too big for dense habitation ;-)
<2023-01-25T14:57:30.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Nearest "domestic" thing you can have in a big house is probably a serval
<2023-01-25T14:57:54.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Or a hyena if in Africa, hyenas are a very underappreciated cat
<2023-01-25T14:58:36.000Z> CatLord: hyenas are canines!
<2023-01-25T14:58:52.000Z> CatLord: WAIT WHAT
<2023-01-25T14:58:57.000Z> CatLord: IT SAYS THEYRE FELIFORMS
<2023-01-25T14:59:00.000Z> CatLord: HOLY SHIT
<2023-01-25T14:59:05.000Z> MyLittleFashy: So does everybody think, they are cats who evolved in parallel ^^
<2023-01-25T14:59:29.000Z> MyLittleFashy: And got the same ecological niche as canines
<2023-01-25T14:59:56.000Z> MyLittleFashy: They are actually pretty tameable
<2023-01-25T15:00:09.000Z> MyLittleFashy: As pack animals tend to be
<2023-01-25T15:00:41.000Z> MyLittleFashy: If they were anywere else than... well africa, we would have tamed them a long time ago
<2023-01-25T15:03:29.000Z> CatLord: Yes, I've seen videos of them with humans being very friendly. It makes sense that they are cats. It's just kind of shocking to me lol. I always disliked them because they hunt in a cowardly way and the way they laugh is annoying. But if they're cats, I suppose I should learn to like them...
<2023-01-25T15:04:19.000Z> MyLittleFashy: They are tiny little things for their continent, everything they kill is huge compared to them, so yeah, they hunt like wolves, but don't have the same image for reasons ^^
<2023-01-25T15:05:15.000Z> MyLittleFashy: And the laugh is annoying, but once you have had a human baby, the cat's mawling stops being cute too.
<2023-01-25T15:05:25.000Z> MyLittleFashy: :D
<2023-01-25T15:05:30.000Z> CatLord: hahaha
<2023-01-25T15:06:09.000Z> CatLord: By the way, you have posted many interesting things, here on poast and on BANG. Would you be interested in voice calling some time? I'd like to talk to you more at length
<2023-01-25T15:06:39.000Z> CatLord: ive talk to a few people on poast 
<2023-01-25T15:06:40.000Z> MyLittleFashy: My oral english is less fluid than written since I don't speak often, but sure, why not.
<2023-01-25T15:06:44.000Z> CatLord: talked*
<2023-01-25T15:06:49.000Z> CatLord: awesome!
<2023-01-25T15:07:07.000Z> CatLord: I use discord. Can you use that?
<2023-01-25T15:07:52.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I could, but I do my utmost to isolate my discord use from anything edgy :D
<2023-01-25T15:08:19.000Z> MyLittleFashy: We should check if the poast matrix server has audio, it probably does !
<2023-01-25T15:08:29.000Z> CatLord: Oh sure
<2023-01-25T15:08:37.000Z> CatLord: I don't know how to use matrix but I can try
<2023-01-25T15:08:43.000Z> CatLord: I'm using manjaro, an Arch distro
<2023-01-25T15:09:00.000Z> CatLord: SO I should be able to use matrix on this machine
<2023-01-25T15:09:19.000Z> MyLittleFashy: It's got a web client (and the heavy client is the web client packaged with electron anyways)
<2023-01-25T15:09:23.000Z> MyLittleFashy: so yeah
<2023-01-25T15:09:59.000Z> CatLord: Send me a link and I'll try it
<2023-01-25T15:10:20.000Z> MyLittleFashy: matrix.poast.org/
<2023-01-25T15:11:00.000Z> MyLittleFashy: there are "audio" settings in the client, I assume it works, never really tried, but hey, graf put in the work, let's use it !
<2023-01-25T15:15:33.000Z> CatLord: just making account
<2023-01-25T15:16:31.000Z> MyLittleFashy: yeah, it's not linked to the poast account, there are limits to single dude hero social platform building ^^
<2023-01-25T15:18:45.000Z> CatLord: @batlord:poa.st
<2023-01-25T15:19:04.000Z> CatLord: can you add my account? idk how this platform works at all lol
<2023-01-28T19:41:13.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Yeah, learn from the pros, machining plutonium killed a lot of men, building the first bombs was hardcore…
<2023-01-28T19:59:03.000Z> CatLord: the cowboy shit they did with the manhattan project is insane
<2023-01-28T19:59:15.000Z> CatLord: like that jew who was nakedly handling the devil core
<2023-01-28T19:59:26.000Z> CatLord: anyway actual sleep time now gnite
<2023-03-22T18:59:23.000Z> CatLord: come disc
<2023-03-22T19:00:09.000Z> MyLittleFashy: on a limited laptop actually, not on my workstation :D
<2023-03-22T19:02:56.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I'll be online tomorrow ^^
<2023-03-22T19:04:16.000Z> CatLord: kk
<2023-03-22T19:06:34.000Z> CatLord: i want to vent about this guy
<2023-03-22T19:07:06.000Z> CatLord: i remember going through all this stuff ~8 years ago when i first became interested in european prehistory and bloodlines and such
<2023-03-22T19:07:29.000Z> CatLord: and one of the first things that became obvious is that people make up their own headcanon regarding this stuff or attach heaps of ego to one particular idea
<2023-03-22T19:07:32.000Z> MyLittleFashy: yeah, it's the problem with race science being mostly verboten, you get a lot of weirdos
<2023-03-22T19:07:40.000Z> CatLord: theres so much nonsense in this field particularly
<2023-03-22T19:07:54.000Z> CatLord: ive seen people say that all europeans descend from the Slavs
<2023-03-22T19:08:23.000Z> CatLord: i was saying to my friend yesterday, it's a category error on par with saying all birds are seagulls
<2023-03-22T19:08:36.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Yeah, same issue, of taking maps of migrations where each pixel took longer than the whole of known history
<2023-03-22T19:08:48.000Z> CatLord: hahaha yeah
<2023-03-22T19:08:48.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and mapping those to current national boundaries
<2023-03-22T19:09:34.000Z> CatLord: i still think we can get good information from combining modern archaeology, genetics, and historical accounts - but you need to be aware of how vague the starting picture is or only using one marker is
<2023-03-22T19:09:57.000Z> MyLittleFashy: in his case, if he's an angloisraelite type, he probably thinks earth is 4000 years old anyways...
<2023-03-22T19:10:13.000Z> CatLord: lol yes, i think in his case it is israelitism or something
<2023-03-22T19:10:26.000Z> MyLittleFashy: But will certainly cherry pick data that serves him even if people date it like in -30000 :D
<2023-03-22T19:11:14.000Z> CatLord: why you on laptop today?
<2023-03-22T19:11:16.000Z> CatLord: out and about?
<2023-03-22T19:11:54.000Z> MyLittleFashy: yeah, did so transport of protestors yesterday and today, because well, I can't walk but I can drive :D
<2023-03-22T19:12:27.000Z> MyLittleFashy: But the unions are bringing the big guns starting tomorrow, so I'll be back in the pod :P
<2023-03-22T19:15:11.000Z> CatLord: nice
<2023-03-22T19:15:28.000Z> CatLord: is there good video of the protests?
<2023-03-22T19:16:02.000Z> MyLittleFashy: there must be, including from actual journalists because even them are divided on this thing
<2023-03-22T19:16:23.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Hell, HOLLANDE even said he supported the protests :D
<2023-03-22T19:16:39.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Damn, even that bitch Hidalgo (the current Paris maire) did
<2023-03-22T19:16:48.000Z> MyLittleFashy: that's how much people hate macron :P
<2023-03-22T19:18:44.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Macron basically is doing the bit that the neoliberal right did before, but without a power base that actually... well, actually voted FOR him
<2023-03-22T19:18:52.000Z> MyLittleFashy: they just voted "I'm afraid of extremists"
<2023-03-22T19:20:15.000Z> MyLittleFashy: And, well, even the worst of the RPR rightoids were afraid of going too far and creating social strife, so they were playing it slow
<2023-03-22T19:20:21.000Z> MyLittleFashy: he's going full retard :P
<2023-03-22T19:21:44.000Z> MyLittleFashy: And the RPR neolib types at least were consistent, they were not financing a proxy world war at the same time they were saying the state had to reduce its budget :P
<2023-03-22T19:27:25.000Z> CatLord: do you think this is the end of macron?
<2023-03-22T19:27:29.000Z> CatLord: idk if france has term limits
<2023-03-22T19:27:36.000Z> CatLord: but if it does, maybe he does this as last hurrah
<2023-03-22T19:27:46.000Z> MyLittleFashy: yeah, he cannot run again anyways
<2023-03-22T19:28:11.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and it's not really about budget IMHO and actually has some good reasons to be done
<2023-03-22T19:28:28.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but hey, he did'nt even try explaining himself, so I wont
<2023-03-22T19:28:39.000Z> CatLord: you think it is about breaking the popular will or someshit>
<2023-03-22T19:29:03.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I think it's deeply about productivity
<2023-03-22T19:29:33.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and a deal he had to make with financial powers in exchange for getting -some- reindustrialisation going
<2023-03-22T19:30:13.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but hey, if that's the case, he could just... you know, explain that to the unions :P
<2023-03-22T19:30:38.000Z> CatLord: what are his statements on it?
<2023-03-22T19:30:56.000Z> MyLittleFashy: There IS a deep undercurrent of reindustrialisation going in France and Germany, which the US does'nt really like, but it's not like it's their priority
<2023-03-22T19:31:03.000Z> MyLittleFashy: his statements are budgetary bullcrap
<2023-03-22T19:31:35.000Z> CatLord: i doubt global finance in general (kikes) like reindustrialisation of europe
<2023-03-22T19:31:58.000Z> MyLittleFashy: they were barely credible in the past, they have zero credibility after giving billions directly to Ukraine, and actually losing more like hundreds of billions due to the effects of the sanctions
<2023-03-22T19:32:01.000Z> MyLittleFashy: they don't
<2023-03-22T19:32:39.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but it seems that it's not as much their prority to stop it by any means as it used to be
<2023-03-22T19:32:51.000Z> MyLittleFashy: probably because they are seeing china not going the way they expected
<2023-03-22T19:32:52.000Z> CatLord: interesting
<2023-03-22T19:33:08.000Z> CatLord: what do u think about india
<2023-03-22T19:33:20.000Z> CatLord: wrt to the same question of industry and shit
<2023-03-22T19:33:21.000Z> MyLittleFashy: As a funny detail, while people were on the brink of going hand to hand combat in the assembly
<2023-03-22T19:33:24.000Z> MyLittleFashy: the SAME DAY
<2023-03-22T19:33:25.000Z> CatLord: and political control by the west
<2023-03-22T19:33:35.000Z> MyLittleFashy: they voted the renuclearisation of france
<2023-03-22T19:33:48.000Z> CatLord: woo
<2023-03-22T19:33:49.000Z> MyLittleFashy: With both the tankies and the natios voting with macron :P
<2023-03-22T19:34:18.000Z> MyLittleFashy: There he had zero issue getting a majority, and it went very discreetly
<2023-03-22T19:35:01.000Z> MyLittleFashy: India is weird, there are two Indias, at least two
<2023-03-22T19:35:17.000Z> MyLittleFashy: much more so than with china, where it's one weird country with multiple elites
<2023-03-22T19:36:00.000Z> MyLittleFashy: in india you really have a few high tech hyperadvanced (aka near-to-european) universities and national science programs
<2023-03-22T19:36:12.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and ... an ocean of street shitters around it
<2023-03-22T19:37:03.000Z> MyLittleFashy: in a way they are more advanced than china, but only in those small enclaves
<2023-03-22T19:37:29.000Z> CatLord: the existential pain of those elite indians must be intense
<2023-03-22T19:38:08.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I often wonder if their plan is not to rush the space tech tree and abandon their shit continent :D
<2023-03-22T19:38:19.000Z> MyLittleFashy: because it sounds stupid, but it LOOKS LIKE IT
<2023-03-22T19:38:46.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and of course abandon 99.9% of their population in the same move
<2023-03-22T19:39:14.000Z> MyLittleFashy: It does give them an impressive navy tbh
<2023-03-22T19:39:48.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I'd rate it slightly under the Japs, French and English in technical capabilities
<2023-03-22T19:40:06.000Z> MyLittleFashy: (I don't rate the USN that high either, but they have VOLUME to compensate)
<2023-03-22T19:40:42.000Z> MyLittleFashy: But for example, the Indian navy is actually more frightening than the Chinese
<2023-03-22T19:40:55.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and once your country knew that :P
<2023-03-22T19:41:18.000Z> MyLittleFashy: They originally did'nt want the F-35 because it could not reach the indian ocean
<2023-03-22T19:41:36.000Z> MyLittleFashy: But now it's all about china, china, china...
<2023-03-22T19:41:55.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Who have zero naval tradition and shitty sailors :D
<2023-03-22T19:53:00.000Z> CatLord: does germany have the same politically independent technocrat class as france seems to?
<2023-03-22T19:53:49.000Z> MyLittleFashy: sure looks like it because right now, our diplomats are fighting their diplomats because we want nukes to be counted as green, and they want ICE engines to stay legal :D
<2023-03-22T19:54:02.000Z> MyLittleFashy: So if people are smart about it, we should have both
<2023-03-22T19:54:44.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Especially since, well, it's german cars, they will run on nuke-produced methanol as well as on gazoline :D
<2023-03-22T19:55:10.000Z> CatLord: but there is so much of that green shit in germany
<2023-03-22T19:55:14.000Z> MyLittleFashy: (That is a slight exageration, methanol is less energy dense than gaz, but it's still a lot better than batteries )
<2023-03-22T19:55:46.000Z> MyLittleFashy: yeah, but their technostructure knows that it was a "rich nation's luxury"
<2023-03-22T19:56:04.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and with the russia crap, well, they can't afford the most stupid parts
<2023-03-22T19:56:34.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I'm not saying they will rollback everything
<2023-03-22T19:56:58.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but they are starting to negociate from a position that is actually rational
<2023-03-22T19:57:01.000Z> CatLord: i dont see how reindustrialisation can happen without political changes as well
<2023-03-22T19:57:19.000Z> CatLord: i mean the anti-white shit
<2023-03-22T19:57:25.000Z> MyLittleFashy: They are trying to do it with a minimum of changes
<2023-03-22T19:57:46.000Z> MyLittleFashy: The overt antiwhite shit actually was rolledback by macron
<2023-03-22T19:58:01.000Z> CatLord: i cant imagine it in the anglosphere
<2023-03-22T19:58:11.000Z> CatLord: they are so rabidly insane
<2023-03-22T19:58:15.000Z> CatLord: the managerial class
<2023-03-22T19:58:30.000Z> CatLord: look at the national reaction to the march in melbourne recently
<2023-03-22T19:58:36.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I'm not being Richard Spencer and claiming he's hitler or anything, but it does look like the people behind him are ... more rational
<2023-03-22T19:58:41.000Z> CatLord: 20 blokes throw up their arms and the media and political class goes into overdrive
<2023-03-22T19:59:16.000Z> MyLittleFashy: TBH that's exactly what we wanted them to do, no ? :D
<2023-03-22T19:59:37.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but yeah, I get you meaning, they are rabid
<2023-03-22T19:59:43.000Z> CatLord: well yes but it means they are not very adaptive when it comes to actually ruling
<2023-03-22T19:59:59.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I don't know how much of it is the media and how much is the actual technostructure
<2023-03-22T20:00:37.000Z> CatLord: what i mean is that it may get in the way, when there are attempts to change things by more sound practical people
<2023-03-22T20:00:37.000Z> MyLittleFashy: honnestly the anglo media never came down from their WW2 high :P
<2023-03-22T20:01:16.000Z> MyLittleFashy: yeah, I'm sure it will, but I have to wonder how influential they really are
<2023-03-22T20:02:02.000Z> MyLittleFashy: It's not like the french media was'nt 95% openly behind macron when he was running against Le Pen
<2023-03-22T20:02:52.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but that did'nt transfer into votes, and now they basically HAVE to give her a voice because they would look so stupid if they did'nt
<2023-03-22T20:03:18.000Z> MyLittleFashy: As always, not saying she is better than she is, but **they** think she's hitler :D
<2023-03-22T20:04:10.000Z> MyLittleFashy: A lot of those rabid shitlibs are only antifa-adjacent when it's the easiest path for them
<2023-03-22T20:04:27.000Z> MyLittleFashy: there are indeologically commited antifas, don't get me wrong
<2023-03-22T20:04:46.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but they are a minority, most are just doing the bit because it's what they are supposed to do
<2023-03-22T20:04:53.000Z> CatLord: well idk if the sound minds have political power here lol
<2023-03-22T20:05:07.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and the day that the political changes even a slight bit, they align
<2023-03-22T20:05:11.000Z> CatLord: the insane followers, shitlibs and antifa types are only one element
<2023-03-22T20:05:26.000Z> MyLittleFashy: yeah, the actual technostructure itself, I have no idea
<2023-03-22T20:05:42.000Z> CatLord: theres also the actual managerial class which appears to be quite vindictive and poorly run
<2023-03-22T20:06:18.000Z> CatLord: i think in france, from what you've told me, the political shit doesnt penetrate to the same level of the actual operation of the country
<2023-03-22T20:06:34.000Z> MyLittleFashy: yeah, not really, it does but it takes generations 
<2023-03-22T20:06:35.000Z> CatLord: here, i do not know for sure, but based on the national character, i would guess it is worse
<2023-03-22T20:06:36.000Z> MyLittleFashy: not years
<2023-03-22T20:07:21.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I think we are actually protected by the fact that we had a very strong state, and strong states need a massive technostructure
<2023-03-22T20:08:07.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Anglos having gone for economic liberalism a lot harder, they actually -can- have incompetent people in the state apparatus for a lot longer without it being fatal :D
<2023-03-22T20:08:34.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Because a lot more of the state is privatized
<2023-03-22T20:08:39.000Z> CatLord: yeah there's this pervasive laziness and incompetence and malice 
<2023-03-22T20:09:01.000Z> MyLittleFashy: so the competent and relativly apolitical technostructure probably exists, 
<2023-03-22T20:09:08.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but in big private compagnies
<2023-03-22T20:10:00.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Here, I realized today how different it was when I heard about the epic amount of planning that the unions were doing for next week
<2023-03-22T20:10:22.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Like "ok ,how do we shut it down but keep the lights on for the people, and ensure food arrives"
<2023-03-22T20:10:55.000Z> MyLittleFashy: And I suddently thought "how the fuck would americans even start doing a general strike without killing millions..."
<2023-03-22T20:12:28.000Z> MyLittleFashy: You would have to basically let the big corporations ignore the strike if they are the ones responsible for basic necessities
<2023-03-22T20:12:38.000Z> MyLittleFashy: because if you shut THEM down, people die
<2023-03-22T20:13:12.000Z> CatLord: there is basically no labour power in the US
<2023-03-22T20:13:18.000Z> CatLord: i hope the NJP is able to partly fix that
<2023-03-22T20:13:31.000Z> CatLord: but talking about strikes happening at all to effect some big change
<2023-03-22T20:13:32.000Z> MyLittleFashy: so basically, .... you can't really do a general strike (I take the US as an example because it's the anglos I know, I assume Australia is managed in kinda the same way)
<2023-03-22T20:13:47.000Z> CatLord: look at the rail unions with that recent shit where they have no sick days and stuff
<2023-03-22T20:14:04.000Z> CatLord: and they are forbidden by the govt from striking, and they actually obey the restriction
<2023-03-22T20:14:06.000Z> CatLord: that is insane
<2023-03-22T20:14:08.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Yeah, that's crazy
<2023-03-22T20:14:21.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I mean, there are requisitions here, of course
<2023-03-22T20:14:45.000Z> MyLittleFashy: you can't really stop running water or stop managing the nuke plants
<2023-03-22T20:15:17.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but the people who are requisitionned are still registered as "striking"
<2023-03-22T20:15:27.000Z> CatLord: haha really?
<2023-03-22T20:15:29.000Z> CatLord: thats good
<2023-03-22T20:15:32.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and they basically bring their own "striking" management
<2023-03-22T20:15:36.000Z> CatLord: solidarity even among the ones who are working
<2023-03-22T20:15:51.000Z> MyLittleFashy: And provide only the public service part
<2023-03-22T20:16:01.000Z> MyLittleFashy: usually waiving any fees for example
<2023-03-22T20:16:11.000Z> MyLittleFashy: if a nuke plant is "stiking"
<2023-03-22T20:16:14.000Z> MyLittleFashy: it's still running
<2023-03-22T20:16:20.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but the electricity s free :D
<2023-03-22T20:16:41.000Z> MyLittleFashy: so nobody can make a profit
<2023-03-22T20:17:10.000Z> MyLittleFashy: same happened for the garbage in paris
<2023-03-22T20:17:34.000Z> MyLittleFashy: of course there was some requisition, but they basically would only take crap that was dangerous to health
<2023-03-22T20:17:41.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and leave anything that was'nt
<2023-03-22T20:18:29.000Z> MyLittleFashy: That's why general strikes take some time to organise, because basically the big unions have to prepare the "stiking management"
<2023-03-22T20:18:43.000Z> MyLittleFashy: that will run the survival parts of the country
<2023-03-22T20:19:23.000Z> MyLittleFashy: which is why there is a "test day" tomorrow, where it's ok if some crap fails because it's only a day
<2023-03-22T20:19:36.000Z> CatLord: that is so crazy to hear
<2023-03-22T20:19:43.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and the real strikes will start next week, I don't believe before mid week at the earliest
<2023-03-22T20:19:51.000Z> CatLord: you must have the strongest labour power in the world by far
<2023-03-22T20:19:58.000Z> CatLord: what other country compares with this?
<2023-03-22T20:20:19.000Z> MyLittleFashy: yeah, poland had a pretty strong labor movement too
<2023-03-22T20:20:35.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but now..  I don't know
<2023-03-22T20:20:54.000Z> MyLittleFashy: it's a side benefit of having had an "internal" cold war
<2023-03-22T20:21:13.000Z> MyLittleFashy: The labor unions were basically reverse gladio :D
<2023-03-22T20:21:18.000Z> CatLord: adopting national socialism on the sly to own the commies
<2023-03-22T20:21:19.000Z> MyLittleFashy: in case the US invaded :P
<2023-03-22T20:21:55.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I know the CGT still has warehouses full of weapons :P
<2023-03-22T20:22:41.000Z> MyLittleFashy: (big commie union, biggest union in national big enterprises like the energy sector)
<2023-03-22T20:23:01.000Z> CatLord: fuckkk
<2023-03-22T20:23:04.000Z> MyLittleFashy: and I know because I knew guys who were siphoning them in the 60's
<2023-03-22T20:23:15.000Z> MyLittleFashy: from army reserves
<2023-03-22T20:23:54.000Z> MyLittleFashy: They actually are one of the two organisations who hold one of the best state secret of france :D
<2023-03-22T20:24:25.000Z> MyLittleFashy: best kept
<2023-03-22T20:24:32.000Z> MyLittleFashy: the other being the interior ministry
<2023-03-22T20:24:40.000Z> MyLittleFashy: the ... underground map of Paris...
<2023-03-22T20:25:05.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I've seen only a very small part, and WTF
<2023-03-22T20:25:03.000Z> CatLord: map of the catacombs?
<2023-03-22T20:25:10.000Z> CatLord: what is in there
<2023-03-22T20:25:23.000Z> MyLittleFashy: the catacombs are just one access point
<2023-03-22T20:25:35.000Z> MyLittleFashy: paris was built over stone quarries
<2023-03-22T20:25:55.000Z> MyLittleFashy: underground stone quarries, used from pre-roman times up to the XIXth century...
<2023-03-22T20:26:21.000Z> MyLittleFashy: it's got layers upon layers of freaking tunnels
<2023-03-22T20:27:09.000Z> MyLittleFashy: old sewage networks, quarries tunnels, old catacombs, temporary tunnels built for the metro building work
<2023-03-22T20:27:30.000Z> MyLittleFashy: Think "new york underground" crap, but 2000 years old...
<2023-03-22T20:28:25.000Z> MyLittleFashy: It's freaking dangerous even with a map, so nobody goes down there except for a few sucidal explorers
<2023-03-22T20:29:04.000Z> MyLittleFashy: but it basically ensures that any organisation with maps can move around unnoticed and unperturbed
<2023-03-22T20:30:34.000Z> MyLittleFashy: I went down once less than an hundred meters from an entry point, and I was already shitting my pants...
<2023-05-11T00:09:11.000Z> CatLord: where u go