<2021-11-13T01:27:34.000Z> JosephPatterson: Hey dude I got more or less the same series of questions that you just uploaded. It’s a template from Boeing which is actually asking illegal questions.
<2021-11-13T01:28:00.000Z> LouisConde: It's all centrally coordinated from the White House 
<2021-11-13T01:28:02.000Z> JosephPatterson: Someone sent me a video that tells you how to fill out these questions to avoid falling for their traps that I wish I had watched first
<2021-11-13T01:28:11.000Z> JosephPatterson: I’ll see if I can dig it up for you. 
<2021-11-13T01:28:50.000Z> LouisConde: Lol I actually work for subcontractor of Boeing
<2021-11-13T01:28:59.000Z> JosephPatterson: Same. 
<2021-11-13T01:29:24.000Z> LouisConde: It's  pure evil man
<2021-11-13T01:29:26.000Z> JosephPatterson: The template got flowed down from Boeing and copypastad by our HR
<2021-11-13T01:29:38.000Z> JosephPatterson: Yeah. Literally designed to trip you up. 
<2021-11-13T01:30:20.000Z> JosephPatterson: youtu.be/NiatZvoVXlQ
<2021-11-13T01:31:10.000Z> JosephPatterson: This chicks kind of a holy roller evangelist type but is a lawyer in California. They’re doing some sort of grift operation tbh but if you watch their videos they give some good info on how to respond. 
<2021-11-13T01:31:17.000Z> LouisConde: Thanks man, I'll watch this for sure
<2021-11-13T01:32:13.000Z> JosephPatterson: Like I said, mine got denied and I’m in an appeal now but I’ve had other people get theirs through. I’m semiconfident that we will get through this. 
<2021-11-13T01:32:56.000Z> JosephPatterson: Our site normally has 300+ employees and we are majorly behind on everything because we only have 190 right now lol. Whole site is burnt out on overtime. 
<2021-11-13T01:33:01.000Z> LouisConde: Yeah I don't know how it'll go since it's some legal board that reviews it, right?
<2021-11-13T01:33:38.000Z> JosephPatterson: Yeah. It’s some sort of company that got hired I think. Seen lots of stuff where the responses are basically all the same blanket ones. 
<2021-11-13T01:33:53.000Z> JosephPatterson: “Third party” review 
<2021-11-13T01:34:12.000Z> LouisConde: Our company is tiny, I actually thought we might be small enough  to escape but they have 120 people 
<2021-11-13T01:35:30.000Z> LouisConde: Our HR is really just one dude and he flat out told us they're in dire straits because 25% of the workforce isn't vaccinated and if they have to fire a significant portion of them they're going to be crippled 
<2021-11-13T01:35:39.000Z> JosephPatterson: Yeah. It’s a rock and a hard place, but Boeing is in the same spot. Red Mesa, Everett and Seattle are all on strike right now so the entire commercial side is fucked currently
<2021-11-13T01:36:07.000Z> JosephPatterson: DoD side also looked like it was going to do the same but haven’t heard about those facilities yet
<2021-11-13T01:37:03.000Z> LouisConde: Yeah I think they really screwed things that cannot be unscrewed 
<2021-11-13T01:37:08.000Z> JosephPatterson: *Tulsa, double negged on Seattle. 
<2021-11-13T01:39:03.000Z> JosephPatterson: It’s their can of worms. They can eat a dick as far as I’m concerned. Financially, there’s so much profit baked into these programs that they’ve yanked for years that it was bound to blow up in their face eventually. 
<2021-11-13T01:39:48.000Z> JosephPatterson: Right now we’re reaching a switching point where all the old mechanics are retiring and there aren’t enough young folks to replace them. And the foreign contractors are shit. 
<2021-11-13T01:40:26.000Z> JosephPatterson: This has the potential to bring down the whole MIC. But that’s just my opinion. 
<2021-11-13T01:40:39.000Z> LouisConde: Same, like half of my coworkers are Hispanic or various ethnicities who were refugees from the Vietnam War
<2021-11-13T01:41:31.000Z> LouisConde: Yeah I don't get how they're going to start a war over Taiwan or Ukraine when the supply chain is thus fraught 
<2021-11-13T01:41:49.000Z> JosephPatterson: We’re up to like 80% contractors now. And they all really really suck compared to any of the white guys 
<2021-11-13T01:42:21.000Z> LouisConde: My supervisor told me we're already $8 million behind projected revenue for the year, and new orders aren't really coming in
<2021-11-13T01:43:29.000Z> JosephPatterson: Yeah. That sounds right for DoD side. All the rates were basically halfed in 2019
<2021-11-13T01:44:49.000Z> LouisConde: They just invested all this money in a new wing and ordered tons of equipment from Germany, and now sales have dried up 
<2021-11-13T01:46:53.000Z> JosephPatterson: Boeing is basically also being run exactly like Sears was described as being ran when they did the FTN on it. Each site is its own little fiefdom. They are in a bad position because of that, competing with each other for resources, manpower, and materials. 
<2021-11-13T01:48:15.000Z> LouisConde: From what I've heard from people from various industries, is that pretty much all of Corporate America is run that way 
<2021-11-13T01:48:53.000Z> JosephPatterson: Yes and no. Aerospace is particularly bad and was operating like that starting around 2015 onwards. 
<2021-11-13T01:50:22.000Z> JosephPatterson: Either way, I gotta head to bed. Let me know if you want a second look or proof read on your answers before you send them (with doxable shit removed of course). I sent my stuff through my friend review board a few times and that was helpful. 
<2021-11-13T01:58:54.000Z> LouisConde: Thanks man 
<2021-11-15T16:27:53.000Z> JosephPatterson: They just extended our deadline out to January. 
<2021-11-15T19:26:36.000Z> LouisConde: I just heard my supervisors bitching and the problem is Raytheon. If you're taking the Pfizer shot you have to do so by the end of November, while J&J is December 21st.
<2021-11-15T19:27:35.000Z> LouisConde: Otherwise we're terminated on January 4th
<2021-11-15T20:05:46.000Z> JosephPatterson: Yeah. They gave the same arbitrary deadlines here. I still haven’t heard back about my appeal. I expected to hear about it today or tomorrow. 
<2021-11-15T22:50:25.000Z> LouisConde: Best of luck man, a lot of people where I'm at seem to be cucking. I only know one other person who considered the exemption 
<2021-11-15T23:31:29.000Z> JosephPatterson: Incredibly disappointing. Have to stay strong in the face of adversity or we ultimately are unable to call ourselves men, let alone nationalists. 
<2021-11-19T21:38:00.000Z> JosephPatterson: They rejected my appeal. 
<2021-11-19T21:38:21.000Z> LouisConde: That sucks man
<2021-11-19T21:38:27.000Z> JosephPatterson: Looks like they might reject 50+ employees and the site will go out of business. 
<2021-11-19T21:38:41.000Z> LouisConde: Did they say why?
<2021-11-19T21:39:28.000Z> JosephPatterson: No. The responses they’ve sent have basically been inapplicable to my info twice. 
<2021-11-19T21:39:35.000Z> JosephPatterson: Like a canned response. 
<2021-11-19T21:41:04.000Z> JosephPatterson: The local HR guy is going to see if he can pull some more strings with his boss, but the DeSantis shit might end up working in my favor either way. It’s tough to call right now. 
<2021-11-19T21:41:57.000Z> JosephPatterson: The GM is in full panic mode so I think he’s losing all control over the situation as well. 
<2021-11-19T21:42:40.000Z> JosephPatterson: Big black stain on what was looking to be a solid white pill day too. Are you still going to file yours? 
<2021-11-19T21:43:22.000Z> LouisConde: Yeah, I've been watching those videos you sent before I submit because I'm worried about getting denied too 
<2021-11-19T21:43:59.000Z> LouisConde: I have no idea who is reviewing it, if it's the guy who comprises my HR department, then he probably would rubberstamp it
<2021-11-19T21:44:17.000Z> LouisConde: But if it's somebody else, then all bets are off
<2021-11-19T21:45:23.000Z> JosephPatterson: That’s the catch 22 I think I ran into. I figured it was local and then they sent it through some faggot third party bots since the response format more or less matches shit that’s been posted to 4chan. 
<2021-11-19T21:46:29.000Z> JosephPatterson: I went into too much detail on my first pass and I think it’s best to keep it as vague as possible. “If I take these shots I will go to hell, so I am not going to take these shots.”
<2021-11-19T21:48:37.000Z> JosephPatterson: It also could just be libtards reviewing since the only person I’ve seen get through so far was a vegan. 🤔
<2021-11-19T21:49:14.000Z> LouisConde: yeah that's what I'm thinking, be as vague as possible 
<2021-12-04T00:24:56.000Z> JosephPatterson: A bunch of my friends wives got their exemptions through. They did some Bible verse listing to help give weight but what they provided wasn’t all that different from what I wrote. 
<2021-12-04T00:25:43.000Z> LouisConde: That's good, but odd that they were more lenient
<2021-12-04T00:26:54.000Z> LouisConde: I wonder if they maybe are changing their attitude as court cases keep going and the omicron variant proves that the vaccine rollout is a failure 
<2021-12-04T00:28:10.000Z> LouisConde: Hopefully the District Court case striking down the contractor mandate makes it to the Circuit Court before January and they issue a nationwide injunction 
<2021-12-04T00:28:53.000Z> JosephPatterson: Yeah. They announced that we had reached an arbitrary threshold and lifted the mask mandate for vaccinated here. But it’s tough. I’m hoping the Mike take is correct and “we’re done here” but I’m also covering my ass by filing yet another exemption. 
<2021-12-04T00:30:18.000Z> LouisConde: Yeah I'm handing my letter in on Monday, because they probably will not have the Court case make it to the circuit Court by the holidays
<2021-12-04T00:32:12.000Z> LouisConde: Hopefully, worst case scenario is they fire me and the courts strike down the mandate in a few weeks making the whole thing moot when looking for another job
<2021-12-04T00:36:50.000Z> JosephPatterson: I know for a fact that the last company I worked for doesn’t care about the mandate and is desperate for workers. So even other MIC companies don’t care depending on their size. 
<2021-12-04T00:38:31.000Z> LouisConde: Yeah my employer doesn't give a damn either, it's Raytheon who is squeezing their balls on this, and since they lost a lot of their contractors with Lockheed Martin over quality controls (lol), they're really screwed
<2021-12-04T00:40:56.000Z> JosephPatterson: They might just say they’re complying and then not then. There’s nothing really stopping a company from saying “yes we have a mandate” and then instructing employees how to apply for exemptions. I don’t think Lockheed is caring that much either based on a supplier I just visited in Cali. 
<2021-12-04T00:44:22.000Z> LouisConde: Apparently Raytheon is asking them to send photos of every Vaccine card, which is pretty shitty and possibly a legal gray area. I don't get why they just don't say everyone is religiously exempt, other than they don't want to stick their neck out.
<2021-12-04T00:46:09.000Z> LouisConde: My impression is, they probably will rubberstamp my exemption if it's just reviewed internally 
<2021-12-04T01:17:45.000Z> JosephPatterson: That sounds absolutely ridiculous. If they are going to that level of extreme they probably aren’t going to make it, but I don’t have any experience with Raytheon so I can’t speculate like I can with Boeing. 
<2021-12-04T01:18:30.000Z> LouisConde: Yeah Raytheon is fucking the wokest of the woke
<2021-12-04T01:18:50.000Z> JosephPatterson: I hope they rubber stamp you. And they rubber stamp me too, at this point. But I am more confident now that they will have to just to avoid the fines from the state. 
<2021-12-04T01:19:08.000Z> LouisConde: I think that's where Iron Dome Eddie Gorcenski works, imagine that
<2021-12-04T01:25:56.000Z> JosephPatterson: Eugh. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case. 
<2021-12-07T19:39:39.000Z> LouisConde: Good news!
<2021-12-07T19:39:43.000Z> LouisConde: cnbc.com/2021/12/07/us-court-temporarily-halts-bidens-vaccine-mandate-for-federal-contractors.html
<2021-12-07T21:36:22.000Z> JosephPatterson: Hah. That is good news. They released a message today right after I turned in the Desantis form delaying until Jan 18th
<2021-12-07T21:36:43.000Z> JosephPatterson: Fingers crossed this shit is just dead now. 
<2021-12-08T00:13:09.000Z> LouisConde: Interesting that they pushed it back another few weeks. I think they must know internally that things are falling apart 
<2021-12-08T00:24:55.000Z> JosephPatterson: I think that the narrative is crumbling significantly right now, there isn’t any sort of way that they can hold things together and prevent cognitive dissonance. There are a lot of vaccinated people that feel more or less betrayed, are not going to be boostered, and are pissed off that all the evidence shows that they were lied to. 
<2021-12-08T00:26:47.000Z> JosephPatterson: I think that as things get more looney and not less, it will matter less and less as well. We have administration people saying they are considering a nuclear first strike on Russia over Ukraine right now. Just completely schizophrenic. 
<2021-12-08T00:27:43.000Z> JosephPatterson: Quite frankly this sort of insanity is the exact same kind of stuff that ended the Soviet Union. 
<2021-12-08T00:28:11.000Z> LouisConde: Yeah, they're really losing their grip on the reins
<2021-12-08T00:29:18.000Z> JosephPatterson: All I can say is Hail NJP and Hail Victory. Hue hue hue. 
<2021-12-08T00:29:34.000Z> JosephPatterson: Can’t come soon enough. 
<2021-12-08T00:29:34.000Z> LouisConde: Amren borther
<2021-12-10T15:14:38.000Z> JosephPatterson: Turn in your paperwork anyway so you can seal the deal.
<2021-12-10T15:15:20.000Z> LouisConde: Yeah I submitted it Monday so even if the injunction gets lifted they have it on file 
<2021-12-10T15:15:23.000Z> JosephPatterson: Its my hope that they are completely done, but always plan for the worst case scenario. They may feel like they have more wiggle room to accept it now
<2021-12-10T15:15:40.000Z> JosephPatterson: 👍🏻
<2021-12-10T15:16:05.000Z> LouisConde: Everyone's sick of this shit it's pretty funny now 
<2021-12-10T15:17:21.000Z> JosephPatterson: Yeah. There’s still a lot of seething libtards and they’ve been really quiet but basically everyone is at the point they dont care. 
<2022-01-18T16:56:39.000Z> JosephPatterson: They still haven't accepted my exemption. And just pushed it out another month again. Lmfao. 
<2022-01-18T16:56:54.000Z> JosephPatterson: This shit is a ride that never ends. 
<2022-01-18T17:07:45.000Z> LouisConde: The Contractor mandate is likely going to get struck down in a few weeks anyway. They're just being petty
<2022-01-18T17:08:30.000Z> LouisConde: I've seen screencaps of HR catladies on Reddit seething over no longer being able to terrorize people who applied for exemptions
<2022-01-18T17:17:01.000Z> JosephPatterson: I hope thats the case. Tbh they are still being masktarded as well and my patience is at its limit. 