<2023-01-24T18:36:01.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I just wanted to pm you so there's not a big fight from poasters saying women are naturally stupid, or spinsters saying men are naturally depraved. I agree with you. There's too much evidence not to. I guess it just bugs me what it's become a day. I'm on a mom thread and this woman is angry that her husband is watching porn with their baby girl on him, and she says something along the lines of "I wouldn't care if he just watched porn. I know he has needs." 
<2023-01-24T18:36:57.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: How did we accept it to such a mass scale? That's what's bugging me the most. I know who pushed it, who still pushes it. I just can't believe it got so normalized and accepted
<2023-01-24T18:39:34.000Z> JSDorn: No worries. PM is fine. And yes, that's absolutely disgusting. If that man were a close family member I'd beat him with a stick for such evil.
<2023-01-24T18:40:33.000Z> JSDorn: I think the philosophical and moral justifications come from a therapeutic approach to the mind and body, which only propagated in modernity because of the destruction of religion and the loss by normal people of a belief in the transcendent.
<2023-01-24T18:41:25.000Z> JSDorn: Some of this is from the enlightenment, specifically the idea that man will flourish to the degree he is unencumbered by external restraints 
<2023-01-24T18:43:17.000Z> JSDorn: So we come to see moral structures regulating sex as oppressive and unhealthy. It's just a matter of generational turnover at that point. Once the Internet arrives porn becomes extremely common and available, but the vacuum for it to occupy was already there.
<2023-01-24T18:47:58.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Thanks, yes I would too. I see what you're saying and agree. It became "cool" to have casual sex, and in turn to treat anything sexual as casual or even liberating. Gone goes it being there as a gift to marriage or to start a family. And it turn it takes down the normalcy and healthiness of a nuclear family.  
<2023-01-24T18:49:15.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: And it doesn't help that in popular media back then, they normalized liking porn and making fun of anyone vocally against it. I was listening to Pigs by Pink Floyd, and he references Mary Whitehouse in the song. Here's one of the most famous bands making a woman speaking out against it look like an idiot. 
<2023-01-24T18:50:09.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: You sum it all up perfectly though. Especially how the foundation was already there and once the internet made things widespread available, we didn't stand a chance. 
<2023-01-24T18:55:19.000Z> JSDorn: You are pretty cool for a spinster. Feel free to follow me.
<2023-01-24T18:56:17.000Z> JSDorn: Pop culture has been the leading edge of this stuff since the 50s honestly. A big reason why i traveled the Conservative to Nazi pipeline was because i saw all of this stuff done with race in exactly the same way by the same people. 
<2023-01-24T19:03:46.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Thanks. My husband is actually on your site. I showed him r/consumeproduct before the reddit purge and when I found the fediverse I told him about it and he saw a lot of guys from that sub moved to poast. I just draw the line at women. I hate all the other degenerate shit that we get lumped in with. Can't ever learn about women without LGBTQ and race crap. Intersectionality or whatever 
<2023-01-24T19:05:35.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yes so true. It got pushed everywhere too. I recently read an article of Germany after WW2 (and even the first war). Once you see all the links to Jews, how they run everything, it's hard to unsee. I mean look at the CEO of playboy right now. Id like to hear more of how they did it to race before. I definitely believe it. 
<2023-01-24T19:07:55.000Z> JSDorn: Nice! Hope your husband is one of my mutuals.
<2023-01-24T19:35:49.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I'll have to ask him and see! I would think so. He told me before he just mutes profiles with degenerate stuff or when men say it's stupid to be with women 
<2023-01-25T01:31:39.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: He said he does follow you 
<2023-01-25T04:34:52.000Z> JSDorn: Nice! What's his @???
<2023-01-25T05:48:48.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: 14wontons91 😁
<2023-01-25T13:13:08.000Z> JSDorn: Nice
<2023-01-25T13:23:32.000Z> JSDorn: Follow him now
<2023-01-25T14:37:06.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Sweet! 
<2023-02-02T21:00:24.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Hey I'm Orthodox too! I converted a few years ago from  a protestant branch after doing a semester-long research project with a subculture of my choosing. 
<2023-02-03T00:19:03.000Z> JSDorn: Nice! I come from the same background. Found it by accident and there was no turning back. My daughter was baptized and chrismated into it at birth.
<2023-02-03T04:00:57.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Very similar. It just makes the most sense with what they believe. I mean it's the original form of Christianity, well I guess Catholics can claim that too because of the split. But orthodoxy makes much more sense in their teachings. And yes, same here! My son got chrismated and baptized as well after the forty days. 
<2023-02-03T12:58:39.000Z> JSDorn: Very nice! Yeah it seemed pretty clear to me that Orthodoxy hadn't changed nearly as much as Catholicism and that at least in the NT it's clear that the church resolved serious disputes by council, not by asking Saint Peter what to do.
<2023-02-03T15:34:29.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yes exactly. Couldn't agree more. 
<2023-02-09T04:44:37.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Just found this on Twitter hahaha. Having my husband post it cause it wouldn't do well on Spinster https://media.spinster.xyz/cc91c1bff20d99730e5f670acefc79246e7d70266bedb9400d039025643235aa.jpeg
<2023-02-10T04:30:37.000Z> JSDorn: Lol
<2023-05-01T22:04:26.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Do you enjoy having a poast account? 
<2023-05-01T22:05:01.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Matty on nicecrew has said he doesn't want his instance too political and more shitposty, I'm thinking of switching over. 
<2023-05-01T23:22:10.000Z> JSDorn: Hmmm. Well you might have to come over to poast then
<2023-05-02T00:26:03.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: So you like it there then? 
<2023-05-02T01:51:52.000Z> JSDorn: Yeah, though I've been there a long time and have a pretty curated group of people. You might be better off not signaling that you are female
<2023-05-02T02:18:14.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Yes definitely, I understand. Hmm well I'll think about it. Thank you! 
<2023-05-17T23:27:14.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: I made one, feels lots better than NC. Just more politics and all. I sent you a request to follow @youngblood 
<2023-05-17T23:27:33.000Z> LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz: Thanks for your insight on it
<2023-05-18T18:52:19.000Z> JSDorn: You are very welcome, I'll follow back