<2022-04-20T19:01:35.000Z> DuelCitizen: These guys are the worst mix of willful ignorance  and puerile demands. 
<2022-04-20T19:20:16.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: Welcome to clown world my dude.
<2022-04-20T19:20:35.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: Nobody is immune to the honking.
<2022-04-20T19:44:29.000Z> DuelCitizen: I’ve been in this since before the internet. It’s just so frustrating to see these guys nosedive a good thing due to insularity and a complete lack of introspection. Every one of their arguments, repackaged  multiple times, is this disjointed “ can’t be reached, but we need more support, but actually we don’t because muh institutions, everything we do matters but nothing we do matters enough worth critiquing it, so we need a magic fairer savior and (missing) is how we suddenly take over.”
<2022-04-20T19:59:43.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: It's a high stress environment everywhere you go these days, one way or another it gets to everyone.  I disengaged from the rat race reasonably successfully some years back and let me tell you that having a nice long sapper-ready driveway, ornamental flowerbeds that double as fighting positions, and pretty much only interacting personally with family and neighbours definitely takes the sting out, but I can still feel it going on from the agnostic-mormon compound.  I can't imagine what it would be like if I was trapped in civilisation.
<2022-04-20T20:00:54.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: Trump really mindfucked everyone, there's a king-shaped hole in society and an edict of expulsion is long overdue, and everyone knows it.
<2022-04-20T20:25:09.000Z> DuelCitizen: I live in a major city and am deeply lonely. I have a great lady I live with. A decent dog. Nice house, etc. but no friends. I don’t think these guys have any interaction with the rightward normie. I do. And while they’re interested in my “secret knowledge” and often pursue my recommended reading they are still sucked into the hamster  wheel of MSM drama. They believe in DeSantis for example. Which reinforces your comment about the Trump shaped hole. It’s real. 
<2022-04-20T20:29:51.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: The shitflinging and spiralling is whatchmacallit, diversion activity?  Something like that.
<2022-04-20T20:31:01.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: There's a term for it and you probably know what it is.  For whatever reason you can't do the thing you know MUST be done, so you look around for anything to distract you from the fact it's not getting done.
<2022-04-20T20:33:05.000Z> DuelCitizen: That’s a foreign mindset to me. I address a problem and look for steps to solve it I can do alone or with minimal aid, and then show those results to helpfully recruit more help using a proven method. The sort of discourse these Borzoi hangers on participate in is a baffling waste of energy. Who cares about literally any of it? At all? Rod Dreher? How does discussing this fag week after week advance our cause?
<2022-04-20T20:33:15.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: And from personal experience I can say that a slight feeling of isolation is infinitely preferable to being forced into proximity of people who you'd only have mutual contempt for if you bothered to know them.
<2022-04-20T20:34:34.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: Well that's it, there is no real way to fill that king-hole unless you want to step up yourself, and if you know you're incapable and can't identify anyone else who is...
<2022-04-20T20:35:02.000Z> DuelCitizen: This is very true. I’ve experienced it many times. 
<2022-04-21T17:28:55.000Z> DuelCitizen: My theory is even if such a character were to appear, and capable, he'd be rejected. Most likely for having a sordid past and tattoos, for example. Like Hitler, any leader who is basing his movement AGAINST something needs to understand what that enemy is. Having lived through it, at one time accepting it, and breaking the programing is essential to actual leadership. That man will show the marks of his journey. He would have to be able to speak to the men we need, not just the ones we have. And experience is essential to having that quality. Some literal dweeb who has never been in a fist fight like Borzoi and probably still wets the bed isn't the guy. The closest thing we have to guys like that are Striker. But he's certainly not the next Hitler. So what we get, now, is a group with no gift for "normie" outreach suddenly saying outreach isn't a useful direction, but somehow discussing fringe journalists in an insular circle of equally feckless midwits is somehow going to materialize that King. 
<2022-04-22T01:08:46.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: More likely for past associations with Jews I'd say.  There's a reason they go after the ruling classes.
<2022-04-22T01:09:55.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: Rabble rousers are also needed, Striker's a brainlet and Boresoy is so far up his own simulations he may as well be an economist, but they do their respective bits well enough.
<2022-04-22T01:12:20.000Z> IsraelDelendaEst: Enough rabble rousers might be able to hold something together until a strongman comes through.  Right now everyone is still comfy enough to ignore problems, it's going to have to get worse before it gets better and when that happens you take what you've got in the moment.