<2022-09-14T08:51:44.000Z> DeDi: Hi Haru, it's DD. I signed up for Poast cuz I can't seem to get on KF on Tor or anywhere else. Is the site totally down? 
<2022-09-14T11:28:09.000Z> Haru: It seems down to me at the moment
<2022-09-14T11:28:24.000Z> Haru: Not sure when you asked this because for some reason there are no damn timestamps
<2022-09-14T11:30:21.000Z> DeDi: No worries, was maybe an hour or two ago. I haven't been able to get on the farms for like 2 days now, and I don't see any news from Jersh :/
<2022-09-14T11:30:45.000Z> Haru: I was last able to use it like 10 hours ago, so it hasn't been completely down, although it seems to be now
<2022-09-14T11:31:05.000Z> Haru: I know Josh was installing new hardware and that would mean total downtime because everything's just literally off
<2022-09-14T11:31:26.000Z> DeDi: I see, so just wait and see through the week I guess then?
<2022-09-14T11:34:43.000Z> Haru: Yeah, in a day or two we'll know more
<2022-09-14T11:35:29.000Z> DeDi: Ah ok, well I guess I'll have to try and follow gunt news on here for a bit then lol, ty :P
<2022-09-14T11:35:42.000Z> Haru: Gator and I dabbed on the piggy together yesterday which was probably my most surreal moment as an Ethan detractor yet
<2022-09-14T11:36:19.000Z> Haru: Yeah, it's not as helpful as forum threads but you can still get decent insight into what's going on
<2022-09-14T11:36:27.000Z> Haru: And he's no-showed a bunch lately anyway
<2022-09-14T11:36:57.000Z> DeDi: lmao, that is pretty strange. Gator used to be almost as hated as Ralph. Now he's a true ayylawg like us 
<2022-09-14T11:37:22.000Z> DeDi: I noticed he is picking fights with Owen Benjamin now
<2022-09-14T11:37:37.000Z> DeDi: I hope that goes somewhere lol
<2022-09-14T11:38:02.000Z> Haru: Yeah.  I can't speak for anybody but myself but I do forgive him for the shit he said about me because it's clear Ethan was blackmailing him.  I understand why others might not be so forgiving but that's just how it goes with me I guess
<2022-09-14T11:38:11.000Z> Haru: I squashed the beef with most of the Discord clique too, as you can probably see
<2022-09-14T11:38:41.000Z> Haru: And yeah he had a cringey guntsucking session with Harrison from InfoWars last stream to cope and cry about Owen
<2022-09-14T11:39:36.000Z> DeDi: Yeah that's nice, I hope Gator turns his life around now he is free of Ralph. And yeah I saw people like Cow Poly and Richard around, followed em cuz we're all Kiwis in these dark times ;)
<2022-09-14T11:40:06.000Z> DeDi: Owen is legit crazy and his fans are crazier. Ralph is a moron haha
<2022-09-14T11:40:21.000Z> DeDi: What next, Ralph vs Scientology? xD
<2022-09-14T11:40:49.000Z> Haru: Cow Poly, FFFP/Richard, and Gin are all being less antagonistic now that the sky is falling
<2022-09-14T11:41:07.000Z> Haru: Empresa too, kinda, but he got ultra-turbo-banned somehow, every time he makes a new account it gets jannied almost instantly
<2022-09-14T11:41:27.000Z> DeDi: Puts things in perspective I guess. Either we shitpost together or hang seperately.
<2022-09-14T11:41:56.000Z> Haru: Even the piggy isn't retarded enough to go after Scientology, although that would be hilarious
<2022-09-14T11:42:07.000Z> DeDi: I want to like Empresa, but his lawn is filthy and he fucks trannies. :/
<2022-09-14T11:42:27.000Z> Haru: And possibly that raccoon 
<2022-09-14T11:42:40.000Z> Haru: Many memes to that effect have been posted on here
<2022-09-14T11:42:41.000Z> DeDi: lmfao I forgot about the raccoon xD
<2022-09-14T11:43:16.000Z> Haru: But I'm willing to mend fences with pretty much everybody, with one exception that I won't even name because it'll cause drama, but I think that person left the sektur anyway
<2022-09-14T11:43:38.000Z> Haru: And of course not with the Gunt, but that should go without saying
<2022-09-14T11:44:08.000Z> DeDi: Yeah same, I'd even be cool with Persip and Squire again if they came back tbh. I just want the site up and running so we can guntpost in peace.
<2022-09-14T11:44:33.000Z> Haru: I'd need an apology from Squire specifically but other than that it'd be fine, yeah
<2022-09-14T11:45:02.000Z> DeDi: It seems like Josh is optimistic, so I have faith
<2022-09-14T11:45:23.000Z> DeDi: Ofc even if we do survive this, the next crusade is always around the corner
<2022-09-14T11:46:35.000Z> Haru: Yeah, classic Red Queen Effect - exert continuous, intense effort just to stay where you already were before, many such cases
<2022-09-14T11:47:01.000Z> Haru: But if the site actually survives this it'll be intensely demoralizing to the Troon Squad and to the piggy and his ilk
<2022-09-14T11:47:31.000Z> Haru: I think Ethan is already coming to accept that he lost and that it's not going to stay down, he's been walking back and moderating his stance on his over the past week
<2022-09-14T11:47:34.000Z> DeDi: Ralph's win condition is always just to stay alive and online. Pure cockroach mentality lol
<2022-09-14T11:47:59.000Z> Haru: Yeah it's extremely pathetic and contemptible and I've enjoyed seeing BPF calling him out about that specific point
<2022-09-14T11:48:14.000Z> Haru: Mocking him for claiming a win when OTHER people do things to OTHER people
<2022-09-14T11:49:00.000Z> DeDi: He is so desperate for a win constantly, he sees things just going his way with zero input as a win. It's a very petty and childish attitude. 
<2022-09-14T11:49:32.000Z> DeDi: Kinda like when one kid claims he is better than another kid because his dad is a manager or whatever lol
<2022-09-14T11:49:33.000Z> Haru: It DOES make it easy for his accelerationist detractor "fans" to pump him up and make him sperg out though, so there's a silver lining in that regard
<2022-09-14T11:50:31.000Z> DeDi: Oh absolutely, Ralph's personality flaws paradoxically make him perfection in the lolcow universe. We are lucky to have him. xD
<2022-09-14T11:52:43.000Z> Haru: He was melting down hard about the Vickers making another legal thrust at him yesterday and how he's down $15,000 this year on legal fees so I think he's going to explode again soon
<2022-09-14T11:53:23.000Z> Haru: And he (like most people to be entirely fair) has NO CONCEPTION of how expensive civil litigation is
<2022-09-14T11:53:49.000Z> DeDi: It still boggles my mind that he gets enough in donos to cover these legal expenses and his gluttonous lifestyle AND pay for a child. The latter I assume he is just not doing.
<2022-09-14T11:53:50.000Z> Haru: It's almost always six figures unless there's a really early settlement
<2022-09-14T11:54:17.000Z> DeDi: oh shit, that's gonna break the piggy bank
<2022-09-14T11:54:32.000Z> Haru: As I understand it he's not doing it.  He's paid nothing for Xander and Mantsu is presumably getting government assistance 
<2022-09-14T11:54:55.000Z> DeDi: section 8 housing and extra shifts at Subway for Meigh xD
<2022-09-14T11:55:19.000Z> DeDi: Ain't no baby gonna stop the Ralphamale going to bank hookers in Vegas 
<2022-09-14T11:55:21.000Z> Haru: Fortunately she seemed perfectly happy walking around the neighborhood and eating random peoples' shrubbery that one time
<2022-09-14T11:55:26.000Z> DeDi: bang*
<2022-09-14T11:55:44.000Z> DeDi: LOL I forgot she ate flowers
<2022-09-14T11:55:50.000Z> DeDi: Meeeeeeeeigh!
<2022-09-14T11:56:00.000Z> Haru: That was just so bizarre and she volunteered the information apropos of nothing whatsoever
<2022-09-14T11:56:24.000Z> DeDi: the clouthorse thing is real ;)
<2022-09-18T19:48:28.000Z> DeDi: Hey Haru, I'm hearing the Farms was hacked and people might have account details and stuff... do you know anything about the extent of this?
<2022-09-18T19:49:03.000Z> Haru: I don't know anything other than what Josh has made public, which is that people should assume their email, password, and recent IPs are compromised
<2022-09-18T19:49:54.000Z> Haru: The size of this chat window is just totally asinine by the way
<2022-09-18T19:52:11.000Z> DeDi: Yeah it's also not working properly for me, did not show my message as sent nor notify me of your reply lol
<2022-09-18T19:53:37.000Z> DeDi: Well of course I used a burner email with no person info attached whatsoever, so I'm not worried per se, but this is shitty.
<2022-09-18T19:55:54.000Z> Haru: Yeah.  I'm actually not concerned at all although I'm very annoyed because I was actually planning to set up some false info this week in case something like this DID happen
<2022-09-18T19:56:21.000Z> Haru: Specifically I was going to change my email to something that looked like dox to seed a false lead in case this type of breach happened
<2022-09-18T19:56:29.000Z> Haru: Oh well
<2022-09-18T19:59:47.000Z> DeDi: The only downside I can foresee is them fucking with my KF account if they can get into it. But I assume Josh can fix that with a site-wide reset to an earlier date, I've seen him do it before.
<2022-09-18T20:00:59.000Z> Haru: I assume the accounts will be locked until the user changes their password
<2022-09-18T20:01:19.000Z> Haru: i.e. they'll only be in trouble if their KF password is the same as their email password and the attacker tries to go upstream
<2022-09-18T20:01:36.000Z> Haru: This is unlikely to be done in general, potentially only for users being manually targeted
<2022-09-18T20:01:48.000Z> Haru: And people shouldn't be reusing passwords anyway, especially in the same ecosystem
<2022-09-18T20:08:14.000Z> DeDi: Yeah well in that case I guess my account is safe. But I imagine some people have used their regular email addresses in spite of all the warnings on sign up... you know how people are. We might see some frens get some consequences. :(
<2022-09-18T20:08:51.000Z> DeDi: All it takes is one Kiwi to get fired/humiliated and the pig will squeal with delight for weeks.
<2022-09-18T20:17:14.000Z> Haru: That would be unfortunate, to be sure, although I'd like to think most of the people in our part of the site know better
<2022-09-18T20:17:43.000Z> Haru: Like when you're dealing with a violent felon that makes constant threats, it's pretty good motivation to be careful
<2022-09-18T20:18:27.000Z> Haru: Maybe not to my turbo-autistic extent (my burner email is literally a joke that I used specifically in case there was a breach, and was eventually going to be changed to fake dox) but steps should be taken
<2022-09-18T20:18:55.000Z> Haru: Like I've lectured people about the importance of using VPNs on many occasions so hopefully at least a few people listened
<2022-09-18T20:19:11.000Z> Haru: If anyone gets pinched for reusing PASSWORDS then they get what they deserve though
<2022-09-18T20:20:15.000Z> Haru: What people are going to be worked up about are the IPs, though, and I think there's going to be hysteria about what that entails
<2022-09-18T20:20:30.000Z> Haru: And I'm worried people may leave the site over misinformation or even DISinformation propagated by the pig et al
<2022-09-18T20:26:26.000Z> DeDi: I should probably have used a VPN, although tbh I don't really care if people have my IP. It's not like having my actual address or National Insurance number or anything, lol. I guess they could use it to rout illegal activity through my router but in that case I'd just go to the police and report them. Maybe I'm naive tho, lol. You probably know more about this stuff.
<2022-09-18T20:28:20.000Z> Haru: It's very unlikely that anything will happen.  Really the ONLY time it could come into play is if somebody was trying to dox a person and had their name but couldn't disambiguate between a few people with that name and got geo info from the IP
<2022-09-18T20:28:27.000Z> Haru: Which is insanely unlikely to ever be a practical concern
<2022-09-18T20:36:17.000Z> DeDi: Fortunately I don't put any personal info about myself on the internet. Just always seemed like a bad idea to me. I suppose we should look to the previous hack to predict what might happen - did anyone from the Farms get shit from that last hack?
<2022-09-18T20:39:08.000Z> Haru: I know a lot of people deleted their accounts, including at least 2 red admins
<2022-09-18T20:39:20.000Z> Haru: But Josh changed his data retention policy since then so there will be less information released this time
<2022-09-18T20:40:00.000Z> DeDi: Lol, I don't see a reason to go that far. Even in the worst case scenario where they get into my KF account I don't see that affecting me IRL.
<2022-09-18T20:42:43.000Z> Haru: I'd be mildly annoyed if my DMs got leaked but I think they auto-purge after a month so even that wouldn't matter
<2022-09-18T20:42:56.000Z> Haru: My RECENT DMs are basically just me reconciling with half the Discord clique
<2022-09-18T20:43:49.000Z> DeDi: All I do is make fun of a fat alcoholic felonious rape pig. No big deal. Sure I've said nigger there a few times, but contrary to what people think it is not illegal (yet) to simply say that word in the UK. xD
<2022-09-18T20:43:52.000Z> Haru: I'm honestly tempted to post my own info as a flex but don't want to hubristically give the pig a chance to get into my account if the password change policy isn't imposed the way I'm expecting
<2022-09-18T20:44:47.000Z> Haru: Every single thing I do related to this sektur is isolated and one thing being leaked won't affect anything else.  I even use separate burner emails for almsot everything
<2022-09-18T20:44:56.000Z> DeDi: Hell DM leaks are not even safe from other Kiwis, lol. We learned that the hard way with Squire. :/
<2022-09-18T20:45:04.000Z> Haru: Yeah
<2022-09-18T20:45:17.000Z> Haru: I think he's back on a sock by the way but I'm not going to say which until I'm more sure
<2022-09-18T20:45:36.000Z> Haru: He's ALSO the person who did the Josh impersonation that Ethan has been playing lately
<2022-09-18T20:45:43.000Z> Haru: *impression, not impersonation
<2022-09-18T20:45:52.000Z> Haru: (since he didn't actually try to pass himself off as Josh)
<2022-09-18T20:46:37.000Z> DeDi: I did use the same burner email for Poast, but I've only used it for this and KF. Figured since my Poast persona is connected to my Kiwi one I might as well. But so what if they have the address, they ain't got the PW for that.
<2022-09-18T20:47:08.000Z> Haru: Yeah.  It's fine.  I just take things to the next level out of paranoia essentially, especially in light of the threats that I get
<2022-09-18T20:47:16.000Z> Haru: It's almost surely not necessary but better safe than sorry
<2022-09-18T20:47:36.000Z> DeDi: Squire is a special breed of autist, lol. I dunno if he's just weird or if he's that desperate to be an e-celeb.
<2022-09-18T20:47:52.000Z> Haru: Their gay op against us was so retarded it boggles the mind
<2022-09-18T20:48:28.000Z> Haru: Like, it was predicated entirely on the idea that we wouldn't leak the full logs to disprove it...but they were using the excerpts to cast us in the worst light possible, so why wouldn't we?  There was nothing left to lose
<2022-09-18T20:48:34.000Z> Haru: Just smoothbrain planning
<2022-09-18T20:49:39.000Z> DeDi: Yes I think you should be as secretive as you can, given you dig into actual info and that upsets people like Ralph a LOT. I presume I'm less of a target because I just make fun of him, I'm not good at getting info like that. So I'm probably just a face in the crowd, whereas you are more of a... target, hehe. ;D
<2022-09-18T20:50:14.000Z> DeDi: Also sorry for the slow replies, this chat is broken for me I have to refresh after I make each post lol
<2022-09-18T20:52:01.000Z> DeDi: Yeah and even then the DM chain was not at all what they claimed it was, and there wasn't any other bad/embarrassing stuff that might make us hesitant to post the full messages. At worst there was some dick-sucking in our group lol. But that's normal, people be nice to get along, you know.
<2022-09-18T20:52:49.000Z> DeDi: I mostly felt bad for Burger Fox because he was a nice user and Squire went hard trying to humiliate him for no reason.
<2022-09-18T20:53:09.000Z> Haru: Yeah no worries
<2022-09-18T20:53:19.000Z> Haru: And yeah that was pretty vile behavior and I'm still pretty annoyed about it
<2022-09-18T20:53:55.000Z> Haru: And for what? They essentially got bullied out of the thread/subforum when their gay op was exposed.  Squire got a lot of top hats and never really posted again
<2022-09-18T20:54:31.000Z> Haru: And then PPP went all-in on calling me a tranny back in January and making weird claims that I had persona influence over Josh, gee I wonder who was pushing that behind the scenes
<2022-09-18T20:54:51.000Z> Haru: Fucking hilarious typo but I meant personaL influence
<2022-09-18T20:55:09.000Z> Haru: Unfortunately the merge isn't far enough along yet for me to have persona influence
<2022-09-18T20:58:25.000Z> DeDi: Hehe, figured it was a typo, but a funny one xD
<2022-09-18T20:59:42.000Z> DeDi: And yeah it was weird to see how easily PPP was manipulated into that narrative. It became clear to me then that he is actually pretty lazy and requires on capos to get info for his content. I did enjoy seeing the capos be exposed and shamed in his thread. Crystal Golem in particular was batting for vengeance on our behalf. xD
<2022-09-18T21:00:02.000Z> DeDi: relies on*
<2022-09-18T21:12:03.000Z> Haru: Yeah he was, and rightly so.   At least PPP has finally dropped the pro-Ethan gayfabe
<2022-09-18T21:17:24.000Z> DeDi: His whole idea that the way to beat Ralph is to ignore him was foolish. He didn't realise Ralph is like a cockroach, the usual pest control methods are not gonna work on him. He will scurry in the dark and reemerge to eat shit off the floor. You gotta shine a light on him and squish him with a giant L. ;D
<2022-09-19T12:00:35.000Z> Haru: twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/1571606091829743616
<2022-09-19T12:00:38.000Z> Haru: Cursed
<2022-09-19T12:01:08.000Z> Haru: Perspicacity is capoing for the piggy now
<2022-09-19T12:49:51.000Z> DeDi: I wish I could say I was surprised, lol. He is desperate to be some e-celeb and since he burned bridges with PPP/Andy I guess Ralph is the next best master in the sektur. 
<2022-09-19T12:51:03.000Z> Haru: Josh is apparently out of action for a week so it's gonna be a slog
<2022-09-19T12:54:05.000Z> DeDi: Ah shit, I guess we'll have to make do ayylawgin' here then. Is Josh ok? Just burned out?
<2022-09-19T12:57:08.000Z> Haru: Some kind of family emergency
<2022-09-19T13:01:09.000Z> DeDi: I see, well yeah he should prioritise that. We can wait a bit. In the meantime Ralph is claiming to be in contact with the 'hacker collective' and is doing his victory squeals. xD
<2022-09-19T13:01:40.000Z> Haru: I'm sure Josh's dad hooked them up
<2022-09-19T13:11:10.000Z> DeDi: Lmao. In one of the messages he posted the person ends it with something like 'stay winning king'. So either the hacker is a huge fan of the Killstream, or it's some anon fucking with him for keks. 
<2022-09-19T13:14:28.000Z> Haru: 100% a gay op against him
<2022-09-19T13:16:40.000Z> Haru: I see GuitarAnthony in Ethan's replies propagating his lies about the site being down
<2022-09-19T13:16:47.000Z> Haru: That's not a smart choice for him
<2022-09-19T13:17:06.000Z> Haru: Hope there's nothing waiting for him on the site when it goes back up
<2022-09-19T13:28:33.000Z> DeDi: I'm not familiar with GuitarAnthony, is this a Kiwi user or someone else?
<2022-09-19T13:29:02.000Z> Haru: He's basically Ethan's head janny at this point
<2022-09-19T13:29:19.000Z> Haru: They've known each other for many years, he was part of Ethan's original Gaymergate Slack gay ops server
<2022-09-19T13:29:28.000Z> Haru: He's BELLIGERENTLY pro-pig
<2022-09-19T13:29:47.000Z> Haru: And that's not all I know about him, but all I can say on here :^)
<2022-09-19T13:32:01.000Z> DeDi: Ohhh I see now, haha. Gotcha. ;)
<2022-09-19T13:53:37.000Z> Haru: I wish there was an easily accessible list of his other jannies somewhere
<2022-09-19T14:15:47.000Z> Haru: Just triple confirmed the thing I alluded to before btw
<2022-09-19T15:03:33.000Z> DeDi: Damn I'm looking forward to your next post on the Farms! Also saw your RationalWiki post here, that's so kino that Ralph is now officially not notable and also officially a convicted sex offender on the only wiki irrelevant enough to give a shit. xD
<2022-09-19T15:04:31.000Z> Haru: That site is a shithole but it's no worse than his own dumpster of a blog so as far as I'm concerned it's fitting
<2022-09-19T15:08:05.000Z> DeDi: Yeah it's mostly an SJW circlejerk, I am sure they would love Ralph as the epitome of toxically-male white trash alt-right scumbaggery. He is like the poster child for their narrative of right-leaning men.
<2022-09-19T15:08:49.000Z> DeDi: A war between Ralph and RW would be a great dumpster fire to watch lol.
<2022-09-19T15:08:54.000Z> Haru: I think he's in for an unprecedentedly bad time when the forum goes back up
<2022-09-19T15:09:03.000Z> Haru: His recent behavior is radicalizing a lot of his detractors
<2022-09-19T15:12:51.000Z> DeDi: He doesn't seem to realise waging war on the internet is a horrible idea that never goes well for anyone who tries. Keffals is kinda the same way. The people working for Keffals are smart, doing this largely as anons. But people like Ralph who want to be the public face of a war against spergs like us are retards.
<2022-09-19T15:14:49.000Z> DeDi: And Ralph already had people willing to fuck with him irl. If he pisses on people who are mad and have nothing left to lose, things will only escalate for him. I'm happy to just watch and laugh. xD
<2022-09-19T15:18:05.000Z> Haru: It's just weird to me that he's lying so hard and in a way that he KNOWS will be debunked soon, about how the forum is dead forever
<2022-09-19T15:26:00.000Z> DeDi: I have come to see Ralph as pure Id. He just reacts to things, primarily out of lust, gluttony or spite. He has zero foresight or self control. He really is like a kind of rage pig in that way, lol.
<2022-09-19T15:28:59.000Z> Haru: That is true, and why I call him a living greedy algorithm, since he has literally no ability to look to the long term
<2022-09-19T15:30:30.000Z> DeDi: Yep and this turns him into a one-man L machine, lmao.
<2022-09-19T15:34:46.000Z> Haru: youtube.com/watch?v=Tg2vgmBfxmU Mister Gunt I don't feel so good
<2022-09-19T15:44:44.000Z> DeDi: Oh SHIT lol. About time they came back, I take it they were doing some Sasgunt huntin' in the bog? xD
<2022-09-19T15:48:26.000Z> DeDi: Wait, did PPP buy Ralph's land? Lol this sounds like bullshit but I want to believe meme magic is real. xD
<2022-09-19T15:49:48.000Z> Haru: Seems very unlikely and I don't have time to look into it now unfortunately
<2022-09-19T15:54:29.000Z> DeDi: I saw Kinochet posting about it, given this is PPP I am inclined to believe it's gayfabe based on something Ralph has actually done with his land unrelated to Ashton.
<2022-09-19T15:54:59.000Z> DeDi: Still I expect Ralph is fixin' ta holler right about now. ;D
<2022-09-21T18:31:08.000Z> Haru: Oh my God he's relitigating the dog lynching stream right now LOL
<2022-09-21T18:31:19.000Z> Haru: He's already cycled through the kitchen chair and now he's back on the oven
<2022-09-23T16:14:34.000Z> DeDi: Ah FINALLY, my chat page has been totally broken for the past couple of days lol, it would not load at all. 
<2022-09-23T16:15:16.000Z> DeDi: Yeah I caught the dog hollerin, it was the same nonsensical cope as before lol
<2022-09-23T16:15:29.000Z> DeDi: Is it true he has fled to Mexico? xD
<2022-09-23T18:34:48.000Z> Haru: It's unclear and I think it's just a meme
<2022-09-23T18:35:07.000Z> Haru: He had Youtube Mexico up and he had that weird search history about moving to Mexico but it's probably disinfo
<2022-09-23T19:01:41.000Z> DeDi: I saw Jim making jokes about Ralph's internet cutting out at the same time earthquakes are happening in Mexico. Figured it was probably just meming but you never know with Ralph. xD
<2022-09-23T19:26:20.000Z> Haru: He's seething about me right now LET'S GO
<2022-09-23T19:26:47.000Z> DeDi: LOL lemme open it in a tab xD
<2022-09-23T19:27:28.000Z> DeDi: HAHAHA he has you on his screen!
<2022-09-23T19:27:44.000Z> Haru: :gunt:
<2022-09-23T19:27:52.000Z> DeDi: :gunt:
<2022-09-24T19:48:42.000Z> Haru: I think BigTech is about to get amputated like a diseased limb
<2022-09-25T23:08:49.000Z> DeDi: Goddammit this chat is broken again. It does not tell me when I get a new message.
<2022-09-25T23:09:11.000Z> DeDi: And yeah, I saw someone post saying he's been kick off Cozy like 5 mins ago. :o
<2022-09-25T23:10:33.000Z> Haru: He had a roughly 18 hour meltdown stream, it was kino
<2022-09-25T23:10:50.000Z> Haru: Even the piggy has never had a meltdown THAT long and continuous before
<2022-09-25T23:11:17.000Z> DeDi: I'm so out of the loop on this stuff without the farms :/
<2022-09-25T23:11:43.000Z> Haru: Ethan's entire chat is shitting on him now
<2022-09-25T23:12:06.000Z> DeDi: I'm hearing a lot of stuff tho, like Anglin is mad at BigTech, and Beardson is involved, and Nick also... what about Ralph?
<2022-09-25T23:12:10.000Z> Haru: Trump said something against 'Big Tech' as in the elites of Silicon Valley and his chat is jokingly pretending they're referrin to the guy
<2022-09-25T23:12:16.000Z> DeDi: LOL yes! :gunt:
<2022-09-25T23:12:40.000Z> Haru: Ethan tried to make peace between BigTech and Beardson but gave up and went to bed LOL
<2022-09-25T23:12:51.000Z> Haru: This was like hour 4 of the meltdown so you can see how effective it was
<2022-09-25T23:13:00.000Z> DeDi: Surely this looks bad for Ralph, BigTech was his guy after all
<2022-09-25T23:13:07.000Z> Haru: Ethan even joked about how he had absolutely no success on Twitter yesterday, that's what his Nobel Peace Price tweet was about
<2022-09-25T23:13:23.000Z> Haru: Yeah it's pretty bad for the Gunt
<2022-09-25T23:13:52.000Z> Haru: Anglin posted extensively about BigTech on his forum and BigTech saw it and melted down
<2022-09-25T23:14:13.000Z> DeDi: Does Nick have the balls to cut the gunt loose though?
<2022-09-25T23:14:15.000Z> Haru: And then they got into a back and forth kinda like me in chat vs Ethan on stream, except it was Anglin posting on the forum and BigTech responding on air
<2022-09-25T23:14:18.000Z> Haru: I doubt it
<2022-09-25T23:14:39.000Z> Haru: There were some kino moments like a fake Azzmador getting made a mod in his chat and banning everyone
<2022-09-25T23:15:01.000Z> Haru: And then BigTech tried to claim it was all pre-planned gayfabe and that it wasn't a serious beef but nobody went along with it so he just flipped back to melting down
<2022-09-25T23:15:13.000Z> DeDi: So is Ralph siding with Anglin, or trying to stay neutral?
<2022-09-25T23:15:24.000Z> Haru: He has a DISTURBINGLY flat affect and is almost definitely an actual psychopath so it's impossible to tell what he's thinking
<2022-09-25T23:15:30.000Z> Haru: Even Anglin's guys have been talking about this
<2022-09-25T23:15:45.000Z> Haru: One of them did a massive effortpost about him being a psychopath (which I've said from the start)
<2022-09-25T23:16:09.000Z> Haru: I don't think Ethan has taken a public position although he's dogwhistled anti-BigTech sentiment
<2022-09-25T23:16:16.000Z> DeDi: Well he beats women and children and clearly has no remorse over that
<2022-09-25T23:16:24.000Z> Haru: That's true
<2022-09-25T23:16:35.000Z> Haru: Although to be frank I'm team BigTech on this
<2022-09-25T23:16:56.000Z> Haru: He's a child abuser and a spousal abuser and a psychpath but Anglin's a self-admitted pedophile so BigTech can go off on him all he wants
<2022-09-25T23:17:09.000Z> DeDi: Ralph will snake his capo without hesitation to stay tight with Nick, we've seen him do this before. Hell he snaked on Baked just to suck up to Jim back in 2018.
<2022-09-25T23:17:40.000Z> Haru: Definitely true.  BigTech going after Beardson was retarded
<2022-09-25T23:17:56.000Z> DeDi: Oh yeah Anglin is a real piece of shit and I hope he doesn't get any W out of this drama
<2022-09-25T23:18:11.000Z> Haru: And it's because of narcissistic injury since Beardson went on air and scolded him for going onto Destiny's show and doubling down on his mass flagging
<2022-09-25T23:18:59.000Z> DeDi: But I thought Nick and the groypers loved flagging people now? xD
<2022-09-25T23:19:15.000Z> Haru: He's actually had to walk that position back somewhat
<2022-09-25T23:19:29.000Z> Haru: He basically says that argument was made in another time and that things are different now
<2022-09-25T23:19:59.000Z> DeDi: Well that's funny after Jim already explained to him why flagging campaigns are a fucking stupid idea, lol
<2022-09-25T23:20:04.000Z> Haru: Many think he's being disingenuous but I personally think he's being sincere and that after seeing what happened to us he's scared of Cozy getting flagged off of Cloudflare 
<2022-09-25T23:20:29.000Z> DeDi: Oh wow, you flag people and then shit comes back on you, what a shock!
<2022-09-25T23:20:57.000Z> Haru: Yeah, exactly, this is the problem with hugboxes, you think you're invincible until the enemy's right at your door
<2022-09-25T23:21:27.000Z> DeDi: Yeah so basically everything he does and every stance he takes comes from self-interest. Flagging is cool when we're silencing people we dislike. Flagging is not cool when it might jeopardize my website.
<2022-09-25T23:22:09.000Z> DeDi: Exactly right. Nick was happy to laugh like a child safe behind the Cozy walls. Now he feels less safe, and he's not laughing.
<2022-09-25T23:23:04.000Z> Haru: And I'll give Nick the minimum D- amount of credit that he's actually changed his stance before it's 100% too late...although he's riding the curve on this one because the Gunt gets a 0%
<2022-09-25T23:23:52.000Z> Haru: Even now the Gunt openly calls for mass flagging when his own fat ass is on the line
<2022-09-25T23:24:07.000Z> DeDi: I think he thought he could use Ralph to do his dirty work, slandering people, harassing them etc. Not realising that when you take on the pig in your house, you're taking all his pigshit as well.
<2022-09-25T23:24:10.000Z> Haru: He just exists in a perpetual state of narc rage because his ego is so fragile anything but effusive support causes narc injury
<2022-09-25T23:24:40.000Z> Haru: Yeah, exactly...the problem with the pig is that he's such a belligerent retard you can only use him for so long, and then once you're done with him, how do you get rid of him?
<2022-09-25T23:25:07.000Z> Haru: If Nick was smarter, he would have supported Ethan from afar, told him to stay on Odysee, and used him as a cat's paw from there
<2022-09-25T23:25:14.000Z> Haru: It would be less effective but you'd have way less risk too
<2022-09-25T23:25:24.000Z> DeDi: Using Ralph as a weapon is like using Chlorine gas during a hurricane. xD
<2022-09-25T23:25:31.000Z> Haru: But Nick is a narc too, albeit a smarter one, so he thought he could handle it
<2022-09-25T23:25:34.000Z> Haru: Yeah basically
<2022-09-25T23:26:56.000Z> DeDi: Nick is pure Ego, Ralph is pure Id. They just need their Superego streamer and together they'll be one functional person lol.
<2022-09-25T23:28:00.000Z> Haru: :gunt:
<2022-09-25T23:28:18.000Z> Haru: I hope the forum's back soon so we can really get into this stuff.  So much has happened and fallen through the cracks in just a week
<2022-09-25T23:29:48.000Z> DeDi: I knew Ralph would do this, he does this every time lol. He moves to some new alt-tech streaming platform, starts drama, throws shit, invites a bunch of mentally unstable autists on to serve as his personal army, everything goes to shit and the site dies. He does this EVERY FUCKING TIME! 
<2022-09-25T23:30:38.000Z> DeDi: Yeah I feel like there has been so much content and I just can't properly get on top of it without the farms. Hell even Kino Casino would be helpful since they used to cover this shit.
<2022-09-25T23:31:20.000Z> Haru: Yeah I'm having trouble keeping up too, I had to research the Anglin stuff myself
<2022-09-25T23:32:10.000Z> DeDi: I don't know a huge amount about Anglin, I know he ran the Daily Stormer and he used to fuck asian kids in the jungle
<2022-09-25T23:32:48.000Z> Haru: And yeah the cycle is continuing onward, too.  Ethan's making overtures with Rokfin, a new subscription service that he's clearly hoping will be the second coming of killstream.tv (but not with that domain, since JP5656 owns it).  He's also been starting to test Rumble.  It's clear that he knows Cozy's day is coming
<2022-09-25T23:32:51.000Z> Haru: He's a creep
<2022-09-25T23:33:24.000Z> Haru: Ultra-misogynist pedophile pseud who has drugged whatever cognitive faculties he used to have into oblivion
<2022-09-25T23:33:52.000Z> Haru: Basically a parody of what a person would expect from one of these e-Nazi grifters
<2022-09-25T23:34:12.000Z> Haru: He should've have been kicked off of Cloudflare because no one should be but he's a total degenerate waste of oxygen
<2022-09-25T23:34:17.000Z> Haru: *shouldn't have been
<2022-09-25T23:34:32.000Z> DeDi: Youtube, Stream.me, Dlive, Trovo, Odysee, Cozy, now Rumble... at this point he should just be blacklisted. He fucks up and either gets banned or tanks the site every time.
<2022-09-25T23:35:49.000Z> Haru: It's true.  He's a cancer that just metastasizes across the body of the internet, and when the chemo routs him out of one tissue, he shows up in another
<2022-09-25T23:36:17.000Z> DeDi: I remember Anglin debating Sargon and he came across as an autistic loser. Incel type spastic energy.
<2022-09-25T23:36:35.000Z> Haru: Let him put up his own website and stream there.  I think that should be allowed, like he shouldn't be banned from owning a domain or using Cloudflare, but other than that he shouldn't get any sort of institutional support from anyone
<2022-09-25T23:37:18.000Z> DeDi: Yes Ralph is pretty much a parasite who just feeds off a host to sustain himself, then moves onto the next when it dies.
<2022-09-25T23:37:36.000Z> Haru: Yeah he basically is an incel that can only get laid if he does sex tourism, although part of that may be his pedophilia just making him totally uninterested in trying with any adult
<2022-09-25T23:38:20.000Z> DeDi: Ralph doesn't have the money or the technical skills to build his own website, or do anything productive for that matter.
<2022-09-25T23:38:39.000Z> Haru: Like he STILL, to this day, advocates for child marriage.  He specifically said (in that screenshot I posted that Josh pulled up on his show a few weeks ago) that he supports child marriages "consummated before the onset of menstruation", which happens around ages 9-11
<2022-09-25T23:38:51.000Z> Haru: He's a full-on pedo, like the literal dictionary definition, prepubescent kids
<2022-09-25T23:39:04.000Z> Haru: That was like a month ago he posted that
<2022-09-25T23:39:23.000Z> Haru: Yeah, he doesn't have those skills, and he should be gone until he develops them.  Free ride is over piggy
<2022-09-25T23:39:32.000Z> DeDi: The weirdest thing with Anglin is he spent years living with some uncontacted tribe in the jungle in some asian country. He was like some kind of white pedophile shaman lol.
<2022-09-25T23:40:27.000Z> Haru: Yeah he's just a bizarre person in general, and he has his own weird cult of personality too
<2022-09-25T23:40:37.000Z> Haru: His forum is invite-only and is a total hugbox
<2022-09-25T23:40:57.000Z> Haru: There are only like 10 active users
<2022-09-25T23:41:01.000Z> DeDi: I have seen a lot of wignats argue for child marriage. It seems to be a common view. I saw some claiming girls are like ducks, and if you fuck them during puberty they fall in love with you forever. And I've seen others say "we need to fuck them before the Pakis do" or words to that effect.
<2022-09-25T23:41:26.000Z> Haru: He should go be a Muslim then.  Muhammad himself was a pedophile that married a 6-year-old
<2022-09-25T23:42:01.000Z> DeDi: Lol yeah, sometimes I think Islam would suit these guys a lot more than Christianity does.
<2022-09-25T23:42:10.000Z> DeDi: But then most of them are alcoholics, so maybe not. xD
<2022-09-25T23:42:16.000Z> Haru: True
<2022-09-25T23:42:38.000Z> Haru: Although none of these guys follow Christian tenets either.  Like Ethan's constant retarded interpretation of the Second Commandment makes me want to kill myself
<2022-09-25T23:42:55.000Z> Haru: Broke: "God Damn"; Woke: "God is a huge fan of the Killstream"
<2022-09-25T23:43:06.000Z> Haru: (This is the inverse of what the 2nd actually means)
<2022-09-25T23:43:47.000Z> Haru: I don't want to religion sperg but his misunderstandings about his own professed theology is just so stupid
<2022-09-25T23:44:11.000Z> Haru: If he actually did go to Catholic school as he claims he could not POSSIBLY have passed any theology classes
<2022-09-25T23:44:16.000Z> DeDi: The only part of Christian theology that seems to resonate with Ralph is the idea of hell. He gets visibly excited when he starts fantasizing on his show about people like Josh or Jim burning forever in hell. It's a religion of spite for him.
<2022-09-25T23:45:34.000Z> Haru: Essentially yeah
<2022-09-25T23:45:41.000Z> DeDi: I went to Catholic school myself, I can imagine Ralph did but was just a shitty stupid who was dumb, lazy and spent most of his classes being disruptive trying to make the other kids laugh. Much like how he still is now.
<2022-09-25T23:45:59.000Z> DeDi: stupid kid*
<2022-09-25T23:46:12.000Z> Haru: And even his OWN arguments in favor of spite-based theology are hilariously poor.  Like he could be throwing Psalm 109 left and right but he's never even quoted it
<2022-09-25T23:46:32.000Z> Haru: He should just declare himself a member of the Calvinist Elect and be done with it
<2022-09-25T23:47:17.000Z> Haru: No but as per his own testimony he was VERY popular among the teachers, who he referred to by their first names, and led a gang of violent 5th graders and basically ran the school
<2022-09-25T23:47:19.000Z> Haru: :gunt:
<2022-09-25T23:47:49.000Z> Haru: He said this in the 2nd dog lynching stream, every time that topic comes up it's a fractal expansion of cope
<2022-09-25T23:48:26.000Z> DeDi: I don't think he is really religious, I think he just likes to incorporate Christian vengeance into his rhetoric for dramatic effect. He said himself many times on his show that he was not religious before he befriended Nick. If he claims to be religious now it's just to fit in with the groypers.
<2022-09-25T23:49:00.000Z> DeDi: Oh yeah I forgot he was the Class Clown and a Hometown Hero. :gunt:
<2022-09-25T23:49:06.000Z> Haru: Yeah, that's basically my point, it's an aesthetic for him and like every other aspect of his life he incorporates it very poorly
<2022-09-25T23:49:40.000Z> Haru: I want him to declare himself a neocharismatic and start claiming to have magical powers
<2022-09-25T23:51:04.000Z> DeDi: Very true, same with his politics. I don't believe his view on politics really extends much further than what makes it easier for him to get drugs and hookers.
<2022-09-25T23:51:36.000Z> DeDi: I can believe there is magic in the gunt. :gunt: xD
<2022-09-25T23:51:57.000Z> Haru: I definitely agree with that.  He just does what he wants to do and constructs post hoc justifications for whatever that is
<2022-09-25T23:52:03.000Z> Haru: Most people do that to an extent but that's ALL he does
<2022-09-25T23:52:15.000Z> Haru: That's why he'd be the perfect Calvinist
<2022-09-25T23:53:22.000Z> Haru: Yeah one could argue that when he melts down especially hard he starts speaking in tongues, what with all the guttural moaning and grunting he does
<2022-09-25T23:53:22.000Z> DeDi: Indeed. If Israel offered him a million dollars, he would change the name of his show to the Zioniststream and explain how he had an epiphany about Israel actually being our greatest ally. And anyone who complained in his chat would just be banned.
<2022-09-25T23:54:01.000Z> Haru: >ackshually I've been pro-Zionist from the very start, you can see that in one of my old tweets because I have no consistent position so I have at least one tweet espousing literally everything
<2022-09-25T23:54:21.000Z> DeDi: It's the Gunt assuming direct control Haru, that's why he sounds like a pig demon. ;D
<2022-09-25T23:55:19.000Z> DeDi: "AH WUZ FRENS WITH MILO AND LAURA LEWMER, DIDN'T YEW FUCKERS PAY ATTENTION? AH'VE AWLWAYS LUVVED IZRIEL!"
<2022-09-25T23:59:27.000Z> DeDi: Oh I just noticed Kino Casino has a show planned tonight? Starting in an hour and a half. I'm gonna watch and hope they cover this recent shit. ;)
<2022-09-26T00:09:59.000Z> Haru: Yeah Ethan is more Gunt than man at this point, and that process is only accelerating
<2022-09-26T00:10:05.000Z> Haru: And thanks for letting me know I didn't even notice
<2022-09-26T00:10:19.000Z> Haru: I hope they snipe the piggy
<2022-09-26T00:12:08.000Z> DeDi: No problem, I'm sure they will have their sights firmly set on Ralph's pigslits. ;D
<2022-09-26T01:35:14.000Z> DeDi: Youtube is being weird, if you don't see the stream in your feed here is the link: youtube.com/watch?v=XZVYpBXSwrM
<2022-09-26T05:17:10.000Z> Haru: Thanks.  I actually got caught up in something else and will have to watch the replay anyway
<2022-09-27T20:54:36.000Z> DeDi: Hey Haru, I got an email from Josh to reset my password, it says to click a button... I see a link but it's not hyperlinked, I can't click it. Have you been able to restore your account? I'm wondering if it's just me or if other people are having this issue.
<2022-09-27T20:56:00.000Z> Haru: I had no issue with the link
<2022-09-27T20:56:26.000Z> Haru: Maybe if you view the source you can see the link
<2022-09-27T20:57:40.000Z> Haru: The link starts kiwifarms.net/security-lock/
<2022-09-27T20:58:00.000Z> Haru: And then has a bunch of account-specific stuff after
<2022-09-27T20:58:46.000Z> DeDi: Ok I found that, looking through now
<2022-09-27T20:59:35.000Z> Haru: Great
<2022-09-27T21:00:33.000Z> DeDi: Again I see the link but I can't click it, it just shows as regular text :/
<2022-09-27T21:01:01.000Z> DeDi: I'm using outlook, could that be an issue?
<2022-09-27T21:01:16.000Z> DeDi: Sorry I suck with computers lol
<2022-09-27T21:02:00.000Z> Haru: Just copy and paste it
<2022-09-27T21:02:26.000Z> DeDi: Tried that, it gave me an error
<2022-09-27T21:03:15.000Z> Haru: The full link looks like kiwifarms.net/security-lock/[id_number]/reset?c=[hash]
<2022-09-27T21:04:08.000Z> DeDi: Oh I see, I must have found the wrong one? I'll look through the source again
<2022-09-27T21:06:05.000Z> DeDi: Oh btw I'm trying this on Tor, not on .net. The email said it was for Tor.
<2022-09-27T21:06:25.000Z> Haru: TOR service is down at the moment I think
<2022-09-27T21:06:53.000Z> DeDi: ok lemme try .net see if that works better
<2022-09-27T21:08:33.000Z> DeDi: Ok I was able to resend the pw request from .net, let's see if I get a better link this time ;D
<2022-09-27T21:09:53.000Z> Haru: Ok
<2022-09-27T21:11:00.000Z> DeDi: YES it worked! :gunt:
<2022-09-27T21:11:16.000Z> Haru: Excellent, congrats
<2022-09-27T21:12:36.000Z> DeDi: Ty. This time I have gone with a 'very strong' password, hehe :P
<2022-09-27T21:12:54.000Z> Haru: Yeah mine are always like 20 characters
<2022-09-27T21:14:59.000Z> DeDi: Better be safe than sorry. The one I had before was not awful but not good either. I'm gonna try and be better with opsec lol
<2022-09-27T21:16:06.000Z> Haru: For what it's worth I see zero evidence of an actual leak
<2022-09-27T21:16:27.000Z> Haru: Whoever did the breach seems like they fucked it up
<2022-09-27T21:17:05.000Z> DeDi: Yeah I'm inclined to believe Josh that they probably tried to download everything at once and crashed the site, then Josh locked it and they got nothing, lol
<2022-09-27T21:17:33.000Z> Haru: Probably some two-bit tranny with no real skills that just got lucky
<2022-09-27T21:17:53.000Z> DeDi: It's weird that some guy posted a letter from Yorkshire police, I guess it's probably a gay-op. But PPP was running with it as legit.
<2022-09-27T21:18:19.000Z> Haru: PPP was also saying the blatantly fake narrative about me being a troon was legit
<2022-09-27T21:18:25.000Z> DeDi: lol true
<2022-09-27T21:18:37.000Z> DeDi: he likes to make up narratives 
<2022-09-27T21:18:56.000Z> Haru: If the letter IS legit it would be due to a previous data request, not the leak
<2022-09-27T21:19:32.000Z> Haru: All they could get from the leak is the IP and then they'd have to go to court to get the person's info from the ISP and that would take some time
<2022-09-27T21:19:49.000Z> DeDi: Yeah I read up on the cited laws in that letter, if it's real then this guy is being accused of actual harassment, stalking and threats of violence. Not typical farms activities. 
<2022-09-27T21:21:14.000Z> DeDi: Some people were looking at the letter and saying fonts and placements were incorrect. But the YP letters they compared it to were from like 2008 so fuck knows if that means anything.
<2022-09-27T21:22:57.000Z> Haru: Yeah it's hard to say, but given that the source was Vordrak, who is unhinged, I disbelieve it
<2022-09-27T21:24:20.000Z> DeDi: oh LOL I didn't know it came straight from Vordrak. Well in that case yeah it's fake, I believe he has done this before in the past. He has some paralegal training so would know how to cite law and make a fake letter seem legit. He should stop sending fake police letters though... the real police would not like it. ;)
<2022-09-27T21:24:59.000Z> Haru: He was on the piggy's stream being totally unhinged and he looks middle aged
<2022-09-27T21:25:21.000Z> DeDi: O rly? Wow I have missed a lot. 
<2022-09-27T21:25:34.000Z> DeDi: Ralph and Sam, what a winning team xD
<2022-09-27T21:26:02.000Z> Haru: Ethan was smuckling about the site being down because he's too lazy to check
<2022-09-27T21:26:10.000Z> DeDi: oh also the phone number on that letter was a Glasgow number, I forgot that detail, lol
<2022-09-27T21:26:28.000Z> DeDi: Ralph is gonna seethe when he sees we are back up
<2022-09-27T21:27:22.000Z> Haru: Yeah he's going to be asshurt and I dabbed on him within like 5 minutes of it being up so he'll see the timestamps and know I've been counting the Ls
<2022-09-27T21:28:01.000Z> Haru: UH OH Ethan accidentally played Dingo saying nigger on air and visibly shrunk back
<2022-09-27T21:28:14.000Z> Haru: Slapped for the pause button in desperation
<2022-09-27T21:28:37.000Z> DeDi: lmao, he is so cucked on Cozy. Has to accept being number 2 and self-censoring. xD
<2022-09-27T21:28:52.000Z> DeDi: and they don't even like him there lol
<2022-09-27T21:28:56.000Z> DeDi: sad!
<2022-09-27T21:29:48.000Z> Haru: He also literally said, word for word, "I can say anything I want on Rokfin".  This is beyond parody.  Reset the clock.
<2022-09-27T21:30:41.000Z> DeDi: give it 6 months and he'll be threatening to hang the owners of Rokfin from lamp posts in a drunken rage :gunt:
<2022-09-27T21:31:38.000Z> Haru: True
<2022-09-27T21:33:06.000Z> Haru: Where's the Fuck Odysee Festival piggy?
<2022-09-27T21:34:24.000Z> DeDi: Hehehe, I'm just waiting for the Fuck Cozy festival. You just know the second Nick turns on him he'll be screaming about his 'nigger-loving dyke sister' xD
<2022-09-27T21:35:01.000Z> DeDi: and probably making fun of his mom's cancer as well. He always goes after the women in the most vile ways.
<2022-09-27T21:35:52.000Z> Haru: He will for sure.  Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll just have a heart attack on air before then
<2022-09-27T21:36:29.000Z> DeDi: If he carries on with his lifestyle and anger, it's only a matter of time.
<2022-09-27T21:39:31.000Z> Haru: Someone superchatted "have another heart attack you fat gimp" after he squealed at and banned them for no reason earlier
<2022-09-27T21:40:55.000Z> DeDi: LOL, so he's fighting with his audience again I take it? xD
<2022-09-27T21:43:48.000Z> Haru: Many such cases
<2022-09-27T21:45:01.000Z> DeDi: :gunt:
<2022-09-27T21:46:02.000Z> Haru: :gunt:
<2022-10-25T21:00:40.000Z> Haru: Ethan is about to play a video from Squire and Perspicacity, I think this is finally the merge 
<2022-10-27T14:12:17.000Z> DeDi: Sorry, Poast only just updated this chat now. I dunno why this chat thing is so broken for me lol. :/
<2022-10-27T14:13:04.000Z> DeDi: Makes sense, they are snaking on PPP and ofc Ralph is the 'king of the sektur' so they feed shit to him. 
<2022-10-27T14:13:59.000Z> DeDi: It's all gay e-celeb politics, very cringe to me xD
<2022-10-27T17:29:06.000Z> Haru: Yeah the sektur is rotting from the inside out at this point
<2022-10-27T17:29:19.000Z> Haru: I can't even imagine trying to explain the course of events to myself from 2 years ago
<2022-10-27T17:29:51.000Z> Haru: I hope the forum is back soon.  The Sword of Damocles is swinging above Ethan's jannies' heads and they haven't even noticed
<2022-10-27T17:31:43.000Z> DeDi: I can't even deduce a motive these days besides retards climbing over each other trying to get some e-celeb clout. It is ironic to see Persip and Squire snaking PPP, given how they snaked us before lol
<2022-10-27T17:32:14.000Z> Haru: Yeah exactly, they backstabbed us for PPP and now they're backstabbing PPP, that's why you don't ever deal with known backstabbers
<2022-10-27T17:32:24.000Z> Haru: Same with cheating spouses - if they cheated to be with you, they'll cheat on you for someone else
<2022-10-27T17:32:31.000Z> Haru: That type of person just gets written off completely
<2022-10-27T17:32:50.000Z> Haru: I'm very forgiving - to a fault, many people have told me - but that's a bridge I'll burn in a heartbeat
<2022-10-27T17:33:10.000Z> DeDi: Indeed. Trust should be more or less sacred - I personally don't believe people ever change. They just get better (or worse) at hiding their shitty behaviour.
<2022-10-27T17:33:43.000Z> Haru: I largely agree, at least for adults
<2022-10-27T17:33:55.000Z> DeDi: I could forgive Persip and Squire in as much as leaving them alone, but obviously would never work with them on anything.
<2022-10-27T17:34:11.000Z> Haru: Right.  That's where I'm at with most of the members of the Discord clique actually
<2022-10-27T17:34:23.000Z> Haru: Most of them have apologized to me in private (this is not to be mentioned publicly)
<2022-10-27T17:34:50.000Z> Haru: I won't name names or say what was said because I never discuss private communication but they've done a lot more than Persip and Squire
<2022-10-27T17:34:57.000Z> DeDi: Gotcha, well it's good that they are leaving you alone now 
<2022-10-27T17:35:06.000Z> Haru: Also I love how "Persip" is canon now because no podcaster can EVER pronounce his name
<2022-10-27T17:35:27.000Z> DeDi: hahaha, yeah I just ran with it because PPP calls him that xD
<2022-10-27T17:35:29.000Z> Haru: Ethan, Josh, PPP, Andy, and at least a few others have ALL failed in their own way
<2022-10-27T17:35:37.000Z> Haru: Oh yeah Ade also failed
<2022-10-27T17:35:51.000Z> DeDi: Per spic a city is how I say it
<2022-10-27T17:36:02.000Z> Haru: Yes, that's correct, it's not even that hard
<2022-10-27T17:36:28.000Z> Haru: "Persip" is so unrelated to the actual name it's even worse than Ethan's butchered pronunciation of my name
<2022-10-27T17:36:31.000Z> DeDi: I never struggled with it, I mean it's an actual word lol
<2022-10-27T17:36:43.000Z> DeDi: lol true xD
<2022-10-27T17:36:56.000Z> DeDi: Harooooo Okamoruuuuu
<2022-10-27T17:37:06.000Z> Haru: Ethan actually gave up pronouncing "my" last name because he got it so insanely wrong and just goes with HAROO now
<2022-10-27T17:37:26.000Z> DeDi: he still says it like Hah-rooo
<2022-10-27T17:37:42.000Z> DeDi: but maybe that is right, I ain't good on Jap spelling
<2022-10-27T17:37:49.000Z> Haru: And my detractors always spell it "Okamura", which is a DIFFERENT Japanese surname
<2022-10-27T17:38:13.000Z> Haru: The emphasis is on the first syllable and the second syllable is a short vowel
<2022-10-27T17:38:51.000Z> DeDi: I like how people ran with it in chat, "Harooooooo" lol. Dunno why but it amuses me xD
<2022-10-27T17:38:55.000Z> Haru: But HAROO is at least close enough to be understandable.  His version of "Okumura" is so wrong it couldn't be MORE wrong while still getting all the letters in there in some form or fashion
<2022-10-27T17:39:05.000Z> Haru: Gator on the other hand pronounced it perfectly when he was alogging me on air way back when
<2022-10-27T17:39:20.000Z> Haru: Yeah I think it's funny too
<2022-10-27T17:39:25.000Z> DeDi: I'm sure Gator has played Persona 5 several times
<2022-10-27T17:39:36.000Z> Haru: And whenever Josh mentions me on his show people spam it in his chat too
<2022-10-27T17:39:39.000Z> DeDi: He does like his jrpgs
<2022-10-27T17:39:44.000Z> Haru: Yeah I have no doubt
<2022-10-27T17:39:59.000Z> DeDi: Are the Farms up on Tor? Or are we down everywhere?
<2022-10-27T17:40:09.000Z> Haru: It's down entirely because there's no route to the servers at the moment
<2022-10-27T17:40:19.000Z> DeDi: damn, any word from Josh?
<2022-10-27T17:40:23.000Z> Haru: I'm not a networking person whatsoever so I can't explain it very well
<2022-10-27T17:40:40.000Z> DeDi: np I would not understand even a simplified version xD
<2022-10-27T17:40:51.000Z> Haru: Not to my knowledge.  I think he wants to work in secret so he can't get cut off at the pass and wants to make use of inertia to keep it running one it's up completely
<2022-10-27T17:41:07.000Z> DeDi: Hmm, that's smart of him I guess
<2022-10-27T17:41:13.000Z> Haru: I agree that that's the best strategy
<2022-10-27T17:41:21.000Z> Haru: It's annoying on our end but it's operationally appropriate
<2022-10-27T17:41:21.000Z> DeDi: frustrating for us but more frustrating for the troon legions
<2022-10-27T17:41:27.000Z> DeDi: yeah
<2022-10-27T17:41:51.000Z> Haru: He's legitimately running out of options, no matter what the narrative is, so it's important to be very circumspect at this point
<2022-10-27T17:42:06.000Z> DeDi: Yeah I'm kinda bracing myself for the site more or less dying
<2022-10-27T17:42:27.000Z> Haru: No matter what happens I'm gonna find somewhere to dab on those jannies
<2022-10-27T17:42:43.000Z> DeDi: hehehe, same. I guess Fediverse is ok
<2022-10-27T17:42:54.000Z> Haru: Even if I have to go to "Website Zero" 
<2022-10-27T17:42:59.000Z> Haru: Which I've never used before
<2022-10-27T17:43:14.000Z> DeDi: Me neither, that is the one that doxxed Keffals right?
<2022-10-27T17:43:17.000Z> Haru: Yes
<2022-10-27T17:43:26.000Z> DeDi: what's the url?
<2022-10-27T17:43:37.000Z> Haru: I don't want to type it in case it autoflags my account
<2022-10-27T17:43:45.000Z> DeDi: ah fair enough
<2022-10-27T17:43:59.000Z> DeDi: np I'll find it somehow
<2022-10-27T17:44:10.000Z> Haru: It's docs bin dot com except the first word is typed the sektur way
<2022-10-27T17:44:28.000Z> DeDi: ah ty
<2022-10-27T17:44:44.000Z> DeDi: I'll keep that as a backup, there is still some small hope for the Farms
<2022-10-27T17:45:00.000Z> Haru: I think the forum will come back up at least once more
<2022-10-27T17:45:18.000Z> Haru: How long it'll last and what happens after that is what's unclear to me
<2022-10-27T17:45:32.000Z> Haru: There ARE still options, the resiliency is the issue
<2022-10-27T17:45:45.000Z> DeDi: My guess it so long as Josh is determined, he will find a way. But as it gets harder his commitment will wane.
<2022-10-27T17:45:55.000Z> DeDi: honestly it's impressive he's stuck with it this long
<2022-10-27T17:46:08.000Z> DeDi: I dunno if I could deal with this much bullshit lol
<2022-10-27T17:46:18.000Z> Haru: The troons being so smug provides a lot of spiteful motivation
<2022-10-27T17:46:37.000Z> DeDi: yeah that's true, they really are an awful opposition 
<2022-10-27T17:47:20.000Z> DeDi: their motive is also sick - wanting to hide basically crimes against children that they commit. They don't care about 'hate speech' or whatever we supposedly do.
<2022-10-27T17:47:21.000Z> Haru: From a certain point of view it's pretty funny that they're providing cover for right-wing figures like the Gunt, someone who is ideologically far more of an enemy than the forum
<2022-10-27T17:47:33.000Z> Haru: All because they're so scared to have their own personal malfeasance exposed
<2022-10-27T17:47:58.000Z> DeDi: Ralph championing the tranny crusade is pretty funny xD
<2022-10-27T17:48:11.000Z> DeDi: with his 4 tits he kinda fits in over there
<2022-10-27T17:48:18.000Z> Haru: Yeah that's pretty much the only thing even his own delusional cultists consistently push back on him for
<2022-10-27T17:48:38.000Z> Haru: Any time he says anything pro troon his chat erupts with disagreement
<2022-10-27T17:48:52.000Z> DeDi: Some of them probably have just enough braincells to realise this is opening a door to a world that will fuck them over too
<2022-10-27T17:48:53.000Z> Haru: Even his known guntsuckers do not accept that stane
<2022-10-27T17:49:16.000Z> DeDi: And yeah some of them just hate trannies
<2022-10-27T17:49:19.000Z> DeDi: most actually
<2022-10-27T17:49:32.000Z> Haru: Yeah.  The smarter Onion Farms guys also agree with that sentiment, that even if they don't like Josh it's horrible if he loses on this
<2022-10-27T17:49:55.000Z> Haru: The low-IQ retards like 4str, who I bullied off of Kiwi Farms, refuse to accept that of course
<2022-10-27T17:50:27.000Z> DeDi: Most of them at least used to be on KF, and they know they will gain members if KF goes down. For sure Keffals would target them as a refuge or the 'new' KF.
<2022-10-27T17:50:44.000Z> DeDi: 4str was always a sped lol
<2022-10-27T17:50:58.000Z> Haru: He's pretty mentally ill and still seethes about me on a regular basis over there
<2022-10-27T17:51:09.000Z> Haru: I don't even think he is or ever was part of the Discord clique, he's just his own retard
<2022-10-27T17:51:47.000Z> DeDi: I remember before the discord stuff he would still sperg in threads and go on negrating raids
<2022-10-27T17:51:58.000Z> DeDi: just one of those mad autistics
<2022-10-27T17:52:10.000Z> DeDi: gets a stick up his ass and thinks he's smarter than everyone else
<2022-10-27T17:52:19.000Z> Haru: I broke his mind when he smugly called me out over the Julian Chandra thing but was totally, demonstrably wrong, I don't think he ever posted after that
<2022-10-27T17:52:34.000Z> Haru: He didn't even negrate my reply, he just ghosted
<2022-10-27T17:52:35.000Z> Haru: Sad
<2022-10-27T17:52:59.000Z> DeDi: I remember Josh getting annoyed with him a few times as well
<2022-10-27T17:53:14.000Z> Haru: Yeah he's ultra-butthurt about Josh as well.  Most of his posts are crying about me and Josh
<2022-10-27T17:53:38.000Z> DeDi: pretty standard for onion/lolcow farms lol
<2022-10-27T17:53:56.000Z> Haru: I don't even know why, any fights with me were ones he picked and then lost, like why keep fighting someone you know you can't beat?
<2022-10-27T17:54:06.000Z> DeDi: they pretty much just exist for people banned from KF to seethe about Josh/mods/other users after getting banned 
<2022-10-27T17:54:21.000Z> DeDi: hubris I guess, the retard kind :P
<2022-10-27T17:54:33.000Z> Haru: Like that dumbass really thought he knew more about LBRY than me? How delusional can you be? What did you expect to happen when you pinged me and made a gay callout post, that I wouldn't blow you out publicly?
<2022-10-27T17:55:02.000Z> DeDi: best case he was trolling, worst case, total lack of self-awareness
<2022-10-27T17:55:13.000Z> DeDi: since he went to the splinters, probably the latter
<2022-10-27T17:55:17.000Z> Haru: Given how furious he was getting I don't think he was trolling
<2022-10-27T17:55:34.000Z> DeDi: he legit would get mad
<2022-10-27T17:55:50.000Z> DeDi: I think he got mad at me once over something trivial too, a long time ago, lol
<2022-10-27T17:55:53.000Z> Haru: Although I did like his schizo rant that I was the leader of a secret anti-Ethan cabal and that Vickers and Josh were both taking orders from me, that was funny
<2022-10-27T17:55:56.000Z> DeDi: in the PPP thread iirc
<2022-10-27T17:56:35.000Z> DeDi: A lot of people seemed to think you were working for Vickers. But leading him and Josh... LOL
<2022-10-27T17:56:38.000Z> Haru: The fact that I buried the hatchet with Gator has also frustrated him badly since now he can't ironically Gatorguard to attack me, which was one of his main lines of attack on me
<2022-10-27T17:56:59.000Z> Haru: Yeah a lot of people did think I was working for Vickers, which is wrong but at least an understandable position to take given what was visible publicly
<2022-10-27T17:57:19.000Z> Haru: But his schizo theory was so delusional it was hilarious
<2022-10-27T17:57:20.000Z> DeDi: Buffalo also used to say Josh was working for you, iirc that's one of the reasons he gave for insisting Josh ban you
<2022-10-27T17:57:33.000Z> Haru: Yeah I remember that meltdown he had
<2022-10-27T17:57:45.000Z> Haru: He was Discorded up to his neck and then they disavowed him and he snapped
<2022-10-27T17:58:14.000Z> DeDi: He was very weird about it, a lot of people were
<2022-10-27T17:58:23.000Z> DeDi: I don't get these grudges lol
<2022-10-27T17:58:38.000Z> DeDi: he kept asking me to ask you to DM him
<2022-10-27T17:58:41.000Z> DeDi: weird stuff
<2022-10-27T17:58:43.000Z> Haru: I don't really know what that guy's problem was.  I think he had some parasocial delusion about Josh
<2022-10-27T17:58:48.000Z> Haru: Really? That's pretty strange
<2022-10-27T17:59:03.000Z> DeDi: Yeah he kept saying you were dodging him in DMs
<2022-10-27T17:59:11.000Z> DeDi: saying he wanted to be nice and apologise
<2022-10-27T17:59:20.000Z> DeDi: I dunno maybe it was trolling
<2022-10-27T17:59:28.000Z> Haru: I ignored one DM from him where he was getting weird and asking me questions and that's all he ever sent me
<2022-10-27T17:59:39.000Z> DeDi: yeah I think it was about that
<2022-10-27T17:59:46.000Z> DeDi: he was salty you didn't respond
<2022-10-27T17:59:49.000Z> Haru: I think he had some weird jealously that I'd talk with Josh in chat and Josh would regularly respond to me
<2022-10-27T18:00:09.000Z> DeDi: Stealing his e-daddy I guess, haha
<2022-10-27T18:00:16.000Z> Haru: Yeah.  I was too busy to respond the same day and then he got really hostile about it in chat the next day so I decided not to respond at all because I don't like it when people act entitled to my time or attention
<2022-10-27T18:00:44.000Z> DeDi: He probably just wanted to bait you to feed stuff to his group anyway
<2022-10-27T18:00:55.000Z> Haru: But this was WAY after he was hostile to me, like months after
<2022-10-27T18:00:58.000Z> DeDi: it was around the time they were doing their ops
<2022-10-27T18:01:06.000Z> Haru: And he definitely did not apologize, either
<2022-10-27T18:01:17.000Z> DeDi: ok so he lied to me then lol
<2022-10-27T18:01:22.000Z> DeDi: I'm shocked xD
<2022-10-27T18:01:35.000Z> Haru: The DM itself was amicable but he did not apologize
<2022-10-27T18:02:04.000Z> DeDi: Well he got real mad you wouldn't reply. Which is funny tbh. xD
<2022-10-27T18:02:25.000Z> Haru: Yeah it's pretty pathetic.  Speaks also to his parasocial attachment to people with any notoriety, even the tiny crumb of clout that I have
<2022-10-27T18:02:51.000Z> DeDi: it's that neet lifestyle I guess
<2022-10-27T18:02:59.000Z> Haru: Like I'd be annoyed if ANYONE sperged about me not responding to a DM the same day, even someone I liked, let alone someone who had been shitting on me almost daily for months
<2022-10-27T18:03:08.000Z> DeDi: I imagine for a lot of these guys Discord is their social life
<2022-10-27T18:03:17.000Z> Haru: And that was the period I was getting an insane amount of DMs too
<2022-10-27T18:03:36.000Z> Haru: Everybody wanted a piece of me this past spring, for better or for worse
<2022-10-27T18:03:56.000Z> DeDi: If I were in your shoes I would have ignored his DM, busy or not lol
<2022-10-27T18:04:36.000Z> Haru: It definitely seemed like he was trying to pull something too.  I can't remember what he was asking specifically but he was like trying to ask why I had such animosity towards the Gunt
<2022-10-27T18:04:47.000Z> DeDi: I would assume he wants a reaction, even telling him to fuck off would be sent back to the discord as 'lol look he is seething'
<2022-10-27T18:05:00.000Z> Haru: Which, like, I've spoken about publicly many times.  He tried to spread disinformation that I was a pedophile and threatened to shoot me in the head.  It's not really complicated 
<2022-10-27T18:05:15.000Z> DeDi: Imagine asking for a reason why someone does not like Ethan fucking Ralph xD
<2022-10-27T18:05:37.000Z> DeDi: and yeah that's a decent enough reason, for sure
<2022-10-27T18:05:46.000Z> Haru: Yeah.  Fortunately he seems to have mostly fucked off and barely posted anymore towards the end
<2022-10-27T18:06:05.000Z> DeDi: I did see him in the chat recently but he was being 'normal' I think
<2022-10-27T18:06:23.000Z> Haru: His own former associates sent me leaks on him too that I never posted, so he should be pretty damn grateful that I approach things the way I do.  Most people in the sektur would not be so lenient
<2022-10-27T18:07:04.000Z> DeDi: good of you, for sure most people would leak stuff even if just for the lolz
<2022-10-27T18:07:20.000Z> Haru: A bunch of them tried to use me as a weapon against each other during the schism but I refused to get involved at all
<2022-10-27T18:07:33.000Z> Haru: I'm just not out to infight, period
<2022-10-27T18:07:39.000Z> DeDi: I take the same approach though, I don't leak stuff unless it's like criminal activity
<2022-10-27T18:08:05.000Z> Haru: Like I was sent some really dire personal stuff about one of them, and it was one of them I have legit animosity towards, and I still didn't post it
<2022-10-27T18:08:10.000Z> DeDi: even then, criminal activity I have a moral issue with. If someone tells me they are buying coke or whatever I don't really care.
<2022-10-27T18:08:17.000Z> Haru: Yeah, likewise
<2022-10-27T18:08:51.000Z> Haru: The funniest Discord clique schism moment was when I accidentally provoked a full-on civil war in the chat with a mild Empresa joke
<2022-10-27T18:09:00.000Z> Haru: I can't remember if you were there for that but it was INSANE
<2022-10-27T18:09:23.000Z> DeDi: Possibly, but there was also so much Empresa drama it's hard to keep track of xD
<2022-10-27T18:09:32.000Z> DeDi: always*
<2022-10-27T18:09:50.000Z> Haru: It was when Faith's boyfriend got doxed and he was shown to be Hispanic, so I said something like "Whoa, so Faith was dating Empresa this entire time?"
<2022-10-27T18:10:15.000Z> Haru: And then Vetti showed up and started spamming Empresa's dox, and then the ENTIRE Discord clique appeared almost all at once on their socks and started fighting and dropping partial dox on each other
<2022-10-27T18:10:16.000Z> DeDi: lmfao! I was not there for that, hahaha xD
<2022-10-27T18:10:21.000Z> Haru: It was like a fever dream
<2022-10-27T18:10:45.000Z> DeDi: was that when Josh briefly let them all back and then banned them all in like a few hours?
<2022-10-27T18:10:50.000Z> Haru: No this was way later
<2022-10-27T18:10:58.000Z> Haru: This was like 2-3 months ago
<2022-10-27T18:11:00.000Z> DeDi: lol I missed all of this xD
<2022-10-27T18:11:14.000Z> Haru: It was so batshit crazy I couldn't even process it at the time
<2022-10-27T18:11:24.000Z> Haru: Like legitimately 10 of them appeared and started fighting each other out of NOWHERE
<2022-10-27T18:11:36.000Z> Haru: Calling each other by their real names etc
<2022-10-27T18:11:44.000Z> DeDi: Empresa as the boyfriend, that's even funnier with the added context of Ellaine Miller drama xD
<2022-10-27T18:12:06.000Z> Haru: Yeah I couldn't believe that my mild joke provoked what was honestly the biggest dumpster fire I ever saw in that chat
<2022-10-27T18:12:27.000Z> DeDi: They must have spies posted in our chat ready to raise the alarm at discord HQ 24/7 lol
<2022-10-27T18:12:42.000Z> Haru: Yeah I think they have a VPS screen recording the chat or something
<2022-10-27T18:12:50.000Z> DeDi: awww I wish I caught that, I love chat drama 
<2022-10-27T18:13:09.000Z> Haru: It's a shame it wasn't archived because it was insane, but there was so much halal shit it would get swept anyway
<2022-10-27T18:13:21.000Z> DeDi: yeah I can imagine lmfao
<2022-11-05T22:02:58.000Z> Haru: Haven't been able to verify it yet but Vetti claimed that Cow Poly had at least 1 direct Skype call with the pig coordinating their gay op against me
<2022-11-05T22:03:33.000Z> Haru: Cow Poly told the Gunt that he'd take me out and not to worry about it
<2022-11-06T05:22:36.000Z> DeDi: Oh shit lol, so they were working for Ralph? Wtf lol! 
<2022-11-06T06:23:49.000Z> Haru: Yeah Vetti said the following:
<2022-11-06T06:23:51.000Z> Haru: "i remember when we were all having a go at you haru, cuckson and cow called ralph once and they discussed the goings on in some capacity"
<2022-11-06T06:23:57.000Z> Haru: "he thought they were a good means to fuck with you indirectly"
<2022-11-06T06:24:08.000Z> Haru: Very very cringe
<2022-11-06T06:24:47.000Z> Haru: He was so mad he squeezed into the crease and still lost and had his group fall apart and then got doxed
<2022-11-06T06:25:06.000Z> Haru: Each of these is also an L for the pig due to his involvement
<2022-11-06T06:25:48.000Z> DeDi: It is very bizarre to see regulars from the Ralph thread going to him for help to fuck with another user. Even more so that Ralph would trust such people. Just strange.
<2022-11-06T06:26:59.000Z> Haru: Gunt being desperate enough to talk with them is the funniest part
<2022-11-06T06:27:25.000Z> DeDi: Yeah he clearly was obsessed with you covering his constant Ls lol
<2022-11-06T06:28:00.000Z> DeDi: I guess it fits with his impulsive attitude
<2022-11-06T06:28:12.000Z> DeDi: Like how he wanted to work with Zoom AGAIN after he doxxed Gator
<2022-11-06T06:28:40.000Z> DeDi: Whoever he is most mad at right now is all that matters
<2022-11-06T06:29:00.000Z> DeDi: Like a pig with blinders on lol
<2022-11-06T06:29:56.000Z> Haru: It's really pathetic and he also ties himself in knots coping about how his guntsuckers are okay no matter what, like how he was talking about Adolwulf still being based despite being a degenerate furry into weird sexual shit
<2022-11-06T06:30:49.000Z> DeDi: He has no actual standards for anything, it's just "this makes me mad so this is what I care about"
<2022-11-06T06:31:38.000Z> Haru: He's getting worse and more mentally ill too, I can't imagine him hanging in until the end of next year
<2022-11-06T06:32:25.000Z> DeDi: Yeah I think he legit decided to go to Cuba because of NRN. Either to get attention he craves, or because he thinks the alogs will leave him alone.
<2022-11-06T06:32:35.000Z> DeDi: Either way he is letting the internet dictate his life
<2022-11-06T06:38:07.000Z> Haru: And it's only going to further collapse with the checkmark stuff.  It's going to break him completely
<2022-11-06T06:38:33.000Z> DeDi: Lmao the Blue Checkmark shit is so funny
<2022-11-06T06:38:42.000Z> DeDi: it's the one thing in his life he is proud of
<2022-11-06T06:38:49.000Z> DeDi: and it's value is about to plummet xD
<2022-11-06T06:39:15.000Z> DeDi: Between that, Cuba and Ralphamania, content is looking good
<2022-11-06T06:40:44.000Z> Haru: I hope the rumor that Vickers applied for a checkmark is real.  That'd be a knife through his piggy little heart
<2022-11-06T06:41:22.000Z> DeDi: Everyone he hates should get one
<2022-11-06T06:41:53.000Z> DeDi: I don't think you use Twitter, right? But I would laugh if you got one and started posting all his lies lmao.
<2022-11-06T06:44:44.000Z> Haru: Nope, not at all, maybe I'll get around to it now though but not if it requires any sort of actual verification
<2022-11-06T06:46:06.000Z> DeDi: Ah yeah there's a point. You'd probably not be able to get verified as an anon. Else what would be the point of being verified, if not to validate your real ID. Twitter would probably not view pissing off a rage pig as a reason. xD
<2022-11-06T06:46:32.000Z> DeDi: But Vickers and other public people with money to burn should do it lol.
<2022-11-06T06:47:08.000Z> DeDi: I guess the next best thing is a verified user such as Vickers posting screencaps of your posts, hehe
<2022-11-06T06:51:27.000Z> Haru: I really hope that if Vickers does get his application accepted that it happens while the Gunt is live so we can get an unfiltered reaction.  He'll definitely melt down about it when he first notices so hopefully he doesn't have a chance to prepare any cope
<2022-11-06T06:53:56.000Z> DeDi: Ideally yes, I wanna see him sperg out over it. I wonder if he would actively choose not to pay for the checkmark and cope that it has now become gay because anyone can have it if they pay for it, thus saving him face and money, in his eyes anyway?
<2022-11-06T07:00:54.000Z> Haru: It's hard to predict what someone that mentally ill will do, but he's going to hate it no matter what it is and that's what's important
<2022-11-06T07:01:16.000Z> DeDi: Lol for sure :gunt:
<2022-11-06T16:18:17.000Z> Haru: This is starting to feel like a setup LOL
<2022-11-06T16:19:28.000Z> Haru: I was just talking with FFFP who apologized and said I could ask him any question and he'd answer it fully in recompense for his past gay opping, and now Vetti is telling me to confirm his story by asking FFFP
<2022-11-06T16:19:59.000Z> Haru: I find this VERY SUS
<2022-11-06T16:20:19.000Z> Haru: Fuck it, when I get up tomorrow I'm talking to Gator
<2022-11-07T06:21:29.000Z> DeDi: I struggle to follow this stuff. I think I know something, then someone involved like Vetti tells me it's not true. These people make no sense and it's turning us schizo lol. 
<2022-11-07T06:23:04.000Z> DeDi: But yeah ask Gator he at least doesn't get off on misleading and trolling people like this.
<2022-11-07T22:02:47.000Z> Haru: Vetti has been on the ball lately and has given me a TON of detail that matches up with things I already mostly knew
<2022-11-07T22:03:00.000Z> Haru: But I have a niggling doubt he's setting me up for a bigger thing
<2022-11-09T08:50:25.000Z> DeDi: I believed Vetti about the Seven stuff because I could verify a lot of the details myself. However knowing his character I would not trust him more generally. His claim is interesting but it's hard to be suspicious of him and all the other people who use Discord.
<2022-11-09T08:50:47.000Z> DeDi: hard not to be*
<2022-11-11T21:42:51.000Z> Haru: 789 is raving like a lunatic about me on the splinter for no reason so I think she's got some problems and probably has for a while and this just tipped her over the edge
<2022-11-14T13:21:49.000Z> DeDi: Yeah she is now accusing you of lying and also saying people only dislike her now because Null dislikes her and we just do whatever he says. I don't think she even believes that, she is just saying what she thinks her new friends want to hear. Total chameleon. 
<2022-11-19T02:50:34.000Z> Haru: Being banned broke her mind and she's unhinged now
<2022-11-19T02:50:59.000Z> Haru: She's claiming I had her ask Hotwheels a "very specific question" and that this was off-site communication
<2022-11-19T02:51:16.000Z> Haru: The "very specific question" I wanted someone to ask Hotwheels was "check your god damn Kiwi Farms DMs"
<2022-11-19T02:51:31.000Z> Haru: So that framing is extremely bad faith to the point of being a lie
<2022-11-19T02:51:46.000Z> Haru: And I was just posting in chat asking if anyone knew Hotwheels to please ask him that, I didn't tell her to do jack shit
<2022-11-19T02:52:06.000Z> Haru: She wanted to suck up to me so she went off on her own initiative to do it, plain and simple
<2022-11-19T02:53:36.000Z> Haru: Like, I get it.  She's mad she got banned and she knows that I warned her for months about the Discord slippery slope, and the ONLY way she's blameless is if I had it out for her from the start and used reverse psychology to set her up so that's how she's choosing to look at it
<2022-11-22T18:24:23.000Z> DeDi: She should know she only has herself to blame. We all warned her for months not to get involved with the Discord crew. She even whined to us that some of them were harassing her. Of course Vetti's leaks showed that instead of disengaging like we told her to, she wanted to get revenge and dox people. You're right she has become unhinged and is now making up her own version of events.
<2022-11-22T18:25:50.000Z> DeDi: I'm not sure if she is deluding herself or lying to her new friends, either way she's beyond saving. Sad to see someone with a family and real career/education prospects go down this rabbithole.
<2022-11-22T18:27:12.000Z> DeDi: And blaming you for it is just shitty, you only ever warned her about the dangers. Never saw you or any other chat regulars trying to gayop her.
<2022-11-23T23:26:18.000Z> DeDi: FYI Seven is back on the Farms under the username "Disavow"
<2022-11-24T16:51:40.000Z> Haru: Are you sure that's her?
<2022-11-24T17:46:22.000Z> DeDi: We're pretty sure yeah lol
<2022-11-24T19:21:55.000Z> Haru: That only makes things weirder
<2022-11-24T19:22:10.000Z> Haru: I'll keep an eye out for her weird French autocorrect
<2022-11-25T04:29:42.000Z> DeDi: It was inevitable really, the Discordfags always make socks and try to return. Seven of all people could not stay away long lol. Yeah keep an eye out she slips up so much, she's terrible at going incognito. xD
<2022-11-25T10:03:01.000Z> Haru: Weirdly two-faced to seethe hard about me on the splinter then act like everything is totally normal when talking to me in chat
<2022-11-25T10:04:57.000Z> Haru: I don't even dislike her really since I know those posts were just cope and virtue signalling but it's bizarre
<2022-11-25T11:16:22.000Z> DeDi: She'll act all buddy buddy and feign ignorance to maintain her cover (even though her cover was already blown and she sperged out over it lol), I dunno what her angle is - some gay op, trying to monitor us, or just desperate to be in our chat again. Hard to know what motivates these discord speds.
<2022-12-03T20:10:09.000Z> DeDi: Lol there is a fake Haru Okumura account on Onion Farms now larping as you, just so you know. 
<2022-12-03T23:54:42.000Z> Haru: Oh boy
<2022-12-03T23:56:31.000Z> Haru: Even my most seething hater on there calls it out as obviously fake, that's pretty funny
<2022-12-04T00:10:25.000Z> DeDi: Hehehe, they do go a little too hard on the impression. I assume it's one of the discord speds, any guesses who? xD
<2022-12-04T00:14:59.000Z> DeDi: Also Seven is really bad at socking lol, just look at her as Disavow right now :P
<2022-12-04T00:17:51.000Z> Haru: I think it's Gin and looking at that account more carefully I think it's just satire instead of an actual attempt at impersonation, so eh
<2022-12-04T00:18:10.000Z> Haru: In that case it doesn't really bother me too much
<2022-12-04T00:18:15.000Z> Haru: We'll see what else they post
<2022-12-04T00:19:18.000Z> Haru: Also if Disavow is really 789 then it just proves my original hypothesis that she was only acting insane towards me to virtue signal to her fellow inmates in Kengle's shithole so it's whatever
<2022-12-04T00:22:13.000Z> DeDi: Yeah I think it's a parody thing, still kinda weird that people do this. But yeah thought you ought to know just in case other people see it and believe it. 
<2022-12-04T00:24:31.000Z> DeDi: It's definitely her. I saw someone on Onion basically confirm it's a sock, and they talk just like Seven, and are powerleveling in the same way she used to. Like just now she mentioned "Mr Disavow" - just as she always used to mention "Mr Seven". Also she is doing some feminist larp, and she once said in chat if she ever socked she'd do a radfem character.
<2022-12-04T00:25:17.000Z> DeDi: And she got REALLY pissy when me and DH called her out as socking lol.
<2022-12-04T00:45:47.000Z> Haru: Yeah it's pretty weird how obsessed they still are with me after all this time but I'm basically resigned to being a Z-list eceleb in the sektur forever at this point
<2022-12-04T00:46:13.000Z> Haru: It is what it is
<2022-12-04T00:49:53.000Z> DeDi: Well on the plus side you also got people who respect your work as an ayylawg, and some of the memes are funny. And with notoriety you are able to trigger Ralph in a way most of us cannot. :gunt:
<2022-12-04T00:56:37.000Z> Haru: Yeah, it does have a few upsides as well, I can't deny that...and Ethan's only going to be getting more fragile with time given the increased prominence his mensch is starting to accumulate
<2022-12-04T00:56:57.000Z> Haru: Narcs can't stand this sort of negative attention so Nick is going to lose his mind and the chance of conflict with the piggy will only go up and up
<2022-12-04T00:58:02.000Z> DeDi: Perhaps this is all leading to a Ralph vs Nick thread, or even... a Ralph vs Ye thread, lmao
<2022-12-04T02:19:49.000Z> Haru: I'm hoping for Ralph v Donald Trump myself
<2022-12-04T02:20:03.000Z> Haru: Or Ralph v Mantsu's dad
<2022-12-04T02:20:19.000Z> Haru: Mantsu's dad, whose name I can't use here, is still a firm Trump supporter
<2022-12-04T02:21:03.000Z> Haru: Ethan and him might come into conflict over this during Christmas since his hugbox is going to keep amplifying his Kanye obsession until then
<2022-12-22T10:04:36.000Z> DeDi: I guess you got your Christmas wish Haru, lmao! :gunt:
<2022-12-22T11:43:44.000Z> Haru: True :gunt:
<2023-05-09T14:21:34.000Z> DeDi: Hey Haru, not sure if you're still using this site, but if so what's going on with the KF downtime? It's been like 4 days now... :/