<2023-05-14T19:35:25.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: Hi GSock, Jill here. You were most patient with me yesterday, I am very grateful. I have spent quite a bit of time looking for the song in my head, to no avail. If you might continue chatting with me on this topic, I would be so happy. I have 3 songs with the proper similar guitar intro copied. Would you be willing to dive into this brain trauma with me? Or?
<2023-05-14T19:39:39.000Z> Grumblesock: Oh no, that sucks. I'd hoped a little wine and sleep might have furnished you with the answer. Of course I'm happy to help. I kind of got distracted as another friend had also tasked me to figuring out a fairy tale/nursery rhyme that an old smoking pipe had been crafted around. Count me back in. I'll go back to the thread from yesterday and refresh my memory. Hopefully we'll have better brains today 😊.
<2023-05-14T19:41:29.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: Thank you kindly GSock, you are a peach. No need to relive that hellthread. I thought if we could keep it in a chat, I wouldn't disturb the natives so much. I'll send the 3 similar song links now, please stand by, please hold...
<2023-05-14T19:41:45.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCkFSe3voRc&list=PLF8rV_MCWF291UADeW437yzQIyBb6TNwD&index=30
<2023-05-14T19:42:11.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J2QdDbelmY&list=PLRkypqpSISVuNhUGTlveY9V1L-ZCZvOU2&index=26
<2023-05-14T19:42:30.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY&list=PLvW_LKH-OpuvrkvqY3Yb84CusaPRzRXQg&index=110
<2023-05-14T19:44:59.000Z> Grumblesock: Ok cool. I hadn't thought it a hell thread at all, everyone was pulling together with some helpful suggestions but when inone of them are the earworm that's got in there then it's just not the one. Ok let me get a fresh tea and I'll get needle back on track, so to speak =).
<2023-05-14T19:45:46.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: Thank you GSock! ❤   This link here is just something I found in my quest...it is rather cool, unrelated, but I thought you would appreciate it:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le9v4F7NXEI
<2023-05-14T19:51:18.000Z> Grumblesock: Oh cool. I'll watch it through as a little inspiration can go a long way. I'm just going to make note of the clues you've given us so far. I'd rather not go to one of those lyric/tunefinder sites but if that's what it takes the so be it. I'm about the least musically aware person in my own social circle, I can't play an instrument and my singing is bad enough to get a mention in the Geneva convention, I bet. I'm friend with many musically aware and skilled people and can always take the case to them if we keep coming up with nothing.x
<2023-05-14T19:53:08.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: oh my goodness, thank you. This has now turned into a project my brain won't release me from...it hurts....and it is quite frustrating. I hope you understand. Thank you so much.
<2023-05-14T19:55:20.000Z> Grumblesock: I get it 100%. When I get a niggling quest such as this of my own it can drive me to literal distraction. The relief that comes with solving it is incredible. I'm more than happy to help and just hope the answer is a tune I'm familiar with, it'll help finding it immensely. 
<2023-05-14T19:55:58.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: 😭❤
<2023-05-14T20:06:11.000Z> Grumblesock: OK so I've hand written my chicken scratch notes (sometimes helps me think) and this is what i have:
<2023-05-14T20:06:51.000Z> Grumblesock: From 2000'3. Male singer, sings in English, Brit, American or possibly Mexican.
<2023-05-14T20:07:26.000Z> Grumblesock: Slinky, Cool, A lil funk, some syncopation with clear clean beats in the beginning
<2023-05-14T20:07:58.000Z> Grumblesock: First notes on bass guitar - da da dum, da da da da da dum
<2023-05-14T20:08:36.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: Yes, perfect on your chix scratch.  The guitar is more White Stripes & Gorillaz sounding than Goyte...I keep relistening to their intros...but the song I'm thinking of is a beat of 1, 2, 3 hold, micro pause, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (or 6) hold
<2023-05-14T20:08:45.000Z> Grumblesock: Lyrics along the lines of 'You used to be that way' - 'You didn't have to be this way' Like a guy calling a girl out on her BS.
<2023-05-14T20:09:26.000Z> Grumblesock: And the best  fits so far were the three you posted here in chat. I paused the video of the dude doing intors was there anything he did that sounded close, do you think?
<2023-05-14T20:09:27.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: ...yes....but, more like shit went sideways being the theme
<2023-05-14T20:09:55.000Z> Grumblesock: Ok cool. More chicken scratching 😉
<2023-05-14T20:11:19.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: The intro fella vid (14 min) was just a relief for my brain...great songs that I need to make a playlist of...thought it would have the one, but it didn't...
<2023-05-14T20:13:10.000Z> Grumblesock: OK, in that case I'lll listen to that later (bookmarked and I'll focus on those that are close to what were trying to sound out 👍🏻 stay in the zone sort of thing. We'll find this, I know it.x
<2023-05-14T20:13:39.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: 😢
<2023-05-14T20:17:02.000Z> Grumblesock: Have you listened to more of the gorrilaz and white stripes? I'm just wondering if it might be another track of either band's. Often a group will have a certain attraction to particular bass lines, beats and such.
<2023-05-14T20:18:04.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: ...I have listened to their collections in full, alas, no.... another clue just popped into my head...when this now known as The Stupid Song came out, I was like...wth...this sounds soooo much like that one White Stripes song...
<2023-05-14T20:21:42.000Z> Grumblesock: Ok, thanks, that makes a certain kind of sense, artists influence each other far more than they care to admit. So from around that time, this narrows it down considerably. Cool, I'm going to start digging and will come back with any offering that might be a match. I've got 3 friends irl in mind that i can hit up too if we're getting too crazed on this. 
<2023-05-14T20:23:00.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: Thank you, as you & your comrades can, no rush...I'm imposing & am very grateful.
<2023-05-14T20:25:41.000Z> Grumblesock: Not at all, I'm just warped in the head enough to consider this good fun, even if my brain rebels a little. I know the pain of being haunted by half remembered music so quite happy to help. I kind of want to see what it'll be in the end too. 😉
<2023-05-14T20:41:41.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: 😁
<2023-05-14T20:45:55.000Z> Grumblesock: I'm just working my way through the Arctic Monkeys, the strokes and Kaiser chiefs but nothing is quite jumping out at me yet. I swear this is an excellent exercise for going back over some bloody brilliant music. 😎
<2023-05-14T20:47:31.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: Yes, indeed...I made a whole list of music I need to get in a playlist. Arctic Monkeys, The STrikes....idk Kaiser Chiefs will listen now...are on the list!
<2023-05-14T20:51:01.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: KChiefs...nope.
<2023-05-14T20:51:04.000Z> Grumblesock: Maybe stick franz ferdinand on that list too, they were doing some splendid work back then too.😁
<2023-05-14T20:51:30.000Z> Grumblesock: Cool crossed them off. Sorry if I'm going to be bothersome but we will whittle it down. 
<2023-05-14T20:52:18.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: whittle we must...bother as you can, please :) checking out Franz now...
<2023-05-14T20:53:16.000Z> Grumblesock: Awesome, every thing you tick of the list is an avenue we can eliminate. 
<2023-05-14T20:56:16.000Z> Grumblesock: Maybe have a listen to The Fratellis too they're a bit later than white stripes but channelled some of that same vibe for sure too. 
<2023-05-14T20:57:33.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: ...reminds me that I love FranzF...but, nope. Now checking out The Fratellis...
<2023-05-14T20:59:14.000Z> Grumblesock: Splendid. I keep hearing tunes that I love but am glad most of the clues you have can be used to measure in the first opening part of the song. If it was like a chorus bit you could remember this would take a good deal longer!
<2023-05-14T21:02:10.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: ...not The Fratellis...I feel like I am on a never-ending show of Name That Tune from back in the day...all I need is the 1st few seconds of a song to be like Nope.
<2023-05-14T21:04:22.000Z> Grumblesock: 😂 same here. I'm yeeting tunes left and right here after 30 seconds of listening. I've got about 500 gbs of music to choose from. I'm tempted to enlist a guitarist friend of mine, every time I look up a tune on Youtube his covers he has up there also come up in the playlists. It could be a sign.....
<2023-05-14T21:05:21.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: Ahhhh snap...I guitarist could figure this out in seconds flat....daaaaang....excellent idea!
<2023-05-14T21:06:22.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: *a guitarist...not 'I'
<2023-05-14T21:06:46.000Z> Grumblesock: OK, I'll  message him my notes and see what he makes of it. I'll let you know what his thoughts are.
<2023-05-14T21:07:32.000Z> Grumblesock: My typing is awful, at least with normal messages I can edit them to make myself look less of a tard 😭
<2023-05-14T21:08:06.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: I'm happy to jump on a call so I may translate my da da dums....but he might could already get the pix. ...[....& my typing is not stellar...]...
<2023-05-14T21:19:51.000Z> Grumblesock: Ok Just send him a long winded message, so the Druid King is now in play. He's up in SCotalnad so that would make for a pricey phone call but I'll get back to you with any suggestions he might come up with before hitting up any other musical mates of mine. 
<2023-05-14T21:20:20.000Z> Grumblesock: FFS 'Scotland' see what I mean about my typing. 🙄
<2023-05-14T21:21:04.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: Thank you kindly....funny....I read Scotland in your 1st post! ;)
<2023-05-14T21:21:38.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: I'm in Indiana, US...so, yes....could be pricy...
<2023-05-14T21:21:46.000Z> Grumblesock: You can translate grumblish already. Wonderful 😊.
<2023-05-14T21:22:24.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: Upswing!
<2023-05-14T21:23:33.000Z> Grumblesock: If it got to that stage perhaps you could make a voice recording of the pertinent da's and dum's and I can send it to him that way if need be. 🥂
<2023-05-14T21:24:44.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: righto...hopefully not, as my voice is wretched...I only played the bells in church as the choir director was like....ahhhh, no no no, Jill...bells for you.
<2023-05-14T21:28:08.000Z> Grumblesock: I used to sing until puberty hit and then it all just went wrong. Never did have the confidence to train my voice past that point. Probably why I tend to gravitate towards people with actual musical skill. I do love music still though and love sharing that pleasure with others. Some folks do not like music much at all, I think these are soulless people. 🤷🏻‍♂️
<2023-05-14T21:29:01.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: oh yes, indeed....I have music playing most of my day when possible...
<2023-05-14T21:29:47.000Z> Grumblesock: Same. I just don't get how people can do without it. 
<2023-05-14T21:30:33.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: ... soulless creatures...NPCs fr
<2023-05-14T21:31:09.000Z> Grumblesock: That meme with the grey people is so on point...
<2023-05-14T21:34:52.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: aahahahaha, yessss.....this is my brain right now.... a bunch of squirrels running the show... https://nicecrew.digital/media/7809b9bf2159fe380d5eed6d4ecc3291331241e7cd449282911b71781457afb6.JPG
<2023-05-14T21:38:56.000Z> Grumblesock: I hear that, very time I try and pin a suitable track down my mind does this thing👇🏻  i'm going to take a short break and eat something. It's getting on for 11 at night here and my brain needs fuel.  https://i.poastcdn.org/066a05ef9daf935e34210717aa254b06e0f099eb1df64e5f60c181689508c813.mp4
<2023-05-14T21:40:03.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: THAT is hilarious! Off you go, get some vittles....chat soon :)
<2023-05-15T10:31:25.000Z> Grumblesock: Good morning hon. Hope you had a restful night's slepp. So here are some tunes that might fit the bill from my friend I was talking about. youtube.com/watch?v=DDjpOrlfh0Y
<2023-05-15T10:31:38.000Z> Grumblesock: youtu.be/4z5LkgjBSRE
<2023-05-15T10:32:13.000Z> Grumblesock: youtu.be/XPpTgCho5ZA
<2023-05-15T10:32:29.000Z> Grumblesock: youtube.com/watch?v=J5a_oSNn0aA
<2023-05-15T14:08:31.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: ...GM GSock! Thank you to you and your Scot pal, I appreciate it. Unfortunately, none of those 4 is it.  I think I am going to let this one rest & digest a bit...and think about it sometime in the future. It is reaching silliness thinking levels and welp, I need my brain for other things. I've gotten to the point where I now wonder if my head made the whole tune up. I'm actually ghosting myself?!? ahahahahaaa...probably not, but, you understand, I am sure...thank you again, & you will be the 1st to know once I figure it out.  😁
<2023-05-15T14:11:46.000Z> Grumblesock: Having listened to them (I only knew of 1 of them) I didn't think they fit the bill. I think you're right. Take your mind off of it and perhaps without all the additional pressure something may well surface and you'll get that 'eureka' realisation. If it hits be sure to let me know. It's been quite enjoyable going over all these songs, even just listening to the first parts of them I've added a whole bunch into my current playlist so It's been entirely worth it. 😀
<2023-05-15T14:13:46.000Z> jill@nicecrew.digital: ...that is a pleasant surprise to come out of this lil project, yes.