<2021-12-19T20:24:33.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: What's your opinion of /pol/'s neo-pagans?
<2021-12-19T20:54:44.000Z> Godcast: Most of them are former atheists looking for meaning. They look at popular Christianity and see another tentacle of globohomo (and aren't wrong), and have found a very nebulous spirituality that's comfortable for them but also not demanding. There's also a solid contingent that just hate Christians and will pick up any stick to hit them with, but they're a bunch of dweebs.
<2021-12-19T20:56:54.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: the only pagan i ever met irl was jewish
<2021-12-19T20:57:18.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: I think the most pressing thing facing young men is the issue of woman hatred, even more than pornography, but I think it's a comorbidity
<2021-12-19T20:57:47.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: like you're exposed to porn by 11 and then by 21 for most guys (esp those without male figures) they believe the average woman is a pornstar, which is a double edged sword
<2021-12-19T20:57:59.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: because not only do you think the average women is a retarded coalburning whore
<2021-12-19T20:58:08.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: but your standards of beauty get warped by this standard
<2021-12-19T20:58:43.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: so you simultaneously feel too good for women who don't look like digitally altered / surgically enhanced pornstars, and you also think that women in general are just worthless
<2021-12-19T21:00:10.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: more often than anything I see men blame women for political decline but really women just follow men. i think those woke political girls on twitter would probably be turned on by guys who disagree with them vehemently rather than wanting a guy who's just like "heck yeah i love my precious niggos and i think the government should tax 90% of my wagie money to support lgbtp+ latinx muslim refugees"
<2021-12-19T21:00:32.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: I feel helpless trying to explain this perspective to people though, they really just hate women. I get more hate on my podcast defending white women then I do defending china.
<2021-12-19T21:05:29.000Z> Godcast: That's definitely true. There's a lot of resentment, and the biggest factor is, as you mention, failing to realize that we're here because men got lazy and thought "whats the worst that could happen?" Well, we're finding out. 
<2021-12-19T21:06:08.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: I had a super super bad relationship with women as a teenager and three things helped me out
<2021-12-19T21:06:16.000Z> Godcast: Much like the mask, lockdown issue, i think a lot of people are permanently fucked on the woman question
<2021-12-19T21:06:59.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: 1. this image, which I genuinely think is one of the most persuasive posts ever made on the Internet https://kiwifarms.cc/media/385f50abb4e776b1493bbad561d935984ce5f86b183c694bce7c5b3eca286b34.jpg
<2021-12-19T21:07:25.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: 2. I had a really really really really toxic online relationship with a girl who was extremely broken and she proved to me that women solved at most as many problems in life as they created
<2021-12-19T21:07:45.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: 3. I met a guy friend playing DOTA when I was 17 who basically taught me what women are like and fixed my entire perspective on it
<2021-12-19T21:07:56.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: he's about 10 years older than me and Chinese so his shit came out of left field
<2021-12-19T21:08:28.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: but basically I thought that girl was like the smartest person ever and I thought I was lucky just to talk to her
<2021-12-19T21:08:41.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: and then my buddy's advice was basically "just ignore her for a week and see what happens"
<2021-12-19T21:09:09.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: and after that she was basically a real girlfriend for the first time in 2 years and didn't have shit on me and i was just like wtf
<2021-12-19T21:09:24.000Z> Godcast: It's an important perspective. Say what you will about PUAs and "game," their biggest contribution is pounding the idea that men and women are different into people's heads
<2021-12-19T21:10:28.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: I was totally in that pleaser mindset and changing that fixed a lot. I didn't lose my virginity until I was 22 but I only ever had any luck with women when I completely ignored them and focused on myself and they just fucking message you because they find that unavailability attractive
<2021-12-19T21:10:46.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: and then I had some healthy long term relationships that made me realize women aren't so bad
<2021-12-19T21:11:02.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: and I want to share this perspective with the many men online who just want women to die or to be replaced with chink slave wifes
<2021-12-19T21:11:19.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: I refuse to believe men who buy women from Ukraine or Vietnam are going to be as happy as a guy who meets a woman normally
<2021-12-19T21:12:14.000Z> Godcast: Absolutely not. And thats ignoring the organized crime aspects of foreign women who marry westerners
<2021-12-19T21:13:42.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: I do think the guys who adopt incel as their own label are a waste of time to help. They deliberately choose to be miserable and have an excuse for everything.
<2021-12-19T21:13:50.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: But guys who are just blackpilled on white women can be helped.
<2021-12-19T21:14:05.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: It all starts once they realize they are masters of their own destiny and women just want security and stability, no matter its form.
<2021-12-19T21:14:58.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: Dunno why I sent this to you tbh, it's my birthday but I spent some time today arguing with people and I was actually shocked how fucked these guys perspectives were and I felt obligated to try and make it known that their views are bad and guys reading what they're saying should not trust them.
<2021-12-19T21:15:13.000Z> josh@kiwifarms.cc: So I just want other people to know that that shit is poison and it should be fought back
<2021-12-19T21:17:04.000Z> Godcast: Trying to "own" a negative label is 100% a coping strategy. You're right that a lot of Guy's situations are salvagable. Lifting has helped a lot of guys i know. Happy birthday, btw