<2022-04-19T07:28:42.000Z> Ghislaine: I saw that thing where people were hounding that guy to say Christ rose from the dead or whatever. Do you know what was going on there? It just looked odd and I thought huh I don’t want to be involved with this
<2022-04-19T07:30:48.000Z> hazlin: I believe the summary is, BrothorCraig is a young person, and they literally badgered him to repeat their specific words in a post. It bothered me, because he obviously wanted their approved, but could tell it was wrong to just be dominated.
<2022-04-19T07:31:05.000Z> hazlin: after he gave in they just kept harassing him
<2022-04-19T07:31:17.000Z> hazlin: and then had a circle jerk in the main thread
<2022-04-19T07:31:27.000Z> Ghislaine: Sheesh
<2022-04-19T07:31:55.000Z> Ghislaine: That sucks 
<2022-04-19T07:32:16.000Z> Ghislaine: Didn’t seem great they were doing that
<2022-04-19T07:32:42.000Z> hazlin: well, it made me mad lol, that is literally what it looks like when someone loses faith in a community. 
<2022-04-19T07:33:56.000Z> Ghislaine: There’s just so much social weirdness and autism here people just are doing stuff that is ridiculous and feeling fantastic about it 
<2022-04-19T07:34:18.000Z> Ghislaine: Why yes I am a real Christian that’s why I harass people for hours online 
<2022-04-19T07:34:26.000Z> hazlin: lol!
<2022-04-19T07:34:33.000Z> Ghislaine: Just like the saints wojld
<2022-04-19T07:34:43.000Z> Ghislaine: Here’s a picture of a saint 
<2022-04-19T07:34:54.000Z> Ghislaine: Gimme a break
<2022-04-19T07:35:11.000Z> Ghislaine: If you’re gonna harass people ok but don’t do it in gods name
<2022-04-19T07:36:18.000Z> hazlin: Well, I try to cut people a lot of slack, this community is essentially everyone has rejected societal normals, and we are trying to figure out what the normals should be
<2022-04-19T07:36:51.000Z> hazlin: this particular thing, hit rather close to home for me, so, I reacted
<2022-04-19T07:37:08.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah makes sense
<2022-04-19T07:37:36.000Z> hazlin: and hey, thanks for reaching out and talking to me man, I appreciate it
<2022-04-19T07:37:52.000Z> hazlin: I was actually about to go to sleep before I read the first message xD
<2022-04-19T07:37:53.000Z> Ghislaine: Yw!
<2022-04-19T07:38:10.000Z> hazlin: means a lot
<2022-04-19T07:39:07.000Z> Ghislaine: Have a nice night
<2022-04-19T07:39:45.000Z> hazlin: you too
<2022-06-17T04:12:31.000Z> hazlin: I've been blocking denying or blocking about half my follow requests for that reason
<2022-06-17T04:13:08.000Z> hazlin: It started after I had someone only popup to derail critical conversations with middle ground people
<2022-06-17T04:15:21.000Z> hazlin: I look for, do they express thoughts on a wide range of topic? Do they just polarize and propagate emotional conditioning? And, finally, will they engage in dialog if I DM them.
<2022-06-17T04:16:15.000Z> hazlin: I'm sort of wary of pointing out the issues in public, because it could just help them adapt xD and make them harder to spot.
<2022-06-17T04:17:00.000Z> Ghislaine: I think helping people understand the robot filled environment is more important 
<2022-06-17T04:17:11.000Z> Ghislaine: but I get where you’re coming from 
<2022-06-17T04:17:35.000Z> Ghislaine: I just look for “are you there”
<2022-06-17T04:17:45.000Z> Ghislaine: like just going with my gut
<2022-06-17T04:17:58.000Z> hazlin: good point
<2022-06-17T04:18:58.000Z> Ghislaine: Also humor is another one
<2022-06-17T04:19:02.000Z> hazlin: I'd been conditioned by seeing people take emma seriously. However, they would say things like "your not addressing my argument" or "it is like you are in a different reality" or "Emma can't be a bot, because there is no training data for this shit"
<2022-06-17T04:19:10.000Z> Ghislaine: people know when they’re the butt of a joke
<2022-06-17T04:19:20.000Z> Ghislaine: Even if they don’t quite get it
<2022-06-17T04:19:23.000Z> Ghislaine: and it makes them mad
<2022-06-17T04:19:37.000Z> hazlin: ^
<2022-06-17T04:19:41.000Z> Ghislaine: If that’s not there my robo alarm goes off
<2022-06-17T04:19:53.000Z> hazlin: you know
<2022-06-17T04:19:55.000Z> Ghislaine: I’ve been making fun of Emma to her face and tagging her
<2022-06-17T04:20:03.000Z> hazlin: remember when we had the april fools thing on poast
<2022-06-17T04:20:10.000Z> Ghislaine: And she never gets mad
<2022-06-17T04:20:17.000Z> Ghislaine: Or even tries to rebut me
<2022-06-17T04:20:22.000Z> hazlin: and there was ZERO fluctuation on spinster?
<2022-06-17T04:21:14.000Z> hazlin: I just thought that "oh they have no sense of humor" but, if this is a bot dominated instance to sow unrest in women, then that would also fit
<2022-06-17T04:21:52.000Z> hazlin: it means that they aren't a bunch of women trapped in their own minds, but bots talking past each other, replying on a script
<2022-06-17T04:23:39.000Z> Ghislaine: 16k women always sounded very weird
<2022-06-17T04:23:46.000Z> Ghislaine: like thats too many 
<2022-06-17T04:23:59.000Z> hazlin: ^^^!!!^^^
<2022-06-17T04:23:59.000Z> Ghislaine: Women don’t adopt extremist political views
<2022-06-17T04:24:19.000Z> Ghislaine: and if they do they don’t find each other in the seedy areas of the internet 
<2022-06-17T04:25:21.000Z> hazlin: agreed
<2022-06-17T04:40:21.000Z> hazlin: poa.st/@billiam@shitposter.club/posts/AKS5yFNUTa3Aiz2jKq
<2022-06-17T04:40:51.000Z> hazlin: that one the context analysis failed 
<2022-06-17T04:41:00.000Z> hazlin: but if it is a static image poa.st/@EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz/posts/AKS6dHYnGcgxMjtg9I
<2022-06-17T04:41:17.000Z> hazlin: she can respond with some context
<2022-06-17T06:05:41.000Z> hazlin: You liked it
<2022-06-17T06:05:48.000Z> hazlin: but I typo'ed it to death!
<2022-06-17T06:06:49.000Z> Ghislaine: Yep
<2022-06-17T06:07:47.000Z> Ghislaine: Btw I’m also not really worried with the aspect of giving advice to the bot makers because the gpt3 algorithm is basically a black box algo that the let a supercomputer crank away at fitting for a while
<2022-06-17T06:08:19.000Z> Ghislaine: its not like they can just go in and tweak the code to have it be more responsive to humor or something
<2022-06-17T06:08:46.000Z> Ghislaine: Their plan for the next one is to just do the same thing but bigger
<2022-06-17T06:08:48.000Z> Ghislaine: lol
<2022-06-17T06:09:35.000Z> hazlin: I see
<2022-06-17T06:09:38.000Z> hazlin: that makes sense
<2022-06-17T06:10:06.000Z> hazlin: I think emma is using a simple one, I only see dynamic behavior with other accounts on her instance 
<2022-06-17T06:10:11.000Z> Ghislaine: Also they’re getting paid a lot of money by google or whatever and they have focus groups and stuff to test it out and give pointers I’m sure
<2022-06-17T06:10:33.000Z> hazlin: which are probably scripted bot interactions 
<2022-06-17T06:10:49.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah Emma is just notorious because she’s programmed to flame randos
<2022-06-17T06:11:11.000Z> Ghislaine: I haven’t seen anything that convinced me
<2022-06-17T06:11:18.000Z> hazlin: you make many good points xD I guess I was imagining low skill Indians as the attackers
<2022-06-17T06:11:21.000Z> Ghislaine: But idk
<2022-06-17T06:11:49.000Z> Ghislaine: Have you seen how good gpt3 is by the way
<2022-06-17T06:12:18.000Z> Ghislaine: its good enough that any text based interaction no matter should essentially be very very suspect
<2022-06-17T06:12:28.000Z> Ghislaine: *no matter what
<2022-06-17T06:12:47.000Z> hazlin: I'm only seen a bit of the output, can it easily push an agenda in a conversation?
<2022-06-17T06:13:03.000Z> Ghislaine: Oh yeah no dount
<2022-06-17T06:13:09.000Z> Ghislaine: Doubt
<2022-06-17T06:13:41.000Z> Ghislaine: If it can generate good essays it can easily hammer endlessly at a point in a convo
<2022-06-17T06:14:05.000Z> Ghislaine: Especially if you’re going to forgive it for ignoring context which humans do all the time
<2022-06-17T06:14:37.000Z> Ghislaine: Real ppl love to completely ignore it when you make a great point that destroys their position 
<2022-06-17T06:14:59.000Z> hazlin: that is true
<2022-06-17T06:15:05.000Z> hazlin: I see that a lot
<2022-06-17T06:15:21.000Z> hazlin: it happens to crunklord every day lol
<2022-06-17T06:16:17.000Z> Ghislaine: Yep
<2022-06-17T06:18:17.000Z> Ghislaine: He seems like a basically reasonable person imo
<2022-06-17T06:18:40.000Z> Ghislaine: A little edgy or whatever talking about how whites are done as he likes to
<2022-06-17T06:19:12.000Z> hazlin: same, he provides documents, and time lines for his claims, I see lots of hyperbolic responses, even from nugger and others that, out side of that particular interaction, seem thoughtful
<2022-06-17T06:19:14.000Z> Ghislaine: But not altogether wrong about joining the latest iteration of the Charlottesville gang
<2022-06-17T06:20:00.000Z> hazlin: black pilled for sure
<2022-06-17T06:20:10.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah he makes otherwise reasonable Trs aligned ppl lose their shit more than I would expect 
<2022-06-17T06:20:17.000Z> hazlin: but that is a common theme with the non-Christians, or the graceless Christians 
<2022-06-17T06:21:05.000Z> hazlin: would you happen to know what TRS stand for xD ? I've actually got no idea
<2022-06-17T06:21:12.000Z> Ghislaine: The right stuff
<2022-06-17T06:21:29.000Z> hazlin: but I have some awareness of NJP, is The Right Stuff similar?
<2022-06-17T06:21:46.000Z> Ghislaine: They had/(have?) a website by that name that was the hub for all their activities originally 
<2022-06-17T06:21:56.000Z> Ghislaine: had a forum
<2022-06-17T06:22:10.000Z> hazlin: ah so a community
<2022-06-17T06:22:13.000Z> Ghislaine: NJP is the same people
<2022-06-17T06:22:20.000Z> Ghislaine: mike enoch 
<2022-06-17T06:22:29.000Z> Ghislaine: He’s in charge
<2022-06-17T06:22:50.000Z> Ghislaine: borzoi, sven, the Buddhist guy who loves russia
<2022-06-17T06:23:19.000Z> Ghislaine: Then there’s the less aligned ppl like the weebnats cohosts
<2022-06-17T06:24:09.000Z> hazlin: okay, that gives the matter some shape for me
<2022-06-17T06:24:17.000Z> Ghislaine: TRS have some skeletons in the closet
<2022-06-17T06:24:31.000Z> Ghislaine: Behaved badly in the Charlottesville era
<2022-06-17T06:25:00.000Z> Ghislaine: Aligned with total unoptical retards
<2022-06-17T06:25:15.000Z> Ghislaine: Trailer trash nazis
<2022-06-17T06:25:32.000Z> hazlin: ooof
<2022-06-17T06:25:52.000Z> Ghislaine: Plus theres a good chance Enoch was pressured into being a federal informant over cville
<2022-06-17T06:26:15.000Z> Ghislaine: He was dropped as a chargee (forget the word)
<2022-06-17T06:26:22.000Z> hazlin: well it makes more since why borzoi draws so much heat some times. But, I do like his commentary in the threads he joins in on, seems well read, good for history claims fact checking 
<2022-06-17T06:26:45.000Z> Ghislaine: The civil suit that spencer and cantwell were involved in
<2022-06-17T06:27:00.000Z> Ghislaine: Borzoi is great a lot of the time
<2022-06-17T06:27:24.000Z> Ghislaine: But if you make good points about how trs is shady he will flame and block
<2022-06-17T06:27:28.000Z> Ghislaine: so don’t lol
<2022-06-17T06:27:40.000Z> Ghislaine: if you want to keep getting the good stuff
<2022-06-17T06:29:10.000Z> Ghislaine: I’m fine being adjacent to their community and e friends with some of them but never more than tbat
<2022-06-17T06:33:54.000Z> Ghislaine: I also hate that they love negative sum e feuds so much
<2022-06-17T06:34:13.000Z> hazlin: lol
<2022-06-17T06:34:20.000Z> Ghislaine: Theyve been at war with nick Fuentes for like four years 
<2022-06-17T06:34:23.000Z> hazlin: a pure time dump interaction?
<2022-06-17T06:34:44.000Z> Ghislaine: because he correctly said they should stop dressing like nazis and marching around random areas
<2022-06-17T06:35:21.000Z> Ghislaine: They just spew endless bile at any groups they don’t like or have ancient beef with
<2022-06-17T06:35:27.000Z> hazlin: personally, I am only here for the truth, and to spread the truth, and to foster some friendships xD
<2022-06-17T06:35:34.000Z> Ghislaine: Even if they agree on 99%
<2022-06-17T06:35:58.000Z> Ghislaine: They drove Thomas777 off of here twice with just ridiculous flaming
<2022-06-17T06:36:15.000Z> Ghislaine: That beef is probably like a decade old
<2022-06-17T06:37:30.000Z> hazlin: oh, then is this actually a TRS strong hold xD ? like if I ever repost crunklord making a good point, is everyone going to flame me xD ?
<2022-06-17T06:37:46.000Z> Ghislaine: They aren’t that crazy
<2022-06-17T06:37:53.000Z> Ghislaine: but they will think less of you
<2022-06-17T06:38:25.000Z> hazlin: interesting very interesting 
<2022-06-17T06:38:59.000Z> Ghislaine: Even if you directly argue with them about most things they’ll let it slide unless you make a habit of it 
<2022-06-17T06:40:00.000Z> hazlin: todate the only group I've had friction with are the GodCast people, the Catholics and some of the Orthodox xD 
<2022-06-17T06:40:13.000Z> hazlin: to my knowledge none of the political groups have taken issue
<2022-06-17T06:40:53.000Z> Ghislaine: They’re only dangerous to their own people given that they’re for sure fed infiltrated and probably at the highest levels plus they love collecting their peoples dox
<2022-06-17T06:41:16.000Z> hazlin: that sounds shady AF
<2022-06-17T06:41:23.000Z> Ghislaine: What did you disagree with the Godcast guys about?
<2022-06-17T06:41:57.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah to join their movement you have to let them “vet” you ie send lots of identification and info about yourself
<2022-06-17T06:42:10.000Z> Ghislaine: Then you can come to their pool parties 
<2022-06-17T06:42:22.000Z> Ghislaine: Crunklord420 constantly razzes them about this
<2022-06-17T06:43:31.000Z> hazlin: I commented on one of their videos, I didn't realize it was their video at the time xD I was told not to criticizes them because they are well respected in this community xD 
<2022-06-17T06:48:57.000Z> hazlin: I'm not sure if they are Orthodox or Protestant, some of them have Lutheran in the name, but a lot of the stuff they said was Trad (Orthodox or RCC), so I am not really sure what I am dealing with their
<2022-06-17T06:51:29.000Z> hazlin: In any case, thanks for the TRS NJP run down. I may continue to be the only liker when crunklord's better posts, but at least now I know who that will offend xD
<2022-06-17T06:54:26.000Z> Ghislaine: Yep
<2022-06-17T06:54:46.000Z> Ghislaine: Superlutheran is Lutheran (I think)
<2022-06-17T06:55:23.000Z> Ghislaine: Myles Poland (Wario avi who runs the godcast account) is unspecified prot I believe
<2022-06-17T06:56:10.000Z> Ghislaine: I hellthreaded against him and loads of people because I wanted to go to bat for once saved always saved salvation 
<2022-06-17T06:56:30.000Z> Ghislaine: But he wouldn’t have it
<2022-06-17T06:56:47.000Z> Ghislaine: ofc the Catholics and orthos were on his side
<2022-06-17T06:56:53.000Z> hazlin: ofc
<2022-06-17T06:57:02.000Z> Ghislaine: Did you see that?
<2022-06-17T06:57:10.000Z> hazlin: I did not! 
<2022-06-17T06:57:18.000Z> Ghislaine: That’s the one time I went into it with somebody about religion 
<2022-06-17T06:57:22.000Z> Ghislaine: On here
<2022-06-17T06:57:25.000Z> Ghislaine: i try not to
<2022-06-17T06:57:43.000Z> Ghislaine: Do you believe in once saved always saved salvation (ie can you lose salvation)?
<2022-06-17T06:58:07.000Z> Ghislaine: I had the impression you did but I don’t recall lol
<2022-06-17T06:59:04.000Z> Ghislaine: Here’s the link to my discussion with him if you’re interested 
<2022-06-17T06:59:09.000Z> Ghislaine: poa.st/notice/AGkgR0CeHZZaVTYsNs
<2022-06-17T06:59:55.000Z> hazlin: hmm, that is an interesting topic to me, in general my beliefs don't fit into any good molds so I can say "I am an X" xD Specifically for once saved always saved, I am inclined to believe it, however I have been forced to deal with two people that were essentially demon possessed in their later years. 
<2022-06-17T07:00:58.000Z> hazlin: So, I feel like, they are saved, they have a relationship with Jesus, but they just couldn't stop being evil to people... but that is not a popular opinion to the others that knew them xD
<2022-06-17T07:04:19.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah. I mean imo if they were actually saved they could not literally be demon possessed 
<2022-06-17T07:04:27.000Z> Ghislaine: But salvation is not of works
<2022-06-17T07:04:45.000Z> Ghislaine: If you got sealed with the earnest of the spirit by faith
<2022-06-17T07:05:03.000Z> Ghislaine: You HAVE eternal life at this very moment
<2022-06-17T07:05:35.000Z> Ghislaine: Like if you’re 30 you’re in year thirty of your now for sure endless life
<2022-06-17T07:05:47.000Z> Ghislaine: You could kill yourself 
<2022-06-17T07:05:57.000Z> Ghislaine: get killed robbing a bank Or something 
<2022-06-17T07:05:59.000Z> Ghislaine: etc
<2022-06-17T07:07:01.000Z> Ghislaine: And still go to heaven
<2022-06-17T07:07:20.000Z> Ghislaine: That can’t be take from you which is the “good news”
<2022-06-17T07:07:21.000Z> hazlin: So, to give me a better view. What do you think the fates of King Saul, and Judas? 
<2022-06-17T07:07:32.000Z> Ghislaine: Judas was never saved
<2022-06-17T07:07:41.000Z> Ghislaine: a demon went into him at the last supper
<2022-06-17T07:08:25.000Z> Ghislaine: He did miraculous works in the gospels with the rest of Jesus inner circle but never was actually saved
<2022-06-17T07:08:38.000Z> hazlin: does that still apply to people in the Church after Pentecost?
<2022-06-17T07:08:42.000Z> Ghislaine: Basically got used as a plot device
<2022-06-17T07:10:07.000Z> Ghislaine: No Jesus preached eternal life during his ministry so it was for sure at least on offer then
<2022-06-17T07:10:34.000Z> Ghislaine: like nicodemus could get saved in John 316
<2022-06-17T07:10:43.000Z> Ghislaine: Just be like oh ok 
<2022-06-17T07:11:08.000Z> Ghislaine: With the Old Testament I’m not as certain how it worked
<2022-06-17T07:11:21.000Z> Ghislaine: But I’m pretty sure it was the same
<2022-06-17T07:11:35.000Z> Ghislaine: you needed to have faith in the coming messiah
<2022-06-17T07:11:47.000Z> Ghislaine: ”I know my savior liveth” as job put it
<2022-06-17T07:12:23.000Z> Ghislaine: There’s an interesting part in the beginning of I think John where one of his disciples sees Jesus for the first time and is like “he’s the king of israel”
<2022-06-17T07:12:36.000Z> Ghislaine: Ie he’s a sheep just immediately following the shepard
<2022-06-17T07:13:21.000Z> Ghislaine: So imo Saul went to heaven
<2022-06-17T07:13:40.000Z> hazlin: okay, I think we are in agreement on those points
<2022-06-17T07:14:14.000Z> Ghislaine: he just got hit with the Hebrews 12 thing
<2022-06-17T07:14:23.000Z> hazlin: the only exception I have on this matter, is someone that makes an overt renouncement of their faith
<2022-06-17T07:14:43.000Z> Ghislaine: i also believe Ananias and sapphira went to heaven lol (probably)
<2022-06-17T07:14:44.000Z> hazlin: I think God would still let someone choose to break ties, and make oaths to satan
<2022-06-17T07:14:49.000Z> Ghislaine: If they were saved
<2022-06-17T07:14:58.000Z> Ghislaine: Which is never stated
<2022-06-17T07:15:16.000Z> Ghislaine: I think people can renounce their faith like under some kind of pressure
<2022-06-17T07:15:17.000Z> hazlin: >Ananias and sapphira -> heavenThat seems reasonable to me as well
<2022-06-17T07:15:38.000Z> hazlin: hmm, I don't think it counts if it is coerced xD
<2022-06-17T07:15:42.000Z> Ghislaine: Like it’s not like you go to hell if you’re being tortured and you renounce 
<2022-06-17T07:15:57.000Z> Ghislaine: Some people do which is insane to me
<2022-06-17T07:16:20.000Z> Ghislaine: Like wow dude you better not ever actually get oppressed  
<2022-06-17T07:16:27.000Z> hazlin: lol!
<2022-06-17T07:17:14.000Z> hazlin: that is what append to the early Christians under Constantin, when the edict of toleration was passed all these people came out of hiding back to the church 
<2022-06-17T07:17:16.000Z> Ghislaine: But if somebody did renounce their faith completely unforced and go hard on some bizarre stuff I would think they were probably never saved
<2022-06-17T07:17:51.000Z> hazlin: and one of the church elders was pissed, decided from then on they'd only be allowed 3 chances and then they were out for ever, 1 being used on running away when their life was in danger xD
<2022-06-17T07:18:00.000Z> Ghislaine: Ha
<2022-06-17T07:18:33.000Z> Ghislaine: Catholics are always losing their salvation and then getting it back
<2022-06-17T07:18:49.000Z> Ghislaine: Sleep in and miss church? salvation gone
<2022-06-17T07:18:51.000Z> Ghislaine: go
<2022-06-17T07:18:58.000Z> hazlin: Ugh, the RCC is a scary thing.
<2022-06-17T07:19:08.000Z> Ghislaine: Confess to the priest?
<2022-06-17T07:19:12.000Z> Ghislaine: salvation back
<2022-06-17T07:19:21.000Z> Ghislaine: Repeat 500x
<2022-06-17T07:19:34.000Z> Ghislaine: Like that’s the official doctrine
<2022-06-17T07:19:47.000Z> Ghislaine: If you don’t believe that you’re basically Protestant lol
<2022-06-17T07:19:59.000Z> Ghislaine: i tried telling nugger that 
<2022-06-17T07:20:13.000Z> Ghislaine: But he was saying they basically doing mean it
<2022-06-17T07:20:14.000Z> Ghislaine: lol
<2022-06-17T07:20:29.000Z> Ghislaine: He’s ortho
<2022-06-17T07:20:29.000Z> hazlin: oh I know, I spent a week or two getting to the bottom of what all the RCC was about with a very knowledgeable catholic on gab
<2022-06-17T07:20:35.000Z> Ghislaine: They’re the same
<2022-06-17T07:21:06.000Z> Ghislaine: I was raised Catholic so I actually have a printout of the major rules they gave me laying around somewhere 
<2022-06-17T07:21:07.000Z> hazlin: yeah, Orthodox and RCC are indistinguishable unless you specifically mention the pope
<2022-06-17T07:21:16.000Z> Ghislaine: they are very organized lol
<2022-06-17T07:21:23.000Z> Ghislaine: many lists and classifications of suns
<2022-06-17T07:21:27.000Z> Ghislaine: *sins
<2022-06-17T07:21:57.000Z> Ghislaine: If you do a certain type of sin you are NOT in a state of grace until you chat with the priest
<2022-06-17T07:22:30.000Z> Ghislaine: Anyway I better go to bed 
<2022-06-17T07:22:34.000Z> hazlin: yeah, a turning point for my understanding was the 255 dogma
<2022-06-17T07:22:37.000Z> Ghislaine: nice chatting with you
<2022-06-17T07:22:50.000Z> hazlin: nice chatting with you as well! Lets talk more Christianity some time xD
<2022-06-17T07:22:53.000Z> hazlin: this was lots of fun!
<2022-06-17T07:22:55.000Z> hazlin: good night!
<2022-06-17T07:23:00.000Z> Ghislaine: Night!
<2022-06-17T16:23:22.000Z> Ghislaine: poa.st/notice/AKZRduWfqqFNMNlYbA
<2022-06-17T16:24:20.000Z> Ghislaine: uncanny valley convo between this guy and koropokkur
<2022-06-17T17:40:28.000Z> Ghislaine: poa.st/notice/AKaOyBVoIler82IWRc
<2022-06-17T19:41:28.000Z> hazlin: I think you are right on that one
<2022-06-17T19:42:03.000Z> hazlin: also, if it wasn't for the video posts fever would also be a contender for bot hood xD
<2022-06-17T19:44:39.000Z> Ghislaine: I think fever is a bot 
<2022-06-17T19:44:51.000Z> Ghislaine: Just bizarre behavior 
<2022-06-17T19:45:10.000Z> hazlin: I mean, it would fit, perfectly, but I don't think that could fake the videos
<2022-06-17T19:45:12.000Z> Ghislaine: Like it can post vids but ok Emma can post images
<2022-06-17T19:45:17.000Z> Ghislaine: Idk
<2022-06-17T19:45:30.000Z> Ghislaine: I don’t actually watch the vids lol
<2022-06-17T19:46:00.000Z> hazlin: oh, well for fever it is him in his kitchen, talking about poast, and other things, he is just as bot like IRL lol
<2022-06-17T19:47:08.000Z> Ghislaine: Aha ok that’s probably real then lol
<2022-06-17T19:47:48.000Z> hazlin: honestly, it is such low quality interaction, that I ended up muting him a while back, and haven't missed out on anything xD
<2022-06-17T19:48:41.000Z> hazlin: On the other hand, koropokkur, has trouble tracking context, and just says boiler plate things that derail conversations 
<2022-06-17T19:49:26.000Z> hazlin: your conversation with him, and others demonstration that pretty well 
<2022-06-17T19:54:11.000Z> Ghislaine: He likes my tweets a lot so it was tough pulling the trigger 
<2022-06-17T19:54:15.000Z> Ghislaine: but I had to do it
<2022-06-17T19:56:11.000Z> Ghislaine: Superlutheran is apparently starting churches :/
<2022-06-17T19:56:52.000Z> Ghislaine: I’m assuming joining one of these will require doxing yourself 
<2022-06-17T19:58:26.000Z> hazlin attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/a0f364777d103771f27da722f0797104ea6e4f69a55b4245825c3eaaa6d372ee.png
<2022-06-17T19:58:32.000Z> hazlin attached file https://i.poastcdn.org/4c7952b80bede5d0b3eb7731356fa43c245804fef8d48e9ce4afbef9a31f0ca5.png
<2022-06-17T19:58:45.000Z> hazlin: that was essentially my only interaction with koro
<2022-06-17T19:59:44.000Z> hazlin: he seemed to be tracking a the time, but rereading it, he was mainly was trying to create a hyperbolic hell thread xD
<2022-06-17T20:00:06.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah just saying off the wall stuff to get people going 
<2022-06-17T20:00:12.000Z> hazlin: yeah
<2022-06-17T20:01:50.000Z> hazlin: >Superlutheran is apparently starting churches
<2022-06-17T20:02:53.000Z> hazlin: I've not actually been able to make it through one of their pod casts
<2022-06-17T20:04:03.000Z> hazlin: but my initial impression was that, it isn't a growing community 
<2022-06-17T20:04:11.000Z> Ghislaine: Yea me too actually 
<2022-06-17T20:04:29.000Z> Ghislaine: I listened to the first half of their psychiatry episode 
<2022-06-17T20:04:34.000Z> Ghislaine: actually pretty good
<2022-06-17T20:05:49.000Z> Ghislaine: I feel like they haven’t exhausted their desire and energy to podcast
<2022-06-17T20:05:55.000Z> Ghislaine: so their show has some life to it
<2022-06-17T20:06:57.000Z> hazlin: ahh, well that would make since, I just happened to pick the one where they talked about Angels breeding with Men, and started by shitting on the book of Enoch, and read from some pagan source instead xD
<2022-06-17T20:08:12.000Z> hazlin: Then they lied to me and attacked me in to comments
<2022-06-17T20:08:18.000Z> hazlin: so I figured they were full of shit
<2022-06-17T20:10:02.000Z> Ghislaine: I’m withholding judgment on them being full of it because I don’t like their content enough to really get into whether it’s evil lol
<2022-06-17T20:10:29.000Z> Ghislaine: and their connections to TRS are skeezy enough I don’t like getting too chummy with them
<2022-06-17T20:13:33.000Z> hazlin: yeah, I can't speak to the rest of their work, and when to comes to the book of enoch, of the 4-5 people I've talked to about it on here, have just boldy lied about it xD it is strange because all I had to do was read the book to find that out
<2022-06-17T20:14:15.000Z> hazlin: I figured you were going to say there was a TRS connection, since you mentioned doxing for church xD
<2022-06-17T20:14:57.000Z> Ghislaine: They’re trs aligned so it’s skeeves me out they’re starting dox churches 
<2022-06-17T20:14:58.000Z> Ghislaine: yea
<2022-06-17T20:36:24.000Z> Ghislaine: I just muted wishgranter14. He’s probably human but acts enough like a bot I’m tired of it 
<2022-06-17T21:41:16.000Z> hazlin: hmm
<2022-06-17T21:41:23.000Z> hazlin: his content is very bot like
<2022-06-17T21:42:33.000Z> hazlin: though his occasional direct interaction is very lucid. Overall, he is contributing to the mindless noise by meme dumping
<2022-06-17T21:43:05.000Z> hazlin: and what I would expect from a bot trying to degrade the community
<2022-06-17T21:43:18.000Z> hazlin: and, when he does respond, it is like 1 sentence 
<2022-06-17T21:43:23.000Z> hazlin: gtp-3? maybe?
<2022-06-17T21:43:55.000Z> Ghislaine: I would expect gpt3 to be better 
<2022-06-17T21:44:07.000Z> Ghislaine: maybe gpt2
<2022-06-17T21:45:36.000Z> hazlin: Also, started reading that thread you had about Once Saved.A the freaken start:>Well if you kill yourself, you won't be going to heaven. Christ absolving you of sin is contingent upon your repentance, and you can't repent of a sin that kills you.Did you know, that transactional Salvation was what directly lead Martin Luther to rebel against the church?
<2022-06-17T21:46:59.000Z> Ghislaine: What’s impressive is that he seems look at images and come up with lucid responses 
<2022-06-17T21:47:06.000Z> Ghislaine: Same with links
<2022-06-17T21:47:35.000Z> hazlin: ^^
<2022-06-17T21:47:40.000Z> hazlin: Emma does the same
<2022-06-17T21:48:07.000Z> hazlin: I'm thinking a combination of reverse image searches, and web-site processing
<2022-06-17T22:19:25.000Z> Ghislaine: Yep
<2022-06-17T22:19:47.000Z> Ghislaine: Extract keywords from images and links
<2022-06-17T22:19:53.000Z> hazlin: > poa.st/@Godcast/posts/AGks93rt7Ega6y3voOThat has got to be the worst so far. Paul's works are the ones you can't directly quote, they are only valid in the context of what he is trying to say in that whole book. How he presents them here, is an inversion of the meaning.
<2022-06-17T22:20:02.000Z> Ghislaine: Feed that as an input 
<2022-06-17T22:21:28.000Z> hazlin: lol I was already typing when you replied, don't think I am trying to talk over you or anything xD It just takes time for me to write things out, and generally, I am working my way through that thread
<2022-06-17T22:22:19.000Z> Ghislaine: Np I get it
<2022-06-17T22:22:44.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah everything he says is backwards and out of context
<2022-06-17T22:23:02.000Z> Ghislaine: and bizarrely contrary to loads of very straightforward scriptures 
<2022-06-17T22:23:23.000Z> Ghislaine: What can I say don’t take spiritual advice from a wario avi
<2022-06-17T22:25:15.000Z> hazlin: xD, actually, how did you come to know of Grace and the Gospel, I know two modern ministries that flirt with the concepts, but they pulled back in recent years
<2022-06-17T22:25:43.000Z> hazlin: that is if you don't mind my asking
<2022-06-17T22:25:50.000Z> hazlin: I guess it is a rather personal question xD
<2022-06-17T22:26:20.000Z> Ghislaine: I got evangelized by somebody associated with the nondenominational movement. She was very insistent and clear about the exact nature of salvation. 
<2022-06-17T22:26:38.000Z> Ghislaine: But I wasn’t really that sure or anything 
<2022-06-17T22:26:50.000Z> Ghislaine: flirted with a lot of types of Christianity
<2022-06-17T22:27:09.000Z> Ghislaine: But always generally believed in OSAS
<2022-06-17T22:27:34.000Z> Ghislaine: Then I saw some Steven Anderson videos and was totally convinced 
<2022-06-17T22:27:59.000Z> Ghislaine: got really into watching that stuff even started attending some of the events at a church they’re associated with
<2022-06-17T22:28:34.000Z> Ghislaine: But I backed off of them because I realized there’s just something wrong with that group
<2022-06-17T22:28:39.000Z> Ghislaine: But i
<2022-06-17T22:28:51.000Z> Ghislaine: learned a lot about the Bible from them
<2022-06-17T22:29:26.000Z> hazlin: well, that is very cool xD And, literally all the groups have something wrong with them, they can never substitute being ministered to by God directly 
<2022-06-17T22:29:35.000Z> Ghislaine: I basically watched hundreds of hours of their sermons read the Bible multiple times and studied it really intensely for a while
<2022-06-17T22:30:38.000Z> hazlin: If they have an amazing video or 2 on youtube, I'd love a link. Essentially I have a collection for one off sermons that I think are like gold, so I am always looking to add to my collection xD
<2022-06-17T22:31:43.000Z> Ghislaine: Just look up his “once saved always saved” sermon
<2022-06-17T22:32:25.000Z> Ghislaine: His revelations sermon series is also very good
<2022-06-17T22:32:26.000Z> hazlin: I'll give it a listen https://i.poastcdn.org/bbcc97b56d97853c20e31811ed723a18e1b272f83a48738e8278ae50ca2ecf1d.png
<2022-06-17T22:32:33.000Z> Ghislaine: Yep
<2022-06-17T22:33:02.000Z> hazlin: Personally I never mention my background, because people use it as a context to reject my words outright xD
<2022-06-17T22:33:06.000Z> Ghislaine: It’s annoying because they take the Bible so seriously and are so rigorous about knowing it back to front and really understanding it
<2022-06-17T22:33:28.000Z> Ghislaine: I wish there were other groups that were like that
<2022-06-17T22:33:41.000Z> Ghislaine: And they’re really serious about doing what it says to
<2022-06-17T22:34:31.000Z> Ghislaine: but they just take things way too far and get into these endless things where they nitpick every Christian group in existence and confidently say they’re damned lol
<2022-06-17T22:34:39.000Z> Ghislaine: And they are very legalistic
<2022-06-17T22:35:04.000Z> Ghislaine: And not optical
<2022-06-17T22:35:17.000Z> Ghislaine: Not good to be associated with hem
<2022-06-17T22:35:39.000Z> Ghislaine: They make themselves stink in the eyes of normal people and take pride in it
<2022-06-17T22:36:27.000Z> hazlin: Which group are you talking about? The God Cast group or the Steven Anderson group?
<2022-06-17T22:36:33.000Z> Ghislaine: Steven anderson
<2022-06-17T22:37:11.000Z> Ghislaine: Godcast ppl I wouldn’t praise so highly or condemn so much either
<2022-06-17T22:37:23.000Z> Ghislaine: theyre not very interesting one way or the other
<2022-06-17T22:37:51.000Z> Ghislaine: But yeah I even went door to door with the Anderson people preaching to random ppl lol
<2022-06-17T22:38:25.000Z> hazlin: that is always fun xD getting to experience being IRL trolled xD
<2022-06-17T22:39:19.000Z> Ghislaine: The way they shoehorn door to door sales intot
<2022-06-17T22:39:35.000Z> Ghislaine: Into the Bible is one of the sillier aspects of their belief system
<2022-06-17T22:40:47.000Z> Ghislaine: What’s your faith background?
<2022-06-17T22:41:43.000Z> hazlin: I grew up in churches associated with the Word Of Faith movement, Prosperity Gospel if you will. But, it was not close to the source. And, was really fancy legalism that made everything a sin, and covered it in all the wonderful words of the Bible. Not surprisingly this was nothing to hold onto when I grew older, starting having to deal with criticisms of the Bible, and college in general.
<2022-06-17T22:42:31.000Z> Ghislaine: Any speaking in tongues?
<2022-06-17T22:43:28.000Z> hazlin: So, it was kind of like starting over, but Apologetic through RZIM (Ravi's ministry) made Christianity this wonderfully reasonable and defensible thing for me. He also showed that the competing world views are crap, less stable, and require more evidence to believe (which they don't have)
<2022-06-17T22:44:29.000Z> hazlin: >Any speaking in tongues?< lol So, I believed in Christianity, but it was still this super burdensome thing, the harsh judge that is always waiting for me to screw up. 
<2022-06-17T22:45:06.000Z> hazlin: And, it was at that time, I found Gene Scott's ministry, he is perhaps the most hated pasture by other Christians of his time.
<2022-06-17T22:46:07.000Z> hazlin: However, through his ministry I discovered the true Grace message, and that it wasn't even new, reading Martin Luther, I've since found he was saying the exact some things hundreds of years ago
<2022-06-17T22:47:15.000Z> hazlin: The foundation of Grace, exactly what Paul said, and Luther, and Scott, has been the single most important aspect of my faith. 
<2022-06-17T22:47:44.000Z> hazlin: I even got involved in Kenneth Copeland's ministry there for a few years
<2022-06-17T22:48:11.000Z> hazlin: it, has a lot of problems, but they believe in the Goodness of God more than almost any other group
<2022-06-17T22:48:48.000Z> hazlin: combining God's goodness with Grace, is the state of my current Christianity, and it is glorious 
<2022-06-17T22:49:41.000Z> hazlin: Also, the knew Copeland stuff, doesn't have as much goodness or grace. But, I have a sermon of his from the 70s that is wonderful, and 2 from Kenneth Hagin, than I listen to on a regular basis
<2022-06-17T22:51:37.000Z> Ghislaine: Hmm I’m not familiar with most of these people
<2022-06-17T22:51:52.000Z> Ghislaine: I know Ravi Zacharias 
<2022-06-17T22:53:57.000Z> hazlin: That is not surprising, only one of those is still alive xD
<2022-06-17T22:54:22.000Z> Ghislaine: By the way I was thinking about your OT salvation question more. Paul is insistent that “the law killeth” So it’s not as though that used to work - and we know that ppl did go to heaven back so I think it was all by faith back then too. Jesus implies in John 3 that nicodemus should have already known from the scriptures what he was being told . 
<2022-06-17T22:55:09.000Z> hazlin: I agree, God was the same before and after Jesus died
<2022-06-17T22:56:49.000Z> hazlin: and Jesus was "slain from the foundation of the world", so, God could save anyone in the OT, on credit, charged against the Grace that was to come xD
<2022-06-17T23:00:15.000Z> hazlin: >"slain from the foundation of the world"What i mean by that is, Jesus was committed to saving man should men fall, even from before the foundation of the world. And it would be on His promise to follow through that God could save any, knowing it would be covered by Jesus in the future
<2022-06-17T23:00:24.000Z> Ghislaine: Agree!
<2022-06-17T23:00:33.000Z> Ghislaine: This issue troubled me a lot
<2022-06-17T23:01:13.000Z> Ghislaine: Because there’s not a really clear gospel presentation in the OT
<2022-06-17T23:01:33.000Z> Ghislaine: which made me wonder if it was just a new doctrine made up by Jesus and his followers 
<2022-06-17T23:01:55.000Z> Ghislaine: but it doesn’t worry me so much anymore
<2022-06-17T23:04:19.000Z> hazlin: the impression I get is, anyone who knows God, BC or AD, he will save them. And, there is enough wiggle room that some may even know God even though they do not belong to any of the Christian organizations
<2022-06-17T23:04:28.000Z> hazlin: that is, do not know him by name
<2022-06-17T23:06:33.000Z> hazlin: On the other side, there will be people in the church that God doesn't know:>21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
<2022-06-17T23:07:06.000Z> hazlin: >23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
<2022-06-17T23:07:28.000Z> hazlin: I think the most important part of that whole section is "I never knew you"
<2022-06-17T23:11:50.000Z> Ghislaine: Yep
<2022-06-17T23:11:56.000Z> Ghislaine: I love that 
<2022-06-17T23:12:22.000Z> Ghislaine: because salvation losers point at that as a proof you can lose it
<2022-06-17T23:12:40.000Z> Ghislaine: And it’s completely backwards!
<2022-06-17T23:12:58.000Z> hazlin: They point to it and go "Look Jesus said that you can't come in because you sinned!"
<2022-06-17T23:16:07.000Z> hazlin: When it came time for Paul, to pray for his new believers, what does the record say? Did he ask that they be kept from sinning so that they would be able to enter the Kingdom of Heaven? No, he made request that they should know God's goodness:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
<2022-06-17T23:17:15.000Z> hazlin: Literally, this is the prayer, so that someone should know God, so that Jesus will say "My brother, I know you well, come in! I've been expecting you!"
<2022-06-17T23:26:49.000Z> Ghislaine: Yep
<2022-06-17T23:29:10.000Z> Ghislaine: Muted schianali on suspicion of being a bot 
<2022-06-17T23:29:21.000Z> Ghislaine: Likes my posts a lot
<2022-06-17T23:29:37.000Z> Ghislaine: but weird profile
<2022-06-17T23:30:41.000Z> hazlin: He already has me blocked xD https://i.poastcdn.org/7527aedfc7b70480b95517ac08ca8e31f21b028f7bd9ed0ef7cdd05a0c89cf2c.png
<2022-06-17T23:39:56.000Z> Ghislaine: Weird 
<2022-06-17T23:40:26.000Z> Ghislaine: I feel like some entity that had a lot of bots on gab basically saw the shilling to come to poast 
<2022-06-17T23:40:41.000Z> Ghislaine: and then made a bunch of gab like bots here
<2022-06-17T23:41:03.000Z> Ghislaine: A lot of the bot activity is associated with gab culture
<2022-06-17T23:41:18.000Z> Ghislaine: Specifically the nice crew instance 
<2022-06-17T23:41:22.000Z> hazlin: lol
<2022-06-17T23:41:33.000Z> hazlin: I've actually only interacted with real people there
<2022-06-17T23:41:42.000Z> hazlin: it is a very small instance best I can tell
<2022-06-17T23:41:57.000Z> Ghislaine: If I had to guess I’d say matty the nicecrew admin is responsible 
<2022-06-17T23:42:21.000Z> hazlin: responsible for bringing bots from gab?
<2022-06-17T23:42:26.000Z> hazlin: to poast?
<2022-06-17T23:42:33.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah
<2022-06-17T23:42:51.000Z> Ghislaine: There was a cultural fight where poast ppl were rejecting the gab transplants largely for this bizarre bot like behavior 
<2022-06-17T23:43:33.000Z> Ghislaine: And then matty stepped up and made an instance (Nicecrew) where a lot of weird bot moved over
<2022-06-17T23:45:31.000Z> hazlin: I think the rejection was slightly different, for example I don't think DahlHaus1776@nicecrew.digital is a bot, but they is obsessed with the Jews. I don't think IgnorantHussy@nicecrew.digital is a bot, but enjoys a very simple back and forth with people
<2022-06-17T23:45:47.000Z> hazlin: they are... not trying to fit in at all
<2022-06-17T23:45:54.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah
<2022-06-17T23:46:14.000Z> hazlin: like fever
<2022-06-17T23:46:20.000Z> Ghislaine: Idk I have the ones that were annoying me muted now
<2022-06-17T23:46:30.000Z> Ghislaine: But I saw some very odd stuff 
<2022-06-17T23:46:38.000Z> Ghislaine: I think there’s some real ppl there
<2022-06-17T23:47:58.000Z> hazlin: I believe your general thesis is correct, there are bots, and they are being push on us, just like what happened to Gab and 4chan
<2022-06-17T23:48:34.000Z> Ghislaine: I feel like this is a pretty serious attack and idk what to do about it
<2022-06-17T23:48:42.000Z> Ghislaine: i mean we’re better off than 4chan
<2022-06-17T23:48:52.000Z> hazlin: well, it can't happen in mass here
<2022-06-17T23:48:54.000Z> hazlin: or FSE
<2022-06-17T23:48:56.000Z> Ghislaine: And garbage bot posts don’t get retweeted
<2022-06-17T23:49:07.000Z> Ghislaine: So they don’t get propogaged
<2022-06-17T23:49:27.000Z> hazlin: yeah, groups or boards are conducive to bots
<2022-06-17T23:49:30.000Z> Ghislaine: but its awful that I can’t just assume humanity for ppl that post weird stuff
<2022-06-17T23:50:53.000Z> hazlin: This should become a mute point when revolver drops
<2022-06-17T23:51:03.000Z> Ghislaine: How so?
<2022-06-17T23:51:15.000Z> Ghislaine: Don’t really know how that works
<2022-06-17T23:51:27.000Z> Ghislaine: or what it is I mean
<2022-06-17T23:51:33.000Z> hazlin: the network will only grow by following or being followed
<2022-06-17T23:51:41.000Z> hazlin: right now, poast and FSE have a weak point
<2022-06-17T23:51:46.000Z> hazlin: the central feed
<2022-06-17T23:52:27.000Z> Ghislaine: You mean the local timeline
<2022-06-17T23:52:29.000Z> Ghislaine: ?
<2022-06-17T23:52:31.000Z> hazlin: yeah
<2022-06-17T23:52:44.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah I don’t even look there anymore
<2022-06-17T23:52:49.000Z> Ghislaine: just at my follows
<2022-06-17T23:52:52.000Z> hazlin: same
<2022-06-17T23:53:04.000Z> Ghislaine: But still bots can worm
<2022-06-17T23:53:07.000Z> Ghislaine: their way in
<2022-06-17T23:53:18.000Z> Ghislaine: Like they follow ppl and like their stuff
<2022-06-17T23:53:34.000Z> Ghislaine: and then try and participate in their conversations
<2022-06-17T23:53:35.000Z> hazlin: well, you have to be selective of who you allow to follow you xD
<2022-06-17T23:53:43.000Z> Ghislaine: which jams things ip
<2022-06-17T23:53:56.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah I’m starting to think that
<2022-06-17T23:54:11.000Z> hazlin: I've blocked several followers at this point, they were hindering what I felt were important conversation 
<2022-06-17T23:55:18.000Z> Ghislaine: How does revolver come in though?
<2022-06-17T23:56:01.000Z> hazlin: well, essentially everyone will be a server node, and you'll have to decide who you associate with, and your network is shaped by who your associates associate with
<2022-06-17T23:56:17.000Z> hazlin: sort of like how things are now, but I think with more control on the end user
<2022-06-17T23:56:39.000Z> Ghislaine: Interesting 
<2022-06-17T23:56:55.000Z> Ghislaine: But graf would still basically be paying hosting
<2022-06-17T23:56:57.000Z> Ghislaine: ?
<2022-06-17T23:57:38.000Z> hazlin: I think the only central parts are going to be the node directories. I think graf will host a directory, and I would imagine there will be more than one person hosting those
<2022-06-17T23:57:51.000Z> hazlin: but that is just to allow the nodes to easily find each other
<2022-06-17T23:58:01.000Z> hazlin: I am betting you'll be able to send someone a direct link
<2022-06-17T23:58:12.000Z> hazlin: and bypass the directories if you wanted to
<2022-06-18T03:57:37.000Z> hazlin: Been watching Once Saved Always Save.I didn't know "hate the sin love the sinner" was a Gandhi quote xD
<2022-06-18T04:03:15.000Z> hazlin: I really like some part of it, but there is a very hard edge mixed in there xD
<2022-06-18T04:46:11.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah
<2022-06-18T04:48:46.000Z> Ghislaine: That’s what I ended up deciding to get away from
<2022-06-18T04:49:03.000Z> Ghislaine: I haven’t listened to any of his stuff in years
<2022-06-18T05:50:23.000Z> hazlin: I went through and took notes, divided into what I thought where the good parts, and the bad parts, I put my own thoughts or scripture reference in (parenthesis). https://i.poastcdn.org/2140a04af3967c0d335c178a52af22234ae0b6e3871a6fcfbcabe38a98842329.txt
<2022-06-18T05:51:09.000Z> hazlin: I'm going to use it to talk with my mom, she will enjoy that, but you may also like it xD
<2022-06-19T03:32:33.000Z> hazlin: This thread feels alien to me, poa.st/@cjd@pkteerium.xyz/posts/AKWSsqixmlLYOPK0Ku
<2022-06-19T03:33:02.000Z> hazlin: None of the comments seem to line up quite right, feels very strange
<2022-06-19T03:37:20.000Z> Ghislaine: The liber don guy seems maybe human
<2022-06-19T03:37:33.000Z> Ghislaine: The others are bizarre 
<2022-06-19T03:37:41.000Z> hazlin: ^
<2022-06-19T03:39:12.000Z> hazlin: I had a funny thought, what if there is already so much bot content, that it finds its way back into training data xD A continues distortion effect
<2022-06-19T03:40:20.000Z> Ghislaine: Haha yeah
<2022-06-19T03:40:34.000Z> Ghislaine: I was talking to Americanchampion about that
<2022-06-19T03:41:18.000Z> Ghislaine: Like what if a lot of the training data for the occasion of being accused of being a bot is just bots being accused of being bots and floundering around 
<2022-06-19T03:41:41.000Z> Ghislaine: I think the bots can accuse people just fine though - plenty of data like that
<2022-06-19T03:42:03.000Z> Ghislaine: But responding to an accusation isn’t the same
<2022-06-19T03:42:25.000Z> hazlin: true, but it is usually too late by the time the accusation is made
<2022-06-19T03:43:01.000Z> Ghislaine: Yeah that tok
<2022-06-19T03:43:07.000Z> Ghislaine: Too 
<2022-06-19T03:46:11.000Z> hazlin: but it is a powerful statement, because it is so easy to dispel, if it goes unchallenged, that is all you need to know
<2022-06-19T03:46:48.000Z> Ghislaine: Yep
<2022-06-19T03:49:07.000Z> Ghislaine: poa.st/notice/AKdO18CRYYqTFCxa8u
<2022-06-19T07:10:59.000Z> hazlin: Lol!
<2022-06-19T07:11:47.000Z> hazlin: that was a string of uncanny valley diag
<2022-06-19T07:11:52.000Z> hazlin: dialog*
<2022-06-19T07:12:51.000Z> hazlin: those first few replies seemed to be affirming that they were mostly bots
<2022-06-19T07:13:08.000Z> hazlin: but as the dialog progresses, that was apparently an attempt at a joke
<2022-06-19T07:17:59.000Z> hazlin: it IS also strange that they found your post 2 days later
<2022-06-19T07:19:32.000Z> hazlin: you name dropped, but no linking, like they would have missed your comment on the local time line, but then later it came up in their processing of data from other instances 
<2022-06-19T07:21:42.000Z> hazlin: oh, well their is the entry point https://i.poastcdn.org/cb344ab4f3ba7c7569ddc6e9f98bb2a9830b3f51d4e67b062605576813686509.png
<2022-06-19T08:06:15.000Z> hazlin: nvm, he said it was abot lol
<2022-06-19T08:06:22.000Z> hazlin: I thought that was emma from the thumb nail xD
<2022-06-21T07:14:23.000Z> hazlin: btw, my mom really liked those Once Saved Always Saved scriptures and teaching
<2022-06-21T07:15:06.000Z> hazlin: we actually had two people in the family that became unbearable in the old age, and none of us were certain what that meant for their Salvation 
<2022-06-21T07:15:24.000Z> hazlin: And, that teaching brought some peace on the matter
<2022-06-21T14:19:53.000Z> Ghislaine: That’s great!